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Old 07-18-2011, 09:46 AM   #13361 (permalink)
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Old 07-18-2011, 11:47 AM   #13362 (permalink)
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Lindy, yes I am east of the 109th meridian.

unc, I'm not an arch. I'm in a historic building.
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Old 07-18-2011, 12:02 PM   #13363 (permalink)
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- Robert S. McNamara
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"We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches...
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- Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message"
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Old 07-18-2011, 03:56 PM   #13364 (permalink)
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Sorry, no yellow roses around here.
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Old 07-18-2011, 04:00 PM   #13365 (permalink)
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I'm sure there are, BadNick. You know horticulturists.

Are you in St. Louis, Missouri?
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Old 07-18-2011, 04:31 PM   #13366 (permalink)
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Ocm?, since you put it that way, I'm sure you're right. Except for the St. Louis part since I'm not in Missouri.
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Old 07-18-2011, 04:42 PM   #13367 (permalink)
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...may we have another clue? Are you in Iowa?
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Old 07-18-2011, 05:08 PM   #13368 (permalink)
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- Robert S. McNamara
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"We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches...
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- Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message"
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Old 07-18-2011, 07:50 PM   #13369 (permalink)
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I'm SE of both Iowa and Nebraska, in a historic religious structure.
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Old 07-19-2011, 02:04 AM   #13370 (permalink)
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- Robert S. McNamara
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"We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches...
We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles."
- Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message"
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Old 07-19-2011, 06:39 AM   #13371 (permalink)
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not in Arkansas. Go westward, young man, go westward.
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Old 07-19-2011, 09:20 AM   #13372 (permalink)
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- Robert S. McNamara
-----------------------------------------
"We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches...
We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles."
- Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message"
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Old 07-19-2011, 06:48 PM   #13373 (permalink)
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NoMish ...if you get my MeaNing
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Old 07-20-2011, 03:17 AM   #13374 (permalink)
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- Robert S. McNamara
-----------------------------------------
"We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches...
We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles."
- Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message"
-----------------------------------------
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Old 07-20-2011, 04:48 AM   #13375 (permalink)
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note Utah. Go southeast.
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Old 07-20-2011, 12:10 PM   #13376 (permalink)
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- Robert S. McNamara
-----------------------------------------
"We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches...
We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles."
- Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message"
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Old 07-20-2011, 02:35 PM   #13377 (permalink)
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New Mexico is not SE of Iowa, you trickster!
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Old 07-20-2011, 02:41 PM   #13378 (permalink)
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Wow! That was quick! Are you east of the 109th meridian --the eastern boundaries of Colorado and New Mexico?
Oops! Sorry if I misled anyone. The 109th meridian (more or less...) forms the WESTERN boundary of Colorado and New Mexico.

Are you in a church in New Mexico?

Lindy

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I'm SE of both Iowa and Nebraska, in a historic religious structure.
If you're SE of IA how can you be west of the MRS?

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Old 07-20-2011, 03:34 PM   #13379 (permalink)
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Oops...I must have meant SW of Iowa and Nebraska...sorry folks. But you're getting very close because I am in New Mexico and in a church of historical significance.

In about 10 minutes we're leaving to go down the shore (Phila-speak for "going to the Jersey shore") where I'll be for about 2 weeks. I think we'll have internet service but I won't know for sure till we get there...at least via my laptop; there is always my iphone which will do it if my aging eyes can see those tiny little things on the screen. Hope to be back later tonight when we're there to see if you found me yet in New Mexico.
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Old 07-20-2011, 08:43 PM   #13380 (permalink)
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Does the chapel have a miraculous staircase?
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Old 07-20-2011, 08:54 PM   #13381 (permalink)
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Walt, do you mean the miraculous staircase at the Loretto Chapel?

At the end of the Old Santa Fe Trail stands the Loretto Chapel. Inside the Gothic structure is the staircase referred to as miraculous, inexplicable, marvelous and is sometimes called St. Joseph’s Staircase. The stairway confounds architects, engineers and master craftsmen. It makes over two complete 360-degree turns, stands 20’ tall and has no center support. It rests solely on its base and against the choir loft. The risers of the 33 steps are all of the same height. Made of an apparently extinct wood species, it was constructed with only square wooden pegs without glue or nails.

The Miraculous Staircase, which legend says was constructed or inspired by St. Joseph the Carpenter, was built sometime between 1877 and 1881. It took at least six months to build, and has two 360 degree turns with no visible means of support.


Cool stairway, but that's not where I am. However, not only am I in the same town as the Loretto Chapel, Santa Fe, but I'm even on the same "street", the Old Santa Fe Trail.
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Old 07-20-2011, 09:22 PM   #13382 (permalink)
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I did, indeed. Are you at the oldest church in the United States?
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Old 07-21-2011, 03:21 AM   #13383 (permalink)
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san miguel mission?
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- Robert S. McNamara
-----------------------------------------
"We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches...
We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles."
- Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message"
-----------------------------------------
never wrestle with a pig.
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Old 07-21-2011, 08:56 AM   #13384 (permalink)
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yes and yes! You guys fight it out since I'm on a peaceful vacation.

I think Walt also meant the San Miguel Mission San Miguel Mission - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ...even though he was not specific and there is some points of disagreement about what is actually the "oldest church in the U.S." So if Walt says he meant this place, then he's up next...otherwise, unc'a'dunk.
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Old 07-21-2011, 11:56 AM   #13385 (permalink)
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i'm good either way; whataya wanna do, walt?
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- Robert S. McNamara
-----------------------------------------
"We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches...
We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles."
- Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message"
-----------------------------------------
never wrestle with a pig.
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Old 07-21-2011, 12:50 PM   #13386 (permalink)
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Go for it! I'm going walkabout for a week or so and won't be near a computer.
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Old 07-21-2011, 12:56 PM   #13387 (permalink)
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I quickly returned from San Miguel Misson and now I'm sitting on the beach right where AC meets Ventnor...see:


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Old 07-21-2011, 12:58 PM   #13388 (permalink)
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ok, find me!
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- Robert S. McNamara
-----------------------------------------
"We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches...
We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles."
- Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message"
-----------------------------------------
never wrestle with a pig.
you both get dirty;
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Old 07-21-2011, 01:28 PM   #13389 (permalink)
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are you on a beach?
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Old 07-21-2011, 01:32 PM   #13390 (permalink)
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nope, are you?
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- Robert S. McNamara
-----------------------------------------
"We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches...
We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles."
- Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message"
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never wrestle with a pig.
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Old 07-21-2011, 03:13 PM   #13391 (permalink)
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Are you in the Northern Hemisphere?
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Old 07-21-2011, 03:24 PM   #13392 (permalink)
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oh yes...
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- Robert S. McNamara
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"We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches...
We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles."
- Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message"
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Old 07-21-2011, 04:05 PM   #13393 (permalink)
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& the Western?
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Old 07-21-2011, 07:30 PM   #13394 (permalink)
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& maybe on the sofa?
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Old 07-22-2011, 03:06 AM   #13395 (permalink)
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i am on the sofa, which puts me in the western hemi...
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- Robert S. McNamara
-----------------------------------------
"We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches...
We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles."
- Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message"
-----------------------------------------
never wrestle with a pig.
you both get dirty;
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Old 07-22-2011, 07:08 AM   #13396 (permalink)
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are you south of the 40?
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Old 07-22-2011, 10:11 AM   #13397 (permalink)
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i am south of the 40...
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- Robert S. McNamara
-----------------------------------------
"We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches...
We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles."
- Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message"
-----------------------------------------
never wrestle with a pig.
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Old 07-22-2011, 12:36 PM   #13398 (permalink)
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when you look south, is the Mrs. on your left?
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Old 07-22-2011, 12:56 PM   #13399 (permalink)
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when i look south, she's on my right...
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- Robert S. McNamara
-----------------------------------------
"We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches...
We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles."
- Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message"
-----------------------------------------
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Old 07-22-2011, 05:13 PM   #13400 (permalink)
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Are you in Indiana?
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