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soma 12-08-2005 11:15 PM

Cheap Vodka + Brita Filter = Decent Vodka?
 
I found this article earlier today, which describes how a brita filter can be used to make cheap vodka smell and taste like ketel one. Has anyone tried this? Are the brita filters useable for normal water filtration after running cheap vodka through it? Does the brita indeed have that great an effect?

Article Source: http://www.ohmygoditburns.com/ (scroll down a bit)

Quote:

Our theory is that a simple brita water filter can be used to make bad vodka, into good. In our case this meant turning a Vladimir™, into a Ketel One™. At $11.09 for 1.75 liter (Ketel is 11.99 for the 350 ml), Vladimir is a steal. It is, however, painful to drink, has a repugnant aftertaste, posesses a bouquet reminiscent of rubbing alcohol. Our working theory was that these terrible qualities were caused by a lack of proper filtration, and that running our Vlad through a charcoal filter would remove some of the impurities causing these odors and flavors.

Materials

1. Bottle of cheap and/or nasty vodka. The cheapest price per volume was selected from the liquor store. In our case, this turned out to be “Vladimir Vodka™".

Materials

2. Bottle of control (control, ahh fancy scientician word) vodka. A bottle of Ketel One™ was grabbed at the last second while on the checkout line.
3. Science Crackers! These were essential in cleansing our palates between tastings. NOT to be overlooked! For this, we used your easily obtainable standard (err, premium) science crackers.

4. One standard Brita filter. I believe this cost roughly $15 at the supermarket. It probably should be used after the experiment to filter water.
Science Brita
5. Shot glasses. The shot glasses should be of different type, so as to be more easily able to distinguish between the filtered, and the control vodka.
6. Someone semi-sober to take notes. Thanks Dawn.

Notes!

7. One “Science funnel", to pour the filtered vodka back into its bottle.

science funnel

8. Coffee Grounds. It is a not so well known fact that coffee grounds will clear your nose of a scent. We used them to clear our noses to compare the smells of the filtered to the control vodka.
9. Science pole! (we couldn’t find a pole, so we used a broom) ("Are you insane, Frink? Put down that science pole!")

Procedure:
The Method for this experiment was very simple, and enjoyable, except for the waiting parts.
We would simply pour the entire bottle of vodka through the filter, wait for it to drip through, and then funnel it back into the bottle for easy pouring. We then poured off small amounts into the shot glasses for tasting. Additionally, we had shot glasses full of the control vodka for comparison. Each scienticion would taste and smell the filtered vodka. They then ate a “science cracker” and sniffed some coffee, and then taste/smell the Ketel One. The recording scientician wrote down their reactions, and the entire process was repeated. Also recorded was the start and end time of the filtering process. We noted a loss of vodka through spillage (for my science homies).

Results:
Our results were taken by our ‘reporting scientician” who diligently recorded all of our filtration times, and taste comments.

8:43 - we take out first sip.
Fletcher notes that “The world hates him".
Ken comments on both the cheapness, and the nastyness of the Vladimir.
I was apparently only able to say, “oh god", and “vile".

8:45 - The first filtration begins
(note, we had a misfire as the filter was not seated properly, so…

8:46 - The first filtration begins again.
Ken notes that the brita box tells us that the brita will reduce various elements which can cause
“long term liver or kidney damage". Hooray, we all think.

8:54 - We notice that 1.75 liters takes a really long time to filter.
I noticed that the vodka ‘looked’ better. Yay for Subjective Opinions.

9:00 - I comment on the fact that it’s STILL GOING.

9:03 - First filtration finished. Second tasting.
Ken notes that we’ve spilled some on the carpet (for my homies)
Fletcher notices little bubbles, which we later decide are probably due to pouring the vodka back into the bottle, through the funnel.
Comments:
Fletcher - “I don’t think it’s AS bad.” and “I was full well prepared to cry, and I didn’t, but it still hurts.”
Adam - “Less offensive.”
Ken - “Smoother.”
All - Still has a bad aftertaste.

9:06 2nd filtering begins
At this point, the vodka appears to be filtering faster.

9:19 - 2nd filtering ends
A decrease in the horrid smell is clear.
Comments:
Ken - “My god, that is smooth”
Fletcher - “Not bad at all”
Adam - “Much better than it originally was”
We also noticed that at this point, the Ketel One has a stronger odor.
Ken also decided at this point that he preferred the filtered Vlad to the control vodka.

9:30 - 3rd filtering begins

Success!

9:44 - End of 3rd filter cycle.
At this point the Vladimir has pretty much the same odor that it did before.
Comments:
Adam - “Even better, less noxious aftertaste.”
Fletcher - “Less aftertaste” and “Chill it, and you could probably fool most people.”
Ken - “At this time, I prefer this over Ketel One.”

9:50 - 4th filtration begins.
(Our humble scienticians at this point go to the store for snacks. Filtering Vodka is hungry work.)

10:04 - 4th filtration done.
Possibly even less scent.
Comments:
Adam - “Only slightly better, but still improved.”
Fletcher agrees.
Ken - “Tessa (my cat) licked the glass, and didn’t die.”
The scienticians agreed that after 4 filtrations, the Vladimir was smoother than Ketel one.

10:18 - 5th filtration begins
In order to remind myself, and possibly for self flagellation purposes, I tried the baseline Vladimir again. I gagged. Fun.
We decided that perhaps we shouldn’t have been quite so conservative with our tasting portions. I mean, what fun is that?

10:31 5th filtration done
Comments:
Adam - “Very little smell” and “wow it’s good now, absolutely no aftertaste.”
Ken - “Enjoyable.”
Fletcher - “Almost no flavor now.”

Success!

10:35 - 6th filtration begins
Fletcher spills his shot of control vodka. Tsk tsk.

10:49 - 6th filtration done
At this point it was clear that there were no vast improvements over the last 2 filtrations.
Comments:
Adam - “Stability achieved”
Ken “We’re there. Either we’ve burnt out the filter, or reached the point of equilibrium”

We decided that we should try this filtration chilled, so I broke out my trusty shaker and some ice.
Shake-a shake, and pour.
Comments on chilled:
Ken - “Wow” and “goes down like water.”
Fletcher - “Quite Comfortable.”
and I gave it a boring “Good.”

Conclusions:
Herein we have our staff and contributing scienticians submit their results.

Naked Communist 12-08-2005 11:46 PM

Okay, I'm going to have to try this. My hubby and I both prefer vodka as our drink of choice. My biggest question is does the filtering process reduce the alcohol content any? Is it still going to be 80 proof when I'm done? I guess the only way to tell would be to get drunk afterward....hmmmm.....twist my arm.

soma 12-09-2005 07:27 AM

I don't remember where I read it, but the alcohol content is supposed to remain constant no matter how many times it is run through the brita filter.

maleficent 12-09-2005 07:47 AM

but is he really saving money -- he's adding in 15 dollars to the cost for the filter... :)

Charlatan 12-09-2005 07:49 AM

It depends on how many times you can re-use the filter.

Besides, I'd rather just drink gin. ;)

Toaster126 12-09-2005 08:04 AM

This works. I didn't try filtering and drinking normal water afterwards, though. It's debatable whether you are better off doing this or just getting some vodka you can stomach.

If you can't drink terrible vodka, try putting it into a freezer for a while or putting it in some Red Bull or Sunny Delight. :)

rsl12 12-09-2005 08:41 AM

Hmmmmmmmmmmm....

I did some research. Short answer: Home brewery guidebooks seem to suggest that use of activated carbon (what is inside a brita filter) is strongly recommended.

http://www.alcoholpurification.com/d...distilled.html

I am at a loss, however, to think of a reason why all cheap alcohol manufacturers don't do this--activated carbon is pretty cheap. They may be correct in saying the flavor improves; however, I am still skeptical.

Longer answer: In this situation, the most significant aspect of a Brita 'filter' is the fact that it contains activated carbon. I should note that a brita filter doesn't really filter anything--it's just a bunch of 'pebbles', if you will, and water trickles down past all the activated carbon. If you had a full container of water and you dunked that brita cartridge in, like you would a teabag, maybe swish it around a bit, you should get the same purifying results.

How does activated carbon (AC) work? If you were to blow up a AC 'pebble', it would look like that asteroid with the worm in it, that you saw in Empire Strikes Back. Lots of tunnels, kind of like a sponge. Organic molecules happen past and get stuck inside the tunnels. In addition to this physical 'stickiness' there's a chemical stickiness as well. Since AC is non-polar, it tends to be 'sticky' with other non-polar molecules.

Ethyl alcohol is a pretty polar--if it weren't it would have a hard time mixing with water. So no, it would seem that the alcohol shouldn't get caught in AC.

So what, exactly, would AC adsorb? I did a quick look on the internet for what would cause off-flavors--the best I could find was this article on beer:

http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20051203/bob8.asp

Assuming that bad flavors in beer = bad flavors in vodka, we have chemicals such as

3-methylbut-2-ene-1-thiol
trans-2-nonenal
furfuryl ethyl ether

Thiol, being a sulfur analog of alcohol, I believe would lead to a polar molecule, so AC wouldn't do much. Trans-2-nonenal sounds like an aldehyde, which is polar as well. Ether is also polar. So none of these would be filterable with AC. I wonder if AC isn't used already for most alcohols, and it's the polar impurities that cause bad alcohol to be bad.

sailor 12-09-2005 09:06 AM

From what I've read, the cost of the Brita filters is more than just buying a better bottle of Vodka. Thought I suppose if you just used the cheaper activated charcoal...

Redlemon 12-09-2005 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sailor
From what I've read, the cost of the Brita filters is more than just buying a better bottle of Vodka. Thought I suppose if you just used the cheaper activated charcoal...

10 pack of Brita filters from Costco: $31.99 (link). So, add $3.20 to your bottle cost. Less if you can filter more than one bottle with one filter.

maleficent 12-09-2005 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redlemon
10 pack of Brita filters from Costco: $31.99 (link). So, add $3.20 to your bottle cost. Less if you can filter more than one bottle with one filter.

I'd think you could - I have a brita pitcher in my fridge... and replace the cartridge every 20 - 25 gallons of water... so you'd definitely get more than one bottle of vodka out of it...

That's a really good price for the cartridges (I pay about 7 dollars a cartridge)

cyrnel 12-09-2005 09:51 AM

A box of activated charcoal is about $3/L. Dust-free maybe $7/L, otherwise rinse for 5-10min first.

Cut the top curved part off a 2L soft drink bottle. Put a pinhole or two in the cap. Flip it upside down. Now you have a metering funnel. Put in a conical coffee filter, fill it with a cup of activated charcoal. Set the funnel/filter on a receiving container and start pouring.

1L of activated charcoal is probably the equivalent of 100 brita filters.

Edit: I forgot. Wet another coffee fliter and place it flat across the top of the charcoal. Press a slight depression in the middle as if you were going to fill with gravy. That's where you pour. The barrier disperses the flow and keeps it from passing too quickly over and through the charcoal.

Poppinjay 12-09-2005 09:56 AM

I've read this site before. It was what gave us the idea to make an insta-infuser.

Put desired flavors in a tea bell, or small bit of cheese cloth, place at bottom of filter well, put filter on top (or not, seems to work better if it is, though it doens't quite fit right) and pour the vodka.

Redlemon 12-09-2005 09:59 AM

Oh, and Brita filters now also contain "an ion-exchange resin" (I haven't figured out what that is) in addition to the activated carbon. They used to be just carbon.

soma 12-09-2005 07:34 PM

Just ran some vodka through a brita 7 times for a batch of jello shots. I didn't taste it, but the smell improved considerably after the 5th run or so. I'm currently running some water through the brita. Hopefully I can use it for water still...

I shall report updates as they come.

BadNick 12-10-2005 08:50 PM

Russiya seems relatively "cheap" compared to most of the better vodkas and it's already filtered five times. Besides making it taste better, I find that the extra filtering seems to really smooth out the after effects, like hangover, especially if I drink more than I should. I keep it in the freezer since I like it very cold with some good olives. I don't know if it's right, but I heard that the extra filtering removes "glycols" which are common in a lot of distilled liquors and these glycols greatly contribute to nasty after effects.

In the last few years, I seem to have gravitated toward this Russiya vodka which I first tasted at a local vodka bar, they have hundreds of vodkas on hand and some of the hardcore regulars claimed it was the best, and after extensive testing I agree. It is filtered five times while most other vodkas are filtered three times, some are four times, but five times seems to be quite rare. I live in Pennsylvania and last time I checked, the PA Liquor Control Board (PA does not have a free economy as far as selling alcoholic stuff, except beer) doesn't import and sell Russiya, so my brother-in-law and I share a case every once in a while that he buys in New York.

Maybe I'll try this brita filter trick on lousy tasting vodka and on Russiya and compare.

cyrnel 12-10-2005 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redlemon
Oh, and Brita filters now also contain "an ion-exchange resin" (I haven't figured out what that is) in addition to the activated carbon. They used to be just carbon.

Many impurities are ions (charged atoms). Ion exchange media exchanges harmless ions for those of the opposite charge. Media may use one or another charge, or a combination, depending on the targets. Negatively charged media attract metals like iron, zinc, calcium. Positively charged media attract sulfates, etc. (Consult your favorite table of elements.) It works by adsorbtion like charcoal, so needs to be protected from the flow to prevent rinsing.

I haven't seen resins from fish supply stores but wouldn't be surprised if they're available. They both need pre-filters but it seems like resins would be a good substitute for or additon to charcoal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNick
Besides making it taste better, I find that the extra filtering seems to really smooth out the after effects, like hangover, especially if I drink more than I should. I keep it in the freezer since I like it very cold with some good olives. I don't know if it's right, but I heard that the extra filtering removes "glycols" which are common in a lot of distilled liquors and these glycols greatly contribute to nasty after effects.

I think this was proved sometime in the last decade. Can't remember the source but the explanation was similar to yours. Wish I'd known about it during my younger binge days. :)

Cynthetiq 12-10-2005 10:17 PM

just remembered that I have some pineapple infusing into a bottel of vodka for the past 3 weeks.. YUM!!!

skinnymofo 12-11-2005 10:53 AM

ive read this on other sites and the consensus seemed to be that the filter would last roughly 1/2 as long as just running plain water through it.
so somewhere around 10gallons of vodka. that is a fuckload of vodka.

Cynthetiq 12-11-2005 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
just remembered that I have some pineapple infusing into a bottel of vodka for the past 3 weeks.. YUM!!!

mmm it's yummy. I'm on my third glass already... i better stop soon because I gotta work tomorrow.

Varig 12-11-2005 01:29 PM

A Russian friend tells me that they add a teaspoon of sugar to bad vodka there and pour it through some lightly crushed herbs. I have never tried it.
I drink a vodka made in Austin Texas called Tito's. It's triple distilled and not that expensive.

soma 12-11-2005 02:24 PM

After using the brita filter for two batches of jello shots, it still works like a champ for purifying water. Just rinse it out a couple times and you should be good.

duck0987 12-19-2005 05:27 PM

My sister, a college student, swears by this. Also there are commercial products to do this too:

http://graykangaroo.com/home.htm

orangemonkeyee 01-04-2006 12:49 AM

Haha. College is a great place. I ran a bottle of McCorkmick (ewy) through my Pur ultimate purifier three times. It significantly reduced the odor of the vodka and made it taste a lot less harsh. My next few batches of water were vodka flavored (nasty) . About three liters later it was back to normal

kutulu 01-04-2006 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maleficent
I'd think you could - I have a brita pitcher in my fridge... and replace the cartridge every 20 - 25 gallons of water... so you'd definitely get more than one bottle of vodka out of it...

That's a really good price for the cartridges (I pay about 7 dollars a cartridge)

Only 25 gallons per cartridge? Damn, that's 28 cents/gallon. The water stores charge 25-30 cents/gallon and it tastes a lot better.

crfpilot 01-04-2006 08:15 PM

I saw something on how to build a filter once, hold on lemme see if I can find it.

found it: click here for the filter how to

you can also build one helluva beer bong

burtsbees 01-15-2006 02:32 PM

Would this work with other liquors iinstead of vodka? Say for example..... tequila? Anyone ever heard of Hornitos? :)

asaris 01-15-2006 04:18 PM

I think with other liquors it would take out too much of the taste.

Cynthetiq 01-16-2006 07:42 AM

after watching a show on distilling from scotch to tequila, all spirits are clear and go through some sort of filtration process to get the spirits.

Flavor is added afterwards during the casking which gives colors and some flavoring via sugars in the wood barrels (if used) otherwise it's via the ingredients it is distilled from ex. gin and vodka.

asaris 01-16-2006 08:49 AM

Which is why I think it might make a difference whether you're filtering gin or vodka on the one hand and whisky on the other; the source of the flavor is different. But since I don't really know how filtering works, I'm probably just blowing smoke.

keyshawn 03-23-2006 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duck0987
My sister, a college student, swears by this. Also there are commercial products to do this too:

http://graykangaroo.com/home.htm


(I was browsing through past cooking threads and saw this one)

My friend owns one of these filters (ones specifically made for filtering vodka) and my dorm buddies swear by it too :thumbsup:
However, even with the commercial filter, we run the cheap vodka through the filter about 4-5 times in order to get optimal results. I'm not sure if they have tried it with anything else besides vodka.

I do not recommend filtering vodka on a home water filter. It's been tried before he bought the good filter, and we learned that you can only filter a couple batches of vodka through the brita filter before there's no longer any results.

catcha back on the flipside,
will.


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