06-05-2011, 12:06 AM | #1 (permalink) |
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My all-diet weight-loss progress...26lbs in less than 2 months.
---------- Post added at 01:06 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:42 AM ---------- Sorry for the huge, people without giant monitors. Also, people who can subtract will note it's really 26 lbs, not 21.
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06-05-2011, 01:49 AM | #3 (permalink) |
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I've got a doctor's appointment scheduled, but everyone who has done this diet that I've read about has had significant improvements in their cholesterol numbers, in addition to the weight loss, so I'm not worried.
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06-05-2011, 02:16 AM | #4 (permalink) |
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I'm obviously not a dietitian (hell, I'm not even close to intelligent); my occupation involves picking out meals from a prison food menu. I'm still totally baffled by how someone can eat the equiv of the grease trap at Waffle House for a month with some spinach leaves on the side and lose weight. Apparently I've got a lot to learn. I've been eating sensible USDA-recommended meals my whole life and my weight hasn't fluctuated more than 5 pounds aside from the starvation diet I was on in the military for a month.
Something tells me that without weight training and running, you'll plateau quickly when your body adjusts to the natural fat bombs you're consuming X times a day. I wonder what a diet like this would do to me. Probably make me look like your "Before" picture. If you drop to 200 on this diet, I'm going to start eating bacon sandwiches 3 times a day. Great thread. Keep us updated. Last edited by Plan9; 06-05-2011 at 02:23 AM.. |
06-05-2011, 03:04 AM | #5 (permalink) |
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If you want to read about the Keto diet, a great place to start (with lots of sources) is this blog: Joseph Arcita
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06-05-2011, 04:11 AM | #6 (permalink) |
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Are you sure it's not just the heat making you sweat pounds and pounds off?
It wouldn't be the diet I would want, but enough people have made it work. I would think that eating fruits, veggies, and lean meat would be better. Cut out the sugar, HFCS, sodium, grease, and extremely fatty foods and see what happens... |
06-05-2011, 04:52 AM | #7 (permalink) |
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9er, if I recall correctly cholesterol levels are more closely correlated with weight than consumption of cholesterol. The theory is that most blood cholesterol is synthesized from scratch, rather than absorbed in the gut.
I also remember that these low/no-carb diets are ok for the sedentary but people who are active need carbs.
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06-05-2011, 06:05 AM | #8 (permalink) | |
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Congratulations on your weight change.
Just be sure to regularly keep an eye on your cholesterol and periodically check your bone density. Heck, it would probably be a good idea to get full blood work at least annually. If you're going to go to extremes, it's best you keep a physician as a part of your team. ---------- Post added at 10:05 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:31 AM ---------- Quote:
Also, you should probably consider taking a multivitamin if you aren't already.
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Congratulations on your success! I bet you didn't suffer from hunger either. You've discovered what all the naysayers hate about low-carb diets: They really work, both to lose, and to maintain. I've been following a similar regime for several years. I'm 5'2" and weigh 108 pounds. My numbers are all good, and even my doctor, after his initial conventional wisdom skepticism, approves.
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06-06-2011, 05:51 PM | #10 (permalink) | |
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I really hope that you're taking a multivitamin.
The problem with the kids that live on ketogenic diets is getting the A, D, E, K, and trace elements that you cannot get from meat and green veggies. 90% go on calcium and ADEK supplements. about 75% have trouble with bone density after a few years. Basically, ketosis is starvation and forces the brain to burn fat for energey (oversimplified, I understand). However, there are risks to the liver and brain function that are found enough to warrant some concern. Even though, I admit, I'm the one that posted up about not getting over excited about health-related new reports. I have second-hand personal experience with this one, working with kids on the keto-diet related to seizures. They can't have leafy greens, though. But, if you don't do Keto responsibly (adding in vitamin supplements), you can have damage to body organs that depend on some measure of fats and carbs for survival.
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06-07-2011, 10:17 AM | #11 (permalink) |
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As I understand it also there are a number of fat soluble poisons that are re-released when you go into ketosis, that can tax the liver. Am I way off base here?
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06-10-2011, 08:05 AM | #12 (permalink) |
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TK , you know where stand on this one.
Short term, i think its ok to do this sort of thing. Get your insurance premium down, but eventually this sort of diet is not something you can keep for 1,2,5, or 10 years. at some point you're going to have to stop it, or change or modify it. have you tried incorporating an exercise in your diet? My biggest fear in doing a diet like this would be having consistant bad breath because of thehi protein zero-carb diet. what do you do to counter it?
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06-10-2011, 09:10 AM | #13 (permalink) | |
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Me? I just dropped 8 lbs by cutting out high fructose corn syrup. Blood sugar is an incredible thing, and carefully considering food to keep it healthy causes dramatic weight loss. "Keto diets", as tele used, just force an extreme state of gylogen-deprived blood sugar starvation - it quite literally has to convert fat to energy to avoid simply dying or going into organ failure. Aside from kidney failure and body density issues inherent in ketosis - there is compelling research demonstrating animal-heavy diets (particularly those that emphasis meats and dairy containing high levels of the protein casein) more than triple your likelihood of liver cancer, prostate cancer, breast cancer, and other hormone-linked cancers. To be fair, though, overweight and obese people have elevated risks for a number of ailments, from T2 Diabetes and CHD to cardiovascular disease.
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06-10-2011, 10:04 AM | #14 (permalink) | |
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It's as though there are people out there publishing books about how the problem with the Western diet is that it's hypoketogenic. This is not to say, however, that ketogenic states are inherently bad. If you look at certain traditional diets, some are/were essentially or mostly ketogenic. The Inuit diet for example. However, this is an extreme and rare circumstance. These people life in a harsh and limiting climate. Also, if you look more closely at the Inuit diet, it's far different from what most ketogenic-style diets would recommend: game meat (including seal, whale, caribou, fish, etc.), grasses, roots, berries, seaweed, etc. While this diet is meat-heavy and low-carb, the kind of meat they're eating is far different than what most North Americans eat. It's very rich in omega-3 (incredible protection from various heart/circulation diseases), and they eat things like the blubber and skin, which have additional nutrition. They also eat the organ meats, which have more nutrition as well. Did you know there's vitamin C in things such as caribou liver, kelp, whale skin, and seal brain? Yeah, but most of it is destroyed by cooking it, which is good that they usually eat these things raw or frozen. I was reading how they are also known to eat the contents of the stomachs of caribou they've hunted. Hey, "free" food, right? So, yeah, ketogenic diets might work better if you eat a traditional one. Inuit diet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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07-04-2011, 12:57 PM | #16 (permalink) |
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Eliminating White Starches Is Desirable
I ran into a trainer who had created a gym down the street from me and was offering group classes for an hour a day five days a week. The workouts varied every day and worked the core and muscle groups using ones on body strength. In addition, James recommended that I cut out rice, pasta, bread, dairy, cheese, wheat and other grains. The change in my body in 90 days was remarkable. Lowest triglycerides in decades, ditto the Lipid profile. All because I tackled a challenging exercise program and cut out starches from my diet. It made a believer of me. When I craved something snackwise, my fall backs were the Russell Stover sugar free coconut chocolates and nuts.
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07-04-2011, 10:39 PM | #17 (permalink) | |
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Status update: I'm now down to under 215, feel better than I ever have. An interesting side effect I've gotten lately, in addition to the clearer head and additional energy: because of reduced insulin production and increased HGH, I've had extremely vivid dreams every night, like never before. I have to say, it's pretty pleasant!
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07-11-2011, 12:40 PM | #19 (permalink) |
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I've decided to give this a try. Obviously, I live in a household with two other vegetarians, so my meat sources consist of tunafish, canned chicken, and lunchmeat. I'm taking a multivitamin, and keeping track of my diet in a computer program I use to make sure nothing is totally out of whack. I'm going to attempt to keep the fat I do eat healthy (i.e. lunch was low-fat turkey wrapped around slices of avocado). The plan is to eat a lot of eggs, egg salad, tuna salad, chicken salad, tofu, and leafy greens (something I have a lot of right now). I also have a small grill I can grill on outdoors if I get bored of eating the above.
The reason why: I've put a lot of weight on in the last couple months, and it needs to go. Like, yesterday. Something this strict is going to be a good motivator for me.
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07-11-2011, 04:17 PM | #22 (permalink) |
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What he said. But spend the money on the right stuff. I specifically look for canned chicken breast. I don't like the store brand which is "chicken" but is both dark/white meat, and some other things I have a hard time believing are chicken.
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07-11-2011, 04:22 PM | #23 (permalink) |
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If it's mechanically separated, it comes from a chicken but isn't necessarily all meat.
Either way, it's all good.
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07-11-2011, 05:32 PM | #26 (permalink) |
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I can't think of a kind of meat I haven't seen in a can.
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07-11-2011, 05:44 PM | #27 (permalink) |
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I can think of some I'm not willing to eat (I'm looking at you, vienna sausage), but canned chicken isn't one of them.
I did think about looking at the can of deviled ham. My mom used to make deviled ham salad when I was a kid and I remember liking it.
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07-11-2011, 07:50 PM | #29 (permalink) |
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That is awesome congrats on the weight loss. I thank you for posting this as it has reminded me that I need to change up my diet a bit to lose this last 10lbs that I can't seem to shake.
I've tried in the past going carb free but really had no energy and felt lethargic. I am a cyclist and ride about 500km a week at average pace of 32km/h so I am not just out for a stroll and need the energy. I did go from 225lbs to now 168-172lbs range over the course of a year by watching calories and working out almost everyday. (I am 5,10) This last 10lbs is just hanging around like an unwanted house guest so I think I am going to try and follow this the best I can and see what happens! (Already take multi-vitamins) |
07-11-2011, 08:37 PM | #31 (permalink) | |
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Although be aware, the trend on there lately is "OMG craving sweet foods...can't have sugar, rather than sack up I will just make the food I'm craving with pounds of artificial sweetners, yay me!"...not exactly what I would suggest for someone trying to get healthy when you can just tough it out for a couple weeks and have the sugar cravings go away completely.
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07-11-2011, 08:42 PM | #32 (permalink) |
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That would mean conquering my Diet Pepsi addiction...probably not something that's going to happen that quickly, or cold turkey.
Strange but true: I don't crave sugary sweets...just Diet Pepsi.
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07-12-2011, 04:31 AM | #34 (permalink) |
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This thread is encouraging me to scale back my meat intake again.
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07-12-2011, 07:13 AM | #35 (permalink) |
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Lindy, if there are two things I love in this world, they are mayonnaise and butter. I probably used a tablespoon of butter to cook my eggs this mornings (3 eggs, 1/2 cup broccoli). Yesterday I made tuna salad for dinner (served on romaine hearts) with a tablespoon or so of mayonnaise (it might have been more ).
Fat keeps you full!
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07-12-2011, 07:25 AM | #36 (permalink) |
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This might help:
The Satiety Index Fullness Factor™ — NutritionData.com What they say about apples and porridge is true. They work for me every time. Though I must say that I didn't know oranges may work marginally better. Generally speaking, protein and fibre work better for satiety than does fat.
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07-14-2011, 01:32 PM | #37 (permalink) |
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Right now my diet is something like this:
1-2 eggs for breakfast, fried or scrambled with 1/2 cup broccoli or 1/4 cup mushrooms tuna salad with romaine for lunch veggie patty with cheese, tofu, eggs with veggies, or lunchmeat roll-ups for dinner (1 slice chicken, dab of mayo, slice of avocado, and a slice of cheese), with a green salad almonds for a snack I actually got to eat lunch at work today! Usually, the chicken we get is breaded. Today we had chef salad--so lettuce, roasted chicken, and cheese. Nom. Next week there's a lunch I can eat too--turkey with cheese. I'll make it into rolls for myself. It's really going quite well, but this weekend will be the true test: my parents are coming in from out of town, so there is likely to be a lot of eating out.
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07-14-2011, 04:54 PM | #38 (permalink) | |
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Update, the shipping scale has me at 214lbs today, for another 11lbs lost. I seem to consistently wear 5lbs of clothes, so that probably means I'm around 209! At this rate, I should be under 200 by the end of August!
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This morning I had a three-egg omelet with smoked salmon, mushrooms, and asparagus, cooked in butter. One piece of rye-crisp. About a half cup of fresh blueberries. Late lunch was a Burger King double cheeseburger (sans bun) with onions and mayo and a BK side salad with Caesar dressing. No supper yet, and I hate to eat late --it's almost 10:00-- so I think I'll just have some pecans and cream cheese. Lindy Lindy |
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07-21-2011, 07:12 AM | #40 (permalink) |
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I'm down 7 lbs. in just over a week, even after a weekend where following the diet exactly was hard (lots of eating out/beer). Weight loss stalled over the weekend and I came out of ketosis, but now I'm back in moderate ketosis. I've been monitoring that with the pee sticks.
The diet program I've been using to monitor my intake and nutrients has been jacking up my calorie budget (it adjusts based on what it calculates to be your metabolism) and chastises me for not eating enough calories, but one of the things with this diet is that it does not take a lot of food to make you feel full, and so even without worrying about calories, I'm still under my calorie budget. I'm even still under a self-calculated budget of 1800 calories--I've been averaging between 1200-1500 a day. It's crazy!
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