fightnight

Yeah, I know what you mean. I'd definitely walk on eggshells with him personally, he seems like the type who could just totally lose it at any time, for any reason. I see what you're saying about Courtney too, being the perfect matchup for Shane, but I don't know that that's really what he's after, unless he's a better actor than he seems. I'm just waiting for danielle, to flip with Terry and try to find some support, has to be coming soon.

ShaniFaye

The previews for next week look interesting with them making shane look like he's lost his mind lol

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Derwood

again....

though i thought it was interesting that his "flipping out" about Cerie was really just a calculated maneuver to get people back in line. He may be nuts, but he has figured out the psychological side of this game

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mrklixx

If the rumors I hear are true, then I'll have to say no to at least one of those choices.

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robbdn

I hope Shane has totally lost it, and I hope he sticks around. If he is genuinely insane, he could easily make this the best Survivor ever, they better not get rid of him. Using a piece of wood as a Blackberry... wow... what an interesting statement about sanity and postmodernism in everyday America. Or maybe I'm reading too much into it.

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Locke7

Tough break for Bruce, hope that all came out OK for him. Just puts Terry one spot closer. With that idol, he is for sure top 5.

Daval

Well, I was very happy that Terry won immunity and the car, well deserved in my opinion. I am yet again frustrated with Danielle, she should have stayed with the people she can win against which is courtney and terry (although i guess you can say if she switched alliances she could be rejected as winner).

Anyhow, Aras is still in the game which annoys me. Cirie is an evil manipulator, geez!

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robbdn

Wow... I had no idea Cirie had it in her to put herself in control of the game... let's see if she can hang on to it... It's going to be really tough to keep Danielle in line in an alliance. I wonder if Danielle realizes she just really screwed herself over if she ends up going to the final 2? She just stabbed three jury members in the back. Cirie and Aras didn't have much to lose, so props to them from latching onto Danielle's indecisiveness.

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Locke7

It's the second time Danielle seemed to be working with Terry, that she has wavered and went back with the group.

I knew Cirie had it in her to manipulate people. She was supposed to go about week 2, but she was able to get out of that. I think she's been lying low, and now she's back to try to run it. She can't win challenges though, so she's going to need some help.

flstf

Can anyone left in the game beat Terry if he makes it to the final two? It would seem to be embaressing for the jury to vote him out after overcoming the other tribe's alliance and winning so many immunity challanges. It looks like the only way to stop him is if the producers put in some logic and or team challanges to give the others a chance.

Locke7

Please Please Please no immunity challenge that you have to answer a question right to get to take someone out. Like where you chop their rope 3 times, their voodoo doll burns. I'm fine if it's for a reward, but it's too easy for the majority to get someone out of the game with those dumb challenges.

I don't think Terry is the sure shot to win if he is final 2. He for sure gets Austin and Sally's vote... But I think the other tribe really doesn't like him. I think they'd stick with the original clan... That being said, I think Terry has a chance to win out, and if he loses won, at least he has the idol.

fightnight

I was really impressed with Cirie's reasoning, and manipulating. She's doing an awesome job, especially given that she has little or no physical edge in the game. Unforunately for her, I don't think she's going to be able to make it past F3. No one left, in their right mind (SHANE!!!!!) would choose her to go to F2 with them, it just doesn't make sense, she's pissed basically no one off. I'm all for her going as far as possible. I also want Shane to go as far as possible, if only because he's bat shit crazy.

Locke7

Although Shane was fun to watch, he well be more entertaining, mad on the jury. I figured Terry could win out, he's for sure top 3, and he'll probably win that one. I think there is a great chance he will take it all. The others have screwed up their alliance too much.

Although the previews for next week Spoiler: How many times will Terry listen to Danielle. She's only deceived him about 3 times now

highthief

Shane leaving (and probably being pretty mad about it) will really help Terry if he gets to the final 2. Can't see Shane voting for one of his former alliance members. I'm so pulling for Terry, like I haven't pulled for anyone on any Survivor series before. He's facing ridiculous odds and has won 5 immunities in a row (is that a record?).

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fresnelly

You never know. Double crossed jury members often vote with the rationale that their backstabber "played the game well". It depends on how "moral" the jury is.

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Derwood

i think it's hilarious that Shane felt safe just one tribal council after the same 3 people (Aras, Cerie, Danielle) pulled the rug out from under him with the Courtney vote. Cerie will be hung out to dry for the amount of lying she's done (should she make final two)

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flstf

If Terry doesn't give up the immunity idol, why would anyone form an alliance with him now? I think if he continues to win immunity then he doesn't vote or does he? The spoiler showing him planning something with Danielle next week doesn't seem to make sense for her unless she gets the idol.

I wonder if the producers will figure out an immunity challange that Terry can't win in order to make the game more interesting.

I assume that if you keep the immunity idol all the way to the final two that it is worthless and does not protect you from the jury.

Mister Coaster

Dang, I'm upset that my entertainment value survivor Shane is now gone.

Props to Terry for his amazing success in the face of overpowering numbers. He definately deserves to win, and I think his sheer dominance of the challenges may win him some votes, if (when) he makes it to the final 2.

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BigBen

Oh, man, can you guys imagine Terry sitting out of the grueling endurance challenge of the final three because he has the individual immunity?

That would be a challenge to watch.

And I think in the very first Survivor, Kelly (?) also won 5-7 immunity challenges in a row. Noone wanted to have her around, but when you get to that point, you are winning reward challenges.

As someone who has skipped a few meals (not by choice), I have to say that you really cannot appreciate what carbs and protein will do to your system when you are very hungry. It is like a boost of adrenaline. Other competitors cannot keep up with him if he is getting chicken, peanut butter and beer.

Down to the final 4. We have the Car Challenge next.

Cirie
Aras
Danielle
Terry

I think Terry or Aras will win the vehicle. If they pull the whole "Give your tribe-mates a vehicle each instead" then I think the winner will do it, rather than that idiot last season.

If I was Terry, who would I want with me in the final 2? Danielle, I guess.

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Mister Coaster

Um, didn't Terry already win a car?

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BigBen

WHAT??

I know I missed a couple of episodes, but the vehicle challenge was supposed to be in the final 4.

I watched last night.


Terry won a car?

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Derwood

Terry won the car last week.

And the final four is the last time the immunity idol can be played, so it's this week or never.

Daniell aligning herself with Terry only makes sense if she has Cerie with her too (so they can vote out Aras). a 2 vs 2 vote makes sense for nobody

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robbdn

A 2 vs 2 vote makes sense if one of the people who has 2 also has the immunity idol. Think about it... Danielle and Terry vote for Aras, Aras and Cirie vote for Danielle, while terry has individual immunity and gives the hidden idol to Danielle. Aras is forced out in a 2 vs. 2 situation.

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flstf

Did anyone else notice this article? It appears that they have suspended betting on Survivor due to the high number of bets coming in for Spoiler: Danielle. It looks like insiders have bet heavy on at least one other Survivor edition. I guess this makes for good odds that Spoiler: Danielle takes it all. This is dated April 11 so who knows.

Sorry if this was already posted, it is news to me.

mrklixx

That's what I was hinting to earlier in the thread when I said "if the rumors are true", but I didn't spill the beans in case folks didn't want to know. The same thing happened during The Amazing Race 7 when a ton of bets started flooding in for the eventual winners Uchenna and Joyce.

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Spoiler: If Danielle wins it all then I guess one way this can play out is Aras wins the next immunity and Terry uses his immunity idol, then Cirie and Danielle have a tie breaker, then Aras and Danielle vote Terry off, then the jury votes for Danielle. It will be a shame since no one had to work harder than Terry having to beat folks half his age so many times.

robbdn

That stuff should definitely be spoiler-tagged, don't you think? anyway....

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Daval

OK, I went through and added spoiler tags liberally.

Please do not post stuff that can ruin the outcome of the show without using the spoiler tags.

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Locke7

I think Terry will compete in this next immunity challenge. If he wins it, he gives it to his person of choice, and then if they vote for terry, he just uses the secret immunity idol. That way he can control down to 2 who gets kicked.

I heard that rumor as well. The betting thing sucks.

flstf

Speculating on who is going to win is half the fun. If you check my past posts you will see that I am wrong more than I am right, LOL.

Daval

I've got no problem speculating who is going to win, but the post above I would consider a spoiler.... There has been betting multiple times before and they are often correct.

I do hope its wrong though!

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Derwood

GAHHHHHHHHHH what a tease last night!

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BigBen

Hundred bucks says Cirie couldn't light a match in a forest fire.

Excellent episode, and I think the final 2 are going to be Danielle and Aras. Terry seemed 'off his game' last episode.

If I was Danielle or Aras, I would not want to go against Terry into the final 2. He has the "Look what a great competitor I am" card to play. Better not to risk it.

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highthief

Well, A) she lit a fire with flint last night, and B) in the preview, she seems to have a blaze going.

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BigBen

/Ben takes off his satirical hat, looks around the room...

Okaaaaaaaaay then. I would like to state that I think that Danielle is going to win the tie-break.

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Locke7

In the previews for next week, Cirie's fire was much bigger. Which means Danielle wins due to how the producers always try and hype up the actual loser.

Terry blew it, he should have given Danielle the hidden idol.

My guess is that Arus wins the next immunity and takes Danielle.

Daval

Although that may seem like a good tactic, it could have backfired massively. Danielle has backstabbed Terry twice now, why should he trust her a third time to not let out that she has the idol so they can get rid of Terry who would then be unprotected.

He made the right choice.

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Mister Coaster

^ I totally agree. Terry finally didn't win the necklace, so he made the right choice. If he had won it again, then the idol may well have come into play. I guess we'll never know.

The rest of the tribe has been trying to get rid of Terry for quite a while now, and as soon as he stuck his neck out, they would have slashed it, at least that's my guess.

BTW, that whole "...to be continued" crap really burned me up. My wife too! Shame on you, CBS.

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highthief

Agreed, Danielle has already screwed him over, she may well have done so again.

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Fremen

I don't believe Cirie made that fire, at all. No way in hell. You see how far away she was holding the flint from the leaf?
Plus, I don't recall seeing any tender to help start it with.
Then with a few judicious edits, she suddenly has a big handful of blazing tender going. Shenanigans!

Terry's got my vote.

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