Now that I think about it, she is a psychologist. She could have been treating Hurley.

Hurley was the last person to get on the plane because he lost power in the hotel room and over slept. The only person he interacted with (besides the people at the airport who were in his way and the old man he bought the wheelchair from) was Walt, a brief head nod and then Hurley sat down to listen to music and read the spanish comic book.

Maybe she was a counselor at the ward or maybe I am over-analyzing everything. This individual thinks this is the Ultimate Lost Theory What do you all think?

wow... thats a very in depth theory that blokes thought up..

id like to agree with alot of that, but then again i hope its not true

i just hope this show actually has an ending to it somehow and it do what alias did and get canned :(

or libby could be a patient at the ward and she is lying about being a psychologist

I think it's Desmond. Why else would he have a picture of him and Jack's wife in the hatch?

WHHHHAAAAA????!!?!?!?!?!?!? When did we see that? I'm not calling you a liar, I just don't remember seeing it.

^^ I can't remember it either! It was one of the other guys who pointed it out actually. I think it was revealed in the first episode (season 2)... or was it# 2 or #3? Hmm..

^^ FOUND IT! (episode 3):

http://www.losthatch.com/images%5Csc...3_Snapshot.jpg

..she doesn't look like Jack's wife, does she? :hmm:

Remember that Desmond injects himself with some type of gold colored fluid?? Well check this out:

http://www.losthatch.com/images%5Csc...ction_Vial.jpg

;)

Neat stuff Nancy...

Does that look like Jack's wife??? I forget what she looks like...

Those are the numbers on the bottle, I take it...

The official website says that the logo is a Chinese Feng Shui Ba-Gua Mirror symbol. Does anyone know what Ba-Gua means?

Some of you have discussed the link between their current situation on the island and the books which Sawyer reads. These books were located in the hatch: Henry James - "The Turn of the Screw" and Flann O'Brien - "The Third Policeman", Craig Thomas - "A Hooded Crow", Gary Phillips - "High Hand", Henry James - "The Turn of the Screw", Stuart Woods - "Dirty Work" and Tom Clancy - "Rainbow Six" <~ does anybody know what the plot of the books are?

As for the numbers:
16 - Desmonds stationary bike shows 16 mph on the speedometer [S2E1]
8 - There are 8 switches for orienting the mirrors in the hatch [S2E1]
8 - There are 8 bottles/containers of cleaning supplies in Desmond's laundry [S2E1]
4 - Desmond's blender has 4 prongs [S2E1]
4 - Desmond tosses 4 items around while making his breakfast shake [S2E1]
4 - There are 4 articles of clothing spinning in Desmond's dryer [S2E1]
42 - There are 42 water nozzle openings on Desmond’s shower head [S2E1]
4 - There are 4 jumpsuits hanging in the closet [S2E1]
23 - The number on the spin dial lock is set to 23 [S2E1]
42 - The number on the spin dial lock is paused on 42 [S2E1]
16 - The two outer rows of Desmond’s shower head contain 16 water nozzles [S2E1]
002:38 - A countdown clock displays the number 002:38 [S2E2]
002:37 - A countdown clock displays the number 002:37 [S2E2]
002:36 - A countdown clock displays the number 002:36 [S2E2]
108.00 - A countdown clock is reset to the number 108:00 [S2E2]

Ok, I'm a fan of Lost, sure, but if I ever get to the point of counting the holes in the shower head of a minor characters bathroom, shoot me. Fatally. In the face.

No. Zeke a.k.a. the Bearded Man looks like this:

http://www.losthatch.com/images%5Csc..._Man_Talks.jpg

This is Mr Alvar Hanso:

http://www.losthatch.com/images%5Csc...lvar_Hanso.jpg

Oh and:

"BIO:
First Name: Alvar
Last Name: Hanso
Sex: Male
Citizenship: Denmark
Occupation: The Hanso Foundation"

What? When did they reveal that he's from Denmark?! :eek:

Oh and remember when the Bearded Man says: "Bring 'er out, Alex!". <~ Could that be Alex - Danielle's daughter?

I found the facts on the website - I swear! :D

LOL. I believe you. You're too hot to be that much of a nerd.

^^ Thanks.. I guess :crazy: :D

It said 3 of 6 :

http://www.losthatch.com/images%5Csc...ion_3_Of_6.jpg
The Swan is #3 of 6 stations.

Emma's bear
http://www.losthatch.com/images%5Csc...Teddy_Bear.jpg

Bear belonging to The Others:
http://www.losthatch.com/images%5Csc...The_Others.jpg

Is it the same bear? As far as I remember they left Emma's teddybear on the beach when they kidnapped her and her brother.. right? :hmm:

I hadn't even noticed that :o Did it only happen in one particular episode?

Numbers
 

http://www.losthatch.com/images%5Csc..._Graphitti.jpg

Apart from the numbers I spot "sick" at the bottom, right after the "M".. perhaps it says "I'm sick"? :confused:

The bearded guy does look a bit like Hanso, just with a beard. Hard to tell. Remember, one of the things they are working on is slowing or halting the aging process.


I think you are right about Alex.



By the way, I am starting to thing this might be in the future.

Really? I totally missed that :crazy: What other projects were they working on?

Future? :hmm:

You guys are really observant. I read that guy's theory - it is impressive. I have to say that I'm hoping that the explanation for all this doesn't turn out to be some mystical or creepy sci-fi thing. Part of this show's appeal is trying to figure it all out, and if at the end the writers pull some trump card like "collective consciousness" or something, I think it'll be a big let down. All the weird coincidences are one thing - futuristic explanations that are utterly unpredictable = lame.

There is a website -- www.thehansofoundation.org -- that I can't get to work right now, but you can see most of it summarized on wikipedia, here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hanso_Foundation

Some of the projects they were working on include:

Life Extension
Electromagnetic Research
Quest for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence
Mathematical Forecasting
Cryogenics Development
Juxtapositional Eugenics
Accelerated Remote Viewing
The Dharma Initiative


The idea that they are in the future comes from both the link to the Ultimate Lost Theory (a page or so back) where it is suggested that the survivors were frozen and then reawakened to repopulate the Earth (or something like that) as well as some comments made by the creators of the series. One of them mentioned, in passing, the people assume this is happening in 2004 (i.e. when the show started it's run) it could be happening at another time.

Alone that comment could mean anything, but when combined with the Ultimate Theory, it starts to have more meaning.

It is every time they are in the hatch. IN fact it was even when they were in the hatch on the other side of the island.

Sometimes it is subtle, but it did it even when they were in there grabbing guns to go look for Michael.

Really? I'll check it out and see if I can get some screenshots for you!

Does someone have a TIVO of the episode that they can scan frame by frame? Otherwise we may have to wait for the Season II DVD in August to check out Mondak's theory. I don't think VHS will be accurate enough to capture this sort of detail.

I'm curious. Has anyone noticed any parallels or nods to the old <i>The Prisoner</i> series? I'm not enough of a devotee to catch anything.

As for Mondak's observation about music in the hatch, I've also been wondering about the significane of the sound effect used to transition between present and past. It's sort of a white noise wooshing sound.

I watched it carefully yesterday and allthough I did detect som flickering on the screen from time to time it didn't seem to be images and allthough I looked for some I couldn't find any :(

No - it is the audio and not the video. It is pretty clear like a record slightly skippin or if a casette tape were chewed up.

Ahh, I see. They must have invented the same gold colored fluid that Desmond injects himself with too then.

Speaking of which. Some seem to think that the same drug was given to Sarah right before her operation..
http://www.losthatch.com/images%5Csc...h_Injected.jpg

Oh! I totally misunderstood you. Sorry heh. I'll have another look tonight then!

Now that was an intense epsiode. I thought Sawyer was going to be conned by Cassidy, but he did the switch-a-roo combo at the end and still had the 600 grand. Fantastic!

He was also quite clever with getting access with the guns just because Jack took the meds.

I also thought it was interesting how Hurley was talking to Sayad about the actual time of where they were getting the signal. Something interesting to think about...

Next week episode should be good since Sayad is going to be torturing one of the others and they are going to let the time end! WOo hoo, let's see what happens!

Yeah, I can't wait to see the clock strike zero. Might be interesting.

Wow, its really getting nuts in here. I just wanted to comment on the episode and there's a full page of theories. Anyway, i thought it was a great episode. Sawyer's the new sheriff in town. I wonder how long that will last. I dont think he wants that much responsibility. Although, it may be the beginning of the army that we were so anxiously awaiting to see this week. Next week is going to be awesome. Clock goes down to zero and who is being tortured. Im thinking they found out it was Charlie who faked the kidnapping of Sun.

Theories on what will happen when the clock gets to 0? I predict the hatch will shut down and/or implode and they won't be able to use it anymore... they've got the guns out, the food out, there's not much else of value down there...

I think the momentary exchange of power, but I don't think it'll rest for long in Sawyers lap. I think a crisis will come up like next week and Sawyer will have to admit that he cannot handle being in charge so he'll relinquish it over to Jack... or something like that.

On an island full of self loathing individuals, I think Sawyer may be the king of the self-loathing. He is one seriously fucked up individual.

I'm beginning to think this island is one big group therapy session... :lol:

This certainly puts a twist in power structure. I'd just like to know how Charlie, of all people, managed to track Locke without Locke discovering him.

I don't see how Sawyer is going to keep the supplies hidden from the group for that long. He's going to have to visit the cache at some point and Locke or Kate (or someone with tracking abilities) will discretly follow him.

book
 

A book they showed in the episode, i believe locke was looking at it was "an occurence at owl creek bridge"

I want to say this is by ambrose bierce but anyways it deals with "stream of consciousness"

The book goes something like this:

A man is being hanged for his crimes, the floor drops out, he falls and the rope breaks, he cant believe it and starts running into the forest. People are chasing him and hes running and running and running. He is free and he cant believe that he didnt die, he runs all the way back to his house to see his wife. The whole story is this long journey home from the place where he was supposed to be hung. The story ends with him hanging from the rope dead.

He lived hours and hours in his mind in the 2 seconds it took for him to drop from the beam and be hung.

His mind and the human mind can do this, think about a million things in a split second.

now dont quote me on exactly how this book goes, i havent read in 10 years but i remember a lot of it and basically the story.

Could this be a clue about the lost gang, could the plane have actually crashed and all of what has been goin on, is simply in someones mind ?

It could be, it could also be a red herring.

A) He was in a hurry, since he had no idea when the "posse" would show up.

B) One person trying to lug a big ass bag(s) of guns through the jungle could not possibly be that stealthy.




P.S. I guess everybody saw Kate's mom in the Sawyer flashback. I didn't realize it was her until the wife said something.