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Old 03-23-2006, 10:08 AM   #361 (permalink)
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Has anyone read the diary on the Lost homepage?

http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/diary/105169.html
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Old 03-23-2006, 10:34 AM   #362 (permalink)
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Woah... that was wierd. Spoiler: It implies that there are "Others" in the group. There are 40 or so survivors. We have met, maybe, half of them.

It also clarifies that Gale is an "other." not that I doubted he was anything but that... did you see him twist the knife, again with Locke and Jack at the end of the episode? Gale is a real piece of work.
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Old 03-24-2006, 01:45 PM   #363 (permalink)
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Well, Gale could be messing with Jack and Locke's heads to see what they will do next. Gale seems like the manipulative type that is for sure, trying to mess with everyone's comfort zone's.
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Old 03-24-2006, 03:22 PM   #364 (permalink)
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Good news is the next episode looks exciting.
We should count how many times that's been said in this thread.
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Old 03-25-2006, 09:13 PM   #365 (permalink)
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We should count how many times that's been said in this thread.
Probably only 4 times... maybe 8... on second thought 15.....
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Old 03-26-2006, 04:41 AM   #366 (permalink)
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Yeah? Well the next post looks like it will be exciting...
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Old 03-26-2006, 05:54 AM   #367 (permalink)
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Old 03-26-2006, 06:32 AM   #368 (permalink)
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Woah!!! That post was *exciting*!
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Old 03-27-2006, 03:18 AM   #369 (permalink)
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Well, Gale could be messing with Jack and Locke's heads to see what they will do next. Gale seems like the manipulative type that is for sure, trying to mess with everyone's comfort zone's.
Just joining the Lost crowd. I burned through season one last week and then DL'd season two this week and watched it. I can't believe it took me this long to get caught up with this show!

Anyway, I've little doubt at this point that Gale is an other. But...giving him the benefit of the doubt, if someone locked you in a room for three days with Crime and Punishment and a lot of people torturing you, I imagine you'd have a great deal of time to sit and think about how you might lash out at those responsible for your imprisonment if given the opportunity. Under those conditions, I see no reason why an otherwise normal person might show some much more serious malice.

If he is an other, though, his plot is ridiculous. The plan would've had to go something like, "I'm going to wander down into their territory. There's a chance I get caught, in which case I'll pretend to be Henry Gale and tell them [fill in story here]. Eventually I'll draw a map for them to come check my story out. I don't know how long this will take me or if it will happen, but make sure you have people stationed at the ambush point all the time until I come back in case I need you to take them hostage for an exchange. See you later!"

It may very well happen like that anyway, but I think it sounds pretty absurd, all things considered.

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Old 03-27-2006, 06:04 AM   #370 (permalink)
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I don't think it is *that* absurd when looked at it like this:

Scientist out doing scientisty things. Crazy French woman hiding in the bush, catches you. She give you to the folks you have been studying on the beach.

You are a crafty bastard. You make up a story and stick to it. You work your group dynamics mojo on them and seriously fuck with their fragile power base, pitting one against the other.

You draw a map leading to where there are regular patrols by your people. By now they know you have been captured. They capture your captors and then trade for you.


It's a good plan. Except for the fact that Jack and Locke already know he is an "other" and are playing him.
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Old 03-27-2006, 01:14 PM   #371 (permalink)
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I don't think it is *that* absurd when looked at it like this:

Scientist out doing scientisty things. Crazy French woman hiding in the bush, catches you. She give you to the folks you have been studying on the beach.

You are a crafty bastard. You make up a story and stick to it. You work your group dynamics mojo on them and seriously fuck with their fragile power base, pitting one against the other.

You draw a map leading to where there are regular patrols by your people. By now they know you have been captured. They capture your captors and then trade for you.


It's a good plan. Except for the fact that Jack and Locke already know he is an "other" and are playing him.

A couple of thoughts on that theory.

Since this is "their island", chances are that they have the hatch bugged, so they know what's going on anyway. And, that's not even acknoledging the fact that Russeau (crazy french woman) may be an "other" as well. I mean, look at the amount of things set into action based on information she has provided, as well as that no one actually saw her capture Gale, just the end "result".

The show that makes you go hmmmm.
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Old 03-27-2006, 01:24 PM   #372 (permalink)
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That Rousseau could be an "other" is a very real possibility.
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Old 03-27-2006, 01:35 PM   #373 (permalink)
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why do the other's care anyways? I would have thought that a new batch of folks would have been welcome. More to play.
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Old 03-27-2006, 04:33 PM   #374 (permalink)
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Kinda off topic....

Do you think they're going anywhere with the 'Hurley sneaking food' sub-sub-subplot?
Or is it just comic fodder?

Personally, I like the Hurley character and don't want to see him turned into one continuous fat joke.

I hope it's another of the writer's intricate plotlines in the making.


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Old 03-27-2006, 05:27 PM   #375 (permalink)
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I think Hurley sneaking food is a comic relief side thing. I doubt it'll go anywhere, and I'm confident that he'll be doing plenty of other things than being a fat joke.

Now Charlie bringing the gun on the parachute expedition on the other hand, that could get dangerous...I don't believe for a second that Sayid and AL missed that coincidence.
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Old 03-29-2006, 07:04 PM   #376 (permalink)
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Our conclusion about gale is correct! He is an other and he is not actually gale.

Also, when John Locke was trapped under the door the neon lights came on and displayed an image showing 4 or 5 small hatches and a middle larger hatch. One of the hatches had a question mark around it.

Are these buildings surrounding the larger building part of this large experiment group and what are there meanings? What are their functions?
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Old 03-29-2006, 07:08 PM   #377 (permalink)
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Someone has to have a screen grab of that image.

A lot actually happened in that episode. Most importantly, Locke is showing his weaker side.

I wonder if he is going to try and protect "gale" from the rest, when they try to kill him?
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Old 03-29-2006, 07:14 PM   #378 (permalink)
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I would hope after all the evidence Sayid has displayed to Gale right in front of Locke that he would accept the findings.

I also forgot to mention the fact that Locke met Sayid's old gf when locke was inspecting her house for mold. So far, each main character has met and or spoke to someone who is related to a person on the island.
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Old 03-29-2006, 09:12 PM   #379 (permalink)
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I also forgot to mention the fact that Locke met Sayid's old gf when locke was inspecting her house for mold.
Wow, that one slipped right by me.


Also something else that my wife pointed out watching tonights episode to add to the theories pile: Henry Gale is the name of Dorothy's uncle from The Wizard of Oz, and the wizard arrived in Oz via balloon.
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Old 03-29-2006, 09:50 PM   #380 (permalink)
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Wow, cool episode. Spoiler: Now we know for sure Gale is an Other, and he has ULTERIOR motives.

Looks like Hurley's getting a, (dare I say) meatier role in next week's episode.
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Old 03-30-2006, 03:25 AM   #381 (permalink)
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Here is the image of what Locke viewed during the ultraviolet lights action:
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Old 03-30-2006, 05:32 AM   #382 (permalink)
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Old 03-30-2006, 05:39 AM   #383 (permalink)
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Thanks for linking those MonomAnny... lots of information there.

What do you guys make of the food drop? It seems to suggest that there is still a living world outside the island. It pretty much kills any idea that this is set in the future.
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Old 03-30-2006, 07:27 AM   #384 (permalink)
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So I presume that this is a map of the Dharma complex, or what remains of it, as drawn by someone who spent a lot of time exploring it, but was not fully knowledgable?

I also gather the hatch area, is the section at the bottom center, indicated by "I am here".

My other guess is that the hospital complex where Claire was kept, is where it says "the Staff"
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Old 03-30-2006, 07:34 AM   #385 (permalink)
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so "henry gale" is mr. eko's brother.... interesting.
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Old 03-30-2006, 07:53 AM   #386 (permalink)
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so "henry gale" is mr. eko's brother.... interesting.
I must have missed that, can you explain?
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Old 03-30-2006, 07:58 AM   #387 (permalink)
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Mr. Eko's brother was in the plane that Eko burned.

The Henry Gale in the gravesite was from Michigan.
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Old 03-30-2006, 08:59 AM   #388 (permalink)
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Here's another photo I found while sifting through a couple of Lost sites...

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Old 03-30-2006, 11:15 AM   #389 (permalink)
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Wow, great episode. I liked that we got to see a weaker side of Locke, his dependent side. He's such a strong person most of the time, but the flashbacks in this episode showed that his past still leaves him vulnerable.

I wasn't a big fan of the nod to the popularity of Texas Hold'Em though. Felt like they were just playing to the masses.

Those pictures are incredible - I'm amazed that they've already been broken down that much and the episode wasn't even 24 hours ago.

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Old 03-30-2006, 12:38 PM   #390 (permalink)
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This is just speculation and I heard it somewhere else, but it makes sense to me Spoiler: It's possible the closing of the blast doors was because of the food drop happening outside. Dharma doesn't want anyone going out when it happens. Also, it's possible Henry Gale is Rose's brother. This is backed up by the "diary" on the ABC website.
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Old 03-30-2006, 01:17 PM   #391 (permalink)
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I WAS JUST trying to throw you off. theres so many spoilers and possible solutions people have and make up, i just wanted to see if anyone would roll with that one.
Sorry... just an experiement.

Anyways, AMAZING episode.
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Old 03-30-2006, 01:26 PM   #392 (permalink)
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Mr. Eko's brother was in the plane that Eko burned.

The Henry Gale in the gravesite was from Michigan.
I thought he was from Minnesota?

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Wow, great episode. I liked that we got to see a weaker side of Locke, his dependent side. He's such a strong person most of the time, but the flashbacks in this episode showed that his past still leaves him vulnerable.
Yep, and I liked how when Gale asked him if he could walk, Locke hesitated like he wanted to give in, but instead dug down and found the fortitude to fight the pain and become his strong new self once again.

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I wasn't a big fan of the nod to the popularity of Texas Hold'Em though. Felt like they were just playing to the masses.
The writers might have been doing that, on the other hand, I just finished an article in Maxim magazine w/Jorge Garcia, saying most of the cast members liked to get together and play poker at one another's houses each week after watching the show. So it could've been an inside nod to those sessions.
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Old 03-31-2006, 01:24 AM   #393 (permalink)
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I was thinking that the gates closed during the drop as well. It makes sense that they don't want to get hit by droping chutes...

The thing is, why did none of the survivors hear an airplane? It would have made a lot of noise, as it would have had to come in low to make a precise drop.

Another translation of the wall:
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say that "Cerberus" refers to the black cloud monster, and that it's out of control due to one of the "incidents" mentioned here. Furthermore, the Others are no longer in full control of the island and it's facilities.
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Going off the hatch drawing for a second...

I think now that "Henry" has gotten an explanation of the hatch and what they do in it (from Locke), he may have re-thought his position on the Lost crew. He may realize they're not out to harm, not pressing the button for some sadistic reason (that they know of). I dunno, just a random guess. Maybe he'll figure out a way to get what he's learned to the rest of the Others.

Of course.. then the show would lost a major plot point

I haven't seen any info on the future Lost (no 'coming next week' or spoilers), so this may be disproved at some point.
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Old 03-31-2006, 05:39 PM   #396 (permalink)
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When Locke was in the parking lot of the motel where his father was staying, 2 planes flew by overhead. Did they have a Dharma logo on the tail? I couldn't quite see - I watched on iTunes download, and the picture wasn't clear enough.
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When Locke was in the parking lot of the motel where his father was staying, 2 planes flew by overhead. Did they have a Dharma logo on the tail?
That wouldn't be surprising in the least. Unfortunately, I don't have downloads of the episodes.

As an aside, Lost has made me think a lot about the complaints big media corporations have with media being available in digital form (illegal: music downloads, movie downloads, tv downloads, etc). It's funny to me because there are so many things in this show that are geared towards people freeze-framing episodes to glean every possible bit of information from it. ABC may be different though because Lost is downloadable legally from iTunes, correct?

Either way, I still find it amusing.

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Has to be Oceanic. No other airline would let them put their logo in a show about a plane that crashes.
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I WAS JUST trying to throw you off. theres so many spoilers and possible solutions people have and make up, i just wanted to see if anyone would roll with that one.
Sorry... just an experiement.

Anyways, AMAZING episode.
I'd personally request that people refrain from deliberate disinformation. Things are confusing and crazy enough (as these diagrams show) without it. I love speculation as much as the next guy, but don't try to throw us off.
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