haha... so the last "team immunity challenge" would really be a one-on-one challenge? lol

that's what i was saying... she totally screwed herself. she has no one on her side now at all.

the thing is about this survivor... since koror hasn't gone to a tribal council yet, we don't really know who has alliances with who. they obviously work well together... so i don't see any reason any of them should ally themselves with any ulong members. they might as well just vote all of them out first and go from there... but of course, that will never happen because it makes the most sense. :)

I think Coby's semi-alliance would welcome Ulong more than Tom's alliance, since it would give them the numbers to take them out.

Also, I don't know if its just me, but Pringles and Mai Tais don't seem like much of a reward. Sure they haven't had much to eat, but couldn't they just give them some substantive food item on top of the Pringles?

First, they usually merge at 10, so I don't think it's happening this week.

Second, it ALWAYS looks like a simple thing for the tribe who has numbers to simply pick off the other tribe post-merger, but they never do. Look at last season. The guy who won was the only guy among a tribe full of women who said repeatedly that they wanted an all woman final four. Well guess who won? How hard would it have been to just get rid of him? I bet Stephanie makes it far post-merge.

Plus, as stated earlier, Koror hasn't had a chance to eliminate the "chaff" from it's own tribe. They got rid of Willard, but don't you think they want Katie and Karen gone right away?

well... next week should be the merge. i can't believe ulong lost every single immunity... that's just crazy.

i think that koror will use the merge to finally get rid of some of the dead weight (i.e. a few of the girls) instead of vote out the rest of ulong. or... i could see them trying to vote out tom as soon as possible, he's definitely the biggest physical threat. should be interesting... i can't wait!

That episode was a little on the boring side. The shark bit was cool, but no major drama or anything. Both challenges were a little on the quiet side, no major excitement or action. Man, I thought I was going to fall asleep during the immunity challenge.

The only thing that made it worthwhile was a wet steph.

Yeah she was cute wet:) Not many girls can pull that off:)

Demographic Update for April 1, 2005

MALE - 5
FEMALE - 5

UNDER 30 - 5
OVER 30 - 5

ALABAMA - 1
CALIFORNIA - 2
OHIO - 1
TEXAS - 1
PENNSYLVANIA - 1
FLORIDA - 1
ILLINOIS - 1
NEVADA - 1
NEW YORK - 1

they HAVE to merge now. Ulong can't vote anymore (Steph votes for BJ and vice versa...always a tie).

I do think Koror will make the mistake of getting rid of some of their own before going after Steph and BJ. Then Steph will start winning individual immunity and last till the final 4

Chances are they will merge, but I'm hoping to see a twist along the lines of having Koror vote on which member of Ulong to keep for their own tribe. Accordingly, the other would be voted out.

The new demographics for April 7.

Demographic Update for April 1, 2005

MALE - 4
FEMALE - 5

UNDER 30 - 4
OVER 30 - 5

CALIFORNIA - 2
OHIO - 1
TEXAS - 1
PENNSYLVANIA - 1
FLORIDA - 1
ILLINOIS - 1
NEVADA - 1
NEW YORK - 1

apparently the twist of this season is that there is no twist... no switching up tribes, no early merge... just let koror kill off all of ulong.

they have to merge next week... right? lol

Wait a second... There is only 9 people left, that means everyone still on the show is on the jury. Usually they make a bigger deal of that. It's kind of cool though pretty much everyone on the jury will have been together for all of the days (except steph).

I liked Bobby John, but I'm glad Steph won. But what's with that challenge. You have to start a fire and here are some matches.

Oh and I'm tired of Jen as well. She is worthless. Does nothing at camp. Doesn't do the challenge and then tries to push that she needs a shower. How bout you let the guy that just ate 9 duck baby things.

Show will get interesting now. Now we get to see Koror start to think about voting others out.

Although Steph is at a disadvantage being the only Ulong left, she has at least been busting her ass at all those challenges while most of Koror has been sitting around getting fat. When it comes time for individual immunity, Stephanie will be one monster of a competitor, and those deadweight Korors are going to start falling off like dead leaves.

Steph ROCKS... I hope she takes the whole friggin thing... :)

She's so hawt too!

the thing is... now that it's individual immunity, it doesn't matter as much that they are the weakest players because they're not a threat. hopefully they do get voted out soon though... none of the women on koror deserve to win.

I agree that most of the Koror women are lazy and whine too much... but I think Caryn has shown that she can work hard and play hard. I also think she's been a factor on some of the reward/immunity challenge wins. The problem is that Koror has had to sit out so many of their members each time that you don't get to see who is a good player and who isn't, you only get to see Tom, Ian, Coby, and Greg over and over and over again.

double post

I think given that in some way BJ and Steph were a "final 2" they should have come up with a twist where the outvoted Ulong would have been their jury and voted for the Ulong Survivor. That make a fire challenge was lame and unexciting, and most definitely not worthy of determining the fate of players the caliber of BJ and Steph.

I agree about the fire challenge being pretty lame, but I guess they were restricted because it was night time. I've been a fan of Ulong since the beginning, so I'm hoping Stephanie goes far.

Who says that it's now individual immunity? Still two tribes, right? Who is to say that next week's immunity challenge could just end up meaning Stephanie is gone if she doesn't win?

i'm just assuming, of course... but you have to admit that it would be pretty stupid of them to not merge next week. the remaining survivors will be on the jury, so doesn't it make sense to merge the tribes so that everyone has a say in who is on the jury or not?

also, if they didn't merge... that would make the challenges one-on-one, which means koror could consistently put steph up against tom and another of their strongest competitors... hardly fair.

finally, steph would be over at ulong's camp completely alone for days and days... meaning she'd be doing everything from fishing, getting water, breaking coconuts, cutting wood, keeping the fire going... there's no way they can expect her to do that all by herself for more than a day or two.

but hey, they certainly have the power to make whatever rules they want... so it could happen. i just think it would be completely unfair to expect one person to go against an entire tribe even for just an episode... so i say they merge.

After watching her and Bobby Jon struggle with that outrigger, I want to know how she managed to get back to camp by herself after the last Tribal Council.

I've heard (unofficially) that the tribes get driven place to place in SUV's and all the canoe/hiking stuff is just for show...

Well, that WOULD explain their immaculate timing in arriving at challenges within seconds of each other.

I'd like to see the SUV that takes them across water from island to island. ;) Check out http://www.claycritters.com/map/survivor_10_map.htm to see the islands of Palau, and where the camps are.

But I was thinking the same thing about how did she get back. I'm hoping one of the camera men puts down the camera for a bit and helps paddle. Don't know about you, but I don't think those outriggers paddle well with one person. I've tried it on a canoe before and it's a pain in the tail.

The SUV story came from Survivor Australia or Africa I think. Maybe they tow the outriggers with a speed boat or something.

I could see her getting a big of assistance, but I hardly doubt they are ferried around in speedboats and SUV's.

I could care less if they are helped out. It's entertaining.

Question: Is there a spoilers page anywhere on the internet that talks about 'Survivor: Behind The Camera', or something like that. I'm sure it would be a lot of speculation and/or lies, but I would LOVE to hear/ read about some of the stuff that goes on on Survivor when the Camera shuts off. I would love to see actually how civilized it actually is. I would love to see pictures of the girls putting the Crest WhiteStrips on in Probst's trailer. I would like to see some outtakes or bloopers. Call me skeptical, but I just think there's more that's NOT shown on Survivor than there is shown.

MALE - 3
FEMALE - 5

UNDER 30 - 4
OVER 30 - 4

CALIFORNIA - 2
OHIO - 1
PENNSYLVANIA - 1
FLORIDA - 1
ILLINOIS - 1
NEVADA - 1
NEW YORK - 1

Tom is a flat-out moron.


Last night when he won the first individual immunity he should have given it to Stephanie. If he didn't plan on voting her out the first night, by giving it to her he would have secured her as part of his tribe and been able to keep her in his back pocket for the remainder of the game. There is no way he was at ANY risk and therefore should have used his bargining chip to guarantee himself a 5 person alliance.


Moron.

Yeah, obviously there's a lot more going on than they show. All of the contestants and crew have to sign a non-disclosure agreement stating that they won't talk about anything that goes on behind the scenes for a certain period of time--maybe 5 or 10 years?--after the show airs. In the contestants' contracts, it's a 5 million dollar forfeiture for violating the contract.

Now, that doesn't mean there isn't anything like that around, but if there is, it would most likely be anonymous, and thus, suspect.

Coby got blindsided!!!!

did you see how shocked Janu was when it wasnt her?

Coby committed Survivor suicide. He was asking to get voted off. He seemed happy to be voted off.

If I were Tom, I would not have given up immunity. It would be a very cocky move. Has anyone ever given up individual immunity in all the seasons of survivor?

Oh cause Tom hasn't been cocky so far?

C'mon, if he's given the necklace to Steph he would have had her, Ian, Gregg and his girlfriend and that other chick kissing his ass all the way to the final 3.

Yes they did sapiens Burton gave up his immunity to Rupert on Pearl Island

I didn't think of it last night, but reading the idea here, of tom giving up immunity to Steph, it would have been a great play.

Thanks for listening.

I am so glad Coby is gone. One more bitchy quote from him would have made me turn off the TV. And what's with Katie and the only vote for Janu. That chick might be clueless...

Anyways, it's a whole new show now, I love it. The fact that Coby told Steph about Greg's plan to jump over could now hurt Greg pretty bad. I hope she tells Tom and/or Ian.

Can't wait for next week!

Yeah, did you see that scenes from next week? Funky. Definetely not missing next week's show.

I'm glad Janu threw herself under the bus, whether it was for Stephanie or not (I think it was for the little voices in her skinny head).

You had to have mixed feelings for Stephanie. Yes, she had a point about how unfair it would be to get voted off when she wants to be there so bad while someone else could care less, but on the other hand, the person who wins this game doesn't really deserve it half of the time (Vecepia, Sonya, Jenna, Tina)

MALE - 3
FEMALE - 4

UNDER 30 - 4
OVER 30 - 3

CALIFORNIA - 2
OHIO - 1
PENNSYLVANIA - 1
FLORIDA - 1
ILLINOIS - 1
NEW YORK - 1


If the previews are accurate and the ladies really do form a female alliance, I think it would be tremendously ironic that the women of Survivor 10 would be able to accomplish the thing that the bitches from Survivor 9 were religiously devoted to, but couldn't pull off.

Good points here, Derwood. I was glad Janu took the dive. Clearly she didn't want to be there in the first place. I mean, I DON"T GET IT! Why the crap would you go to all the trouble of sending in a taped audition and last as long as she did just to GIVE UP??? What with this "I"ve got all I wanted out of this experience" B.S.???

You are so right that lots of people who win don't deserve it. You forgot that biggest undeserving winner of the history of the show - AMBER. She did nothing. Less than nothing.

I love Steph though. She's wicked. And she is so hot. She's such a hard worker. My wife said she'd marry Steph if she was a man.

I have to have faith that Mark Burnett knows what he's doing when he casts these shows. Who says they only pick the applicants most likely to win?

and its not like its the first time anybody has ever quit either.

I'm betting that we were seeing the results of one not having their Zoloft for 30 or so days. :crazy:

And remind me never to go to the Tropicana in Vegas if their showgirls look like Janu, because even "cleaned up", she's down right scary.

http://wwwimage.cbsnews.com/images/2...age690138x.jpg

My favorite part about the show this week was Probst pretty much talking her in to leaving. I think he wanted Steph to make it longer. Usually Probst flips when people want to leave this time he was totally leading her. And twisting her words until she finally said, yup, I want to leave so Steph can stay. It was perfect.

And I totally disagree with people saying that people that win don't deserve it. Take Tina for example. Colby was the man, won lots of challenges, strong, should have won the whole thing. But he brought Tina with him. Which makes him the dumbest survivor contestant ever to play. If he would have just brought the jerk Chef (Keith) with him, he would have won hands down. He, by far made the worst decision a contestant ever made. I thought the guy was great too, hoping he'd win it the whole time, and when it was down to 3 I knew he would, until he said he was keeping Tina. I just shook my head and said, you just lost 900k. And he did...

a buddy at work pointed out this article:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7603562

interesting... my take on the TC was that jeff pretty much baited her into quitting, but Janu claims that wasn't the case.

another article:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7602774/

I think in the end it makes Stephanie an even bigger target, especially if she can't mobilize all the other females, ( a seemingly difficult task) or win immunity ( something Steph needs to do badly but is in tough vs. 108 Truck guy)
But man is she a tough cookie. When's that bra gonna fall off?

Yes, she needs to win immunity. Something she has NEVER done in this game!

As for the whole thing with Janu being baited into quitting. I think Jeff gets a little angry when someone wants to quit. I think he has a lot of pride in this show. I was glad to see Steph stick around. Not only because im from Jersey too, but she's a great player and adds a lot to the show.

It kinda sucked this week. I had it spoiled for me. Some Presidential special report came on and Survivor was on an hour later. So the second commercial into the show and an 11 oclock news ad comes up saying, "Later, we'll have a talk with Steph from Survivor." That totally sucked. I bet someone gets sued over that. I really hated to see her go, i was hoping Tom would set something up for her. So its just Koror now and Tom is the main target. He will regret not keeping Steph.

Caryn pissed me off last week. I hate players that are afriad to take things into their own hands. Steph had a great idea for the women to pick off the men. The three women would have been guaranteed the final four but Caryn believed Tom's line of crap.

Here is a clue: If there are 7 players and someone says "we have a group of 5, with you we'd have a group of 6" YOU are the next target and you need to band with the person getting voted off with this vote. Caryn, Steph, and any two others. That's all it would have taken.

The women's alliance would not have lasted into the final four. Having said that, I really did think that they were going to go through with it.

I think Katie is gone next, with Caryn taking her place. It really is going to get interesting though because its all Koror now, and the Tom-Ian-Katie--Greg-Greg's girl alliance is pretty much done with.

Katie is the swing vote this week for sure. Unless Ian turns on Tom, I don't foresee the Ian/Tom/Caryn trio breaking up. Gregg/Jen are a couple, so count on them to be solid. So Katie has the choice of voting with the first group and having the numbers (smart), or voting with the second group and creating a tie (dumb). If you are ever in a situation where you have the choice between a tie and a win, you go for the win. It's all about getting one episode farther at this point.

Any pics of Steph?

Well, Katie smartened up and voted on the winning side (as I said she should). Time to watch Jen scramble this week. Talk about needing immunity!

Too bad I fell asleep and missed the first half of the show. Damn you CBS Producers and your "never show repeats of Survivor" rules!

I love my timeshifting service - if I miss the east coast feed, then I can watch it on a west coast feed 2 hours later. TiVo is also good :)

Otherwise was a decent episode - I thought that Ian telling Katie might seriously backfire, but thankfully it didnt. He pissed me off since he was the ringleader of Steph going home.

The look on the Juries face as the vote went down was hillarious.

I'm so glad Gregg was gone.

I think it was a very strategic play on his part. They made it sound like he did it RIGHT before they had to leave, so she didn't even have time to go back to Gregg and Jen. She's such a pushover though. Caryn could probably talk Katie in to an alliance with her and Willard top 3...

I won't spoil anything from tonight, but I must say:

BEST EPISODE EVER. No, seriously, this was a hella-good episode that really took me by surprise with a lot of what happened. These people are playing the game HARD!

I don't know about the best ever, but I agree it was a good episode, Derwood :)

Ian screwed up royally when he picked Tom instead of one of the girls to go with him to the mansion.
You gotta keep the gender majority separated as much as you can at this juncture of the game.

Has Caryn watched any other Survivor seasons?
You don't go off on a tirade at the tribal council, without incurring the wrath of your fellow contestants!

I am so glad that caryn is gone, I couldnt stand her at all. When she went off on that tirade launching accusations at every single person I was so happy that it was assuring her immediate departure.

Ian should have picked Katie for sure, picking Tom was a bad move.

Good bye Caryn, we're all glad you are gone. She did stay true to herself though. Throughout the show, anything was told to her she would blab it to at least one other person.

I agree about Ian's choice, someone explain to me why he picked Tom "because he won a car." I know they have done it a few times where the person they pick gets a car as well, but it's not a precedent. That made no sense to me whatsoever. Pick Katie, it's what Tom wanted you to do, AND you have a major alliance with her when it gets down to 3.

This is probably one of my favorite episodes as well. The crying part was fascinating to me. When Ian made her laugh at the end and they hugged, and the overall amount of emotion that was shown, I think there is a MUCH deeper relationship there than what we are seeing.

Don't forget people, the finale is this Sunday. Can't wait!

I wouldnt be suprised if these two end up as a couple after the show.

Are they both single?

The "Crying of Ian" seemed like bullshit to me. He was trying to manipulate Katie, and it seemed to work.

I actually have to give credit to Caryn for taking her shot. She was doomed anyway, but I a certainly admire her going to down with both guns blazing, calling out all the lies and bullshit Tom and Ian have been spooning out. I never liked her from the start, but I admire her exit.

Caryn got farther than I thought she ever would, but you'd think she could've used an alliance with Tom to the final three. I guess she was tired of playing. It's funny how the women of Survivor can never stay united enough to vote off all the men.

Well, although the nobility of Ians move touches me, I think he shoulda kept going and kept holding on.

Tom deserved the win, he was extremely dominating all season long and was never in a villain role like Boston Rob was cast.

Wow, Katie looked absolutely horrid at the live show, she looks like she's put on a pile of weight, about 5lb's of makeup and the straightened hair. Ugh. I thought she looked FAR FAR better on the island.

I thought many of the statements and questions to the players were unfair. I wonder if they realize how assholeish they come across when they watch these episodes with their freinds and family.

I really thought this was a great season... until last night. I think that was the worst final episode in all of survivor history. An Ian/Tom matchup final 2 would have been amazing, and the only reason that it didn't go down that way is that we actually find out Tom is a manipulating prick. And what we all already knew that Katie was a manipulating bitch.

I thought the show was called survivor. Ian must have been playing "I'm a nice guy, but I'm going to let people outwit me in to thinking I'm not, then give up to prove to myself that I am." The guy should have just stayed home, then he wouldn't have had to be seen crying on national TV.

Oh, and Katie even getting one vote is a joke, which goes to show you that Coby is crazy. I didn't watch all of the live show, does anyone know what lie he's talking about in regards to Tom?

I was a big fan of Tom to until last nights show, the way he talked down to Ian showed how much of a jerk he actually was. I'll congratulate him anyways though for dominating the show.

So now I wonder if Ian, after watching all these episodes and seeing that Katie was ready to switch alliances twice, would give up quite as easily. Oh and I think if Tom were a true man of his word, he would have still taken Ian to the final 2. Ian just gave Tom the perfect excuse for kicking him off and guaranteeing himself the million dollars.

Most dissapointing episode ever.

Some good sentiment there folks. I liked your summaries. I think Tom deserved to win, especially over Katie. He was a dominant force. I didn't think he was as big a prick as you all might have. I think he just played the game fair.

I am glad that Katie didn't even come close to winning. One thing I noticed though, was that Katie did the exact same thing that Amber did last season. She sat around on her little throne beside king Rob, stayed below the radar, and eventually won. The difference this time around was that Katie was villified for being lazy and useless. I argue that Amber was lazy and useless. She did nothing. The difference was Amber had protection, she let Rob do all the dirty work. Katie was a real bitch and she couldn't even hide it at the final tribal council. She coudn't articulate very well. I thought Toms answer as to why he shouldn't win tonight (Ian's question, I think) was the icing on the cake. It was beautifully prepared.

On a side note, I don't think any of the girls looked better with make up than they did on Palau. Stephanie was so smoking hot all season, and as soon as she got voted off and she got hold of her Maybeline, she covered up all her natural beauty. Mention was already made of how Katie's looks got uglied down once she got back to civilization. Coby did look better and so did Tom without the beards...

now see....I think this was my favorite final episode of them all. I got such a big kick out of Katie being such a bitch when they were asking their final questions.

I think Ian was an idiot, it reminded me of Australia when Colby could have not picked tina an assured himself a win, yet he didnt. Ian making Tom take Katie was absurd but I loved watching it.

I was never a big Tom fan, I wanted stephanie to win but Im sure as hell glad he won over Katie

I'll agree with you on Katie's jury answers. Not that she was going to win, but she really self destructed. The best was her answer to Janu. "I know I'm not going to get your vote, so I won't even answer your question." I kind of think she just didn't know what an adjective was...

I also totally agree about the Colby/Ian comparison. Although I'm still giving Colby the biggest moron in Survivor award.

Man I sure hope Ian got some from Katie (shudder) , because his little "pscho chivalry" bit cost him 1,000,000 smackers.

Each season has the whiney bitch who can't deal with the fact that he wasn't part of the alliance. Coby was the crybaby this season.

Good for Tom, he deserved it more than anyone.

I'm glad Tom won too. I really can't stand it when people coast through the game and end up winning. The year Jenna won make me sick.

You know, I was totally expecting Ian and Katie to end up as a couple off-screen. They seemed to have a real connection that I think was very real, I was suprised it wasnt brought up.

Maybe once the show ended she put on her makeup and he bolted.

I was glad to see Tom win. The dude worked hard for it!

I agree that a final two matchup between Tom and Ian would have been ideal, but I can't deny having enjoyed seeing Katie squirm under the neverending verbal assault she received in the final episode. I hated her from day 1.