Yea, this episode was pretty predictable. I pretty much knew that the gun wasnt loaded, i just didnt know if she would shot jack or marwon, like how chase actually pulled the trigger on jack last season. I guess Jack had to be taken in by the bad guys at one point or another. I wonder what will happen with the sniper situation next week.

I think they altered the trunk. Put a false panel between the truck you could see and the back seat and the guy was wedged in between there. That's what would make sense to me at least.

This season I've learned to ignore the time discrepancies. I have to, otherwise the show is unwatchable.

Most of this season has been painfully predicatable but still entertaining.

Well, stabbing himself is a walk in the park for Jack. He was tortured to death in Season 2 and survived that, so a little knife in the intestines is like a Sunday at the spa in comparison.

I just started watching 24. Yikes, I think I missed a lot. I'm going to go rent season 1 from blockbuster (probably 16 hours+ of the show). When I'm done, can someone fill me in on Seasn 2, 3, and the most part of 4?

possible spoiler? read on:
Spoiler: Who here thinks that the Mom (her name slips my mind,) is actually the mastermind behind all this? My reasons for this are two fold: One, she keeps popping up time and time again and is critical to the storyline. Two, we didn't actually see her get shot. All we saw was her get tossed into a room and then shots fired into that room. Maybe I'm stretching it a little, but I dunno.... ;)

discuss?

cartmen,

Anything's possible :) That would be a nice twist with all the complaints about it being so predictable flying around.

I kinda doubt it, but what do I know ;)

hm, I think we can discuss this sans-spoiler tags, right? unless someone has inside info, I think we're good.

It crossed my mind that Dina might not have been killed. There's the cardinal rule, that if there's no body shown, then there's no body TO show. It would be pretty wicked if she turned out to be the head honcho of all the attacks going on, too. It would help to explain why she went on with Jack's plan, which seemed doomed from the start.

I have a feeling Dina is gonna pull a 'Jack Bauer' and just come to rescue and save to day!

I don't think Dina is the head honcho. If that was the case, her role in the entire first half of this season wouldn't make any sense. Her husband seemed far more involved than she was and Marwan was trying to get him to kill her and Behroos. Not to say that she actually got killed because I wouldn't be surprised if she were still alive, but I doubt she has a bigger role than what we've seen.

Now, what I don't get is why they want to swap Jack for Behroos in the next episode. That does bring up a lot of questions. Maybe Dina plays a bigger role after all...

Damn this show. At least they're not taking a huge break like last season.

grrr.... is that something that they revealed in the preview for next week? i make a point never to watch 'em, 'cause they give stuff like that away.

and if an ad for 24 comes, i change the channel instantly. or cover my ears and start making noises... seriously. :D i'm not the only one who does this.... right?

Well i get so sad that I have to wait a week, I dl the episodes and watch them again :)
hehe

Hell no! My whole fucking house does that. We're obsessed with making sure we know nothing at all going on in the next episode.

Another one who likes to come to each episode fresh. I'm like this about every form of entertainment. I want to know enough to decide whether I'm going to watch / read it, and nothing more.

With 24 and Lost, all I want to know is whether it's a new episode, and when is it on? Beyond that, I want to know nothing until it happens. I studiously avoid commericials. Fortunately, ABC and Fox aren't nearly as bad as NBC when it comes to spoilers in commercials. I remember when Friends was at it's peak and NBC would put every important plot point in every bloody commercial and run them in every bloody show. There was no way to avoid them. Ah, 24 isn't nearly as bad, perhaps because I don't watch much Fox other than this show and The Simpsons.

didn't dina die? she got shot after jack was being taken away because she lied to habib.

thats what it seems like, but you know in 24 things arent always what they seem

ahahahaha :lol:

This is your weekly 24 "Hour To Showtime" Warning!

Another good one last night. I was actually expecting Jack to get shot last night. I would not be at all surprised to see him get killed this season.

From what I understand '24' will not be back for a 5th season, at least not in its current incarrnation, so killing Jack wouldn't be a big stretch.

I love how the "Did Dina really die?" question got answered in like the first 5 minutes :)

I really liked this episode. I really wonder what they are planning to do with that plane...

I'm thinking the plane is going to be used for a suicide run at Airforce One, or otherwise must somehow be connected to what I'm assuming is a set up for an attempt on the President.

I thought they had a contract for 6 seasons, and that there were going to be at least 6 seasons, but I could be wrong

I don't think so, I'm pretty sure he was in some sort of bomber, hes probably gonna blow something up, but you never know with this show... and thats what I love about it :)

From the preview, it seemed like they were gonna use it to blow up CTU, or is that a totally stupid idea? Im probably totally wrong, cuz that seems like a waste just to bomb CTU and wouldnt be that many casualties, as that seems like what they are trying to do.

It doesn't make sense for this super hi-tech plane to be used for a sucide run. At first I thought he was stealing a figher jet to shoot down Air Force 1, but as someone pointed out, it's clearly a bomber.... so it almost has to be a surface target.

Another reason I don't think it is going to be a sucide run is simply cause the pilot does not strike me as a zealot, rather he's just a mercenary. So with that in mind he's probably going to bomb some crowded area just before 6am (when the season ends).

Any guesses as to the target? Silicon Valley, Hollywood Hills, a Dam on a major river maybe?

The plane looked like a Stealth fighter, which has no air-to-air capabilities. Though, it was nicknamed, so I guess it could be a prototype. And since it's quite a risk to land due to the part malfunction, I assume its a suicide run.

Looks like next week they storm the terrorist hideout. Should be a good episode.

I really liked how neither the maintenance guy or his boss noticed that they guy did not belong there.

My guess is that they find the co-ordinates of the target for the stealth on a laptop on that warehouse.... right when they do... BOMBS AWAY!! Michelle and that new head honcho from division die and Tony becomes permanent boss.

OR



Chapelle is still alive and pissed off !!

Nice, I was thinking the same thing, only about President Palmer. Wouldn't it be awesome if it turned out he was the bad guy through all this? <super deep voice>"Force me to resign, will you?!"</deep voice>

I guess the episode was all right... i'm probably just being too critical. But, it just seems like they're going through the motions... Tortured someone again (Behrooz), reused plot device from last season again (the unloaded gun last week, then the hostage exchange from this week looked eerily familiar), forced drama at CTU... I'm just waiting for the show to put me on the edge of my seat again.

About the dude flying the plane... I was trying to figure out what the gist of his plan might be. I agree that he's probably not doing a suicide mission, since they alluded to him getting paid. But at the same time he didn't seem too concerned that the plane wouldn't hold up so good for landing. Maybe he's flying the plane into something and parachuting out?

I dont really like the Michelle dying part but..

Tony is da Pimp!

Has anyone else noticed they use the phrase "I can walk and chew gum at the same time" often? I think it's been used every season now.

And so the Prez is dead. I did care much for this guy. But if Palmer had been in that plane, that would have meant something.

Maybe. It's unclear from the ending exactly what happened. I rewound it, and based on the picture and Zoe's comment, it seems like one of the fighter planes was hit, and Airforce One got indirect damage from that. I deliberately didn't watch the preview, so this is just a guess, but I predict that Airforce One will be damaged and much of next week's episode will be devoted to getting her down safely and determining if the Prez is still alive.

Ya, I felt they weren't too clear on what actually happened. The prez might not be dead. Although I said the same thing about Dina.... hell, who knows, maybe they're both alive.

Also, up until the end, I was really putting my money on that the president would be saved. It was because of his son. It seemed like they introduced him for more of a reason than just to die at the end of the episode. That might have been a ploy by the writers to get me to think that, but... we'll see.

I'd have to agree that it's pretty unlikely that the president is dead. If they really had destoryed AirForce One then there would have been an explicit shot of it going down in flames. In this case it is probably just damaged and as was said earlier, they will spend next hour getting it safely to the ground.

On a seperate note. That has to be the biggest goddamn fighter jet I have ever seen. 24 really went of the rails here trying to pose a bomber as a fighter...BAH I say!

I don't like that president at all, horrible actor, in my opinion, but who knows if he is dead or not, time will tell.

My favorite part of this episode was where Jack stabbed the guy who was comming down the corridor then turned his back to him and was pressing the dead guy up against the wall until he felt it was safe to move on...then he just moves on and the guy slumps to the ground....I just thought it was cool.

I think the prez is dead. They probably introduced his son on the episode to show the human side of the prez and to make you think that he would not be killed. In classic 24 style, WRONG. They're dead.

Another thing, wtf is up with Michelle and that old Division dude??? C'mon. I'll swallow all of the discrepencies that 24 has to offer, but you expect us to believe that someone as hot as Michelle would go for that stiff?? That's just going too far! Next thing you know, Kim will come back and fall in love with Edgar! :lol:

Yeah, it looks that way. But it's a little late to humanize the stiff prez at before his finally moments.

And does Michelle have a thing for dating her bosses :)

Oh hell yea, I thought he was her uncle or something at first. Then they show Tony glaring at him... I thought I (he?) was hallucinating. Apparantly not though... well, maybe she was *so* depressed after leaving Tony, she latched on the first moving thing that came by.

Now I'm not sure what was more disturbing... Michelle and this guy getting it on, or Secretary Heller hitting on Driscoll .... *whorf*

Yeah that was awesome when Bauer knifed the guy and that evil chick who killedthe FBI agent was HOT!!! i think that's one reason why Jack suspected her, he was like "DAYM! That broad is too hot to work in the bureau!"