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FailedEagle · 12-11-2004, 10:00 AM

The trailer is now online.
view it here

alarment13 · 12-11-2004, 10:12 AM

just watched it and.... I don't know about this movie. It looks funny, but not as good or as dark as the original. Gene Wilder is going to be hard to top as Wonka

superiorrain · 12-11-2004, 11:14 AM

Tim Burton, Johnny Depp and a classic story - we have to expect good things. I agree that nothing will be able to compare to the orginal but this looks like it telling the story in a different way. I for one am very likely to go and see this one at the cinema.

TexanAvenger · 12-11-2004, 02:15 PM

I'm really looking forward to it, but I'm cautious about it as well. Something as well-known and loved as Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory has to be redone just as well or people're gonna be up in arms.

Derwood · 12-11-2004, 02:17 PM

I'm glad they are using the book's title, "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory". Never liked the title change for the original movie.

K-Wise · 12-11-2004, 03:29 PM

Didn't Willy Wonka give the factory to the little kid and his grandfather at the end of the first one? Woulda been nice to see a sequel of the kid all grown up and how he's running it rather than a re-make. It still looks at least decent..specially for kiddo's. Depp looks freakish though

Asta!!

Grasshopper Green · 12-11-2004, 05:12 PM

Thanks for posting the link! I've been looking forward to this for awhile now. I have to agree though...Johnny almost looked like a woman. He's a great actor though, I'm interested in seeing how it turns out.

Bacchanal · 12-11-2004, 05:52 PM

I can not wait to see this. From what I've heard, it's more an adaptation of the book than an actual remake of the movie. We'll see, though I cant imagine it wont be wonderful.

skinnymofo · 12-11-2004, 06:01 PM

the trailer seemed almost like a creepy comedy but very promising.
as a side note, did anyone notice the picture of missi pyle on the trailer page? ive never heard of her before but ive got to say, that is one of the damned scariest looking pictures ive ever seen.

K-Wise · 12-11-2004, 06:17 PM

^ She's been in a lot of movies. I'm probably alone in this but when you see her just regular, not making any weird faces n what not I think I'd totally do her

...yeah..(runs away)

Asta!!

blitz.fenix · 12-11-2004, 06:54 PM

Would've been funny if Marilyn Manson could've gotten the part of Wonka :P

TexanAvenger · 12-11-2004, 07:14 PM

Yeah! I heard that he was the original pick somewhere. Man, between the two of 'em, as creepy as Depp is looking in this, he wins hands down. I don't know that I could take Manson screwing with the story.

blitz.fenix · 12-11-2004, 07:36 PM

Yeah but if it were Manson then parents would probably keep their kids from going to see the movie. Because we all know Johny Depp as the lovable Pirate Cap'n.

jonjon42 · 12-11-2004, 07:58 PM

I'm sorry...but Depp looks way too creepy in this role...Gene Wilder defined Wonka...Depp kinda breaks it..

K-Wise · 12-11-2004, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blitz.fenix

Yeah but if it were Manson then parents would probably keep their kids from going to see the movie. Because we all know Johny Depp as the lovable Pirate Cap'n.

I think people remember him as Edward Scissorhands more than they remember him as Cap'n whats his face...see I can't even remember his name...Jack sumfin.

Asta!!

skinnymofo · 12-11-2004, 08:10 PM

depp will always be a drugged out crazy to me
Hunter thompson all the way

inharmony · 12-11-2004, 08:30 PM

Love Tim Burton movie's and Johnny Depp is just a huge bonus. Just saw the previews prior to Ocean's 12 and Depp is definitely creepy looking. I can't wait for it.

pinkie · 12-11-2004, 08:35 PM

Can't wait for this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CityOfAngels · 12-11-2004, 10:40 PM

Did anyone notice how VERY straight Wonka's teeth were in that trailer? Maybe they throw in some side-story that although he owns a chocolate factory, he's addicted to sweets, which resulted in his perfectly crafted teeth.

K-Wise · 12-11-2004, 11:01 PM

^ Haha

Asta!!

Ganguro · 12-12-2004, 07:27 AM

I was terribly interested in this movie before seeing the trailer..
It looks like more poop fro hollywood to me. I'll still watch it just to see what Burton did with a classic story; but I hope they picked the stupidest parts of the movie for the trailers to appeal to a large audience.

Stompy · 12-12-2004, 08:23 AM

1. Johnny Depp - There's very FEW movies that Depp has the starring role that aren't good, but those are pretty much early 90's. Anything after that is either pretty decent (Secret Window) or damn good (Blow, Fear & Loathing, etc)

2. Tim Burton - Someone above said "not as dark as the original", hahaha riiiight. Burton will take the original and make it DARKER. Remember.. Nightmare before Christmas, Edward Scissorhands, Pee-Wee's Big Adventure, and the first two Batman films. All pretty dark/twisted in some way.

This movie should be good. I hated the original. Too cheesy.. all that singing

saut · 12-12-2004, 09:38 AM

Remember people, this is not supposed to be a remake of the movie, it's just another adaptation of the book -- hence the change in title.

mikeylips · 12-12-2004, 10:27 AM

Trailer looks kind of cheesy, but it looks like they wanted it to be that way. Johnny Depp won't do us wrong, I think the movie will be good. Hopefully there is some extra humor for the more mature movie goers kind of like we see in Shrek movies. A little something for everyone would be nice.

alarment13 · 12-12-2004, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stompy

Someone above said "not as dark as the original", hahaha riiiight. Burton will take the original and make it DARKER. Remember.. Nightmare before Christmas, Edward Scissorhands, Pee-Wee's Big Adventure, and the first two Batman films. All pretty dark/twisted in some way.

This movie should be good. I hated the original. Too cheesy.. all that singing

I said that it looked not as dark, and is does not. do you remember the boat ride from the original? that is dark. The who origial movie had a weird kind of weight to it. This remake, it should have never been done. Looks too happy and for little kids. the Casting of Manson would have been better. I like depp, but he looks too nice, very similar to edward scissorhands, from the trailer he does not seem twisted enough. and not everytihing that burton has done was dark and/or good, especially his other remake, the crappy planet of the apes. It was not dark, and pretty much was not very good as well. Actually if we review his last 5 movies you will see his supposed darkness has lighted up some (big fish, Mars attacks, ed wood, and sleepy hollow, along with the apes) I really like big fish and ed wood, but the others were sub par, and most of that bunch not being "dark"

Spektr · 12-12-2004, 04:20 PM

Alright, we've got Tim Burton making it, Johnny Depp as the star and it already sounds like a fucking great movie. BUT! Let's also throw in the fact that Marylin Manson is playing Slugworth...and you've got one movie that I am absolutely stoked about.

Kostya · 12-12-2004, 04:36 PM

Wonka's suit is the bomb...

BuddyHawks · 12-12-2004, 07:44 PM

Depp in those flight goggles was the best thing ive seen all day.

Homey_V · 12-12-2004, 09:17 PM

The first move was Dark? Im sorry, perhaps my childhood memories differ from yours, but I thought the first one was cheesy and kiddy, not dark in the slightest. However, with this one You've got Burton, THE MAN for making movies dark, and Johnny Depp, and amazing actor all around. How can you lose?

tropple · 12-13-2004, 04:17 AM

Personally, I can't wait to see it. IMHO, Depp is a great actor. Have you seen him in "From Hell?" Great movie. I think he's be a great Wonka.

Between Depp and Burton, this is going to be a movie to remember. But not at bedtime. This movie is going to be like viewing an alternate universe. Almost here, but enough different that it's gonna give you the creeps.

shadowalker · 12-13-2004, 03:16 PM

I am in totally agree with most when i say

I CANNOT WAIT TO SEE THIS, In fact i'm going to go watch the orginal right now.

MexicanOnABike · 12-13-2004, 03:55 PM

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/char...olate_factory/
the name is CHARLIE and the chocolate... not willy wonka.

Stompy · 12-14-2004, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spektr

Alright, we've got Tim Burton making it, Johnny Depp as the star and it already sounds like a fucking great movie. BUT! Let's also throw in the fact that Marylin Manson is playing Slugworth...and you've got one movie that I am absolutely stoked about.

Where did you see that Marilyn Manson is in this movie?

Redlemon · 12-14-2004, 11:59 AM

I was checking out the IMDB page, to see if Stompy's question was answered there (it wasn't), and on the trivia page I read:

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Screenwriter John August had never even seen Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory (1971) when asked by Tim Burton to write the script. After finishing the screenplay, he finally watched the 1971 version, only to be surprised at how much darker the "family film" was to his own.

That doesn't inspire me to see this remake. The trailer didn't do much for me either. I don't know why people bother to remake movies that were done correctly the first time around.

Spektr · 12-14-2004, 02:36 PM

Stompy, I heard that Manson would be taking on the role of Slugworth about 6 months ago. I've been following up on the progress of this film since I first heard it was being made. It might be a rumor, it might be true, either way, it's gonna be good.

Nikilidstrom · 12-14-2004, 05:07 PM

I will admit, I have never read the book, so my attachment to the story is strictly from the standpoint of the old movie. And while it is hard to make any decisions based on a teaser trailer with only 1 spoken line in it, I already get a bad feeling about this flic. The look and demeanor of Depp's Wonka just doesn't feel right. Wilder made the original a classic, because he looked and talked (for the most part) like an average joe, but it always fealt like there was a mad genius lurking just beneath the surface, at least until the end when he revealed his true motives to Charlie. I hope for the best for this movie, but as one of the few people I know that absolutely hated Edward Scissorhands, Big Fish, Ed Wood, and Batman 2, I am highly skeptical.

anleja · 12-24-2004, 02:45 PM

I really hope this is a good movie. For anyone who thinks this may not be a dark movie, well, consider that it involves a group of children getting nearly killed. How can it not be dark?

For those who may not know, Roald Dahl wrote a sequel called Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator. I remember enjoying it greatly when I was 9, maybe I'll dig it out and see how time has treated it.

Fremen · 12-24-2004, 03:26 PM

I hope this movie adds something more to the first film's greatness.

I need to check these books out.
I've not read a lot of these classics, but I surely want to.

While we're talking about one of Roald Dahl's literary works, I just saw on the tv while watching the opening credits for the James Bond movie You Only Live Twice, that Dahl wrote the screenplay for the film.
You could've blown me over with a feather.

sinjien · 12-25-2004, 01:12 AM

that trailer kind of freaked me out,...but in a good way. Its definitely a Tim Burton movie. Hope it does well.

hulk · 12-25-2004, 07:16 AM

Hmm, nobody else picked up Danny Elfman is on the music. He always rocks. Hands down.

12-11-2004, 10:00 AM	#1 (permalink)
FailedEagle Crazy	Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory The trailer is now online. view it here __________________ Head over to Nonsense to sign up for the newest round Of the Trivial Racing Image Game. Hurry.

12-11-2004, 11:14 AM	#3 (permalink)
superiorrain Psycho Location: London	Tim Burton, Johnny Depp and a classic story - we have to expect good things. I agree that nothing will be able to compare to the orginal but this looks like it telling the story in a different way. I for one am very likely to go and see this one at the cinema. __________________ "The only way to discover the limits of the possible is to go beyond them into the impossible." - Arthur C. Clarke

12-11-2004, 02:17 PM	#5 (permalink)
Derwood Who You Crappin? Location: Everywhere and Nowhere	I'm glad they are using the book's title, "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory". Never liked the title change for the original movie. __________________ "You can't shoot a country until it becomes a democracy." - Willravel

12-11-2004, 03:29 PM	#6 (permalink)
K-Wise It's All About The Ass!! Location: In a pool of mayonnaise!!	Didn't Willy Wonka give the factory to the little kid and his grandfather at the end of the first one? Woulda been nice to see a sequel of the kid all grown up and how he's running it rather than a re-make. It still looks at least decent..specially for kiddo's. Depp looks freakish though Asta!! __________________ "I love music and it's my parents fault (closing statement)." - Me..quoting myself...from when I said that...On TFP..thats here...Tilted Forum Project *It ain't goodbye, it's see ya later! I'll miss you guys!* - Asta!!

12-11-2004, 06:17 PM	#10 (permalink)
K-Wise It's All About The Ass!! Location: In a pool of mayonnaise!!	^ She's been in a lot of movies. I'm probably alone in this but when you see her just regular, not making any weird faces n what not I think I'd totally do her ...yeah..(runs away) Asta!! __________________ "I love music and it's my parents fault (closing statement)." - Me..quoting myself...from when I said that...On TFP..thats here...Tilted Forum Project *It ain't goodbye, it's see ya later! I'll miss you guys!* - Asta!!

12-11-2004, 10:12 AM	#2 (permalink)
alarment13 Crazy	just watched it and.... I don't know about this movie. It looks funny, but not as good or as dark as the original. Gene Wilder is going to be hard to top as Wonka

12-11-2004, 02:15 PM	#4 (permalink)
TexanAvenger Born-Again New Guy Location: Unfound.	I'm really looking forward to it, but I'm cautious about it as well. Something as well-known and loved as Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory has to be redone just as well or people're gonna be up in arms.

12-11-2004, 05:12 PM	#7 (permalink)
Grasshopper Green ...is a comical chap Location: Where morons reign supreme	Thanks for posting the link! I've been looking forward to this for awhile now. I have to agree though...Johnny almost looked like a woman. He's a great actor though, I'm interested in seeing how it turns out.

12-11-2004, 05:52 PM	#8 (permalink)
Bacchanal Laid back Location: Jayhawkland	I can not wait to see this. From what I've heard, it's more an adaptation of the book than an actual remake of the movie. We'll see, though I cant imagine it wont be wonderful.

12-11-2004, 06:01 PM	#9 (permalink)
skinnymofo Addict ed to smack Location: Seattle	the trailer seemed almost like a creepy comedy but very promising. as a side note, did anyone notice the picture of missi pyle on the trailer page? ive never heard of her before but ive got to say, that is one of the damned scariest looking pictures ive ever seen.

12-11-2004, 06:54 PM	#11 (permalink)
blitz.fenix Insane Location: Toronto	Would've been funny if Marilyn Manson could've gotten the part of Wonka :P

12-11-2004, 07:14 PM	#12 (permalink)
TexanAvenger Born-Again New Guy Location: Unfound.	Yeah! I heard that he was the original pick somewhere. Man, between the two of 'em, as creepy as Depp is looking in this, he wins hands down. I don't know that I could take Manson screwing with the story.

12-11-2004, 07:36 PM	#13 (permalink)
blitz.fenix Insane Location: Toronto	Yeah but if it were Manson then parents would probably keep their kids from going to see the movie. Because we all know Johny Depp as the lovable Pirate Cap'n.

12-11-2004, 07:58 PM	#14 (permalink)
jonjon42 Psycho Location: inside my own mind	I'm sorry...but Depp looks way too creepy in this role...Gene Wilder defined Wonka...Depp kinda breaks it.. __________________ A damn dirty hippie without the dirty part....

12-11-2004, 08:10 PM	#16 (permalink)
skinnymofo Addict ed to smack Location: Seattle	depp will always be a drugged out crazy to me Hunter thompson all the way

12-12-2004, 04:36 PM	#27 (permalink)
Kostya Little known... Location: Brisbane, Australia	Wonka's suit is the bomb...

12-11-2004, 08:30 PM	#17 (permalink)
inharmony Psycho Location: happy place	Love Tim Burton movie's and Johnny Depp is just a huge bonus. Just saw the previews prior to Ocean's 12 and Depp is definitely creepy looking. I can't wait for it. __________________ "You can't shake hands with a clenched fist." Ghandi "Things do not change: We change" Henry David Thoreau

12-11-2004, 08:35 PM	#18 (permalink)
pinkie Helplessly hoping Location: Above the stars	Can't wait for this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

12-11-2004, 11:01 PM	#20 (permalink)
K-Wise It's All About The Ass!! Location: In a pool of mayonnaise!!	^ Haha Asta!! __________________ "I love music and it's my parents fault (closing statement)." - Me..quoting myself...from when I said that...On TFP..thats here...Tilted Forum Project *It ain't goodbye, it's see ya later! I'll miss you guys!* - Asta!!

12-12-2004, 07:27 AM	#21 (permalink)
Ganguro Army of Me	I was terribly interested in this movie before seeing the trailer.. It looks like more poop fro hollywood to me. I'll still watch it just to see what Burton did with a classic story; but I hope they picked the stupidest parts of the movie for the trailers to appeal to a large audience.

12-12-2004, 08:23 AM	#22 (permalink)
Stompy Banned from being Banned Location: Donkey	1. Johnny Depp - There's very FEW movies that Depp has the starring role that aren't good, but those are pretty much early 90's. Anything after that is either pretty decent (Secret Window) or damn good (Blow, Fear & Loathing, etc) 2. Tim Burton - Someone above said "not as dark as the original", hahaha riiiight. Burton will take the original and make it DARKER. Remember.. Nightmare before Christmas, Edward Scissorhands, Pee-Wee's Big Adventure, and the first two Batman films. All pretty dark/twisted in some way. This movie should be good. I hated the original. Too cheesy.. all that singing __________________ I love lamp.

12-12-2004, 09:38 AM	#23 (permalink)
saut Registered User Location: Pittsburgh	Remember people, this is not supposed to be a remake of the movie, it's just another adaptation of the book -- hence the change in title.

12-12-2004, 10:27 AM	#24 (permalink)
mikeylips Crazy	Trailer looks kind of cheesy, but it looks like they wanted it to be that way. Johnny Depp won't do us wrong, I think the movie will be good. Hopefully there is some extra humor for the more mature movie goers kind of like we see in Shrek movies. A little something for everyone would be nice.

12-12-2004, 04:20 PM	#26 (permalink)
Spektr Copacetic Location: Nati	Alright, we've got Tim Burton making it, Johnny Depp as the star and it already sounds like a fucking great movie. BUT! Let's also throw in the fact that Marylin Manson is playing Slugworth...and you've got one movie that I am absolutely stoked about.

12-12-2004, 07:44 PM	#28 (permalink)
BuddyHawks Swashbuckling Location: Iowa...sometimes	Depp in those flight goggles was the best thing ive seen all day. __________________ Watch More TV

12-12-2004, 09:17 PM	#29 (permalink)
Homey_V Psycho Location: Canada	The first move was Dark? Im sorry, perhaps my childhood memories differ from yours, but I thought the first one was cheesy and kiddy, not dark in the slightest. However, with this one You've got Burton, THE MAN for making movies dark, and Johnny Depp, and amazing actor all around. How can you lose? __________________ You did what with a duck?

12-13-2004, 04:17 AM	#30 (permalink)
tropple Junkie	Personally, I can't wait to see it. IMHO, Depp is a great actor. Have you seen him in "From Hell?" Great movie. I think he's be a great Wonka. Between Depp and Burton, this is going to be a movie to remember. But not at bedtime. This movie is going to be like viewing an alternate universe. Almost here, but enough different that it's gonna give you the creeps. __________________ +++++++++++Boom!

12-13-2004, 03:16 PM	#31 (permalink)
shadowalker Psycho Location: Firefox yourself and change the world!	I am in totally agree with most when i say I CANNOT WAIT TO SEE THIS, In fact i'm going to go watch the orginal right now. __________________ I'll make ya famous!

12-13-2004, 03:55 PM	#32 (permalink)
MexicanOnABike Location: up north	http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/char...olate_factory/ the name is CHARLIE and the chocolate... not willy wonka. __________________ - Movie Reviews - Ratings-

12-14-2004, 02:36 PM	#35 (permalink)
Spektr Copacetic Location: Nati	Stompy, I heard that Manson would be taking on the role of Slugworth about 6 months ago. I've been following up on the progress of this film since I first heard it was being made. It might be a rumor, it might be true, either way, it's gonna be good.

12-14-2004, 05:07 PM	#36 (permalink)
Nikilidstrom Stick it in your five hole! Location: Michigan, USA	I will admit, I have never read the book, so my attachment to the story is strictly from the standpoint of the old movie. And while it is hard to make any decisions based on a teaser trailer with only 1 spoken line in it, I already get a bad feeling about this flic. The look and demeanor of Depp's Wonka just doesn't feel right. Wilder made the original a classic, because he looked and talked (for the most part) like an average joe, but it always fealt like there was a mad genius lurking just beneath the surface, at least until the end when he revealed his true motives to Charlie. I hope for the best for this movie, but as one of the few people I know that absolutely hated Edward Scissorhands, Big Fish, Ed Wood, and Batman 2, I am highly skeptical.

12-24-2004, 02:45 PM	#37 (permalink)
anleja disconnected Location: ignoreland	I really hope this is a good movie. For anyone who thinks this may not be a dark movie, well, consider that it involves a group of children getting nearly killed. How can it not be dark? For those who may not know, Roald Dahl wrote a sequel called Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator. I remember enjoying it greatly when I was 9, maybe I'll dig it out and see how time has treated it.

12-24-2004, 03:26 PM	#38 (permalink)
Fremen With a mustache, the cool factor would be too much Location: left side of my couch, East Texas	I hope this movie adds something more to the first film's greatness. I need to check these books out. I've not read a lot of these classics, but I surely want to. While we're talking about one of Roald Dahl's literary works, I just saw on the tv while watching the opening credits for the James Bond movie You Only Live Twice, that Dahl wrote the screenplay for the film. You could've blown me over with a feather. __________________ Google

12-25-2004, 01:12 AM	#39 (permalink)
sinjien Tilted Location: the back of a giant turtle	that trailer kind of freaked me out,...but in a good way. Its definitely a Tim Burton movie. Hope it does well.

12-25-2004, 07:16 AM	#40 (permalink)
hulk C'mon, just blow it. Location: Perth, Australia	Hmm, nobody else picked up Danny Elfman is on the music. He always rocks. Hands down. __________________ "'There's a tendency among the press to attribute the creation of a game to a single person,' says Warren Spector, creator of Thief and Deus Ex." -- From an IGN game review.