Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory
 

The trailer is now online.
view it here

just watched it and.... I don't know about this movie. It looks funny, but not as good or as dark as the original. Gene Wilder is going to be hard to top as Wonka

Tim Burton, Johnny Depp and a classic story - we have to expect good things. I agree that nothing will be able to compare to the orginal but this looks like it telling the story in a different way. I for one am very likely to go and see this one at the cinema.

I'm really looking forward to it, but I'm cautious about it as well. Something as well-known and loved as Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory has to be redone just as well or people're gonna be up in arms.

I'm glad they are using the book's title, "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory". Never liked the title change for the original movie.

Didn't Willy Wonka give the factory to the little kid and his grandfather at the end of the first one? Woulda been nice to see a sequel of the kid all grown up and how he's running it rather than a re-make. It still looks at least decent..specially for kiddo's. Depp looks freakish though

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Thanks for posting the link! I've been looking forward to this for awhile now. I have to agree though...Johnny almost looked like a woman. He's a great actor though, I'm interested in seeing how it turns out.

I can not wait to see this. From what I've heard, it's more an adaptation of the book than an actual remake of the movie. We'll see, though I cant imagine it wont be wonderful.

the trailer seemed almost like a creepy comedy but very promising.
as a side note, did anyone notice the picture of missi pyle on the trailer page? ive never heard of her before but ive got to say, that is one of the damned scariest looking pictures ive ever seen.

^ She's been in a lot of movies. I'm probably alone in this but when you see her just regular, not making any weird faces n what not I think I'd totally do her :rolleyes:...yeah..(runs away)

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Would've been funny if Marilyn Manson could've gotten the part of Wonka :P

Yeah! I heard that he was the original pick somewhere. Man, between the two of 'em, as creepy as Depp is looking in this, he wins hands down. I don't know that I could take Manson screwing with the story.

Yeah but if it were Manson then parents would probably keep their kids from going to see the movie. Because we all know Johny Depp as the lovable Pirate Cap'n.

I'm sorry...but Depp looks way too creepy in this role...Gene Wilder defined Wonka...Depp kinda breaks it..

I think people remember him as Edward Scissorhands more than they remember him as Cap'n whats his face...see I can't even remember his name...Jack sumfin.

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depp will always be a drugged out crazy to me
Hunter thompson all the way

Love Tim Burton movie's and Johnny Depp is just a huge bonus. Just saw the previews prior to Ocean's 12 and Depp is definitely creepy looking. I can't wait for it.

Can't wait for this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

Did anyone notice how VERY straight Wonka's teeth were in that trailer? Maybe they throw in some side-story that although he owns a chocolate factory, he's addicted to sweets, which resulted in his perfectly crafted teeth.

^ Haha

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I was terribly interested in this movie before seeing the trailer..
It looks like more poop fro hollywood to me. I'll still watch it just to see what Burton did with a classic story; but I hope they picked the stupidest parts of the movie for the trailers to appeal to a large audience.

1. Johnny Depp - There's very FEW movies that Depp has the starring role that aren't good, but those are pretty much early 90's. Anything after that is either pretty decent (Secret Window) or damn good (Blow, Fear & Loathing, etc)

2. Tim Burton - Someone above said "not as dark as the original", hahaha riiiight. Burton will take the original and make it DARKER. Remember.. Nightmare before Christmas, Edward Scissorhands, Pee-Wee's Big Adventure, and the first two Batman films. All pretty dark/twisted in some way.

This movie should be good. I hated the original. Too cheesy.. all that singing :rolleyes:

Remember people, this is not supposed to be a remake of the movie, it's just another adaptation of the book -- hence the change in title.

Trailer looks kind of cheesy, but it looks like they wanted it to be that way. Johnny Depp won't do us wrong, I think the movie will be good. Hopefully there is some extra humor for the more mature movie goers kind of like we see in Shrek movies. A little something for everyone would be nice.

I said that it looked not as dark, and is does not. do you remember the boat ride from the original? that is dark. The who origial movie had a weird kind of weight to it. This remake, it should have never been done. Looks too happy and for little kids. the Casting of Manson would have been better. I like depp, but he looks too nice, very similar to edward scissorhands, from the trailer he does not seem twisted enough. and not everytihing that burton has done was dark and/or good, especially his other remake, the crappy planet of the apes. It was not dark, and pretty much was not very good as well. Actually if we review his last 5 movies you will see his supposed darkness has lighted up some (big fish, Mars attacks, ed wood, and sleepy hollow, along with the apes) I really like big fish and ed wood, but the others were sub par, and most of that bunch not being "dark"

Alright, we've got Tim Burton making it, Johnny Depp as the star and it already sounds like a fucking great movie. BUT! Let's also throw in the fact that Marylin Manson is playing Slugworth...and you've got one movie that I am absolutely stoked about.

Wonka's suit is the bomb...

Depp in those flight goggles was the best thing ive seen all day.

The first move was Dark? Im sorry, perhaps my childhood memories differ from yours, but I thought the first one was cheesy and kiddy, not dark in the slightest. However, with this one You've got Burton, THE MAN for making movies dark, and Johnny Depp, and amazing actor all around. How can you lose?

Personally, I can't wait to see it. IMHO, Depp is a great actor. Have you seen him in "From Hell?" Great movie. I think he's be a great Wonka.

Between Depp and Burton, this is going to be a movie to remember. But not at bedtime. This movie is going to be like viewing an alternate universe. Almost here, but enough different that it's gonna give you the creeps.

I am in totally agree with most when i say

I CANNOT WAIT TO SEE THIS, In fact i'm going to go watch the orginal right now.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/char...olate_factory/
the name is CHARLIE and the chocolate... not willy wonka.

Where did you see that Marilyn Manson is in this movie?

I was checking out the IMDB page, to see if Stompy's question was answered there (it wasn't), and on the trivia page I read:
That doesn't inspire me to see this remake. The trailer didn't do much for me either. I don't know why people bother to remake movies that were done correctly the first time around.

Stompy, I heard that Manson would be taking on the role of Slugworth about 6 months ago. I've been following up on the progress of this film since I first heard it was being made. It might be a rumor, it might be true, either way, it's gonna be good.

I will admit, I have never read the book, so my attachment to the story is strictly from the standpoint of the old movie. And while it is hard to make any decisions based on a teaser trailer with only 1 spoken line in it, I already get a bad feeling about this flic. The look and demeanor of Depp's Wonka just doesn't feel right. Wilder made the original a classic, because he looked and talked (for the most part) like an average joe, but it always fealt like there was a mad genius lurking just beneath the surface, at least until the end when he revealed his true motives to Charlie. I hope for the best for this movie, but as one of the few people I know that absolutely hated Edward Scissorhands, Big Fish, Ed Wood, and Batman 2, I am highly skeptical.

I really hope this is a good movie. For anyone who thinks this may not be a dark movie, well, consider that it involves a group of children getting nearly killed. How can it not be dark?

For those who may not know, Roald Dahl wrote a sequel called Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator. I remember enjoying it greatly when I was 9, maybe I'll dig it out and see how time has treated it.

I hope this movie adds something more to the first film's greatness.

I need to check these books out.
I've not read a lot of these classics, but I surely want to.

While we're talking about one of Roald Dahl's literary works, I just saw on the tv while watching the opening credits for the James Bond movie You Only Live Twice, that Dahl wrote the screenplay for the film.
You could've blown me over with a feather.

that trailer kind of freaked me out,...but in a good way. Its definitely a Tim Burton movie. Hope it does well.

Hmm, nobody else picked up Danny Elfman is on the music. He always rocks. Hands down.

Gene Wilder was and excellent Willy Wonka, it is true. Whether or not Depp is a better one is a question of writing, not ability. He certainly has the chops to redefine the role if he wants to. For my money, it looks like he may have cut it closer to the character I see when I read the book, but it is so hard to tell from the trailer. Interesting trailer. Looks like Burton remembered what he did right in Beetlejuice, and ran it together with the brighter scenes from Big Fish (excellent, excellent, excellent, superlative, you must all go run out and buy a copy immediately type of movie).

For me, the test is not going to be Wilder vs Depp, but what they do with the Oompa Loompas. They are what realy kcked the first movie on its head.

As anleja already noted, there is already a book sequel - Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator. I am hoping against hope that this one is good enough that Burton and Depp will make that one too.

You absolutely need to check the books out. In addition to Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, there is a sequel (Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator - Hope they make that if only for the Pernicious Knids), as well as James and the Giant Peach (very dark), Matilda (Excellent movie already done of that one), and my favorite, Mr Fantastic Fox. (As well as a number of others I haven't read, among them The BFG - which I understand stands for Big Friendly Giant, but I always read as Big Fuckin' Guy.)

// short threadjack

You Only Live Twice is awesome. In addition to the Roald Dahl screenplay, and Connery's unmatchable Bond, it is also the source of the misconception that sake should be served hot (old, substandard sake is served hot. The good stuff is served cold.), and it also stars Charles Gray as the MI6 man in Tokyo - the guy with no neck in Rocky Horror, and Burt Kwok as SPECTRE #3 - Cato from the Pink Panther films.

// We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread already in progress.

Hmmm, I'm not so sure about that trailer. Something seems.. wrong? Probably just a feeling... I hope it will stand up to the standards of both the book and the first movie.

This is supposed to eb a gread acid trip. I hoping for the best, and expecting something decent.

I didnt see a single oompa loompa, how dissapointing! :(

I'll skip this movie. I love the original with wilder. Can't Hollywood come up with something new instead of all the remakes?

The first time I watched the trailer I thought "What... the.... fuck????"

I then watched it another 2 times and I have determined that this movie has potential to be fucking awesome. I think it will be dark. Like someone said already the trailer seems goofy and cheesy but I think it was meant to be that way. Grabs your attention. Makes you feel like a child who is excited about going to see Mr. Amazing Willy Wonka at the Chocolate Factory. And to be honest, when I read the books as a little kid before seeing the original movie, I pictured Willy Wonka to be more like what Depp is like that how Gene Wilder was. Gene Wilder was great, don't get me wrong, but not what I imagined.

I grew up in England so I read every Roald Dahl book I could get my hands on. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, The Twits, The BFG, James and the Giant Peach, Matilda, Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator... read them all.

I really liked Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator (the sequel to C&TCF). It tells about how they blast up to outer space in the elevator they get in at the end of the first book and how there's some big space station or something out there. I think it was supposed to be the first space hotel. Anyway, I really hope they make that one next if this version ends up being a great movie.

I just read that Danny Elfman is actually going to sing as the Oompa Loompas. How cool is that?

No. No. No! No more Johnny Depp. No more Tim Burton. Didn't we learn anything from Batman? Burton should not be allowed to do anything that's not animated and/or includes Vincent Price. Since Price is dead . . .

And Johnny Depp, I think, is terrible for this role. Kevin Kline maybe. As far as I'm concerned, Depp and I parted ways after Blow.

I have the terrible feeling that this film is gonna be awful.

But what do I know

the irony ;)
http://www.depponline.com/imgs/fear2.jpg

(okay, that's not fair of me, considering your sig was also used in the book in addition to the movie... and Johnny Depp wasn't in the book. Besides, you said that you parted ways with Depp after Blow, meaning during Fear and Loathing you were still on good terms with him...)

C'mon, you gotta give this movie a chance. It could suck, it could be awesome... sometimes previews are awful indicators of what the movie is really like.

I LOVE Tim Burton and I LOVE Johnny Depp so this is going to be awesome...Johnny Depp hasn't ever done a bad movie...he's an awesome actor...mmm xoxoxo

You know how Johnny Depp used Keith Richards as a muse for "Pirates"?

He's using Marilyn Manson as his muse for this film :)

http://www.marilynmanson.com/news.php?newsid=93

Well, I didn't see a new thread, so I thought I'd move this one to the top. The movie was awesome! seriously... 9.5/10. The Oompa Loompa(s) are great, creepy, entertaining. Johnny Depp was awesome. Just wow... great movie!

Johnny Depp was awsome. He truly is a great character actor. He portration of Willy Wonka was nothing like Gene Wilder. All the kids were good and Christopher Lee played his father which I was shocked to see. :thumbsup:

I have not seen it yet. And got to admit I am torn, I love the original and almost always hate the remake. Not to mention to spend $20 for a movie i am doubting I will like. How can anyone replace gene wilder, especially in a roll that he was awesome in!

But I do like Tim Burton, and Johnny in most of his movies. Probably will wait a few weeks see what my friends say, then consider being dragged to see it.

I saw it and loved it, but you have to go realizing that this is a different look from the Gene Wilder one.

This is darker yes and IMHO slower at the beginning. They try very hard to make Charlie seem very Oliver Twistish and it at times seemed forced.

The story is relatively the same with a few major differences but overall,this movie allows us, the viewer to know more about Willie Wonka, which the first never covered.
It also allows us to know more about the Oompa Loompas and we get to see how Willie met and took them into his charge.

In fact one can argue who truly is in control of the factory, the Oompa Loompas or Willie.

Overall, this was a great movie for all children and children at heart.

One of Depp's best performances ever.

A definate 9.25/10, again the only "bad" part was how slow the beginning was (but it does build up and it's interesting to see how the grandfather fit into it all), the original was slow at the beginning also.

To put it rather succinctly, this movie is crazy enough to amuse the hell out of me. Just as all the Katamari Damacy (PlayStation 2) that preceeded it, it too has a wierd vibe, a vibe of irregularity. The additional background information is nice and the Oopma Loompas are very amusing.

I wanted to say that I have been looking forward to this movie and I was not disappointed. Johnny Depp was too funny. Especially with Mike Teevee. I think that kids were cast well. I was not too keen about the back story of Willy Wonka, but I guess Burton wanted some way to tie everything together. I was very impressed with all the actors. Especially the man who played the Oompa Loompa. I think he had the hardest job of them all.

Side note: Has anyone heard anything about the Corpse Bride also by Burton. I saw the trailor before the movie and can't wait to see it, but haven't heard much about it. It looks a lot like the Nightmare Before Christmas.

You smell like old people.... and soap.

What was that? You really need to stop mumbling, I can't understand a word you are saying.

pretty good movie, but

Gene. Wilder. is. Willie. Wonka. Period.

while Depp played him as crazy as he possibly could, Wilder's potrayal of Wonka reaches another level of insanity/genius which cant be touched just by acting goofy and childlike. Thats what made the original movie so good to me, and a little spooky too.

It's a different movie tho, closer to Roald Dahl's story.

What would have been great is to have had Gene Wilder, instead of Christopher Lee, play Depp's father.

Deep Roy was great as all the Oompa Loompas.

went and saw this yesterday with my mother.
i had heard is was mildly funny.
It almost seemed like a really dark comedy. I thoroughly enjoyed myself , but i gotta admit i kept waiting for things that happened in the original to happen in the new version (mainly the floaty juice room).
Im not one for seeing movies in the theatres, but this, like star wars 3 are just not as amazing on a smaller television.
and the oompa(s)/story was awesome.

I liked it better than the original.

It just feels better. The 70s version never really explained why the fuck this Wonka is so fuckin crazy.

And I always wanted to see Loompaland, or whatever it was called. With all those crazy fuckin creatures. I loved the whole addiction to the cocoa bean thing. Isn't that, um, where you get cocaine? So maybe it wasn't chocolate...

But yeah, much better than the original. This one actually felt more like a kids movie. The other one... creepy. But still good.

Yeah this did do a great job in explaining Wllie's eccentricities.

In all honesty, I'd love to see a sequel/prequel on more of Oompaland and Willie's adventures there.

Oh yeah, you get cocaine from the cocoa leaves not the bean. You grind the leaves into a paste, then dry it out and powder it down...... at least that is what I have always been told. I do know that if you chew the cocoa leaves straight off the plant you get the cocaine high. The natives showed the Spanish conquistadors this trick to give them more energy.

Ya, I felt the same way. Gene Wilder was the shit as Willy Wonka, but the Burton and Depp combo is awsome. Johnny Depp is a very weird Willy Wonka and you just can't keep your eyes off of him throughout the movie. Also, Tim Burtons style is so original. Then you have the music of Danny Elfman which is complex, weird and beautiful. Its worth it, but don't compare it to the original.

I saw this on opening night last week at work - and I was pleasantly surprised by it !

Johnny Depp's performance as willy, displaying his eccentricities better than Gene did, but I think Gene did a better job in his cleverness and sarcasm; Though Johnny's 'quit mumbling' was very sharp.

The decision to include more of Willy's personal life was warranted. Younger, I always wondered about Willy's background and family, and the movie definitely explains most of it. Plus, the fact that Mr. Wonka [the father] bears a resemblence to my boss is a good chuckle :P

There seemed to be a bit of innuendo in the movie, which doesn't bother me, but I'm surprised that the movie didn't get a PG-13.
Spoiler: : In the whipping cream room in the tunnel, there's the cow in bondage, being whipped by oompa-loompas !

I rate it a solid 8/10.

I completely agree. The trailer made me say "wtf?" but I gave the movie a chance, and found it pretty funny. And Danny Elfman did such an awesome job (as expected) with the music, and those Oompa Loompa songs were great.
I might go see it again with my younger brother, he should watch it at least once. :)

the coca and cacao trees are different
cacao (Theobroma cacao L.) being the bringer of chocolate
and
Genus: Erythroxylon
Species: E. coca
being the good working plant turned super villain via refinement

I saw this last night with my 3 year old son. We had a blast! He has been telling me he wants to see it again, which I have no problem with. I'll have to take my daughter next time, as well.

My only complaint was the boat ride, I kept wanting it to be as creepy as in the original movie, and had to tell myself that this isn't a remake. I loved the Oompa Loompas though.

All in all, I'd give it an 8/10. I was impressed, but not too much. I like the first one better, but this one is still wonderful!

Good stuff! We enjoyed it. Wilder kept coming to mind but Depp did a good job for his style.

Interesting thought to have Wilder play the father but for me it would have completely hijacked the movie.

Whoever mentioned Burton should have done Cat in the Hat was dead on. Everything he does looks like Dr Seuss art.

My fiance and I went to see this movie and frankly it left me feeling rather "flat". I note that some here have said that this movie was darker, but I disagree to that. I felt that much of the movie was done lighter and with more of an animated, letsnotscarethekids feel to it and lets give it a really true happy ending feeling. Gene Wilder was hateful at the end of the Original Willy Wonka, and even when he does "come through" you still feel a bit betrayed by him even after he gives the "prize" to Charley. For me, that feeling never really ever left me. Some of this movie made me laugh, but then again I felt that some of it was just totally not necessary and seemed to me to make the movie feel disjointed. Like, learning about how Willy Wonka actually became the eccentric he became and the whole thing about finding the Oompaloompas. For me it didn't make the movie flow. As for Johnny Depp and his performance, I think he was great and a good choice. At one point I leaned over and said to my fiance that I thought Depp looked a bit like Michael Jackson (apparently, I'm not the only one to think he did either). I love the way Depp portrays Willy Wonka in this, clearly eliciting his eccentricities. Overall I'd give this movie 2 stars out of 5. For what it's worth, the kids we took did love it though. Maybe that is all that counts.

I went and saw it the other day. All around, a fairlly solid film.

There were some pacing issues in the middle, right around where Veruca Salt and Mike Teevee disappear, (Amusingly, the original film had pacing issues in the exact same spot as well.)

But other than that rather sluggish spot, definitely a good film. Not better or worse than the original, just...Different.

I liked the show alot. Took some getting used to Depp's character.

But the music rocked! Its amazing that Danny Elfman did the voice work for all of the Oompa Loompa Songs himself and the intro. I picked up the soundtrack asap. I love the different musical stylings between each of the songs.

Cheers!