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wondash 05-20-2003 05:17 AM

Self-Destructing DVDs
 
So we can add these to the other billion AOL cds in our landfills. :rolleyes:
Disney to rent 'self-destructing' DVDs

GSRIDER 05-20-2003 07:42 AM

What a fuckin waste.... as if there isn't enough disposable products out there already

Cynthetiq 05-20-2003 08:21 AM

it's an interesting business model from what I can tell. They can sell a destructable movie for US$5 vs. owning it for US$20. I see it's value to some degree, I'm not sure what arrangement Disney Studios has with Blockbuster, but I can see this cannibalizing some of the rental market.

Ganguro 05-20-2003 08:33 AM

I agree very interesting model.. similar somewhat to the DivX scheme back in the mid 90's. Except you can watch these howevermany times you want in 2 days. I'd do it. Rent/Buy a disc for 5-10 bucks, and if i like it burn it, then chuck it. Though admittedly, it is very wasteful.

fuelmyfire 05-20-2003 11:30 AM

i heard these DVD's are recylcable.

is this not true??

denim 05-20-2003 11:55 AM

All I figure will happen is that people will use them as sources, then burn their own DVDs w/o region coding. This might survive, but I wouldn't invest any money in it.

quest1mark 05-20-2003 01:05 PM

i say open it, burn it. sell for 10. priceless.

apetaster 05-20-2003 03:35 PM

I see this as having about as much market viability as those listerine gel strips. I can't say that I think Mr. Eisner is going to be happy with this decision in about 2 years. DIVX looks like sheer brilliance compared to this. Buy cheaper, burn, pirate. I don't see the upside.

Podmore 05-23-2003 07:44 PM

Please, please people don't buy these things. If no one buys them, they'll die out and they'll kill the idea. If they make money, they'll be here to stay.

crewsor 05-23-2003 07:55 PM

What I don't understand is if they can sell disposables for 5.00, why are permanent ones 20.00. How do they save money by making them self destruct? It would seem that would increase production costs.

Mr.Deflok 05-23-2003 09:40 PM

Awesome, I can buy and rip a DVD and sell it to make shitloads more cash than the distributors!

My god, how dumb can you get! I guess it's not as bad as flavourless chicken.

Gortexfogg 05-24-2003 12:31 AM

The sad thing is, for less than five bucks you can just rent these the old way and rip and burn. Disney needs to live in the future and get out of the Disney vault.

3leggedfrog 05-25-2003 09:29 PM

heres a thought, they probley incoded so people can't burn them.

Mr.Deflok 05-26-2003 12:48 AM

Since when did copy-protection do it's job 100%? ;)

Podmore 05-27-2003 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by crewsor
What I don't understand is if they can sell disposables for 5.00, why are permanent ones 20.00. How do they save money by making them self destruct? It would seem that would increase production costs.
Because it only costs a fraction of that to actually press the disk. It's the movie production costs that they're trying to get back (well, in most cases, they're into profit by the time of the DVD). They believe that if the disks are cheap and self-destruct, they'll sell more units of them, so they'll make more profit in the long run.

This stuff is bad for the consumer. If we don't buy them, they won't keep trying to jam them down our throats.

wondash 05-28-2003 04:37 AM

It only costs pennies to press a DVD and the initial cost of the new technology has long been covered by profits. The only reason DVD's (and CD's) cost so much it because the industry is gouging the consumer. It's a form of price fixing.

Reese 05-28-2003 02:54 PM

Am I the only one that likes this idea? Owning a small video store I think this idea is great if I can get it Wholesale for $1.50 and sell it for $2.50. $5 is way to much for 48 hours though. I can rent it at blockbuster for that and keep it a week.

The thing I like most is the first day sales on them. If we buy 4 of a hit movie, the first day all of them are rented in an hour and the whole day we are turning away customers. We could buy a few hundred of these and 1 regular dvd and when we run out of the disposable just rent the regular and we aren't out as much money.

phyzix525 05-30-2003 06:41 AM

I can see its benifits, but I doubt that Disney is going to let movie rental places have them. Chances are they will set it up where you have to go online to get them cause its so new and "cool"

BlueBongo 05-10-2004 05:36 AM

Hey, they are already on sale in Phoenix... someone should go buy one. Apparently they are in sale at some Cirle K's for $5.99.

Here's the news article about it... I'd probably go to one and buy one just to do it, because I'm a geek like that.
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0510ezd10.html

seretogis 05-10-2004 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wondash
It only costs pennies to press a DVD and the initial cost of the new technology has long been covered by profits. The only reason DVD's (and CD's) cost so much it because the industry is gouging the consumer. It's a form of price fixing.
Don't worry -- just like with CDs, in a few years we're all get $12 back from a class-action lawsuit, and the lawyers will run away with hundreds of thousands of dollars. :rolleyes:

grayman 05-10-2004 08:36 AM

The link to the article is now a 404, but wasn't the main problem with Divx that the way you make money by renting movies is jacking people for late fees. If you don't have late fees, doesn't that eliminate most of your profit?

kutulu 05-10-2004 11:45 AM

I'm so sick of irresponsible environmental practices by these fucking corporations. It's such a blatant waste of materials.

docbungle 05-10-2004 12:06 PM

My company sells them and the've been selling extremely well. The movies that are selected for sale in this disposable format are movies which have already gone through their initial sales run (Pirates of the Carribbean, Under the Tuscan Sun, etc...). Many people are willing to shell out $5.00 so they don't have to worry about late fees or bringing the movie back at all. Once the package is opened, the films only good for 48 hours. But it can sit on the coffee table for up to two years not building up late fees.

I haven't tried to burn one yet, but I'll give it a shot.

docbungle 05-10-2004 12:07 PM

Quote:

I'm so sick of irresponsible environmental practices by these fucking corporations. It's such a blatant waste of materials.
That can be said about almost everything ever made.

kutulu 05-10-2004 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by docbungle
That can be said about almost everything ever made.
Not quite. With most products, the waste is unavoidable. The packaging for all things is absolutely necessary. In the case of the disposable DVDs there are replacements available that will not consume resources. You can rent it (you get a longer viewing period and your waste is shared by everyone who purchases it), go netflix (equivalent to renting), or buy it yourself and keep it forever.

People who buy this product should be drawn and quartered for their lack of respect for the environment. This is just as bad as the disposable tupperware.

Fremen 05-10-2004 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kutulu
You can rent it (you get a longer viewing period and your waste is shared by everyone who purchases it), go netflix (equivalent to renting), or buy it yourself and keep it forever.


According to this thread, it seems that cd's and dvd's are developing some kind of rot in between their layers that insures that they won't last forever, as we had at first thought. :(
http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthr...threadid=54779

guthmund 05-11-2004 10:37 PM

This is the most stupid idea....

We have digressed into a culture so lazy (sorry, convenient...) that we've progressed from going to the video store and getting the movie, to having it mailed to us via netflix or whatever, to being too lazy (I'm sorry, it's convenience...) to return the movie.

I know it's a hassle putting it back in it's stupid little envelope (prepaid, in most cases) and putting it back in your mailbox or, gods forbid, going to Blockbuster in person and returning it, so just throw it in the trash. It's okay, the little DVD fairy picks up all the rotting discs and sends them to Recycle-ville.

I don't see this as having much of a future. I think the on-demand channels is the way of the future concerning DVD. As far as games are concerned, I would think when Internet connections really start picking up speed a way to "download" games right to the console for a limited time would be fantabulous. I mean, if you never want to leave the house that is.


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