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Sage · 11-18-2006, 09:02 AM

I'm going to jump on the Bondwagon here and say that it was a really, super, incredible movie. It could have held up on it's own as an action movie WITHOUT the Bond name- and adding Bond to it made it even better!

And Daniel Craig... to me, he's the way Bond should be- the Bond in the books. Plus, he's quite dashing

Halx · 11-18-2006, 01:11 PM

Got my ticket for tonight! I am so excited!!

Lasereth · 11-18-2006, 06:04 PM

Holy crap. This makes every other Bond movie look like a kid's movie. Screw the people who say Sean Connery is the only good Bond or the best Bond -- Craig is better. This movie is so far above and beyond the regular Bond movies that the rest aren't even comparable.

1. Daniel Craig is amazing as Bond.

2. No CGI and real action scenes = real emotion.

Go see this movie. It's the best Bond movie ever made, and I've seen all but 1 of them (the last one).

mirevolver · 11-18-2006, 07:04 PM

I do have to say that I was pleasently surprised by this movie, because once the plot was set up, they actually stayed reasonably close to the book.

That being said, there was one part that annoyed me, not with the movie, but with the audience.
Spoiler: When Bond says, "The job is done, the bitch is dead." And produced a rather vocal response from the audience. I just wanted to shout at the theater, "Read the damn book!"

Willravel · 11-18-2006, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mirevolver

I do have to say that I was pleasently surprised by this movie, because once the plot was set up, they actually stayed reasonably close to the book.

That being said, there was one part that annoyed me, not with the movie, but with the audience.
Spoiler: When Bond says, "The job is done, the bitch is dead." And produced a rather vocal response from the audience. I just wanted to shout at the theater, "Read the damn book!"

Wait untill they see Spoiler: Felix mangled by a shark if they remake Live and Let Die according to the book. People will be vomiting in the theater. Still, I'm glad someone else is familiar with the literary masterpieces of Ian Fleming.

Charlatan · 11-18-2006, 10:18 PM

Spoiler: Speaking of Felix Leiter... I am glad he is alive again. He has always been one of my favourite minor characters in the series.

Halx · 11-18-2006, 10:26 PM

Just saw it with JustJess, quadro2000, ubertuber, abaya and ktspktsp. I am totally satisfied.

Spoiler: The only thing that caught me off guard was the scenes after Le Chiffre was killed. It was almost surreal. Bond wakes up and all of a sudden his girl is in love with him (I know, I know) and the dude he pegged before suddenly gets hauled off in front of him. Why was he even there to begin with? I was thinking maybe that whole scene was a drug-induced hallucination concocted to get the password. Apparently not.

Willravel · 11-18-2006, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Halx

Just saw it with JustJess, quadro2000, ubertuber, abaya and ktspktsp. I am totally satisfied.

Spoiler: The only thing that caught me off guard was the scenes after Le Chiffre was killed. It was almost surreal. Bond wakes up and all of a sudden his girl is in love with him (I know, I know) and the dude he pegged before suddenly gets hauled off in front of him. Why was he even there to begin with? I was thinking maybe that whole scene was a drug-induced hallucination concocted to get the password. Apparently not.

Read the book. Trust me. I'll Fed Ex you mine. You need to read it to get a full understanding. Leave us say that Spoiler: The organization that employeed Le Chiffre was convinced that Le Chiffre was going to eventually talk to either the Americans or the British, giving up details that would expose said organization. In the book, the organization was SMERSH, the Soviet Union's answer to the CIA. In the original movie (that was never made) it was SPECTER. In this version? We aren't supposed to know yet. All we know is that they are holding Vesper's former lover, they hired Le Chiffre, and they are involved in making money off terror attacks. The next movie will touch on this in depth, I assure you. If you want, I'll send you a copy of the script for Bond 22 as soon as I get it. I should have it in the next 3 months.

I'm very glad that everyone has enjoyed this movie. Don't worry, this thread will have info on Bond 22 as soon as the hype from CR dies down.

James Bond will return....

Charlatan · 11-18-2006, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by willravel

James Bond will return....

I didn't stay for the closing credits was this included? Do we have a name for James Bond 22?

BTW, I would suggest we start a new tread to discuss Bond 22 when the time comes... frankly it can come soon enough.

stevie667 · 11-19-2006, 04:18 AM

Saw the movie on friday night, absoloutly awesome, i'm going to see it again on wednesday.

The best part of the entire film, the last line, then closing credits, chills baby, chills!

Willravel · 11-19-2006, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Charlatan

I didn't stay for the closing credits was this included? Do we have a name for James Bond 22?

No name yet.

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Originally Posted by Charlatan

BTW, I would suggest we start a new tread to discuss Bond 22 when the time comes... frankly it can come soon enough.

You sure? I mean we have like 5 threads for Lost, 26 threads for gun control, and maybe 230 for how incompetent Bush is; it seems like a waste. Doesn't it take up less room on the server if we just have one thread for Bond? Bond 22 won't be out until November of 2008 or even 2009, so the thead won't be buzzing with infor or traffic for a while after the CR hype dies down (I give it about a month or so, then a little again when the DVD comes out next year).

Charlatan · 11-19-2006, 02:26 PM

Maybe you have a point. Let's play it by ear.

Besides the name of this tread is so cool, I'd hate to lose it.

highthief · 11-20-2006, 04:56 AM

I haven't felt this way watching a Bond movie since I was a kid. Really, going back to the begining and reintroducing Bond was a great idea. Daniel Craig is fantastic as Bond - anyone giving this movie a negative review is just doing it to be bitchy.

This was a tough, no-nonsense Bond with excellent action and more characterizaton than seen in most of the previous films. It's a more mature film, that's for sure. The franchise is reborn here.

Jove · 11-20-2006, 03:47 PM

I thought Daniel Craig did an excellent job during the entire film and I liked his reactions during his torture sequence, I would probably lose it after one hit.

kurty[B] · 11-20-2006, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by highthief

I haven't felt this way watching a Bond movie since I was a kid.

This is exactly how I felt. The dialogue between Bond and the female characters is magnificent. The initial sequence of action reminded me of the "special effects" in District B13, or should I say lack there of; just simply raw action. I definitely want to catch this again before it leaves theaters, and it's instantly on my "To Buy" DVD list.

Frosstbyte · 11-20-2006, 11:57 PM

Wow. I think wow pretty much sums it up. I loved the opening scene. I loved the street-running (or whatever that stuff is called) intro to the main plot line.

About my only dislike was how much the movie dragged Spoiler: between climaxes. After Le Chiffre dies, the plot-insofar as the movie is concerned-seems pretty much wrapped up. The only reason I knew something else was supposed to happen is because the movie kept going, which meant something else had to happen, even though there was absolutely nothing in the movie prior to that point that gave me any clue as to where the plot was supposed to be taking me. I would have liked to see some better editing to tie the fallout from the poker game to Vesper's betrayal. My grilfriend and I both squirmed a bit making it through all the honeymoon scenes.

What a great ride, though. Gives me a lot of faith in a series that really looked like it was dying.

Ch'i · 11-21-2006, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Frosstbyte

Spoiler: even though there was absolutely nothing in the movie prior to that point that gave me any clue as to where the plot was supposed to be taking me.

Spoiler: You weren't the least bit curious about the organization behind Le Chiffre, that killed him because they value trust more than money?

Frosstbyte · 11-21-2006, 01:46 AM

Spoiler: Oh, of course I was curious about it, but its scope clearly could not (and was not) handled by the movie's remaining half hour. Perhaps the flow is more apparent in the book which, admittedly, I have not read. We got a glimmer of a glimpse of what was at stake and at work due to her betrayal, but it certainly didn't answer any of my questions or lay any of my curiosities to rest.

biznatch · 11-21-2006, 02:54 AM

I can't wait to go see this..I guess I can't call myself a true Bond fan, seeing as how I didn't know it was already out, but as some previously said, I agree that Goldeneye was one of the best.
And now that I read how amazed all of you were, I'm planning to see this as soon as possible.

magictoy · 11-23-2006, 06:04 PM

Best Bond EVAR! I never could quite wrap myself around Roger Moore's tongue-in-cheek stuff.

Daniel Craig made Sean Connery look like a wimp.

10/10

Lasereth · 11-23-2006, 08:02 PM

Just got done seeing this movie for the second time. It was even BETTER the second time...I love it.

djflish · 11-25-2006, 10:36 AM

I finally went to see it last night and it was great! I didn't notice the time I was in there. All the characters were handled really well, and Craig makes an awesome Bond.
The only real quibble I had was a bit at the end when he says that line from the end of the book. In the book, it's a final, cold dismissal of what had happened before, he's over it, he doesn't care now.
But in the film there's the added bit where M says "she did it for you, blah, blah, blah" and for me that really took away the coldness of his reactions.

And for all those who moan and cringe about the 'honeymoon' scenes, all I can say is read the book.

m0rpheus · 12-13-2006, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by willravel

James Bond will return....

To quote one of my favorite reviews on CR. Finally this feels like a promise and not an obligation.

Willravel · 12-13-2006, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by m0rpheus

To quote one of my favorite reviews on CR. Finally this feels like a promise and not an obligation.

I'm glad to hear that and so much from so many people. James Bond is big again, and all I can say about it is it's about damn time.

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MEDIA RUMOUR
Spoiler: "Daniel Craig’s next Bond outing will be based on the Ian Fleming short story Risico, The Sun can reveal.

Writers are tweaking the plot so it acts as a direct sequel to current smash Casino Royale.

It will see 007 dispatched to Rome to infiltrate a drug ring flooding Britain with heroin. Bond’s enemy in the book is called Columbo.

A source said: “Bosses were so pleased with how well Casino Royale has been received that work has already commenced on Risico at Pinewood Studios. Some of the same characters will crop up again. But one of the main aspects will be to develop Bond’s complex personality.”

Casino Royale director Martin Campbell is due to take the reins again."

Willravel · 03-15-2007, 04:11 PM

Well Amazon dropped the ball on my overnight shipping. I just got the 2 disc widescreen edition of Casino Royale. Turns out, Amazon was swamped with orders!

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Casino Royale Blu-Ray breaks into Amazon #10 list, DVD is #1
In another high-def first, the Blu-ray edition of 'Casino Royale' cracked the top ten on Amazon's DVD top sellers list upon its release Tuesday, peaking late in the evening at #8 - reports HighDefDigest.

Updated hourly, the Amazon list tracks all video disc sales at Amazon, including standard-def DVD, Blu-ray and HD DVD. And while the top of the list is usually dominated by standard-def DVD releases, some early adopters have made sport out of tracking how next-gen releases on both formats stack up in Amazon's overall rankings.

The strong performance for 'Casino Royale' at Amazon would seem to back up predictions that the latest Bond flick would score record-breaking overall first-week sales for a next-gen disc. The current record holder is the Blu-ray edition of 'The Departed,' which is said to have sold a total of 20,000 units in its first week out last month.

Lest anyone misunderstand this news and start sounding the death knell for standard-def DVD, it should be noted that two other editions of 'Casino Royale' (both standard-def DVD) also cracked the top ten yesterday -- the wide screen two-disc version (at #1) and the full screen two-disc version (at #10).

http://www.mi6.co.uk/news/index.php?itemid=4836

snowy · 03-16-2007, 09:38 AM

I just picked it up from the neighborhood supermarket the day it came out. We watched it right away. It's definitely a movie that can stand up to repeat viewings!

And Eva Green is still a gorgeous babe.

yippiekiyeh · 03-28-2007, 08:07 PM

It was a pleasant surprise. I was half expecting it to suck, but it was a good bond reset.

longbough · 03-29-2007, 05:12 PM

I finally watched Casino Royale (in Blu-Ray on my 60" DLP screen) - I will have to say it kicks ass!
I agree this is on par with Sean Connery's Bond.

That being said I have only one big gripe ...

The only really big disappointment is that they changed Baccarat to "Texas Hold 'em." It may be a small issue to some but it smudged the sheen of elegance for me. I suppose this is an attempt to glamorize the game to boost the online gaming business, perhaps.

The game of poker has been filmed more convincingly in countless other films. Casino Royale didn't add anything to that old formula - In fact the portrayal was elementary and contrived to the point of embarrassment.

The use of "the tell" as a plot device is a tired one and has been done better in films like, "House of Games" and "The Cincinnati Kid" in which the game is depicted with more complexity, suspense and authenticity. It's not an entirely trivial issue because the whole plot of Casino Royale revolves around that card game.

Still, it's not enough to destroy the film for this viewer - I loved everything else about the film.

Willravel · 06-22-2007, 08:31 PM

Congratulations and best of luck to Marc Forster, who will be directing the as-yet unnamed Bond 22, expected to start shooting in December and to hopefully be out November 2008. Forster is best known for directing monster's Ball, Finding Neverland and Stranger Than Fiction, leading me to say, "Huh?"

Daniel Craig is, of course, already attached as Bond, as is Dame Judy Dench and Giancarlo Giannini, Mathis from Casino Royale.

Jetée · 06-23-2007, 05:45 AM

Yes, this was my first complete vieing of a James Bond film, and it rocked to the point of no return. Cinematically-Superb and Exceptional, though I can sympathize with longbough about the way the game of poker was portrayed. But other than that minor nuance, the film is extraordinary!

Now, I think the rest of my Bond viewing should go from the most recent movies in the catalogue(i.e. Brosnan Bond) until I end with the original film with Connery. I am off to absorb.....

Nikilidstrom · 06-23-2007, 08:16 AM

In all fairness to Forster, Campbell hadn't really knocked one out of the park yet either, and definitely not before Goldeneye. So hopefully he can continue to expand upon this "new" style of Bond film, and his added visions won't detract from the great ideas introduced in Casino Royale. And hopefully they will keep the same DP from Royale so that the visuals remain consistent.

Willravel · 06-23-2007, 08:47 AM

Forster is an interesting choice, but so was Nolan for Batman. I've hardly given up hope. I'm more interested to see in what direction the story goes. Still, I'm going to go get Stranger Than Fiction to get an idea of this guy's style.

Willravel · 08-27-2007, 08:43 AM

Spoiler:

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Paul Haggis talks more on Bond 22, confirms screenplay is not based on Ian Fleming story

More details about the 22nd James Bond film have surfaced in another interview that writer Paul Haggis gave (this time to Collider.com) on his press junket for his new movie "In the Land of Elah".

In addition to yesterday's reports, Haggis has confirmed that Bond 22 is not based on any Ian Fleming story, but some of his ideas.

Q: Could you talk a little about working on James Bond?

Paul Haggis: I’m on page 22. I’m not writing it today because I’m here, but I was writing it up until 8pm last night. It’s a lot of fun. It’s a whole different set of muscles. It’s something I was really concerned about doing because I liked Casino Royale so much, I had such fun doing it and I thought I could only fail by trying to do it again. But I’m giving it a shot and it’s an original and it’s not based on any book or short story or anything that Ian Fleming had done. Although it is based on Ian Fleming ideas. And it starts right after the last one, two minutes after Casino Royale this movie starts.

Q: Do you think the Broccoli’s might go back to pre-existing material or movies that have been done before?

Paul Haggis: I don’t know, I’d like to. I think it would be great. There have been some terrific books but you’d have to ask them.

Q: The Broccoli’s have gone on record saying they wanted this movie to be funnier after the last one. Is that not true?

Paul Haggis: That’s not true.

Q: Good, cause I liked the last one (the room laughs).

Paul Haggis: They were misquoted I’m sure.

Q: I wanted to know with you writing Bond, do you get a lot of notes or do you have a lot of freedom?

Paul Haggis: Lot of freedom. We work together on the story for a long time then they let me go. Marc is also being very supportive and he’s a wonderful director. I’m really happy working with him.

So Bond 22 picks up 2 minutes after Casino Royale. Good. I was hoping that the next film could just keep building directly onto what Casino Royale gave us.

LoganSnake · 08-27-2007, 10:12 AM

I watched Casino Royale yesterday for the first time and I personally don't think it was the best Bond ever. In fact, I found it to be a bit slow paced. It didn't keep my attention as much as previous Bond films did either. Also, what happened to the gadgets? I'd give it a 7/10.

And before any of you purists jump my bones - no, I've never read the books. I'm comparing it to the other Bond movies, nothing more.

Elphaba · 01-26-2008, 11:16 PM

I only just saw CR this evening. This version of Bond is so superior to the campy Bond's of the past. (I stopped watching them when Moore took the role). I think what everyone is raving about is that it is far more realistic than any of the Bond movies. Bond is flawed, he actually kills people in cold blood, and he isn't the playboy baffoon that mocks 'M' and teases Miss Moneypenny.

I am a fan once again if the franchise continues in this more adult form.

Willravel · 01-26-2008, 11:20 PM

Pen's back in, everyone.

The next Bond movie, Quantum of Solace, will be out in November. Mark your calendar.

Charlatan · 01-27-2008, 05:48 AM

We just rented Casino Royale last night (my wife hadn't seen it yet). It really is a great film...

Elphaba · 01-27-2008, 10:06 PM

I rewatched it the same night to pick up on the nuances. It only got better.

Willravel · 01-27-2008, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Elphaba

I rewatched it the same night to pick up on the nuances. It only got better.

I can't stay mad at you!

I've found that reading the original Ian Fleming novel is amazingly helpful and really makes the movie even better. I'd recommend it to anyone.

Elphaba · 01-27-2008, 10:30 PM

I'm too cute to stay mad at.

I've not read the Ian Fleming novels, but if the movies are now going to be true to them, I will be visiting Amazon soon.

11-18-2006, 09:02 AM	#121 (permalink)
Sage hoarding all the big girl panties since 2005 Location: North side	I'm going to jump on the Bondwagon here and say that it was a really, super, incredible movie. It could have held up on it's own as an action movie WITHOUT the Bond name- and adding Bond to it made it even better! And Daniel Craig... to me, he's the way Bond should be- the Bond in the books. Plus, he's quite dashing __________________ Sage knows our mythic history, King Arthur's and Sir Caradoc's She answers hard acrostics, has a pretty taste for paradox She quotes in elegiacs all the crimes of Heliogabalus In conics she can floor peculiarities parabolous -C'hi

11-18-2006, 01:11 PM	#122 (permalink)
Halx Please touch this. Owner/Admin Location: Manhattan	Got my ticket for tonight! I am so excited!! __________________ You have found this post informative. -The Administrator [Don't Feed The Animals]

11-18-2006, 06:04 PM	#123 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	Holy crap. This makes every other Bond movie look like a kid's movie. Screw the people who say Sean Connery is the only good Bond or the best Bond -- Craig is better. This movie is so far above and beyond the regular Bond movies that the rest aren't even comparable. 1. Daniel Craig is amazing as Bond. 2. No CGI and real action scenes = real emotion. Go see this movie. It's the best Bond movie ever made, and I've seen all but 1 of them (the last one). __________________ "A Darwinian attacks his theory, seeking to find flaws. An ID believer defends his theory, seeking to conceal flaws." -Roger Ebert

11-18-2006, 07:04 PM	#124 (permalink)
mirevolver Inspired by the mind's eye. Location: Between the darkness and the light.	I do have to say that I was pleasently surprised by this movie, because once the plot was set up, they actually stayed reasonably close to the book. That being said, there was one part that annoyed me, not with the movie, but with the audience. Spoiler: When Bond says, "The job is done, the bitch is dead." And produced a rather vocal response from the audience. I just wanted to shout at the theater, "Read the damn book!" __________________ Aside from my great plans to become the future dictator of the moon, I have little interest in political discussions.

11-18-2006, 10:18 PM	#126 (permalink)
Charlatan Getting it. Super Moderator Location: Lion City	Spoiler: Speaking of Felix Leiter... I am glad he is alive again. He has always been one of my favourite minor characters in the series. __________________ "My hands are on fire. Hands are on fire. Ain't got no more time for all you charlatans and liars." - Old Man Luedecke

11-18-2006, 10:26 PM	#127 (permalink)
Halx Please touch this. Owner/Admin Location: Manhattan	Just saw it with JustJess, quadro2000, ubertuber, abaya and ktspktsp. I am totally satisfied. Spoiler: The only thing that caught me off guard was the scenes after Le Chiffre was killed. It was almost surreal. Bond wakes up and all of a sudden his girl is in love with him (I know, I know) and the dude he pegged before suddenly gets hauled off in front of him. Why was he even there to begin with? I was thinking maybe that whole scene was a drug-induced hallucination concocted to get the password. Apparently not. __________________ You have found this post informative. -The Administrator [Don't Feed The Animals]

11-19-2006, 04:18 AM	#130 (permalink)
stevie667 Too Awesome for Aardvarks Location: Angloland	Saw the movie on friday night, absoloutly awesome, i'm going to see it again on wednesday. The best part of the entire film, the last line, then closing credits, chills baby, chills! __________________ Office hours have changed. Please call during office hours for more information.

11-19-2006, 02:26 PM	#132 (permalink)
Charlatan Getting it. Super Moderator Location: Lion City	Maybe you have a point. Let's play it by ear. Besides the name of this tread is so cool, I'd hate to lose it. __________________ "My hands are on fire. Hands are on fire. Ain't got no more time for all you charlatans and liars." - Old Man Luedecke

11-20-2006, 04:56 AM	#133 (permalink)
highthief Junkie Location: Ontario, Canada	I haven't felt this way watching a Bond movie since I was a kid. Really, going back to the begining and reintroducing Bond was a great idea. Daniel Craig is fantastic as Bond - anyone giving this movie a negative review is just doing it to be bitchy. This was a tough, no-nonsense Bond with excellent action and more characterizaton than seen in most of the previous films. It's a more mature film, that's for sure. The franchise is reborn here. __________________ Si vis pacem parabellum.

11-20-2006, 03:47 PM	#134 (permalink)
Jove Groovy Hipster Nerd Location: Michigan	I thought Daniel Craig did an excellent job during the entire film and I liked his reactions during his torture sequence, I would probably lose it after one hit.

11-20-2006, 11:57 PM	#136 (permalink)
Frosstbyte Winter is Coming Location: The North	Wow. I think wow pretty much sums it up. I loved the opening scene. I loved the street-running (or whatever that stuff is called) intro to the main plot line. About my only dislike was how much the movie dragged Spoiler: between climaxes. After Le Chiffre dies, the plot-insofar as the movie is concerned-seems pretty much wrapped up. The only reason I knew something else was supposed to happen is because the movie kept going, which meant something else had to happen, even though there was absolutely nothing in the movie prior to that point that gave me any clue as to where the plot was supposed to be taking me. I would have liked to see some better editing to tie the fallout from the poker game to Vesper's betrayal. My grilfriend and I both squirmed a bit making it through all the honeymoon scenes. What a great ride, though. Gives me a lot of faith in a series that really looked like it was dying.

11-21-2006, 01:46 AM	#138 (permalink)
Frosstbyte Winter is Coming Location: The North	Spoiler: Oh, of course I was curious about it, but its scope clearly could not (and was not) handled by the movie's remaining half hour. Perhaps the flow is more apparent in the book which, admittedly, I have not read. We got a glimmer of a glimpse of what was at stake and at work due to her betrayal, but it certainly didn't answer any of my questions or lay any of my curiosities to rest.

11-21-2006, 02:54 AM	#139 (permalink)
biznatch Junkie Location: France	I can't wait to go see this..I guess I can't call myself a true Bond fan, seeing as how I didn't know it was already out, but as some previously said, I agree that Goldeneye was one of the best. And now that I read how amazed all of you were, I'm planning to see this as soon as possible.

11-23-2006, 06:04 PM	#140 (permalink)
magictoy Crazy	Best Bond EVAR! I never could quite wrap myself around Roger Moore's tongue-in-cheek stuff. Daniel Craig made Sean Connery look like a wimp. 10/10

11-23-2006, 08:02 PM	#141 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	Just got done seeing this movie for the second time. It was even BETTER the second time...I love it. __________________ "A Darwinian attacks his theory, seeking to find flaws. An ID believer defends his theory, seeking to conceal flaws." -Roger Ebert

11-25-2006, 10:36 AM	#142 (permalink)
djflish The Mighty Boosh Location: I mostly come out at night, mostly...	I finally went to see it last night and it was great! I didn't notice the time I was in there. All the characters were handled really well, and Craig makes an awesome Bond. The only real quibble I had was a bit at the end when he says that line from the end of the book. In the book, it's a final, cold dismissal of what had happened before, he's over it, he doesn't care now. But in the film there's the added bit where M says "she did it for you, blah, blah, blah" and for me that really took away the coldness of his reactions. And for all those who moan and cringe about the 'honeymoon' scenes, all I can say is read the book. __________________ Europes two great narcotics, Alcohol and Christianity. I know which one I prefer.

03-16-2007, 09:38 AM	#146 (permalink)
snowy Kick Ass Kunoichi Location: Oregon	I just picked it up from the neighborhood supermarket the day it came out. We watched it right away. It's definitely a movie that can stand up to repeat viewings! And Eva Green is still a gorgeous babe. __________________ If I am not better, at least I am different. --Jean-Jacques Rousseau

03-28-2007, 08:07 PM	#147 (permalink)
yippiekiyeh Upright	It was a pleasant surprise. I was half expecting it to suck, but it was a good bond reset.

03-29-2007, 05:12 PM	#148 (permalink)
longbough Soylent Green is people. Location: Northern California	I finally watched Casino Royale (in Blu-Ray on my 60" DLP screen) - I will have to say it kicks ass! I agree this is on par with Sean Connery's Bond. That being said I have only one big gripe ... The only really big disappointment is that they changed Baccarat to "Texas Hold 'em." It may be a small issue to some but it smudged the sheen of elegance for me. I suppose this is an attempt to glamorize the game to boost the online gaming business, perhaps. The game of poker has been filmed more convincingly in countless other films. Casino Royale didn't add anything to that old formula - In fact the portrayal was elementary and contrived to the point of embarrassment. The use of "the tell" as a plot device is a tired one and has been done better in films like, "House of Games" and "The Cincinnati Kid" in which the game is depicted with more complexity, suspense and authenticity. It's not an entirely trivial issue because the whole plot of Casino Royale revolves around that card game. Still, it's not enough to destroy the film for this viewer - I loved everything else about the film. __________________ "I do believe that, where there is only a choice between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence. Thus when my eldest son asked me what he should have done, had he been present when I was almost fatally assaulted in 1908, whether he should have run away and seen me killed or whether he should have used his physical force which he could and wanted to use, and defended me, I told him that it was his duty to defend me even by using violence." - Mahatma Ghandi Last edited by longbough; 03-29-2007 at 05:16 PM..

06-22-2007, 08:31 PM	#149 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	Congratulations and best of luck to Marc Forster, who will be directing the as-yet unnamed Bond 22, expected to start shooting in December and to hopefully be out November 2008. Forster is best known for directing monster's Ball, Finding Neverland and Stranger Than Fiction, leading me to say, "Huh?" Daniel Craig is, of course, already attached as Bond, as is Dame Judy Dench and Giancarlo Giannini, Mathis from Casino Royale.

06-23-2007, 05:45 AM	#150 (permalink)
Jetée The Reforms Location: Rarely, if ever, here or there, but always in transition	Yes, this was my first complete vieing of a James Bond film, and it rocked to the point of no return. Cinematically-Superb and Exceptional, though I can sympathize with longbough about the way the game of poker was portrayed. But other than that minor nuance, the film is extraordinary! Now, I think the rest of my Bond viewing should go from the most recent movies in the catalogue(i.e. Brosnan Bond) until I end with the original film with Connery. I am off to absorb..... __________________ As human beings, our greatness lies not so much in being able to remake the world (that is the myth of the Atomic Age) as in being able to remake ourselves. —Mohandas K. Gandhi

06-23-2007, 08:16 AM	#151 (permalink)
Nikilidstrom Stick it in your five hole! Location: Michigan, USA	In all fairness to Forster, Campbell hadn't really knocked one out of the park yet either, and definitely not before Goldeneye. So hopefully he can continue to expand upon this "new" style of Bond film, and his added visions won't detract from the great ideas introduced in Casino Royale. And hopefully they will keep the same DP from Royale so that the visuals remain consistent.

06-23-2007, 08:47 AM	#152 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	Forster is an interesting choice, but so was Nolan for Batman. I've hardly given up hope. I'm more interested to see in what direction the story goes. Still, I'm going to go get Stranger Than Fiction to get an idea of this guy's style.

08-27-2007, 10:12 AM	#154 (permalink)
LoganSnake We work alone Location: Cake Town	I watched Casino Royale yesterday for the first time and I personally don't think it was the best Bond ever. In fact, I found it to be a bit slow paced. It didn't keep my attention as much as previous Bond films did either. Also, what happened to the gadgets? I'd give it a 7/10. And before any of you purists jump my bones - no, I've never read the books. I'm comparing it to the other Bond movies, nothing more. __________________ Maturity is knowing you were an idiot in the past. Wisdom is knowing that you'll be an idiot in the future. Common sense is knowing that you should try not to be an idiot now. - J. Jacques

01-26-2008, 11:16 PM	#155 (permalink)
Elphaba Deja Moo Location: Olympic Peninsula, WA	I only just saw CR this evening. This version of Bond is so superior to the campy Bond's of the past. (I stopped watching them when Moore took the role). I think what everyone is raving about is that it is far more realistic than any of the Bond movies. Bond is flawed, he actually kills people in cold blood, and he isn't the playboy baffoon that mocks 'M' and teases Miss Moneypenny. I am a fan once again if the franchise continues in this more adult form. __________________ "You can't ignore politics, no matter how much you'd like to." Molly Ivins - 1944-2007

01-26-2008, 11:20 PM	#156 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	Pen's back in, everyone. The next Bond movie, Quantum of Solace, will be out in November. Mark your calendar.

01-27-2008, 05:48 AM	#157 (permalink)
Charlatan Getting it. Super Moderator Location: Lion City	We just rented Casino Royale last night (my wife hadn't seen it yet). It really is a great film... __________________ "My hands are on fire. Hands are on fire. Ain't got no more time for all you charlatans and liars." - Old Man Luedecke

01-27-2008, 10:06 PM	#158 (permalink)
Elphaba Deja Moo Location: Olympic Peninsula, WA	I rewatched it the same night to pick up on the nuances. It only got better. __________________ "You can't ignore politics, no matter how much you'd like to." Molly Ivins - 1944-2007

01-27-2008, 10:30 PM	#160 (permalink)
Elphaba Deja Moo Location: Olympic Peninsula, WA	I'm too cute to stay mad at. I've not read the Ian Fleming novels, but if the movies are now going to be true to them, I will be visiting Amazon soon. __________________ "You can't ignore politics, no matter how much you'd like to." Molly Ivins - 1944-2007