Ace_O_Spades

That's not what he was saying

He was saying that everyone on MTV right now is fake

Correct me if I'm wrong

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jonjon42

I don't like how Simpson blamed her band...I mean her band picked up on the change rather quickly and started playing the correct song...Simpson just walked off...

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Nimbletoe

So, Alicia Keys doesn't sing live and play the piano AND compose her own music? There are a few on there with some talent and originality. However, if you have to "sing" songs using a track in a live performance where you aren't dancing, and still don't have the presence to push on through a mistake, you have no business on any kind of stage, anywhere, of any kind, singing any kind of music. You say pop has it's own set of rules... do people like watching people fake sing poorly, cookie cutter songs? Seems odd to me.

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toilet_duck

"Her record company, Geffen Records, said there was a computer glitch. Instead of some pretaped electronic percussion, the recording of Pieces of Me started mistakenly performing, the record company said in a statement."

Yeah, sure.

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dobster

Just watched it for the first time. At first I was just embarrased for her whoever she is. Not that funny. Then just watching the band smirking at each other made me piss myself!!

She looks like she's waiting for the director to say "cut!" but then she kind of remembers that its a show with 'LIVE' in the title. Oh... oops...

Camera operator trying to follow her off stage a little bit was also priceless.

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1slOwCD8

I thought that SNL wasnt really live. Isnt it taped on like a tuesday or somthing. I would of thought the record company would have paid them to not air it. O well, still really funny. when i saw it i wasnt really sure what was going on, i thought it was on purpose like when artist do a transition into the next song, but then she did some random dancing and walked off the stage, so i was confused.

Derwood

No, it's completely live. They rehearse from Tuesday through Friday and go live on Saturday.

... do people like watching people fake sing poorly, cookie cutter songs? Seems odd to me.

Apparently hundreds of thousands do, as they buy the albums every time.

The real question is this: is SNL in the same demographic as pop music?

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rockzilla

It's looked like that's what they've been going for since last season. Didn't Jessica Simpson and what's his face host last season?

quadro2000

One of my favorite pop-culture blogs, Stereogum, has this to say in its comment section (two different posts):

and...
I can't vouch for the veracity of these comments but they sound pretty spot-on to me.

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darkness1162

Ashlee Simpson is yet another example of the current state of pop music- doesn't matter if you can sing, it matters what your image is. In this case, the sister of Jessica Simpson gets annoying songs hitting #1 on the charts.

meanSpleen

As derwood (and others) have explained previously in this thread, Ashlee Simpson cannot sing. While I can aggree that there are times an artist/band can and should do a song completely unassisted by recordings, SNL just isn't the place to do it. What is expected is a near-single quality performance that registers with each of the #### people watching the show and hopefully having them go out and supporting that artist. Of course, this isn't the case with most bands, even on SNL. Since Ashlee just isn't capable of churning out a respectible, or even average performance (re: Mediocre) the decision was made to "help" her out. Thus the vocal recording playback.

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Fremen

Hmm, maybe it was down for a while.
It seems to work fine now. At least for me.

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Works for me now, too!

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SteelGlider

I'm pretty sure Ashlee's mic was off too. That's probably why she figured the best thing to do was just walk off in embarrassment/disgust. I missed her first song of the show, but I've heard that it was pretty easy to tell she was lip-synching that one too.

Ace_O_Spades

Then don't try to pass yourself off as an artist. Simple as that. It makes a mockery of the profession and people who are creative and talented enough to not need these shenanigans.

I guess there's a reason I don't listen to any music recorded in the past 15 years

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read: POP music in the past 15 years...

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Willravel

So I guess Ashlee Simpson didn't have a tv show on MTV where she made her national debut. I guess it wasn't that show that boosted her career from local and associated with her sister to internationally known and loved. I guess it wasn't MTV that got her on SNL. Comon. Be serious.

Willravel

To defend my defendor...
Alecia Keys sings her own songs...usually. She plays the piano....at the same level as those who have had lessons for a few years. She writes her songs....with some help. I agree that Alecia Keys has a fantastic voice...so does Christina Agulera... so does Ashlee Simpson. People as a rule don't know what musical talent is anymore. At least on MTV. Deal with it and move on.

Who told you Alecia Keys composed her own music?

K-Wise

Ahahaha thats hilarious. I love how the band were smirking at each other. That ws hilarious. Thats why these fuckers shouldn't use stupid fucking dubbed voice tracks when they go live. I don't care if you have to dance or any of that bullshit. They never did that 30-40 years ago. Chuck Berry danced around the stage like a bastard with his guitar and still sung the shit out of his songs. Little Richard and Jerry Lee Lewis pounded the shit outta their pianos and sung their asses off at the same time. Whats the difference? They had talent. All these stupid dancers and pyrotechnics are there just to distract you from the fact that these performers really have nothing to offer. They can't sing and they can't dance unless someone makes up a dance for them and they have 10 to 30 guys backing them up. No TALENT! To say they have any is bullshit. Do you honestly think anyone over the age of MAYBE 13 would actually bother to go to a Britney Spears concert if she wasn't half naked through most of her songs or have 35 dancers on the stage at one time, or fireworks shooting everywhere and all that shit? No of course they wouldn't. If she just went up there and sung her stupid songs it would be the most boring show ever. Christina Aguilera has a band and she sits on a stool and sings her guts out and people eat the shit up. Cause for the most part...I have to give it to her...she actually has SOME talent if not a whole lot. Avril Lavigne e'll just have 2 stools, 2 mics, while she plays guitar and has someone accompany her on another one and people actually want to stay. I have to give credit where credits due even if I don't necessarily care for their music.

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trickyy

band seemed to know that the show must go on...guess her 3 month crash course in music stardom didn't teach that to her

that stereogum site was interesting. also posted:
next performance: radio music awards on NBC 10/25/04 at 9 pm
if she goes through with it, who will we hear?

dobster

http://www.ashleesimpsonmusic.com/

Follow the link to the News section, then october, next 5, scroll down to SNL reference, then click comments. Haven't read it all yet. should be pretty interesting.

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dobster

Ha!! You gotta read this, bless her...

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Booboo

While I think she has no talent whatsoever... also keep in mind that all these pop stars arent dancing around in the studio while they are recording their CD's. If you saw Britney live without the syncing you would just hear her gulping for breath in between lyrics. Its a Performance, its entertainment, its not about musical abilities in these cases. And really, I never see Britney or any others in the pop genre trying to play it off as Musical talent(except for ashley =P ). Shes there to make all the teenage girls happy, spending their parents money, on a waste of a CD.

And Look good doing it... :

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Bill O'Rights

Dammit! I changed channels just after Jude Law introduced her second number, so I missed it. What a time to channel surf.
Saw the clip, though. How pathetic was that?

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Dane Bramage

I like the looks on the band members faces after she left the stage... the just kept playing with this silly little smirk on their faces like "Ha! We finally got rid of the bitch... nows our time to shine..."

I wonder when everyone else will realize what kind of crap these poop artists put out? I keep waiting for the whole shit pile to come falling down... when oh when will it happen?

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Averett

Not nearly as pathetic as going to sleep at 9:30 on a Saturday night

I win!

And well.. is anyone really shocked that this happened? (not me going to sleep that early, but the Asslee thing)

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renaldorick

so funny. What a joke. Just shows how manufactured and fake the pop world is. Good for a laugh

powerclown

If this means less Ashlee from now on, and more Jessica, then all is right in the world once again.

grendel

less of both would make the world a little better, if you ask me.

crossova

its pretty pathetic...she could have just had them cut the track and then have her go ahead and play the correct song...oh well, its not like she was going to be a superstar or popular like her sister.

maybe in their reality it was on MTV or in their mind it still is 1984...

kutulu

Throughout modern music there have been hundreds of musicians that run/dance/headbang their asses off and they don't gulp for breath in between lyrics. That's a copout.

Same thing. She can "sing" all she wants but if she sounds like shit, they crank up the tape track and turn down the real vocals. It's a ripoff for the fans.


A band with real talent can fix their mistakes. My friend had a Metallica cd single that included a live version of "Harvester of Sorrow." After the solo, the band totally fucked up, half playing one song and the other half playing the right song. They didn't stop or do anything. They continued playing and got in sync at the start of the next bar of music. Within a couple seconds they were all in sync playing the right parts.

Instead of walking off the stage and blaming everyone else like some spoiled little bitch, they owned up to their mistake and released it as a B-Side to a single cause they thought it was funny.

JumpinJesus

I have no sympathy for her. My initial thought was that maybe, just maybe, SNL has a culture jammer working for them who deliberately started the wrong tape, just to expose her for the fraud she is.

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Wow, that was uncomfortable just to watch!

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whocarz

I wonder when people who hate pop music (as I do), will just move on and stop giving a fuck about whether these people become rich and famous or not. It's rather petty to wish failure upon someone when it has zero effect on you.

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meanSpleen

Pop music in the past 15 years includes pure-pop, rap, r&b, rock (all forms) and others. To say that only Pure-Pop is failing to produce talented artists is a lie. Tell all the manufactered bands that are warped by their record labels and release half-ass albums that are marketed and sold solely to make money. Its not uncommon for a band/artist to give up thier individuality and own talent just to conform to whatever their a&r rep wants them to be.

Anyone and everyone in the music business gives up a piece of themselves as soon as they sign to a label (indie and major). Its just a matter of how much they give up.

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coash

And, for additional funniness...

LM: What are your takes on lip-synching?
AS: I'm totally against it and offended by it. I'm going out to let my real talent show, not to just stand there and dance around. Personally, I'd never lip-synch. It's just not me.


And her apology:
http://www.askross.com/Ashlee.avi

coash

ahah the ashlee dance
http://mtpdist.com/ashleydance/

wondash

In past interviews, she has stated that she's <i>"totally against"</i> lip-syncing and is <i>"offended by it."</i> Here's her exact quote from an article in Lucky magazine: <i>"I'm going to let my real talent show. Personally, I'd never lip-sync. It's just not me."</i> So the question is, is lip-syncing the same as singing over a vocal backtrack? Here's the definition of lip-syncing from Dictionary.com: To move the lips in synchronization with recorded speech or song. You make the call

FatherTed

James T has got it right. This show used to be groundbreaking, now it is mainstream. Sad.

Unright

Uh.. That quote has been posted in this thread like 3 times allready. Thank you, we've seen it.

Derwood

now her dad is blaming it all on acid reflux. Yeah, I'd have an upset stomach too if I knew that my older sister was hotter, richer and more talented than me and always would be. Sorry Ashlee, guess you're going to have to settle for being smarter. See where that gets you.

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