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R3d 08-12-2004 09:32 PM

Alien vs Predator!!
 
anyone pumped up to see this movie?..

i seriously get giddy as a school girl when i see previews for it lol.. looks amazing..

Halx 08-12-2004 10:00 PM

...are you joking or something?

This looks like a steaming pile of crap. I hope it fails so that nobody will ever attempt anything close.

ChrisJericho 08-12-2004 10:17 PM

I'll probably bit-torrent it.

whocarz 08-12-2004 10:22 PM

It will be good to go and lampoon with some friends.

k1ng 08-12-2004 10:24 PM

I saw it tonight at a free screening thing.

I have mixed feelings,
but here's my rant on it.

Spoiler: I'd been waiting for this movie ever since I saw the alien skull trophy in Predator 2. I knew before even going in tonight that the tagline would probably be too true, 'Whoever wins, we (the audience) lose.' My main complaints are the contradictions to the earlier films. The timespan/life cycle of the eggs to face huggers to impregnation to ejection to full aliens seemed to take 15minutes not a few days like in the earlier alien movies. The old explanation of the predators coming to earth in the hottest summers contradicts with them coming to one of the coldest places on earth. I would have preferred a slower paced more horror oriented movie, or at least a decent action flick. I realized that I would have to suspend my disbelief while watching this but it just takes me out of the moment when common sense inaccuracies are screaming out at me throughout the movie. How are the trained fellas packing the big guns going to be the first to die? And I can’t remember seeing anyone's steamy breath while being in an underground ice cave in Antarctica.
Were we even supposed to believe it was cold? Furthermore it doesn’t make sense why a predator wouldn’t just kill some woman to get its gun back. I guess this predator just had a heart of gold or something. And the predator king or whatever at the end just left the chick a spear as a reward for all her hard work. I mean, she's alone, wearing a t-shirt, and she just saved the day, and he doesn’t give her a ride or anything, not even a blanket. I guess he just expected her to stab herself in the face with it to end the pain of freezing to death. And another thing, the two pleasure giving moments I hoped would be in the movie were not. I was hoping the "sequel guaranteeing" ending with the 'predatalien' would have been one of the main features of the film, not some just some gimmick to setup another summer blockbuster. Another point I wanted to see was a skinned alien or two hanging upside-down in the pyramid dripping with green acid, reminiscent of the bloody soldiers found in the first predator movie. If they just would have shown a glimpse of that, it would have done it for me, I would have been satisfied. But despite all these complaints, I actually, overall, enjoyed the movie, but I think it should have been much better.

Mr.Deflok 08-12-2004 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ChrisJericho
I'll probably bit-torrent it.
Paul WS Anderson directed this shit, your way is the only way to watch it.

The action figures however, are fucking bad ass.

sadistikdreams 08-13-2004 12:25 AM

Meh.
First off, I hate it when people call something shit without evidence to back it up.
(Sorry, but I've had way too much experience with this annoyance)

I think it looks good. I mean, sure, everyone had their own imagination of what a fight between an Alien and a Predator would look like. Well, like how you tell us your reviews of movies, this is Paul Anderson's imagination of it. I respect your opinions, I respect that this man has made is movie how he liked it. If I agree with his imagination, then I hope you'll respect that.
/rant
It does look like a cheesy movie, though.

bigbad 08-13-2004 12:54 AM

Even though it looks like it could be a real bomb I'm looking forward to seeing it in the hopes that it's not as bad as it seems. I've been waiting too long for this movie not to see it, even if it is as bad as something like Catwoman.

K-Wise 08-13-2004 01:02 AM

Ditto but my biggest prob is

<font size=7>PG-13 W T F were they thinking?!!</font>

You ain't gonna see someones spine ripped out of their back in a fuckin PG-13 movie nor acid spit melting through ones torso either. Dammit that pisses me off. And yeah Halx I'm DEAD serious about this. Don't care if yer opinion of me lessens either ;) I've been waiting for this movie to come around for 14 years. Ever since Predator 2 came out in 1990 and you see an alien skull in the Predators mothership and I thought to myself...."How FUCKIN SWEET would that be to see them fight it out?!" Then the video games (which kicked major ass) and the comics (also kicked major ass) came out.

Asta!!

KellyC 08-13-2004 01:09 AM

I thought it'd be cool to see Aliens and Predator duke it out, like Fredy and Jason.

Halx 08-13-2004 01:35 AM

I can still respect someone who finds entertainment in these movies. Maybe it's the way they've marketed it that makes me wary. It just seems so formulaic to me. People may bite at me for bashing without having seen it, but speaking for all the critics out there who condemn the movie before they've seen it, I don't wanna be the one to take it for the team.

docbungle 08-13-2004 02:28 AM

As a huge fan of both originals, I think this looks like a pile of crap. I will probably still see it. Hopefully I can get in for free. I am expecting entertainment on a strictly "Freddy vs Jason" level.

jay-g 08-13-2004 02:56 AM

:)

wondash 08-13-2004 04:35 AM

I find that my expectations play a large role in how well I like a movie, particularly in the Action/Sci-fi/Comic genre. For example, I had no expectations for the 1st Matrix movie and was blown away. For the second and third, I went with very high expectations and was disappointed both times. For AvP, I'll go in with VERY LOW expectations!

Kadath 08-13-2004 05:19 AM

Looks pretty bad. Agreed on the PG-13 thing -- they were thinking to get more money by getting teenagers in. I doubt I'll ever see it, despite being a fan of Alien 1-3 and Predator 1.

Stompy 08-13-2004 06:22 AM

I liked Freddy vs Jason!

I mean, not in the sense of, "Damn, this is quality cinema.." but more or less a good time. I took it for what it was worth, but I've been a fan of Freddy/Jason since I can remember.

AvP... the movies were awesome, but the PG-13 rating is a strict indication of how good it will be. Alien/Predator weren't PG-13, this movie shouldn't be either. There will be an extreme lack of gore, which is what made the A/P movies so great... that and the horror/suspense. You can just TELL it won't be here... not with PG-13. Impossible.

I mean, it might be slightly entertaining, but it certainly won't be what many consider a GOOD movie.

Sargeman 08-13-2004 06:54 AM

I'm looking forward to seeing it as a good popcorn flick where I can escape reality and watch some fantasty sci-fi. I've always wondered how cool it could be to mix two bad guys or two good guys in the same movie.

I enjoyed Freddy vs Jason but then again I didn't go in expecting oscar caliber material. Got to see some skin, some blood, and two of my favorite baddies duking it out. Now we get to see two more popular baddies duking it out, what more could one ask for in a summer special effects popcorn movie?

choskins 08-13-2004 09:37 AM

I must say I can't wait. I will probably be disappointed, but I am draggin the wife in regardless.

repeater 08-13-2004 11:04 AM

I agree with Halx. It looks terrible. I haven't seen it, and I don't want to. If it's free, sure. There are just to many other things I'd rather spend money on than this. Don't they find an Aztec like temple in Antarctica or something? It just sounds lame. Maybe i'll be surprised though.

It just better not have some cheap out ending where the humans end up winning. I want the humans to all die for a change.

sadistikdreams 08-13-2004 11:26 AM

To those who've seen it:
Spoiler: Is it true that the last predator kills the last alien with the help of the girl (Lex?), but then the predator dies, so the humans really win?

cartmen34 08-13-2004 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by choskins
I must say I can't wait. I will probably be disappointed, but I am draggin the wife in regardless.
I'm getting the same feeling... I can't wait, but I'll probably be disapointed as well.


'cept I'm not dragging my wife in....she's seeing Princess Diaries 2 in another theatre. //shudders

asudevil83 08-13-2004 03:06 PM

the instant i heard that it was PG-13 i KNEW that they werent out to make a good movie. they were hoping to capitalize on their spending costs in the first few weeks to make some money.....thats it.

a real AvsP movie would be fucking cool. something rated R, something that actually showed people getting killed, something that had swearing, something where everyone dies a violent death (ie every other Alien and Predator movie.) i am severely dissappointed in the directing direction that was taken.

sadly though, as shitty as this movie is supposed to be......i'm still going to find myself going to see it. the whole AvsP thing has been so anticipated by me its not even funny. but i'm not spending $9 to see it......but more like $3.50 at the driveins

Redjake 08-13-2004 04:14 PM

a lot of people don't even realize that there is a huge fan base for this movie because the Alien vs. Predator 2 computer game was one of the best first person shooters ever made :) A lot of people are like "WHY are people excited about this crap??"

It's because of the computer game guys

Stunt_101 08-13-2004 06:54 PM

i saw it today and the special effects were cool but the meaning was gay as hell i thought it was gonna be like a big ass war or some shit but they only send 3 dinky predators......stupid

Grondar 08-13-2004 07:23 PM

sadistikdreams: No, that isn't how it ends.

K-Wise 08-14-2004 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Halx
I can still respect someone who finds entertainment in these movies. Maybe it's the way they've marketed it that makes me wary. It just seems so formulaic to me. People may bite at me for bashing without having seen it, but speaking for all the critics out there who condemn the movie before they've seen it, I don't wanna be the one to take it for the team.
Ah yer entitled.....plus that actually makes sense what you just said there. I'm seeing it tommorow with mixed feelins of slightly low expections battled by the anxiety of waiting 14 years for them to finally fuckin think of doing this....hopefully if this one is lacking and makes enough money they'll be a sequel thats rated R with 500 Predators slaying 2000 Aliens in an all out slug fest and then Arnold flies over in a stolen spaceship and Nukes em all to hell or something.

Asta!!

omega2K4 08-14-2004 04:46 AM

Isn't it directed by the same guy who directed the shitty movie Resident Evil? That's reason enough to NOT go see this movie.

Ryan 08-14-2004 08:52 AM

Say this movie last night with some buddies, the movie as a whole was entertaining for me and my friends. However, we thought it was a tad bit to short.

Did anyone else think the Predators were kind of toned down, I mean where the hell are their sweet ass cannons and shit?

and... Spoiler: When the last one plants his bomb and like runs away, what a pansy. Isnt that against like Predator code or something haha...

pan6467 08-14-2004 10:47 AM

PG-13 isn't a death nail. I'm sure they are thinking a lot of kids wanted to see this movie and rightfully so.

Also, as for marketing, they'll make a bundle in the theatres then when the DVD comes out with the "deleted scenes" (they had to cut to get a PG-13 rating instead of an "R"), they'll come close to doubling that take.

Personally, I think it has a great potential, but from the previews and the reviews I've read it sounds like they lacked the imagination to create a truly good classic movie, and just went for the name and franchise value. Which is idiotic because as seen with the last couple Star Treks and Bond movies, you can destroy a very profitable franchise fast by not giving it the creativity and quality the fans deserve.

CrazySaturn 08-14-2004 04:42 PM

D'oh, sorry, but how do you high light your text white to blank out spoilers?

Redjake 08-14-2004 05:31 PM

crazysaturn, do this without the asterisk:

[*spoiler]type your spoiler in the middle here[/spoiler]

Spoiler: tada

Keedo 08-14-2004 06:35 PM

It was ok, not great. The idea had alot of potential that never really seemed realized. They could have really have done more.

Fire 08-14-2004 08:02 PM

I realy enjoyed this movie, despite severe misgivings due to the rating- the plot made sense, and any contradictions can be easily explained- especialy if one takes into account the comics and other assorted stuff they drew from- overall it was neat, and the rating did not detract from the suspense and jump outa your seatness of the film- ps- who caught the subtle bishop homage?

CrazySaturn 08-14-2004 08:05 PM

Thanks Red!

Spoiler: Just to address some of the complaints and make some new ones:

K1ng: The guys with guns die first, since their enemy is invisible and they have no idea what the hell they're fighting in the first place. Plus the body armor of the predators protects them from most small arms fire. As for the Pred taking on the chick, he had already completed his end of the deal, and honored the chick for killing an alien as well. The skinning of aliens wouldn't work, since their acid would prevent any skinning as it would be too dangerous.

Stunt: They didn't really send the Predators, the Preds choose that to show that they are mature. Also, the Predator "code" only allows 3 to go at a time, hence only 3 cannons.

Ryan: The cannon's are basically prizes that they get once they reach that point.

As for my complaints, the predalien at the end popping out was just cheesy. Also, the Predator's seemed way too out of it, i.e. not noticing Aliens sneaking up right behind them. Also, the amount of guns owned by the team is just plain rediculous. Other than that, I thought it was a really fun movie!

K-Wise 08-14-2004 11:18 PM

Just saw it....I thought it kicked ass. I'll argue with you guys about it later though haha.

Spoiler: Ya mamma!

haHA! Cool it worked!

Asta!!

Seer666 08-14-2004 11:49 PM

Just got done watching it. Without giving anything away, it was quick, violent, and if you are looking for a heavy plot don't bother. This movie is total fan service, and I loved every minute of it. The action was great, the preditors and aleins looked really good, and the acting was no bad. Not great, but not bad. It's a good summer-put-your-brain-in-your-pocket-movie.
I really hope they make another.

Kadath 08-15-2004 06:50 PM

That was even worse than I thought. My buddy wanted to see it, and though I told him it was going to suck, we went. He apologized afterwards.
Spoiler: The death of the black team leader in EXACTLY the same fashion as he bought it in RE was not good(Paul Anderson is lazy). The super-fast spawning aliens were obnoxious. The human eyes on the predator, dumb. The fact that the heroine would freeze to death after the predators left, hilarious. The ending, obvious and lame. Many other issues I won't bother to go into. The worst movie I've seen since Underworld.

punx1325 08-15-2004 07:13 PM

If you find a reason to complain about something you will. I went to see it to be entertained, not impressed. Of course I wasn't impressed, but I was entertained.

brandon11983 08-15-2004 07:47 PM

I saw it with my mom and sister last night. I would say I was pleased with the movie overall. The "predalien" at the end was kinda wack. Why did the alien come out of the predator as a "hybrid?" It was a very "Freddy vs. Jason" type ending, where the question of "well who won" isn't really answered. I liked how it ended, and hope they make another.

gorilla 08-15-2004 07:47 PM

I'll probably see it, but im expecting it to be like Freddy vs. Jason...


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