07-01-2004, 10:14 AM | #4 (permalink) |
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Everybody I've talked to said they really enjoyed it. I was planning on waiting for the DVD like I did with Bowling for Columbine, but I think I might take some time to see this one in the theatres.
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07-01-2004, 11:11 AM | #6 (permalink) |
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Excellent movie, saw it last night, brings up a lot of issues.
Watch this movie!
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07-01-2004, 11:12 AM | #7 (permalink) |
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Has some funny moments and brings about a ton of questions about the Bush administration.
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07-01-2004, 01:35 PM | #8 (permalink) |
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Gonna pass on this one after seeing BFC. I'm sure it's great entertainment and all, but I'm not gonna line his pockets for producing something so biased and labeling it as a documentary.
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07-01-2004, 02:35 PM | #9 (permalink) |
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My wife and I saw it last weekend and we thought it was fucking brilliant. It did have its funny parts which all MM films do, but all the research and time that he put into this movie is amazing. He gives his opinion on Bush and the administration, but he really leaves the choice to believe him or not up to the person watching the movie. We felt it was scary, shocking and well just plain o'l fucked up that our government is this fucked up. I highly recommend all people to go see it and make the choice yourself if we have been lied to over the last 4 years.
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07-01-2004, 05:12 PM | #10 (permalink) |
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Saw it. While I did not think it was as good as Bowling for Columbine, I did enjoy it. It was a little long, and dragged at times. A little too sentimental at other times. Overall a good movie with lots of unexpected humor that makes you laugh even if you don't want to.
Two thumbs up.
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07-01-2004, 09:20 PM | #11 (permalink) |
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i wish he wouldnt make a movie that is so easily attacked...
http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723 this article is written by someone who used to write for The Nation lest you think i am a clueless neoconservative. there are real problems with our foreign policy, and the movie depicts some of this. however, i think there are also real problems with MM's method. but i guess thats okay if it fools people into voting donkey...right? |
07-02-2004, 10:33 AM | #13 (permalink) |
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I saw it and while I am not American it scares me to think that the Bush Admin acted in such ways.
Funny at times but it does beg answers to alot of questions I think alot of people will have.
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07-02-2004, 02:29 PM | #14 (permalink) |
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I downloaded it off bit-torrent. It was pretty good, I like the depth to which he goes into the Saudi connections.
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07-02-2004, 05:50 PM | #15 (permalink) |
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I saw it and thought it was pretty good on the whole.
I thought the whole thing on the Bush-Saudi link was very weak. It's now the source of most of the criticism of the film. It's too bad since the rest of the film, especially the parts on the Iraq War, is very good. If you're watching the beginning of the movie and think its all BS, just wait because it does get much better in my opinion at least. |
07-03-2004, 08:40 PM | #16 (permalink) | |
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And that's exactly what I think Moore is trying to do. But liberals have been wanting their own Rush Limbaugh and now they got him. Now both parties are fighting with the same weapons and who cares if the truth gets lost along the way. What matters is which party is the best manipulator. And, at present, it seems that the Democrats have edge with Moore (cause they certainly aren't going to beat Druggie Limbaugh with that stupid ass Air America). And please, no more comments on what a great filmmaker Moore is. Because he's not. Even back when I was a fan (as I once was), I didn't think he was a great filmmaker. But he was able to make great satires anyway. Now with each new film he's just becoming more and more just an idiot with a camera crew. |
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07-04-2004, 12:24 PM | #18 (permalink) |
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It's a great flick. There was nothing new introduced for anyone who makes a habit of avoids using the US corporate biased media as a news source. It's assertations are factual. If they were not we would have already seen multiple slander lawsuits. The really important thing about it is all the facts are now out there for the general public to see.
Also of interest is that Micheal Moore is encouraging people to pirate the film. The MPAA is not amused.
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07-04-2004, 12:29 PM | #19 (permalink) |
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I like Michael Moore, he is just so passionate about what he believes... he sees a lot that is wrong with the world and reveals it, even if he doesnt offer any really credible alternatives. I mean, who couldnt love him going after Heston the way he did in BFC?
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07-04-2004, 02:44 PM | #20 (permalink) |
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Just got home and I am shocked. I was amazed by this film. It almost made me cry, I laughed at George Bush so much that I cried. Great film. Deserved Cannes Film award.
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07-05-2004, 07:25 PM | #22 (permalink) |
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Excellent movie. Fuels my hatred for that child killing, money grubbing piece of shit murderer Bush. I pray to god he pays for all the innnocent people he has killed. I truly hope he is killed in the most brutal and painful way imaginable.
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IFC is showing a lot of interviews with moore because they have a stake in the film. at his cannes acceptance speech, he mentioned the "art of film". kind of ridiculous...i don't see where the "art" really factors into his work. his writing style is equally lacking. not that i'm a great writer, but i know crappy writing when i see it. he wrote the LA Times editorial last sunday. his heart could be in the right place, but the column utilized phony nostalgia and slight contradictions (first he chastises flag-wavers, then explains why he will hold up the flag). but whatever...he only has a high school education so i shouldn't be too harsh |
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07-06-2004, 03:15 AM | #25 (permalink) | |
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07-06-2004, 06:01 AM | #26 (permalink) |
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My wife and I saw it last night. Watch carefully for one of the funniest moments, which is when Michael Moore compares Bush's military service records with the Before and After versions. When he points out that Bush was disciplined for refusing to take his medical exam, the background music plays about three seconds of Clapton's "Cocaine." It's a scream, but a fast one.
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07-06-2004, 06:41 AM | #27 (permalink) | |
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That's a great example why I dislike the guy so much. Pretty classy to take clips of Heston's speech and present them in such a way that the real message Heston was conveying get's twisted around to play into Moores hand. And how hard is it to attack a guy that is in the beginning stages of Alzheimer’s? Real classy.
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07-06-2004, 07:49 AM | #28 (permalink) | |
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Whether you hate Moore or consider him bias, what he displayed on screen is all factual. You can be a Bush lover for the rest of your life for all I care. Your the type of person that probably couldnt care less that innocent women and children are being murdered so Bush could fill his pockets. Either that or you are probably blind and will follow anything your 'leader' tells you so you can be a 'good american citizen'. Its extremely scary to know that over 40% of this country is for 'Dubya'. Hell, we might as well put Saddam in power of the US. He is no different than Bush. They both have the same agenda. But lets forget all the fuck ups this hillbilly has made, after all, we gotz to git us sum towel heds. Last edited by Rdr4evr; 07-06-2004 at 09:21 AM.. |
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07-06-2004, 09:35 AM | #29 (permalink) |
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It did drag, and there were some parts that frustrated me (namely the heavy conspiracy overtones about the Bush-Saudi link -- while I know there are connections, it was oversold somewhat) but I was pleased with the film and found it an effective piece of media.
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07-06-2004, 09:40 AM | #30 (permalink) |
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A fistfight nearly broke out several rows in front of us, as an angry liberal shushed an angry conservative behind him (exact words: "Goddamn it, shut the hell up!"). Have any of the rest of you witnessed this in your theatres?
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07-06-2004, 10:33 AM | #31 (permalink) | |
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Some people walked out when I saw it, but that's about it. That's pretty funny. I'm sure Moore would love to hear that. He'd take it as a compliment that his movie incites fights instead of opening up communication between the two parties. But Moore's just concerned with polarizing people. The movie raked in another $20 Mil this weekend. How depressing. |
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Give me a break with this 'ridiculous generalizations' BS. That is used way too often. What do I need to prove? Its all been proven. Bush is a murderer, Bush is greedy, Bush doesnt give a shit about his people or country, Bush has fucked up the economy, Bush is selfish, Bush is a liar, Bush is more worried about his golf game than his homeland, Bush won because of a rigged election, etc etc etc. Now you tell me Saddam is not everyone of those things either. The facts are there, the facts are simple. Do you want a link for every single thing I mentioned? I will glad to post it for you. Why does everything always have to be so complicated. There is no deep meaning, its as simple as that. Last edited by Rdr4evr; 07-06-2004 at 01:40 PM.. |
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07-06-2004, 02:08 PM | #36 (permalink) | |
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Stop using the same lame comeback. You will have your chance to vote in November, and maybe if your lucky, he will get re-elected and go to war with Syria and Iran. |
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07-06-2004, 02:44 PM | #37 (permalink) |
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Before I say what I thought of the movie, I guess I should mention that I despise Bush, and that is not based on what other people say I should think, but just my own opinion. With that said, I was really disappointed in the movie. The way Moore puts together his information is very boring. It got to a point about 3/4 of the was into the film where I felt like leaving. I know the information he's giving isn't really "entertaining" information, but if you're going to make a movie of it you've got to present it in at least a somewhat entertaining way.
I've read that many people like the fact that Moore spends most of the time behind the camera. I agree I guess except that if he's going to do that, he should have done it for the whole film. There are only two or three typical "Moore" moments in the film, but they feel really out of place. |
07-06-2004, 03:45 PM | #38 (permalink) |
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*whacking off* Wow, that was the best! I just saw the movie and I could not wait to get home and rub one off. I think I am going to buy the DVD when it comes out. I will watch it and beat it all day long. Everyday!
End sarcasm here-------------------------------- I did see the film. I hate MM. I hate his politics. However, it was a well made film. I've also seen BFC and Roger & Me. Both good movies.
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