I take it back.
 

*Edit: After seeing this film, I have a hard time finding fault with it. I can't dispute this movie now that I've seen it.

I loved it.

let me just post this quote lol


Pakmule wrote:
If by good you mean "a steaming pile of dog shat" and by watch you mean "scrape it up with a shovel" and by thought provoking you mean "it makes you want to wretch from the smell". Then yes.

G5_Todd, did you watch it?

i saw the film on friday last.
in general, i thought it was well done. a better film than bfc, technically,
it is clearly aimed at conservatives--it tries to undermine thier frame of reference from the inside. it uses many of the same kind of moves you get from right sources--since i am not a conservative, i thought those moves annoying.

what i liked:
the use of the sound of 911 rather than the image.
the orwell quote at the end. great stuff.

that i heard lots of political debates going on after the film was over---documentaries are arguments, they work best when they inspire conversation, argument, debate. for that, i think the film is really a fine thing--certainly more heartening and interesting than hearing debates about spiderman or the characters from lord of the rings or other such after a film ends.

i would think people would be pleased to hear serous conversations being prompted by almost any political film.

what i did not like:
i did not understand what the argument ultimately was about the saudis. if you assume that he is talking to the hysterical nationalists on the right, then i can see what he was doing--but it also seemed to traffic in a kind of noxious arabs-are-evil thing.

you get enough to that shit from the right---from people who derive consequences from the dominant discourse without pretending to be careful about where those implications lead.

i thought the sentimental last third of the film was unnecessary--i felt for the mother from flint who lost a son in this absurd colonial war, but geez--again, i understand why moore would go that route, but since i am not one who has any investment in the argument or its inverse, it found it mawkish.

so there we are.

my thoughts exactly. didn't moore even go to hestons house?

he's lucky he wasnt greeted with a bullet to the head.



too bad