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Old 06-29-2004, 12:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Harry Potter Six

So, it has been revealed, the title of book six in the Harry Potter series iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis...

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Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince

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So now we're all free to speculate and dream over what the book will contain, whoohoo!

Personally, this is my least favorite title yet. I'm sure the book will be as imaginative and wonderful as ever, and the title is intriguing...I just don't like the way it sounds. Eh, sue me.

First off, with regards to who this character could be: (Rowling has stated it is neither Harry nor Voldemort) it would be a complete and utter cop-out to merely create a whole new character for the canon to fill this role. That would be unfair, and climactically and emotionally frivolous towards her fanbase, and I trust her not to do that.

I'm putting my money on either Seamus Finnigan or Dean Thomas. Both are known half-bloods, and Rowling gives us some interesting background information on Dean on her website.

It could also be a well-established adult character who it must revealed is a half-blood...(dum-de-dum-dum-DUMMMM!!!) PLOT-TWIST!!!

Any way we look at it, i'm still stoked for this, how about all of you?
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Old 06-29-2004, 12:34 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I agree, I mean, there has to have been a better way of putting it. Half Blood Prince? I mean, there never was much beating around the bush about the titles and what the central idea of the story is, but damn. Hmm, Seamus Finnigan or Dean Thomas sound too obvious, because they're "known half-bloods." It needs to be somebody that you know is a pure-blood, like Malfoy, or even Neville Longbottom. It would be pure ownage if Draco Malfoy wasn't a pureblood.
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Old 06-29-2004, 12:45 PM   #3 (permalink)
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It would also be cool to see that Snape is the half-blood prince... an odd twist.

Personally I lean toward either Neville or Draco.
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Old 06-29-2004, 01:11 PM   #4 (permalink)
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The Modern Humorist had a great Frequently Asked Questions: Harry Potter, which started with:
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Q: Harry Potter is the best! What are they going to call Book Four?
A: "Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire."

Q: "The Goblin of Fire?" Cool!
A: No, Goblet.

Q: Goblet? Like a cup?
A: Yes.

Q: Ugh. Could that be any more sucky?
A: It could have been "Harry Potter and the Phantom Menace."
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Old 06-29-2004, 01:20 PM   #5 (permalink)
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It would be pure ownage if Draco Malfoy wasn't a pureblood.
Hahaha, yeah it would.
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Old 06-29-2004, 02:48 PM   #6 (permalink)
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My money is going to be Neville. He really started to get more and more involved, especially in the 5th book. I can't wait for it to come out though. I just read all the books a few weeks ago, and am angry I have to wait for the rest =)
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Old 06-29-2004, 03:35 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I like the title! That is a pretty damned good question as to who the Half Blood Prince is. I'm sure she won't cop out and bring up a new character, but I really have no idea who else it could be. My guess is a character that wasn't thought to be a half-blood but really is (I.E. Draco). My girlfriend has a REALLY good theory: she's talking about Tom Riddle. Tom Riddle could be a half-blood, and he's a major character in the books by another name (Voldemort, of course). JK Rowling is known to be tricky, and that'd fit the bill perfectly for her style. She didn't say Tom Riddle wasn't the Half Blood Prince...she said Voldemort wasn't.


*EDIT*

My girlfriend just pointed out that Tom Riddle's dad is a mudblood, stated quite a few times in Chamber of Secrets. Whoops, I think we just found out who the Half Blood Prince is!

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Old 06-29-2004, 07:10 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Yeah, but Tom Riddle killed his father. I believe that his death is recalled early on in GoF. It's been a damn while since I read that though, seeing as how some ass stole my book, and I'm not willing to get a hardback copy for $25.
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Old 06-29-2004, 07:13 PM   #9 (permalink)
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His dad doesn't have anything to do with it! Think about it: if Tom Riddle's dad was a mudblood, then that makes Tom a Half Blood. Bingo! He may have killed his dad, but ya can't erase heritage!

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Old 06-29-2004, 08:33 PM   #10 (permalink)
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His dad doesn't have anything to do with it! Think about it: if Tom Riddle's dad was a mudblood, then that makes Tom a Half Blood. Bingo! He may have killed his dad, but ya can't erase heritage!

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Well, it's already been established that Voldemort isn't a pure blood, and since it's also been established that Tom Riddle = Voldemort... who knows though.
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Old 06-29-2004, 08:37 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I like the title! That is a pretty damned good question as to who the Half Blood Prince is. I'm sure she won't cop out and bring up a new character, but I really have no idea who else it could be. My guess is a character that wasn't thought to be a half-blood but really is (I.E. Draco). My girlfriend has a REALLY good theory: she's talking about Tom Riddle. Tom Riddle could be a half-blood, and he's a major character in the books by another name (Voldemort, of course). JK Rowling is known to be tricky, and that'd fit the bill perfectly for her style. She didn't say Tom Riddle wasn't the Half Blood Prince...she said Voldemort wasn't.


*EDIT*

My girlfriend just pointed out that Tom Riddle's dad is a mudblood, stated quite a few times in Chamber of Secrets. Whoops, I think we just found out who the Half Blood Prince is!

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His dad doesn't have anything to do with it! Think about it: if Tom Riddle's dad was a mudblood, then that makes Tom a Half Blood. Bingo! He may have killed his dad, but ya can't erase heritage!

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We already know Tom Riddle/Voldemort is a half-blood, Lasereth.
She mentions it in at least two books.
Rowling said it wasn't HP or Voldemort, and I doubt she would have another Tom Riddle from the past show up, since she has already used that plot devise in CoS.

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The Modern Humorist had a great Frequently Asked Questions: Harry Potter, which started with:

I like this quote from there, red.
(they're talking about the ever lengthening sizes of JKR's books)
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Q: Wow! Why do they keep getting longer?
A: Rowling is adjusting her material to her readers’ growing maturity. In fact, "Goblet of Fire" features the word "cocksucker" 63 times, up from 8 in the "Prisoner of Azkaban."
I'm thinking the title has to do with Hagrid.
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Old 06-29-2004, 09:13 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Or maybe its Hagrid! Wouldn't that be a riot.

EDIT: I SO wrote that before hitting refresh to see Fremen's post :P
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Old 06-30-2004, 03:27 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Im reading #5, Oder of the Phoenix right now....and I must say getting more pissed off with every page lol its so depressing so far...I had a point...what was it....OH Malfoy....I would LOVE to find out that slimy walking bottle of peroxide isnt a pure blood...that would make book 5 worth all the anger lol
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Old 06-30-2004, 03:50 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Old 06-30-2004, 09:53 AM   #15 (permalink)
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His dad doesn't have anything to do with it! Think about it: if Tom Riddle's dad was a mudblood, then that makes Tom a Half Blood. Bingo! He may have killed his dad, but ya can't erase heritage!

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Owned. I didn't read your post properly. I thought you were claiming Tom Riddle's father was the Half-Blood Prince. But, if Tom Riddle is the Half-Blood Prince, isn't he still dead? And I don't mean Lord Voldemort, I mean, Tom "Hey I live in a diary, but Harry Potter stabbed through it with the Basilisk's tooth, and so I supposedly died" Riddle.

On a different note, for the ending confrontation of the movie representation of Order Of The Phoenix, I'd like to see Potter beat the e'er-living shit out of Malfoy's gang, Matrix-Reloaded-opening-fight-scene-with-the-three-agents-style. That'd fucking awesome. Harry walks through a door and he's like "hiya fellaz." Then, just mix in the from The Matrix Reloaded (just that part) and the book (just the fight scene) and bam! you have a fucking awesome scene.
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Rowling said it wasn't HP or Voldemort, and I doubt she would have another Tom Riddle from the past show up, since she has already used that plot devise in CoS.
No need to bring a Tom Riddle back from the past! We're all going on what JK Rowling clearly stated: it's not Voldemort, and it's not Harry Potter. Voldemort IS Tom Riddle and vice versa. Rowling did not say that it wasn't Tom Riddle, and if anyone has read Rowling's interviews, she's *very* tricky about her wording on future events concerning her books. Tom Riddle is a half-blood, as stated in the novels. I still think it's a damn likely possibility! It'd be a hell of a lot more interesting than Hagrid.

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Old 06-30-2004, 10:50 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Hey, what about the LAST word of the title? What does she mean by Prince? In each book, there is more and more of the world revealed; for instance, the existance of other wizarding schools.

For wizard governance, we've seen that there are ministries, but I don't recall anything about a king/queen/etc. A couple of possibilities: (1) there is a royal family, and we'll find out about them; (2) there used to be a royal family, and someone will return to try to get the throne.

I don't think the "half-blood prince" is anyone we've met yet.
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Old 06-30-2004, 01:27 PM   #18 (permalink)
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No, it's gotta be somebody we know, just somebody's past we never knew about. I'm still back 1)Neville Longbottom, 2)Dean Thomas, 3)Seamus Finnigan, 4) Draco Malfoy (just because of the mega-pwnage factor ).
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Old 06-30-2004, 04:48 PM   #19 (permalink)
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i think in order of likelihood the half-blood prince will be:

1. Neville Longbottom
2. Hagrid... dunno
3. Draco Malfoy

also, I loved this quote from that Q&A thing

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I'm thinking the title has to do with Hagrid. [/B]
That's where my money is.
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Old 06-30-2004, 06:31 PM   #21 (permalink)
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It's Hagrid, Half-Blood Prince of the Giants.
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Old 06-30-2004, 08:21 PM   #22 (permalink)
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It's Hagrid, Half-Blood Prince of the Giants.
I was thinking the same thing. I could see Hagrid regaining some of his senses, after his fling with the Headmaster from that other school. I wouldn't be surprised if he returned to his Giant roots and managed to earn the loyalty of the Giants in the war against Voldemort.
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Old 07-03-2004, 10:08 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Of course, it very well needn't be something that is bad, i guess, like, that a character needed it kept secret, it could simply be a new character who is very crucial to the plot, as my friends pointed out to me. and thusly, it would be okay to introduce a new character, I think, because the emotional shock value wouldn't be as cool/important.

But if it is something bad, such as it necesitated the need to be kept secret, then i sort of feel it's a bit of a cop out.
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Old 07-03-2004, 11:57 PM   #24 (permalink)
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i dunno maybe its someone thats related to another character, i was thinking maybe an old character would return like krum, or a relative of fluer
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and I doubt she would have another Tom Riddle from the past show up, since she has already used that plot devise in CoS.

The "Half Blood Prince" was one of the original titles for CoS though.
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so the 'prince' part could mean he's related to godric gryffindor?
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Old 07-09-2004, 08:12 AM   #27 (permalink)
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I was thinking the same thing. I could see Hagrid regaining some of his senses, after his fling with the Headmaster from that other school. I wouldn't be surprised if he returned to his Giant roots and managed to earn the loyalty of the Giants in the war against Voldemort.
I like this idea, but for some reason am hung up on Justin Finch-Fletchley. Supposedly there is a major clue in book 2... he's the other half-blood petrified by the basilisk, and remaiins in DA. So yeah...
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Old 08-18-2004, 06:08 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Here's a small excerpt from a Q&A session with J K Rowling at a book festival in Scotland.
The link is to her website and has the full transcript.
http://www.jkrowling.com/textonly/news_view.cfm?id=80

Sunday 15 August 2004

J K Rowling at the Edinburgh Book Festival

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"You have probably had a lot of people trying to get information out of you about the books, but what is the strangest thing, or maybe the slyest thing, anyone has done? Have you ever slipped up?"

"Well, you are pretty sneaky. People ask questions like, “Will there be an eighth novel and will Harry be in it?” There are questions that I simply can’t answer. Fans are very good at that, and I have to be very awake. I think that you want to know but you don’t want to know as well. You would all like me to tell you exactly what happens in books six and seven and then to erase your memories so that you can read them. I know, because that is how I feel about things that I really enjoy. I would kind of like to do it, but at the same time I know that I would ruin it for everyone.

I thought that I would give you something though, rather than get to the end of today and think that I have not given you a lot. There are two questions that I have never been asked but that I should have been asked, if you know what I mean. If you want to speculate on anything, you should speculate on these two things, which will point you in the right direction. The first question that I have never been asked—it has probably been asked in a chatroom but no one has ever asked me—is, “Why didn’t Voldemort die?” Not, “Why did Harry live?” but, “Why didn’t Voldemort die?” The killing curse rebounded, so he should have died. Why didn’t he? At the end of Goblet of Fire he says that one or more of the steps that he took enabled him to survive. You should be wondering what he did to make sure that he did not die—I will put it that way. I don’t think that it is guessable. It may be—someone could guess it—but you should be asking yourself that question, particularly now that you know about the prophesy. I’d better stop there or I will really incriminate myself. The other question that I am surprised no one has asked me since Phoenix came out—I thought that people would—is why Dumbledore did not kill or try to kill Voldemort in the scene in the ministry. I know that I am giving a lot away to people who have not read the book. Although Dumbledore gives a kind of reason to Voldemort, it is not the real reason. When I mentioned that question to my husband—I told Neil that I was going to mention it to you—he said that it was because Voldemort knows that there are two more books to come. As you can see, we are on the same literary wavelength. [Laughter]. That is not the answer; Dumbledore knows something slightly more profound than that. If you want to wonder about anything, I would advise you to concentrate on those two questions. That might take you a little bit further."
Pretty interesting read.
I'm gonna have think about this info for awhile...

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damn, I have a pretty good hunch on what that stuff Fremen posted means.......I hope I didn't guess it already
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Harry and Voldemort's fates are intertwined? If Voldemort dies then Harry will too?

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Old 08-18-2004, 07:09 PM   #31 (permalink)
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That seems to be the general idea, Mr.D. I think that was what was being hinted at in the end of Book 5, but Harry was too dense to get it.
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Old 08-18-2004, 07:13 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Harry and Voldemort's fates are intertwined? If Voldemort dies then Harry will too?

yep. "why didn't voldemort die?" because harry lived!

why didn't dumbledore mega-pwn voldemort? because harry would die along with him


but, that wasy too easy. rowling said it probably wouldn't be guessed easily. hmm. maybe we are just <b>that damn good.</b>
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Yeah plus it's an old theory, heck, even Daniel Radcliffe mentioned it in an interview when asked how he'd like to see the saga conclude.
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Old 08-18-2004, 09:08 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Old 08-19-2004, 02:14 PM   #36 (permalink)
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I imagine it will be another year till the book comes out, and nearly two till the next movie comes out.
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Old 08-19-2004, 11:56 PM   #38 (permalink)
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They've been filming for a while now, Mr.D. ;-)

Clémence Poésy is cast as Fleur Delacour
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Principal photography is now underway on Warner Bros. Pictures' Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, the fourth film adaptation of J.K. Rowling's much loved "Harry Potter" novel series.

With production based at England's Leavesden Studios, the film is directed by Mike Newell (Mona Lisa Smile, Four Weddings and a Funeral) and produced by David Heyman. The screenplay is by Steve Kloves, who has penned the screenplays for all three previous "Harry Potter" films. David Barron (Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets) serves as executive producer.

Joining the ensemble are several new cast members, led by esteemed actor Brendan Gleeson (Troy, Cold Mountain), who plays Hogwarts' new Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher Mad-Eye Moody. Ralph Fiennes (Red Dragon, Maid in Manhattan, Schindler's List) will play Harry Potter's nemesis, the evil Lord Voldemort, and British actress Miranda Richardson (The Hours, Sleepy Hollow, The Crying Game) will star as muckraking reporter, Rita Skeeter. Frances De La Tour (The Cherry Orchard, Strike it Rich) plays the Headmistress of Beauxbatons Academy of Magic, Madame Maxime; Roger Lloyd-Pack (Vanity Fair, BBC TV's Only Fools and Horses) plays the Head of the Department of International Magical Cooperation, Barty Crouch; Pedja Bjelac (Eurotrip) plays Durmstrang Professor Igor Karkaroff; Jeff Rawle (Inspector Calls II, Baal, TV's Drop the Dead Donkey) plays Amos Diggory; and David Tennant (Bright Young Things) plays Barty Crouch Jr.

New additions to the young cast include Robert Pattinson (The Ring) as Cedric Diggory; Stanislav Ianevski as Quidditch star Viktor Krum; Clemence Poesy (Bienvenue chez les Rozes, Petite Soeur) as Fleur Delacour; and Katie Leung as Cho Chang.

Daniel Radcliffe, Rupert Grint, Emma Watson and Tom Felton once again reprise the roles of Harry Potter, Ron Weasley, Hermione Granger and their archrival Draco Malfoy, respectively. In the roles of fellow Hogwarts students are Matthew Lewis as Neville; Devon Murray as Seamus; Jamie Waylett as Crabbe; Joshua Herdman as Goyle; Alfie Enoch as Dean; Oliver and James Phelps as Fred and George Weasley; and Chris Rankin as Percy.

Returning to the adult ensemble are Robbie Coltrane as Hagrid; Michael Gambon as Headmaster Albus Dumbledore; Robert Hardy as Minister for Magic Cornelius Fudge; Shirley Henderson as Moaning Myrtle; Jason Isaacs as Lucius Malfoy; Gary Oldman as Sirius Black; Alan Rickman as Professor Snape; Dame Maggie Smith as Professor McGonagall; Timothy Spall as Peter Pettigrew; and Mark Williams as Arthur Weasley.

The production also welcomes back production designer Stuart Craig ("Sorcerer's Stone," "Chamber of Secrets"); director of photography Roger Pratt ("Chamber of Secrets"); costume designer Jany Temime ("Prisoner of Azkaban"); VFX supervisor Jim Mitchell ("Chamber of Secrets"); and creature effects and make-up supervisor Nick Dudman ("Prisoner of Azkaban," "Chamber of Secrets"). Mick Audsley (Mona Lisa Smile, High Fi delity) joins "Goblet of Fire" as editor.
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It would also be cool to see that Snape is the half-blood prince... an odd twist.

Personally I lean toward either Neville or Draco.
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