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Redjake 04-04-2004 09:28 AM

Hellboy
 
Anyone see it? I saw it last night. It was VERY interesting. I don't know if I like it or not (yet). I need to think about it for a while. The action scenes were decent, not the best, but they were good enough. The acting was EXCELLENT. That's where the movie shines. Perlman gives obnoxiously not-funny one-liners every 5 seconds during the action scenes. These are actually so not-funny that they end up being funny. Like an FBI agent runs out in front of a truck, and Hellboy jumps over in front of the truck and goes "RED MEANS STOP!" and punches the front of the truck making it do a flip over top of them. True comedy.

Perlman is great as Hellboy (I think). The reason I say "I think" is because I don't know anything about Hellboy at all. So I guess that's how he is supposed to act. I know that by the end of the movie you don't see the makeup anymore or the redicilous arm. You see a troubled freak.

Graphics: For the most part, very good. Some of the parts were "iffy," but none of them were just bad.

Conclusion: I liked it, but it's not for people who don't read comics (or didn't read comics at one point). The last 1/3 of the movie concentrates on the comic-aspect of the series, leaving regular plotlines behind. I recommend it for open-minded people.

sadistikdreams 04-04-2004 12:14 PM

I saw it last night too, and I thought it was pretty damn cool.
I went to the comic book store and broke the "THIS IS NOT A LIBRARY" rule and read a few issues of Hellboy. It matches up pretty well.

gnort 04-04-2004 12:18 PM

I loved it. It got the feel of the comic perfectly. The kind of dry humor is what makes Hellboy so great. The random quips and jokes while fighting is how the fights in Spider-man should have been. Sure it was a little anti-climactic, but I can look past that to give this movie around a 3/5--4/5

JStrider 04-04-2004 12:43 PM

i saw it... liked it a bunch!

meepa 04-04-2004 12:43 PM

I had never heard of Hellboy before the movie, so my opinion is based on just a movie, not preconcieved notions of what I should have been expecting.

Bottom line: I thought the movie was entertaining and worth seeing. Would I see it again? Nah. The special effects were pretty cool, the acting was fine. Character development? I thought that might have been a little lacking, but I'll just assume this was meant to be an action flick. There are a few romance scenes which drag ass... Probably mean more to the comic-reading crowd than the know-nothing viewer.

I felt that about halfway in to the film, it stopped getting deeper into the characters and the momentum or tension of the movie didn't raise anymore. Sure it didn't drop off... but it just flatlined at like 80% instead of ramping up to a good climax.

So basically I thought the movie started out awesome and fast, but somewhere in the middle it lost its way and ended up mediocre. Perhaps your best bet is to watch the first half, and then leave while your blood is still pumping and make up your own ending ;)

Rodney 04-04-2004 01:47 PM

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Originally posted by meepa
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So basically I thought the movie started out awesome and fast, but somewhere in the middle it lost its way and ended up mediocre.

I'd agree with that, though I'm a little harsher in my overall opinion. Perlman did a great job in the role, the effects and set design were decent, but I just sort of lost interest about halfway through -- all that run-run chase-chase sort of mushed together, and I stopped finding it suspenseful.

Also, while in the comics finding a vast underground dungeon with gigantic mantraps that goes on for miles under an obscure ceremony isn't anything to remark on, in a movie, well, it's a little ridiculous.

Or maybe I'm just disappointed because the movie peaked in the first ten minutes. Occult Nazis trying to breach the barrier into the hell dimension in the middle of a firefight with G.I.s? What's not to like :-). Coulda been great, but turned out to be just an okay popcorn movie. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

On the other hand, the trailer for Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow was brilliant.

Plan9Senior 04-04-2004 02:24 PM

For the love of God I wish they would stop making these comic book movies. They all blow...

Mr.Deflok 04-04-2004 02:47 PM

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Originally posted by Plan9
For the love of God I wish they would stop making these comic book movies. They all blow...
So you've seen HellBoy and not liked it? What about X-men 2? How about Blade 1?

Redjake 04-04-2004 03:26 PM

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Originally posted by Plan9
For the love of God I wish they would stop making these comic book movies. They all blow...
Millions of people disagree. All things considered, sometimes you have to be a fan of comic books to begin with, or at least fantasy in general, but it sounds to me like you are stereotyping the genre as sucking without giving them a chance.

Golgothas 04-04-2004 03:40 PM

They need to make Lucifer into a movie, that would kickass.

Hellboy was an okay movie, I never read the comic and I'm still not interested in it after the movie.

Plan9Senior 04-04-2004 04:54 PM

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Originally posted by Redjake
Millions of people disagree. All things considered, sometimes you have to be a fan of comic books to begin with, or at least fantasy in general, but it sounds to me like you are stereotyping the genre as sucking without giving them a chance.
No, I just think they all really suck. The only one that was halfway decent was spiderman. I am not a child so possibly this could be why I think they are silly /shrug. I don't down any of you for liking them, I just don't understand how you DO like them :).

Lasereth 04-04-2004 05:31 PM

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Originally posted by Plan9
No, I just think they all really suck. The only one that was halfway decent was spiderman. I am not a child so possibly this could be why I think they are silly /shrug. I don't down any of you for liking them, I just don't understand how you DO like them :).
I think Spiderman is the worst of the comic-book movies. I think Blade 2 and X-Men 2 are the best easily.

-Lasereth

Daval 04-05-2004 05:38 AM

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Originally posted by Plan9
No, I just think they all really suck. The only one that was halfway decent was spiderman. I am not a child so possibly this could be why I think they are silly /shrug. I don't down any of you for liking them, I just don't understand how you DO like them :).

Which ones HAVE you seen?

noahfor 04-05-2004 06:54 AM

The best comic book movie is Batman, and Batman Returns was decent as well.

Reese 04-06-2004 02:07 AM

Hellboy was great. Ron pearlman was perfect. I own 1-2 hellboy comics, I don't know how, because I don't remember buying them or anyone giving them to me, anyways...

The movie was one of the best comic book movies I've seen, stand alone, or when compared to their comic counterparts.

I did notice alot of scenes were cut short. Hopefully the DVD will have alot of extended scenes.

The humor was great, I thought. The "red means stop" was kinda silly, but when he's spying on liz and john's coffee date, He's hilarious, and he's showing how human his character is at the same time. I think that was a great scene.

Xsas 04-06-2004 03:22 AM

Hellboy sucked. The only good thing about it was the first 5 minutes. Otherwise, it was incredibly boring.

However, I thought the other comic book movies, Blade I, and the X-mens were both very good.

We'll see about the Punisher.

wondash 04-06-2004 05:05 AM

I really liked Hellboy. Although the special effects and action scenes were good, it seems like it's all been done before in one way or another. The Hellboy character made the movie.

FaderMonkey 04-06-2004 07:56 AM

I haven't seen Hellboy yet, but I want to. I know nothing about the comic, so I don't know if that will make the movie better or worse.

Not that this is a surprise at all, but it looks like the chances of a sequel are pretty good:

http://www.themoviebox.net/php/news/...t_from=&ucat=&

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http://www.themoviebox.net/php/news/...roninhell2.jpg

While channel surfing the tv I caught a glance at Ron Perlman promoting Hellboy on ESPN's "Best Damn Sports Show," in which the film has just took tops at this weekend's box office.

Right off the bat, host / actor Tom Arnold asked Perlman about the possibility of a Hellboy sequel.

Perlman replied, "Ah .. we got the news this morning, and god willing ... ah and if he (del Toro) could write a decent script ... Boom! And I'm sure he will"

Hellboy, which tells the story of a demon risen from flames of hell but raised to fight monsters and evil creatures, recently took in $23 million this weekend beating out The Rock's actioner "Walking Tall."

Writer-director Guillermo del Toro has said he would love to make another "Hellboy" movie. Hellboy has been a "dream" project for the Mexican helmer. Currently he is attached to another dream project of his, H.P. Lovecraft's "At the Mountains of Madness" at DreamWorks.

phredgreen 04-06-2004 08:06 AM

woo for more hellboy. i went and saw it the other day for shits and giggles, i didn't have any previous knowledge of the series, but i really liked what i saw. the effects were very good, and i appreciate the fact that they didn't kill the movie with overdone CG. fun stuff all around.

m0rpheus 04-06-2004 09:54 AM

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Originally posted by Plan9
For the love of God I wish they would stop making these comic book movies. They all blow...
Some questions,

1) Are you a comic book fan? If not then why do you care? Comic book fans, like me, want to see the characters on the big screen.

2) What comic book movies have you seen? Ya Captain America blows, as did Steel, and many of the later Batman and Superman movies BUT the first two Superman movies did not blow. They were great and it didnt matter if you were a comic fan or not. Spider-man didnt blow, neither did the original Batman. X-men and X2 were both quite good.

Saying that all comic movies blow is like saying that all comedies blow or all sci-fi movies blow. Sure some do, but in every genre theres the good and the bad.

zaiaz 04-06-2004 12:35 PM

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Originally posted by Plan9
No, I just think they all really suck. The only one that was halfway decent was spiderman. I am not a child so possibly this could be why I think they are silly /shrug. I don't down any of you for liking them, I just don't understand how you DO like them :).
After 40 years of reading comics.....just use your imagination;)
Haven't seen it yet, me and my son are planning on seeing it together. I know I will like it because it has to with a fantasy reality.

Sparhawk 04-06-2004 01:59 PM

This one gets a solid

Meh.

I like Perlman, but the last half of the movie just dragged ass. They need to stop making 2 hour long comic book movies. Fer crying out loud.

mattevil 04-06-2004 10:00 PM

i hear there's going to be an extended edition dvd.
http://www.superherohype.com/hellboy/index.php?id=1143

Eowyn_Vala 04-07-2004 04:45 AM

saw it and liked it although i've never read any of the comics i don't feel like i missed too much since it flowed decently well

Golgothas 04-07-2004 07:31 AM

I believe some studio has picked up Watchmen to be made into a movie, which has me excited. If you are not familiar with Watchmen, you must read it - even if you don't like comic books, it is one of those comics that is just so damn good and important.

From Hell and Road to Perdition are also the best comic book movies ^_^

m0rpheus 04-07-2004 08:59 AM

Dear god I dont want a Watchmen movie. It'll be butchered.
The series is 12 issues long and each part is integral to the plot.

Unless they intend to make it as a trilogy, it will suck.

losthellhound 04-10-2004 05:54 AM

just saw HellBoy last night.. Have to say.. It rocked..

They picked the right actors, they did a good job on the backstory, the action was just right, and they got alot of good humor in without making it cheesy.,. my favorite part is the fact they put HellBoy comics in to which HB replies "I hate those, they never get the eyes right"

I recommend it highly to comics book fans, and people who have never picked one up

Edit: Ron Perlman is also my hero now after looking through his bio on IMDB. He does comics book movies, he does action movies, and he's been in some of my favorite video games (narrarator's voice in Fallout top on that list.. Now all I can hear is HellBoy saying "war.. war never changes")

qwe 04-10-2004 10:14 AM

for a truly asinine tid bit, they're renaming it "super sapiens" in malaysia. because after they banned daredevil, the movie company doesnt want to take any risks.

JohnnyRoyale 04-11-2004 06:51 PM

Ok, there were two things abou tthis film that kind of irked me:

1. The lack of background on the characters. The relationship between broom and hellboy? hellboy and liz? And how about the bad guys?

2. For some reason, the quips reminded by of Buffy the Vampire Slayer...I'll probably get reamed for saying that, but hey, they did.

Other than those things, I thought it was good.

Destrox 04-11-2004 08:53 PM

The ending seemed like it was just thrown at me, and didnt have much to go for it.

5.5 or 6 / 10

I'd still see it again if some friends wanted to tho, it wasnt that bad. :)

WarWagon 04-11-2004 09:29 PM

I did think it dragged on for a bit at points, but other than that, I really liked it.

the_marq 04-12-2004 06:24 AM

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Originally posted by JohnnyRoyale

The lack of background on the characters. The relationship between broom and hellboy? hellboy and liz? And how about the bad guys?


I have not read the comics, so I too felt that the backstory seemed a little thin. However, the relationship between HB and Broom was pretty clear; father and son. The thing with Liz seemed a little 'tacked on' but I'd have to ask someone who is familiar with the comics to see if that is a hollywood adaptation, I'd guess that it is.

All in all it was a great movie, the pure visuals of the bright red HB character in the hi-contrast enviroments was worth it for me. But thankfully there was a lot more to it than that.


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