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thespian86 03-29-2004 03:51 PM

Lock Stock or Snatch
 
I just finished watching one of my favorite movies, Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels. The film is by english director Guy Riche.

After Lock Stock came out, Guy Riche directed a similar film called Snatch, staring many of the same actors (Jason Statham, Vinnie Jones...) great film! The films are both based on the underground crimal "scene" of England. Both films are many different stories intertwined to come to a climatic end. Snatch is a much more commercial film but it is still amazing.

I'd like your oppion on which is better? Reasons please!

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BuddyHawks 03-29-2004 03:56 PM

Although I enjoyed both films very much, I prefer Snatch. It seems to flow better and has more memoriable characters.

Latch 03-29-2004 04:59 PM

I agree. Both films were great, but Snatch left more of a memorable impression on me. Brad Pitt was pretty good in it too.

Fire 03-29-2004 05:28 PM

loved both, but have to go with lock stock- it was first, and has more of a gritty feel to it- less polish, but more shine- and the flaming guy comming outa the bar- and the explanation thereof, much later, was beautiful.....and cmon- who can argue with the 15 inch black rubber cock?

sapphire 03-29-2004 06:32 PM

I absolutely loved both films, but I think I liked snatch a little bit more...Brad Pitt and Benicio Del Toro were great and the dog swallowing the chew toy cracked me up.

Ace_O_Spades 03-29-2004 06:53 PM

Ill agree with everyone here on Snatch giving the more memorable experience

Brad Pitt was hilarious

and of course... my favorite line:

"Sneaky fucking Russians...."

maximusveritas 03-29-2004 07:29 PM

I was pretty disappointed with Snatch since it was so similar to Lock Stock. Even though its still a good movie, it doesn't give people who saw Lock Stock anything really new. Del Toro, who played the most interesting character in the movie, was really under-utilized. I'm starting to think that Richie is gonne be a one-hit wonder with Lock Stock. Don't know if it's because of Madonna, but he's gone way downhill since then.

bgivnin 03-29-2004 08:47 PM

I didn't like Snatch at all. Lock Stock, I love rather favorably. If it was my choice between the 2, I'll stick with Lock Stock. More funny one-liners, better plot, setup, and the stories are hilarious.

Mephisto2 03-29-2004 09:13 PM

Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrells was, by far, the superiour film. Original, amusing, engaging...

Snatch, on the other hand, was entirely derivative. He might as well as called it Lock, Stock and Three Smoking Barrells. It also had a bit too much gratuitous violence. Brad Pitt did a great Irish "tinker" accent though (and I should know, having grown up with them calling to our house begging all the time).

Lock, Stock = Top Marks
Snatch = Trying to replicate his own originality & success and just not getting there...


Mr Mephisto

Stare At The Sun 03-29-2004 09:15 PM

::looks to avatar::

Yeah. Snatch = better.

But both are great movies.

jhericurl21 03-29-2004 09:43 PM

i liked how in Lock Stock, how it all came together in the end, with all the gangs fighting

wrongfullyaccuzd 03-29-2004 11:51 PM

Yeah I kind of liked the ending of Lock Stock better, not to say that Snatch's ending was bad. But Snatch was better overall. The fight scene at the end is one of the most memorable for me of any scene from any movie; the punch, the Oasis song, the line about a pikey reaction being quite a fucking thing...great scene.
Gonna go watch them both now, thanks for making me procrastinate more.

Anomaly_ 03-30-2004 12:45 AM

I liked Lock Stock better. It felt more submerged in the underground crime scene of London and in general, more "English". The American actors in Snatch ruined it for me and the movie was a rehash like others have said. Then again, a lot of people call Lock Stock a clone of Pulp Fiction. For me it played out more like a Seinfeld episode where all the subplots converge into one mess of scheming gone wrong.

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CSflim 03-30-2004 02:20 AM

There is no competition. Lock, Stock is on all accounts the far finer film. Don't get me wrong...I *loved* Snatch, but like Mephisto said, it could easily have gone under the title of "Lock, Stock and Three Smoking Barrells"
I think Snatch tried too hard to get laughs, but in Lock, Stock the laughs just came much more naturally.

Brad Pitt, though, did do a great "member of the travelling community" to use the current p.c. term. :)

Mephisto2 03-30-2004 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CSflim

Brad Pitt, though, did do a great "member of the travelling community" to use the current p.c. term. :)

Yeah, I guess I was being a bit unpolitically correct!

LOL

I didn't think anyone else from Ireland would be here!


Mr Mephisto

thespian86 03-30-2004 01:10 PM

Good stuff ladies and gents... Also, What are your thoughts on the performance of the actors that were in both... Which ones gave a better proformance? I think that one of my favorite actors, Jason Statham, was much better in Snatch. What about Vinnie Jones or Del Toro ect..

Thanks

moonstrucksoul 03-30-2004 02:27 PM

snatch is way better than Lock, Stock . . . definately made a deeper impression.

Sparhawk 03-30-2004 03:12 PM

snaps to Snatch, I loved it. It had a lot better pacing in my opinion, along with the best boxing scene I've seen since Raging Bull. I think Snatch learned from a lot of the mistakes made in Lock, etc - like actually introducing us to the characters in that *lovely* montage sequence, instead of making us scratch our heads for the first half an hour with the barrage of speaking parts in Lock.

I also saw Snatch before I saw Lock, and the difference in just film quality (cinematography and so forth) was jarring and unexpected.

gonad 03-31-2004 01:28 PM

I definitely liked Snatch better. I liked the storyline better, and the main character in Lock Stock was kind of a whiny little bitch. And the dog cracked me up.

iccky 04-02-2004 06:03 PM

Personally, I thought Snatch had too many charecters. With lock-stock centered mainly on the 4 friends, with a few other less important charecters. It really allowed those charecters to develop, as opposed to Snatch where you had so many possible main charecters, most charicatures, who I at least had trouble following around.

But other people have made a simmilar criticizem, except in reverse, so I maybe I should go watch snatch again. Generally I find people who saw first lock-stock liked it better, while those who saw snatch first liked it better.

Jack Ruby 04-03-2004 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stare At The Sun
::looks to avatar::

Yeah. Snatch = better.

:p

I think I love them both equally.

Nefir 04-03-2004 07:49 AM

I prefer Lock Stock. I dunno, it just seems a bit more "authentic". Snatch seems like it was assembled from the same "parts bin", using leftovers after Lock Stock was finished.

Both are great movies, mind you, and both have extremely memorable moments, but Lock Stock seems to come together alot better, and when someone says "Guy Ritchie", it is the movie that comes to mind first.

Not very scientific, but there you are. :D

EDIT: Well, this thread just inspired me to whip out my Lock Stock avatar. Way to go, people :crazy:

cherriesue 04-03-2004 01:46 PM

I prefer Lock Stock...maybe because I saw it first or maybe because it didn't have mainstream actors in it to try to pull in more of an audience...or maybe both...either way, I enjoy both of these films

iccky 04-05-2004 06:06 AM

BTW, sweet avatar Nefir.

MexicanOnABike 04-05-2004 06:10 PM

hmm... i saw snatch a few times, then lockstock... i thought lockstock sucked... but then i saw it again with my friend and it rocked! so fucking funny! "i've been shot!" "could everyone stop getting shot?"

i say they are equaly good.

Nafter 04-06-2004 08:52 PM

lock stock definitly, it was first and when it came out, was something new for me, watched it several times, but snatch, felt like more of the same, id have to rewatch them both to tell you who had good performances but from memory brad pitt's pikey acting was exellent, i think del toro had a small part and nothing special came from it, he didnt really do anything major / interesting and though the acting was good for what he did, theres not a lot to go off.


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