The video game is sweet, and it came with a movie poster and free tickets... so the i will be seeing the movie this weekend. Even if it sucks... the game is real fun to play

Allow me to agree. This is the film I've been dreaming of since I was 13. As simple as it should have been, we finally got a movie about Batman.

All his gadgets and equipment made sense and were given a realistic precedent. This made the eventual appearance of "psycho dude in a bat-suit" believable, and for me, this is what the success of the movie hinged on. It was nice to see Lucius Fox, who in a lot of ways is a character necessary for making Batman believable, in the movie.

I'd say the overall tone of the film was closest to the Neal Adams era Batman (of course with a lot of modified "Year One" origin stuff).

Also interesting that the "Mask of Zorro" was replaced with, I'm guessing, Wagner's "Die Fledermaus."

I saw this movie last night. I am still shiting myself at how amazing it was. Someone finnaly did Batman Right. This movie kicked so much ass it isn't funny. Schumacher should watch this so he understands what a fucking tool he really is.

I heartily approve of this movie. You could really get a feel for what the characters were doing and why they were doing it. It's more 'intelligent' than other Batman movies have ever been. In one of the interview articles posted it was said that they want you to forget there have ever been other Batman movies; that is a good thing.


Of all the Batman movies, I only hold the original Batman on level with this one. While this kicks ass in every way Batman should, the very first is hilariously campy. (See: "Somedays, you just can't get rid of a bomb!")

Bah this thread proves only that comic fiends know nothing about the art of cinema...

Just got back from seeing it. Awesome movie. It was a great Batman.. I was actually afraid that I'd get bored during it w/ all the "batman's history" stuff, but no way.. I loved it.

Go see it.

Can we remake all the Batman movies in this fashion? Everything about the movie clicked together solidly. The best part of the movie, however, was the acting. It's nice to be able to say that about a Batman movie :)

I would definetly like an more indepth explination of this comment before I deside to take ofense or not.....

I liked it.

Just saw it, and I friggin loved it. Casting was amazing all the way around. And I loved the action... you really felt that he was melting in and out of the shadows.

Anyone know how many (if any) sequels Bale/Nolan are attached to? I really hope this isn't the only film we'll see from this crew.


meh, so what if it's not a cinematic masterpiece. Does it have to be? This was an above average movie that happens to be a fantastic rendition of a character we love. So sue us for being excited.

I was debating about something with a friend of mine. The part where Bruce goes back to Gotham for the trial of his parents' murderer, was that a flashback? Or did he take a break from his training to go the trial? I thought it was a flashback, and that he began his life as a thief and his training right after that. I could just be assuming that Nolan likes to fuck with timelines though. :D

Spoiler: The trial was for the release of Joe Chill, the murdurer. He was sentenced and imprisoned between the time we see Bruce as a boy at his mansion hugging Caine and when he comes back as a collegian. Bruce came back for the release of Joe Chill - released for ratting on Falcone - when he was in college (Yale) to represent his family. It was a flashback.

Christian Bale was signed to do three movies. I don't know if they'll remake the existing ones, but at least it's more Batman movies, hopefully as good as this one.

I just got back from this one....


this...was....awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Simply the best batman ever. Easily on par with the first one. (perhaps above!?) This, IMO, was the way Batman should be shown. Dark. Mysterious. Tortured soul. JUST FANTASTIC! Thank you Christopher Nolan!

My only complaint...
Spoiler:
They didn't have Jack Naiper kill the Waynes. I was really hoping that we'd see someone looking like a young Jack Nicholson appear in the alley behind the theatre...

*** out of ****

The first good Batman movie, easily the best live action Batman ever, a nice mix of Year One, The Long Halloween, and Blind Justice. Every performance is right on the money, the look of the film is right on, the suit isn't terrible, the story well done and the focus is in the right place, on Batman and Bruce Wayne.

Unfortunately, there were two glaring flaws. First, the hand to hand fight scenes were for the most part awful. Bale can carry a fight scene; there's no need for the ultra fast cutting that doesn't show clearly what's going on. If you don't know how to stage a fight scene and present it clearly, hire a fight coreographer who does. Second, the big twist at the 3/4 mark was telegraphed 5 minutes into the movie, at least for anyone who's ever read a Ra's al Ghul story.

Fortunately, those elements are secondary ones that only detract a little from what is clearly a superior film for the Batman franchise. Not in my list of top 10 comic book movies, but still, a good Batman movie is a first.

The fights scenes were exactly what I was going to comment on Gilda. Why is it that American DPs and directors find it so hard to film a fight scene? From what I could see of the fights, it looked like they were choreographed well, just filmed and edited poorly. While in the past it was to cover up the obvious inexperience of the American cast members, many of today's action stars go through months of training before and during the filming to be able to pull off these scenes. Christian Bale performed well in Equilibirum, and can obviously hold his own in a fight scene. American DPs need to take a page out of the Asian DP playbook, using wide angle shots and very little cut scenes to showcase all the hard work the actors are putting into their roles.

But aside from this, the storyline and acting was spectacular, and I like the return to a simpler formula for these films, instead of the campy and exaggerated look of the previous ones.

From the sound of this movie (will see it soon), I have high hopes for future ones, which will hopefully involve a truly dark and twisted Joker.

Quite simply,
Spoiler: That was because Naiper didn't kill the Waynes in the Comics, that was just a way to tie in the Movie. No basis to the comic book creation of Batman. At least that's my understanding ;)

Napier doesnt exist in the comics, The Joker has never been given a name and probably never will. The whole Napier killing the parents thing in Burtons movie was just to tie Batman and Joker together. Hopefully they do a real Joker origin for the next movie, see Batman: The Killing Joke and Batman: The Man Who Laughs trade paper backs.

11 of 10. fantastic.

Liked the set up at the end for "escalation" very much.

Failed and M0rph...


ahh. I see. Useful insight. I'm not up much on the comic side of the story. Thanks!

Then I have zero complaints..... :thumbsup:

I doubt that this series will have any connection whatsoever with the previous series. The previous series begins with Batman first appearing in Gotham and completely contradicts this version.

This is good, I think. Every once in a while, you need to reboot. Not every other year, like they seem to do with the Legion of Superheroes, but every 15 to 20 years for a movie franchise seems a good rule of thumb for me, especially when the first run started out mediocre and went downhill from there. The animated Mask of the Phantasm remains the best Batman movie for my money.

I also wondered a bit about the fight scenes. BUT then, I thought maybe it was deliberate: as part of his training. It makes sense.

The way they shot the fights worked in some cases, but not in others. When he was fighting Falcone's thugs after taking most of them out one by one it worked great to convey the sense of confusion that the thugs felt. All they saw was a blur of some bat-like creature and the audience saw the same thing.

The only time the quick cuts bugged me was when he was fighting more trained individuals, in those fights I would agree that a less chaotic feeling would have been better to show off the skills of the fighters.

Quite right! They're doing it with Bond, Superman, and a few more to come soon. Now seems a time to try and work out any kinks that made their way into epic film collections. What remains to be seen is if all the reduxs (is there a plural for redux?) do as well as Batman Begins. I hope I can enjoy Bond and Supes as much as I did Batman.

Saw it last night, and thought it was really good. My only complaints were the fight scenes (as has been said) and I thought that the voice while he was in the batsuit sounded forced a lot of the time. Beyond that, I enjoyed it terribly. Great movie.

I LOVED this movie like none other. I thought it was the best superhero movie I've ever seen. I loved how dark the film was, and how real the character was. It also explained a lot about where he got his fighting training which none of the other movies, as far as I can recall, even mention.

I was very skeptical about this movie considering the last batman movie was so horrible. And I have hard time accepting anyone else as Batman because of how well Michael Keaton portrayed the character.

Overall, I did enjoy this movie for what it was, and it made me want to go home and watch all of the other ones (besides Batman and Robin). It was nice to find out more of the story.

Things I didn't like:
Christain Bale's voice while he was Batman
Fight scenes (they didn't show enough)
The extremely long intro (basically, there also wasn't enough Batman)

I'd have to agree with not liking Christian Bale's voice when he was Batman, but other than that I thought the movie was very solid. IMO it was the best of the series.

Yeah talk about trying too hard. Sounded like he was trying to attract wolverines or something.

I agree with this wholeheartedly...

I saw this flick a few nights ago, and while I really enjoyed it, I had a few qualms with the movie.

I loved Christian Bale's performance as Bruce Wayne. I agree with what some have already said, however. When in the Batsuit, he over-acted. Is he trying to win an Oscar here? I just found his acting those scenes to be way over the top.

Overall, very good flick, Three Stars

Film of the year if you ask me, (and i'm sure you were) not only the film of year but also the only movie i've ever gone back to the cinema to see again. Wow, stunning direction from chris and pleasing proformances. loved it;.

Gonna have to see this movie now, big fan of the super hero genre (even tho most SH movies suck).

The voice while in the batsuit annoyed me too. Maybe he'll calm it down a bit in the future ones :)

Well, it's not like he could use his normal voice. He is trying to keep his identity afterall.

Just gonna spoiler tag the whole thing cause I'm lazy.

Spoiler: I thought the movie was great. Let me be the first to admit that I'm not very familiar with the comics at all. I've seen the movies, some cartoons, and the really old show when Batman wore a felt-costume and Robin had the "Holy super-pun, Batman!"

I'll say what I didn't like. Although I really liked the history of the man and his transformation, I had a hard time getting into the whole idea of a super-secret cult that has the power to bring down civilizations basically. From reading the posts here, I'm guessing this plot was in some of the books or comics or something and it's all fine~ that's cool. It's no worse than Arnold trying to freeze the whole city, but for a movie that did a good job of trying to make everything seem more "real", this was a little much for me.

I agree with what many already said about the fight scenes. Some were good because I think it emphasized the confusion and such that Wayne's training emphasized. But some also seemed sloppy.

I didn't notice the music in the movie AT ALL. So I guess I can't say that it sucked, but usually music enhances movies a lot. The Batman theme in the original was awesome and I would have liked something like that here.

As for his disgruntled voice when in the Batsuit... It didn't bother me. Maybe he was overdoing it some, but I just figured 1) he's trying to hide his identity and 2) he's trying to instill fear in his enemies. When he strings up that one crooked-cop and his grilling him, and he says "I swear to God", and Batman says "Swear to ME!!!"... Well I thought that was the sweetest part in the whole movie. Even I was like "Holy shit don't mess with that guy!"

On my first viewing of the film I barely noticed the score too, but on my second every note hit it home. I've since bought the OST and have to say it's one of the best scores I've ever heard... I'm so glad films are producing good scores again, it felt like we had hit a dry spot for a while.

Just saw this again on the weekend and I still think it's a triumph of a super-hero movie, but I will say that the "missile firing mode" in the batmobile was an obvious move to make the car cooler and sell more toys. With the rest of Batman's arsenal approaching the fringe of believability, this stuck out like a sore thumb.

I'm not easily impressed by superhero movies, but this one blew me away.
Christian Bale was great and the supporting cast was outstanding with the exception of Katie Holmes and that annoying little kid.
My only major complaint was the quick cuts during the action scenes which literally made me sick.
I'll look forward to the next one. Unlike other prospective trilogies, I get the feeling this one will improve as it goes along.

Saw it a few days ago.

It was pretty good. I liked most of it, but I'm pretty sick of the shaky-cam fights. I didn't like it in either of the Bourne movies and I didn't like it now.

It definitely redeemed the last few Batman travesties.

From Jackie Harvey's "Outside Source" column on The Onion:

"Item! Batman is back, and battier than before. Batman Again takes place years before the previous Batfilms, so Bruce Wayne doesn't look anything like George Clooney, and his nipples are smaller. Besides that, Liam Nissan reprises his role as the wizened guru Qui-Ginn from Star Wars. This crossover flick should have both films' fans running—or should I say flapping!—to the box office."
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I saw it again this past weekend. It's the first movie I've ever went back to the theatre to see. IMO it's that good. I MAY see it a third time before it leaves theatres. Extraordinary.

Spoiler:
I think my favorite scene was the first time we saw him in the complete outfit at the dock scene. He's just drug the mob boss out the top of his limo, says "nice jacket" to the homeless guy, then suddenly he and the boss go flying straight up. I think that is one of the cooler scenes. ever.

This post only proves that cinema snobs can't let go and enjoy pop culture. :rolleyes:




Finally saw the film last night and was very impressed. Definately the best live action Batman ever. I would say that it was pretty near note perfect in its storytelling.

I have to agree with the comments on fight scenes. My guess is that the approach was taken a) because the filmmakers liked the aesthetics; but more likely b) they had to hide some of the short comings of the costume.

Despite the costume being one of the best to date, I was still a little stiff in the cowl.



Spoiler: I also enjoyed the fact that they managed to incorporate two villians into the film and had it make sense. Scarecrow works for Ras al'Ghul in a logical fashion. It didn't just feel like we were piling on the villians so we could have another star in the picture (following the mantra that more is better).

I'm hoping that, like me, the producers and those responsible have unreasonably high standards for the costume. It seems that way, as they were keeping it off camera as much as possible and in the dark. Perhaps they'll improve it for the second installment?

Possibly the best one but I do enjoy the original (that is the non adam west original) and "returns". Hope this series stays as good as it is now because you know they'll make more of them

wow this movie was good.. like others thsi is one of the first movies i saw twice in the theatre. The 2nd time around cleared some stuff up like why did he go to attack mode in the "batmobile" again when he did not even fire anythign. Also his batman voice didnt bother me until like the end, i kinda thought it sounded like him jus a little harsher and others have pointed out that it "is" to hide his identity. Overall great movie!

fav line: "Gotham isnt beyond saving"
ahaha yea and that "swear to me" was pretty funny.

I loved the movie, it was so wicked. Afterwords I was wondering:

Spoiler: the microwave generator evaporates water, correct? people are a large percentage water, correct? Why didn't the microwave emittor boil these people? or the big river there?

other than that, I really had no other problems.

I thought this movie was brilliant, in fact I would have to say it is my favorite superhero movie.. and I almost always wait at least 6 months before such a pronouncement, but this movie was THAT good.

My wife who barely tolerates Sh movies, looooooved this one. She was leaning on the seat in front of her about ten minutes in.. a sure sign of boredom, I asked if she wanted to go see something else ( thinking she wasn't into it) and she turned to me with the look of a kid getting his best xmas gift ever and said ... "this is so fucking good!"

About Liam Neeson, I will say I was quite bitter about his role.... why couldn't Qui-Gonn have n=been this good a Jedi, much less a teacher?

After a very disappointing time seeing the new harry potter movie, we came home and popped in the Batman DVD that a friend had given us. We were so busy with wedding stuff we didnt get to see it in the theater and Dave had already watched it when he was home sick. He was begging me to watch it (Im not much in to comic book/superhero stuff)

I finally relented. WOW, I wanted to start the whole dvd over again when it was over. It reminded me of how I felt when I saw superman in the theater all those many moons ago.

Im a HUGE Liam Neeson fan (we are talking huge) and to see him play this character was a big big big treat for me.. Dave is a walking encyclopedia when it comes to comic book stuff (I bet he and Gilda would have some great conversations) so after the movie he explained this that and the other and what wasnt "right" about some things, but that they way they presented it, it "worked". I can honestly say that were there to be another one we'll be at the theater opening weekend to see it (Dave is really hoping it WILL be a joker movie, as thats his all time favorite character of all time lol)


Mogan Freeman, I would watch him do just about anything and this movie was no exception...he was just sooooo "him"

Gary Oldman is in my top 10 as well....he was awesome awesome awesome

Anyone who thinks they might not like this movie, needs to throw away EVERY conception they have of batman and anyother superhero movie and do themselves a favor and watch it.

oh and I thought the batmobile was kinda cool. Batman Begins was indeed a great title for this movie

I agree. For that matter Spoiler: the microwave emitter was set of on a boat. Boats are on water. The boat didn't suddenly drop onto a pit of steam. Was the microwave set on popcorn or something?

Focused beams....

Did he say that it was obvious to any comic fan that it was obvious from the beginning that

Spoiler: Liam Neeson was actually Ra's al Ghul and not Ken Watanabe? Any comic fan would know just by looking at them.

I'm hoping for a good Two-Face movie, maybe including a retelling of his origin. Did you know Two-Face was married before he was scarred? I forget his wife's name . . .

Gilda

yes Gilda, he launched into a whole explanation about it (which kinda ruined that part for me being a non comic fan lol) He also explained what was not "right" about Ra's role in this movie. I have to admit I dont understand it all because I've never been a comic fan but he sure was all fired up about it lol

Hahaha!

Now that's funny. Good one, Gilda.

For those not in the know, Harvey Dent's ex-wife was Gilda Dent.

I'm not much of a comic book fan, but Liam looked a lot like Ducard was drawn in the comic books. Of course, the Ducard and Ra's characters were combined for the sake of the storyline in Batman Begins. They are different people in the comic book.

Sorry to wake this thread back up, but on the advice I received in the Dark Knight thread, I just watched Batman Begins before I hit the movie theater next week.

The Liam Neeson character kept reminding me of somebody. Finally, I realized that I've been watching too much porn.

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Tommy Gunn.