The Passion
 

I'm surprised that there isn't already a thread about this, considering the huge amount of media hype surrounding the Mel Gibson-directed movie.

I had the displeasure of seeing bits of Diane Sawyer's interview with Gibson, which was absolute nonsense. Though I am not a Christian, I plan to see the movie when it is released.

I will watch the movie to see what the fuss is about. I don't believe that it will be as big of a deal as eveyone is making it out to be, but then again I'm not a religious person so maybe it means different things to different people. Never saw the Primetime interview it didn't make it into my viewing schedule. I think people are just to sensetive in this day and age and they need to understand that this is one persons interpretation of what happened (at least that's what I saw Gibson say in a trailer to the interview) and it's a movie who cares they protested Dogma and it still came out so all the hype will do is set records.

I plan on seeing it, gibson is one of my favorite figures in movieland. I wanna see what all the fuss is about.

The Big Question is how much was Gibson in Braveheart mode when he directed it. From the clips and pictures I've seen it looks pretty gruesome as far as the scenes where they beat and then crucify Christ.

I know Gibson is going for realism but I'm not used to seeing Christ covered in his own blood from head to toe.

Should be an interesting film... I heard that it's all in Aramaic, and only certain scenes are subtitled. Like I said.. should be interesting.

yeah i'll definately be there opening night to see this. it looks amazing and I commend Gibson for taking this huge risk. But I coulda sworn that there was in fact a thread already about this. I could be wrong though. But yeah, I knew his father was insane but dang, he REALLY IS insane. Did you hear what his father believed was the cause of 9/11? LMAO he needs to stop. haha.

But anyways, the first trailer that was released last year gave me absolute CHILLS and I was just really moved by it. I have to go see it. But I'm afraid some moron kids will be in the theater being punk asses and I'll have to be kicked out of the theater after kicking their behinds. heh. But yeah, should be good.

I felt the exact same way - I will be seeing this, if I can find a theater that isn't sold out, that is.

I think seeing the scourging and crucifixion of Christ portrayed as realistically as possible will only strengthen those of faith.

I've been reading about this film for a loooong time, and I have every intention of seeing it next weekend. I'm fascinated by religions...The Last Temptation of Christ is one of my favourites.

The more I read about this film...the more I get pissed off. I read the other day where Gibson declared that all Protestants are going to hell, including his own wife. What a tolerant guy...*sigh*

They showed us the preview in church Sunday. Our congregation is also renting out 2 theaters to see it, so I plan on going. I just want to see what all the hype is about if nothing else.

book's better

I read it's in Aramaic and Latin (I seem to remember a third language mentioned....) and it's all subtitled. He didn't do it in English because they didn't speak English. He wanted to retain authenticity.

Here's the link
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4224452/
Here's the quote; take it how you will.
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I don't think he was speaking from the pulpit or waving a Bible and pronouncing judgment. I just think, right or wrong, he's embraced his faith completely.


As for the movie....Anything that gets this many folks' underwear in a bunch deserves a screening.

Always is.

i didn't see the Last Temptation of Jesus Christ and I don't think that I'll see this one.

Not that I'm biased for religious reasons, but I just feel there's more out there than these subjects.

if anything maybe it will show up on my netflix listing.

The guy that played Jesus in this movie (The Passion..) got struck by lightning twice while on the set, no joke. Maybe some higher being was trying to tell him something :)

He made the joke himself. "I guess He didn't like that take, huh?" or something like that.

Hebrew



this movie should be amazing, i cant wait to see it this friday

^if hebrew is the same as aramaic and latin then sure. but guthmund was right, it's aramaic and latin. and gibson didn't even want any subtitles at first which made it even harder to sell it to studios. he was finally talked into adding subtitles.

When was the last time you saw 'christ' covered in blood? Let alone saw? :confused: :D

haha I was thinking the same thing :)

Not much of a risk since he's already made millions. If he gets backlash and never allowed to direct, write or star in a movie again, it's not like he will starve.

Scourging (flogging; whipping) was an integral part of the crucifixion process - only women, Roman senators, and (non-deserters) soldiers were exempt. Its functions were to intimidate through terror, and also to physically hasten the prisoner on the road to death by way of shock and blood loss. Leather whips using metal balls and bone chips literally ripped the skin to shreds - there's no way to show that realistically without a lot of blood.
Gruesome, but historically accurate.
It was a messy, agonizing way to die.

I read that lightning thing in the paper the other day, laughed my ass off. If I had been him, I would have taken it as a message from above and left, contract be damned! lol ;)

I heard that Mel Gibson's father is a serious anti-semite and belongs to some really hardline catholic sect. I wont go and see it, since everyone keeps saying it is anti-semitic.

i cant wait to see this movie. its going to be a great movie no matter what the politicians say. cant wait!!

Wouldn't you rather find out for yourself instead of just believing what others are saying?

Munk

To be honest, these dont seem like the sort of people I am interesting in helping to get richer.

http://www.boston.com/ae/movies/arti...ostly_fiction/

Common Strange Famous, do you do background checks on the writer's family of every film or book you get involved with? :p

I think that this was dug up by people that want this movie to fail, and I see no relevance on what his father has said and how it has anything to do with this film.

As for this quote:
Someone of German descent could have taken the same mindset on the movie Schindlers List and say that it could fuel anti German views. Yes its a silly analogy but one that is consistant with the article you presented. Like it or not, these things happened and they will forever be in the history books. Making movies about events such as these are to educate the ignorant, not to cast stones at anybody of the present.

That being said, I really want to see this movie especially since it has brought such strong opinions even before it has been released.

Ile see it. Though I am also not Christian. It will be interesting to see how Gibson shows some of the scenes. If he get's them all right, I heard that he messed up on nailing Jesus to the cross. He showed Jesus' hands being nailed to the cross, when in reality only the wrists could fully support his weight.

I watched Ebert and Roepert tonight. They gave a very favorable review of the film. They said not only was it brilliantly made and portrayed, but everybody who is yipping this "It's anti-semitical" business won't have a leg to stand on once they see it.

I don't know if you'd call Gibson depicting the crucifixion with Jesus' hands being pierced "messing up." I'm aware of the traditional method in which the Romans crucified others (through the wrists), but in the Bible it describes the wounds in Jesus' hands, not his wrists:

John 20:25
So the other disciples told him, "We have seen the Lord!"
But he said to them, "Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe it."

Gibson protrayed it the way it was written.

He didnt die on the cross. Somone took his place :>

On a serious note,

I wanna see this film today :> Looks really good and moving. And remember folks. Its a MOVIE!!!

Have fun and enjoy it.

Don't you mean Schindlers List? :confused:

As for this movie, i'd like to see it. Albeit hope it doesn't suffer from some of the hype side-effects other movies have suffered from :(

Ugghh... Learn something new everyday, I guess - Thanks.

I like to formulate my own opinions on movies, so I will be watching it when it comes out...

oops, ya i did. I will change that, thanks :)

I saw the movie today, it's a pretty awesome flick, and an emotional two hours. I am Catholic, so I don't know how much of that plays into my opinion.

The movie is all in Aramaic and Latin, and for the most part is subtitled, there is quite a lot of dialouge that isn't.

There may be things that are considered "historically inaccurate", but as fhqwhgads said, it was not taken from what is said to be historical references, but taken from what was said in the bible.

The violence portrayed in the scourging and the crucifiction are unreal, and at times are hard to watch. Though emotional, I thought it was good to see these acts depicted as true to life as possible. I think people tend to not think of how savage the death of Christ was, and only think of all the good that resulted once he rose from the dead. These scenes helped me truly appreciate the suffering Christ went though for our salvation.

On a happier note there are a few feel-good scenes scattered throughout the movie when he reflects on different parts of his life, like a scene showing the interaction between him and his mother, that help relieve some of the emotional tension.

All in all, the movie was really good, and I did not see any of the"severe anti-Semitism" that was supposed to be in the movie. The only evidence I could see that one might view as anti-Semitic, was how ruthless Caiphus, and other high priests were portrayed.

What the hell is up with these anti-sametic accusation about the movie? I skim the article and this is what I read:

“Some Jewish leaders say the movie could fuel anti-Semitism for its portrayal of Jews' role in the crucifixion”

Not the first time I saw this line. Has every one gone apeshit?

Last time I checked the people who had a hand in the death of Jesus were infact Jewish. The priests from the temple pressed a hesitant Pilate to crucify the man. Lets not forget that the man happened to be a Jew as well. But the real question is. Why does it fucking matter that they Hebrew? If Russians spawned Stalin are all Russian evil? If Germans spawned Hitler should they all be condemned? If America spawned Bush are we the harbingers of doom? Is there any country in this world that didn’t spawn some sort of monster of a human being? Should we kill the whole human race because a few among us have done terrible things?

I feel such contempt for these monkeybrian PC robots who mindlessly attack everything within their sights under the banner of “protecting society from bigotry”. It’s bullshit. They accuse Gibson’s father of denying the vastness of the holocaust yet in the same movement deny truth behind the teachings of one of the worlds top religions. (For the idiots out there) I am not defending Gibson's father I merely pointing that not only are these PC loonies trying to defend us from truth but they are hypocrites as well and are no better then a white supremacist anti-Semite.

The Crucifixion was all done on a sound stage in Hollywood.

/sarcasm

I think this was Gibson's reason for making the film - we're so far removed from that period that I think he wanted us to remember that God didn't just "beam him up."

On the subject of the languages it is presented in, I was wondering how many people will be disappointed that it is not in English? A lot of hoopla has preceded this film and it is expected to draw large crowds when it is released. However, the fact that it is not in English could cause a lot of people to leave early, not seeing the whole film, simply because of the distraction of the subtitles, and sitting there wondering,"What did he say". I have seen a lot of foreign films (with subtitles) and if you can't figure out the premis of the scene, you quickly lose interest. Most if not all people who will see the film know the story but need the language to keep up with what is going on, on the screen.
Time will tell if this is Blockbuster or a flop.