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warrrreagl · 03-15-2005, 10:03 AM

I agree with Grancey. American Idol doesn't have an iron-clad hold on contestants after they leave the show, or else Tamyra Gray wouldn't have started appearing on non-FOX TV shows.

K-Wise · 03-15-2005, 04:53 PM

^ I'm just going by other performers who were on the show last year that could not do anything with anyone other than American Idol because they were bound by contract. I even saw a T.V. show about Reality T.V. do a segment on it where Ryan Seacrests old co-host that they had on the first season actually said "You just don't realize it. I mean they OWN these kids."

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ShaniFaye · 03-15-2005, 05:55 PM

Ok....Bo was def the best one tonite.....nikko wasnt too bad either

K-Wise · 03-15-2005, 06:35 PM

Yeah Bo did great. Much to my surprise Constantine also did great tonight! He sang like I remembered him being able to sing when he went to Hollywood. I could actually hear his tone again. Wasn't the best performance of the night but definitely his best performance. I like him singing those type of songs. It shows his true abilities. Anwar did great. I don't care what they say...he's a guy who knows his voice and picks songs that compliment it. They just don't understand that. Other than them I thought Nadia did great and Vonzell..hmm The only ones that did bad were Lindsey, Mikalah wasn't TOO good or Federov.

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Grancey · 03-15-2005, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by K-Wise

^ I'm just going by other performers who were on the show last year that could not do anything with anyone other than American Idol because they were bound by contract. I even saw a T.V. show about Reality T.V. do a segment on it where Ryan Seacrests old co-host that they had on the first season actually said "You just don't realize it. I mean they OWN these kids."

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I've read that the contestants are bound for three months by contract after the finale airs. So, if Mario is not in the final twelve I wonder if he is bound for three months or not.

K-Wise · 03-15-2005, 06:48 PM

Hmm dunno. Technically he made it...he just turned it down..confusing

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Lockjaw · 03-15-2005, 09:07 PM

How did Anwar do? I fell asleep before the show came on and I woke up when the chick with the fro was on.

And yes Bo was quite good. I definately have him penned for top three. And that blonde country chick was good too. Actually all the people I saw were fantastic except Niko. Sorry but he just doesn't have the skills. I wish he did because he has a nice style about him but I just ain't feeling it. He was a little "pitchy"

j/k.

But back to what I was saying I wonder if American Idol will take this season as a chance to "reinvent" themselves a bit. With talents like Bo being a DEFINATE good rocker and that country chick being a wonderful country voice I wonder even if they lose to a more pop/R&B type singer if they won't package those folks singularly and target those audiences specifically.
I kind of suspect they might considering that while Fantasia hasn't been pushed big to the major market her album gets pretty decent play on Urban stations. They could effectively triple their profits every year by taking the more unconventional people and market them appropriately. Frankly if Bo didn't win and they put him with a good backing group I'd buy his stuff.

K-Wise · 03-16-2005, 04:32 AM

They didn't think Anwar brought it to the table but he did. He sang great he's very consistent...if he won I'd be just fine with that. My mom thinks he's super handsome too haha. He did have on some pimp ass clothes. I could never pull off some shit like that. I think Paula's got the hots for him.

I don't doubt Bo and Carrie will be marketted as well. If Bo DOESN'T win..he'll be second place to someone...and they always market second place anyway. Sometimes they do even better...look at Clay? He took off...Ruben..didn't. It'd be FUCKIN GREAT if Bo could win this year cause that would break the fuckin 3 year streak of nothing but R&B/Soul/Gospel singers being our "American Idols" Those aren't the only types of vocalists out there and with Mario gone Bo doesn't really have too many people to worry about. Carrie is good but she's not consistent...I really only liked her first performance a LOT the rest I could do without(People DO love her anyway but not anymore than they love Bo). Anwar could give him a run but he has to let loose some more. Nadia is probably his biggest threat. As for the rest of them...they don't really touch him.

I do like Scott a lot though. I kinda worry for him because nobody seems to acknowledge him at all other than me on this board lol. I'm begining to think he's forgetful but he hasn't had ONE bad performance yet. I'm starting to realize why he seems to be forgetful. He sings the songs like they're sung...he sings them pretty much spot on every time. He doesn't go for big notes like everyone else does. I swear people only remember the people who shout out a note at the end of their performance...Scott doesn't do that. But then again..he doesn't need to...to me thats just theatrics. If there is a big note at the end okay but if there isn't yer just trying to show off. Seems like everyone else is afraid to end on a soft note. Most of my favorite songs end on a soft note.

I love Bo but as far as the original Spinning Wheel goes...his wasn't as good. It was good for AI though...don't get me wrong..he did rock it out there I'm just saying haha don't shoot me or anything.

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Lockjaw · 03-16-2005, 03:06 PM

Well I think the average person just listening thinks the R&B/Gospel/Soul singer as a general rule sound better and more impressive. That's not always true but when you can listen to some "rockers" do nothing more than scream and sing off tune I don't think you'd have to many people gravitating to a person from that mold even if they really CAN sing well.

But the reason why I think they might market the country chick if say she does make it to the top 3 is because you will have a battle of styles, R&B,rock, and country and all of those markets are fairly substantial and could easily support another singer of that caliber.
The R&B person could easily survive on the Top 40,Urban, and some adult contemporary stations.
The rocker(Bo because let's face it Constantine will not make it to the top 7) will make do on rock stations with the right backing,and maybe some sparse play on Top 40 here and there.
The country singer could be promoted essentially in a vaccum because a lot of country music happens in a very isolated manner and unless it's just HUGE it rarely spills over into the mainstream consciousness. I mean not many people who aren't country fans will even know who folks like Big and Rich,Kenney Chesney,or Keith Urban are. Yet those are huge names in the country market. They could sign produce and moderately push that girl in the country circles and since she had already been exposed to the national market at some point if she gets big she won't be a total unknown and would be more likely to get play on adult contemporary, and top 40 stations as well.
Sounds like a good plan to me

K-Wise · 03-16-2005, 03:32 PM

^ It could work.

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thales · 03-22-2005, 08:55 AM

Prediction time...

Last week Jessica, Mikalah, and Lindsey were the bottom-three vote getters and Lindsey got the axe. This week I'm guessing that the legion of tone deaf Mikalah fans will do everything they can to keep her out of the bottom three this week. Jessica will remain there merely because, despite having a great voice, she has zero personality and an equal amount of stage presence (and her proclivity for honky-tonk style country/rock will get her nowhere fast). So which two will join her on the stage? Nikko and Constantine...or Vonzell.

I think it is likely that Nikko's fans, who voted in force for him last week knowing full well that if they didn't he would be out, will not call in (or text message) this week...especially since he was not in the bottom three last week.

Constantine: I believe last week's surprisingly good performance was an abberation and this week we will likely see the return of the Constantine we know and put up with. That said, last week's performance has me very unsure about including him in the bottom three...

Therefore, I am also including an alternate: Vonzell. Yeah. I know she can sing, but she's no star. Let's put it this way, Anwar, Bo, Carrie, Nadia and Scott are safe. "Trachea boy" Federov has the tweenies eating out of the prepubescent palm of his hand and, as a result, is safe. That leaves Vonzell as the best alternate. She has had some "off" nights and tonight could be another.

Therefore...

Bottom three: Jessica, Nikko and Constantine
Alternate bottom three (assuming Constantine repeats last week's quality performance): Jessica, NIkko and Vonzell
Either way...Jessica Sierra gets the boot tomorrow night.

K-Wise · 03-22-2005, 05:45 PM

^ Shouldn't you at least wait until the shows over before making predictions? I only say this because sometimes this shit is unpredictable. Some of them got 2 or 3 or 4 bad performances before they finally got the boot and others got ONE! Now that it's the big show it's kinda hard to tell. I really do hope you're right and either Jessica or Mikalah get the boot this week. I really hope Jessica isn't the Diana Degarmo of this year..grrr.

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Sensei · 03-23-2005, 12:36 AM

The frickin geniouses coudlnt' figure out how to convert letters to numbers on a phone. The biggest error since Nikki McKibbin mysteriously made the Top 3.

‘American Idol’ gives wrong numbers
Show to be rebroadcast Wednesday for new vote
By Gael Fashingbauer Cooper
MSNBC
Updated: 2:44 a.m. ET March 23, 2005

"American Idol" displayed incorrect phone numbers for three singers after Tuesday night's edition of the Fox show aired. At least one reality TV fan Web site, TVgasm.com, has announced that the network will reair the program Wednesday night, with the results show moved to Thursday.

Screen captures of the episode show that incorrect phone numbers were listed for contestants Anwar Robinson, Mikalah Gordon, and Jessica Sierra. The phone numbers are always listed twice for each contestant, once as a number and once in a kind of shorthand, incorporating the letters on the phone that spell out IDOLS.

For Robinson, Gordon and Sierra, the numbers spelled out using letters were correct, but the complete phone numbers printed below those numbers were incorrect. Viewers who called the second numbers intending to vote for Robinson, Gordon or Sierra would be instead casting votes for contestants Anthony Fedorov, Carrie Underwood or Scott Savol.

The errors were not corrected before the show aired on the West Coast.

At press time, it was not clear if all votes from Tuesday night would be thrown out or if the show would add those votes to the calls received after the show re-airs Wednesday.

"American Idol" has not been free from controversy in the past. Earlier this month, finalist Mario Vazquez abruptly dropped out of the competition, citing "personal reasons." He was replaced by Nikko Smith. And last season, so many viewers complained that they could not get through on Fox's phone lines to vote that the network was forced to add more lines and extend the voting period.

ShaniFaye · 03-23-2005, 04:11 AM

They are doing a live show tonite with the performers doing encores....all votes from last nite are being thrown out and the revote will take place tonite

damn it....Survivor is on tonite because of basketball.....

thales · 03-23-2005, 01:57 PM

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Shouldn't you at least wait until the shows over before making predictions? I only say this because sometimes this shit is unpredictable. Some of them got 2 or 3 or 4 bad performances before they finally got the boot and others got ONE! Now that it's the big show it's kinda hard to tell. I really do hope you're right and either Jessica or Mikalah get the boot this week. I really hope Jessica isn't the Diana Degarmo of this year..grrr.

But THAT'S no fun...

I enjoy the show as a political exercise first and a talent show second. I say "a political exercise" because there are voting blocks that have fluid elements each week. I firmly believe that the people that voted last week for Nikko Smith did so because his performance was awful but they wanted to keep him around because they liked him. As a result votes were likely pulled off of those who were deemed "safe".

Likewise, Lindsey Cardinale got voted off because she didn't get similar support peeled off of others because of a weak personality (and a relative lack of airtime during the taped shows - if Simon thinks that's not a factor in early voting he is a huge fucking dumbass).

The best thing about the show is trying to determine the consequences when someone with a dedicated voting block gets voted off. Where does that person's votes go to in subsequent ballots? (This becomes more interesting when you get down to 5 or less people). It will likely be incredibly interesting this year since the styles between the final four will possibly be significantly different from each other.

For example (and this is an unlikely example), if you have Anwar, Bo, Carrie and Nadia as the final four...and Anwar gets voted off, where do his votes go? Probably Nadia. If Bo was the top vote getter with four contestants, then he likely drops to second place with three.

Now if Nadia gets voted off in the same scenario, I would bet her votes get split between Anwar and Carrie. Bo may go from top vote getter with four contestants to third out of three.

That said, based on last night's performances, my predictions were crap. Makalah has got to go. She just plain cannot sing. She shouldn't have been in the semis, much less the finals. God I hate that she's still there. But I still believe her voting bloc is strong enough to keep her in this thing (and it will be helped if Simon says something tonight like "you should have been voted off based on last night's performance, you had a second chance and you blew it"). That will really help Mikalah get the votes out.

Based on last night's performances, who should have been in the bottom three? Makalah, Nadia Turner and Either Anthony Federov or Scott Savol. I have no clue who would have gone.

That everyone gets a second chance tonight blows the whole thing wide open. If Vonzell and Constantine kill again tonight (I thought they both sounded fantastic), they'll be safe. If Scott Savol rebounds from last night's performance, hell be safe. If Nadia Turner still sucks, she will definitely be in the bottom three...hell I bet she goes bottom three regardless (she doesn't understand that the reason Cindy Lauper was so popular was not her style but the fact that the woman has a great set of pipes on her).

My new bottom three prediction: Nadia Turner, Jessica Sierra (Total Eclipse of the Heart...what an awful song) and Nikko. Nadia replaces the Constantine/Vonzell possibility in my original prediction. I still think Jessica gets the boot. In order to survive, you have to have a personality that people can relate to or desire to emulate. She has neither.

ShaniFaye · 03-23-2005, 04:26 PM

ok.....like I said earlier....I taped last nites show....I just watched it

first....the number screw ups...what they did was put the wrong ending digits on the last three when they put the number up at the end

for example
1-866- IDOLS 09
-866-43657 01

text vote to 5709

so it was the number "spelled" out in digits was wrong on the last 3

2nd...Bo did one of my most favorite songs in the world...and one Im considering for the wedding....Jim Croce's Time in a Bottle....hands down its the best version I've heard done since Croce himself

Constantine did an outstanding version of David Cassidy's I think I love you....I've heard David do that song live and Constantine nailed it

Jessica gave me shivers with her Total Eclipse of the Heart

Carrie did great with the Heart song Alone

Nadia ruined Time after Time...Mikalah murdered her song, Scott wasnt bad-just dont impressive...Federov...not impressed one bit...Anwar...flat....Nikko was 5th on my list after Carrie...Vonzell I dont ever remember

Bottom 3 in my opinion Vonzell, Anwar, Mikalah

K-Wise · 03-23-2005, 06:01 PM

See I don't think Jessica and Carrie have a good enough tone to have taken on those songs. The low notes at the begining of Alone were pretty bad. And the high notes were barely there. Jessica I didn't think she sounded good at all save for towards the end. But I give them props because they were REALLY hard songs to sing. Fact of the matter is though they were pretty lackluster compared to the actual songs themselves. I think people forgot what the originals sounded like the whole night.

To me the ones who actually did good that night were Vonzell(She did terrific but she does try to hard with the runs), Bo, Constantine was actually good lol, and the rest I could probably do without. I like Scott though. He has a great voice. His performance wasn't the best but he sang his heart out on that one and put everything he had into it.

I hope Scott isn't the one to go home. That would really suck for me. I want him to stay in there a little longer. I know he won't win but you know. Well gotta go watch it.

EDIT: Okay I'm happy and mad right now. I think I've tried like 30 freakin times to vote for Scott now and I still can't get through

This a good thing. You don't like him? Sue me! He deserves to stay way more than Mikalah AND Federov! :-)~

EDIT #2: Finally I fuckin get in! Votes for Scott now accounted for <font size=1>5 of them..for now..more later</font>

Asta!!

Grancey · 03-25-2005, 07:24 AM

Mikalah, Mikalah........ What happened to this poor girl? Who told her that she should be serious and stiff instead of the fun-loving light personality from the auditions? She was never one of my favorites, but it is apparent that someone told her to change her style. That someone is an idiot.

K-Wise · 03-25-2005, 01:39 PM

Well save for Nadia Thales was pretty wrong this time around haha. Of the people left I honestly don't know who will go home next. I'd hope it's Jessica but for some reason they actually like her and her voice. Federov can go now he hasn't been impressing me at all as of late. Nikko is fairly good as is Anwar but they both lack consistency. Hmm the rest I don't really have too much of a problem with.

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darkangel · 03-27-2005, 03:32 AM

Ah American Idol, I've been watching this from the very first episode of Season 1.

My opinions on this season: I can't STAND Constantine. Maybe it's because I'm a rocker chick, but he just seems.. fake. I really want him to go.

Of course, Bo is the man! He probably won't win, but I like him. I also like Nadia because she's different.

My $0.02.

K-Wise · 03-27-2005, 07:05 PM

^ The funny thing about Const is I like his voice best when he's NOT singing rock. When he sang "You've made me so very happy." I thought he did great. It's not rock...I kinda think guy may be in the wrong genre lol.

I think your 2 cents add up.

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warrrreagl · 03-27-2005, 07:22 PM

When did Blood, Sweat, and Tears get re-classified as non-rock?

K-Wise · 03-27-2005, 07:28 PM

^ Touche

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darkangel · 03-27-2005, 07:35 PM

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^ The funny thing about Const is I like his voice best when he's NOT singing rock. When he sang "You've made me so very happy." I thought he did great. It's not rock...I kinda think guy may be in the wrong genre lol.

I think your 2 cents add up.

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That might be true, but everytime he looks into the camera.. *shudder* I don't even hear his voice because I'm frantically leaping for the remote to get him off my screen

K-Wise · 03-28-2005, 02:17 AM

^ Ouch! haha

In other news I read in the paper yesterday that there are rumors that Mario may have left AI to sign with Sean "P. Diddy" Combs. Puff refused to comment on it and Mario as well for fear of being held to his contract. I'd hate to see Mario go to Puffy cause I don't really respect what Puff does at all and he'd prolly ruin him for me but Mario would prolly be gettin paid buku bucks! Beleeh dat yo! Can't be too long before we see it. I think they're individual contracts are for like 3 months or some shit like that.

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thales · 03-28-2005, 09:09 AM

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Well save for Nadia Thales was pretty wrong this time around

Man I know...what a bust.

I can't say I wasn't happy though. The three worst singers were in the bottom three and the worst was voted off the show. I wish they could have retroactively voted her out of the final twelve.

Nadia did suck, but the thing I hated most about the show was the indication that being in the bottom three was primarily a result of her get-up (the mohawk, etc...). It was a result of the fact that she can't sing. She's ok within a certain tiny range and she was forced to go out of her range last week.

I've always thought Federov was over-rated, I just thought the tweenies would keep him around a little longer. I wonder if Constantine going the teen-idol route ("I Think I Love You") took some votes away from an already weak Federov.

While I only went one for three last week(which I probably could have matched with a random drawing), I was happy. The voting audience sometimes votes for among lines of popularity and sometimes votes on the lines of quality. This week was a quality week.

Sure, there are some singers like Constantine who may not be a better overall singer than Federov or Nadia, but he was objectively much better than either of them this week.

Anyway, while my guesses may have sucked, remember...they were made before the performances. I'm not making excuses, just clarifying...

This week? Well, the worst singers left are Federov, Nadia, Constantine and Nikko. I'm going to guess that the one with the best performance will be safe and the other three will be in the bottom three. Without knowing the theme, I have no clue who the best would likely be.

Constantine has had a couple of very strong weeks...he may falter this time. I think Nadia may not sleep this week while working on her song. I think Federov sucks...he'll likely be in the botton three. Nikko...I think Nikko is the most overrated of those that are left. I'm not saying he's the worst, I'm just saying Randy and Paula's gushing after last week's performance was incomprehensible. Hell, he was off-key about 80 percent of the time.

By the way...does anyone here know how to find out what the theme of the show will be?

K-Wise · 03-28-2005, 02:55 PM

^ Yeah I got Ryan on speedial hold on gimme a minute.....Okay even he doesn't know!

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That might be true, but everytime he looks into the camera.. *shudder* I don't even hear his voice because I'm frantically leaping for the remote to get him off my screen

Ya know I just realized something. Don't you guys have your very own "Canadian Idol" down there?

And you're watching ours?

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darkangel · 03-28-2005, 03:21 PM

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Ya know I just realized something. Don't you guys have your very own "Canadian Idol" down there?

And you're watching ours?

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Don't even get me started on Canadian Idol.. I don't even watch it, it's horrible beyond comprehension

mrklixx · 03-28-2005, 03:35 PM

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Nadia did suck, but the thing I hated most about the show was the indication that being in the bottom three was primarily a result of her get-up (the mohawk, etc...). It was a result of the fact that she can't sing. She's ok within a certain tiny range and she was forced to go out of her range last week.

Not that it matters, but not everyone agrees with you.

K-Wise · 03-28-2005, 03:45 PM

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Don't even get me started on Canadian Idol.. I don't even watch it, it's horrible beyond comprehension

I remember they had the Canadian Idol on the show last year in the audience. From what I remember dude had a style like T.O.K. Slightly spikey hair, black plastic frames...shit like that. And then they had the "Australian Idol" come up and sing some song I think "Angels Brought You Here" or something like that. I was pretty blown away by that guys voice though. He may have even sang better than our very own. He did perform "Crazy In Love" on their show though

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thales · 03-29-2005, 09:50 AM

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Not that it matters, but not everyone agrees with you.

Not agree with me? Not agree with ME??!?!? I'm SHOCKED. SHOCKED I say!

If everyone agreed with me, American Idol would be a one week show. In other words, if everyone voted for Bo in week one, then everyone else (all tied for last with zero votes) gets booted. That would be a very crappy show indeed.

Tell me I'm wrong. Tell me why I'm wrong. Are my predictions crap? Cool. Let me know why you think so. Rage against my bravado. I embrace the conflict. I love the range of opinions. Vive la difference!

What did you not agree with in my statement? Did you think there was a backlash against her mohawk? Do you think she can sing better than most of the remaining 10 contestants? That she has a wider range than I believe her to have? Do you think she actually sang in tune last week? All of the above? Speak man! Speak! This is a democracy. Embrace it! Embrace all that is "American" in "American Idol".

K-Wise · 03-29-2005, 07:39 PM

I really think Paula is in love with Anwar. She has a complete bias when concerning him. That guy can do no wrong in her eyes. And was I the only one who noticed she looked rather drowsy or stoned or something tonight. The way she was acting, the way she loved everybody and her eyes were a bit lazy I dunno just something about her tonight. Weird.

Constantine did great, and Vonzell really suprised me tonight too. Federov I didn't care for at all. And as much as I hate to say it, Scott wasn't very on tonight either. If he goes I suppose i can see why this time around he was one of the weakest. I'd rather it be Federov though but it probably won't be. As for the rest of them well you got 2 or 3 that always do good it's a give in and the rest didn't do too bad at all.

EDIT: Does anyone know what songs all these guys were singing tonight? I mean I recognized most of them. Martina, Brian, Elton, Whitney but the rest I'm not so sure. I believe my mom told me that Const sang a Bonnie Raitt song and I know I've heard what Bo sang I think it's Black Crowes but I'm not sure I didn't catch that(Ah nevermind just saw it!)...was I just not paying attention or did they not show what songs they were singing this time around?

Asta!!

thales · 03-29-2005, 08:16 PM

I think Federov was the weakest tonight and deserves to go home - the first of the guys to do so. The bottom three should be rounded out by Nadia (she was much much better this week, but still bottom three) and either Scott "Serial Killer" Savol or Jessica Sierra. I would prefer that Jessica was in the bottom three, but the judges seemed to prefer her to Scott a bit tonight (a close call that...maybe it's just me).

Nikko was surprisingly good tonight and Constantine, after a consistently weak semi finals, is now three for three since the finals began. If he could just conquer his faux rock star persona and come across as a bit more genuine, he may have something going.

And damn, Vonzell is really getting better every week. Bo and Carrie better watch out...they got some competition in that sweet little package.

mrklixx · 03-29-2005, 09:55 PM

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Not agree with me? Not agree with ME??!?!? I'm SHOCKED. SHOCKED I say!

If everyone agreed with me, American Idol would be a one week show. In other words, if everyone voted for Bo in week one, then everyone else (all tied for last with zero votes) gets booted. That would be a very crappy show indeed.

Tell me I'm wrong. Tell me why I'm wrong. Are my predictions crap? Cool. Let me know why you think so. Rage against my bravado. I embrace the conflict. I love the range of opinions. Vive la difference!

What did you not agree with in my statement? Did you think there was a backlash against her Mohawk? Do you think she can sing better than most of the remaining 10 contestants? That she has a wider range than I believe her to have? Do you think she actually sang in tune last week? All of the above? Speak man! Speak! This is a democracy. Embrace it! Embrace all that is "American" in "American Idol".

Your comments are a little surprising, I will admit. I said what I did because it seemed like your commentary was like so many other people's posts in the Entertainment and Music forums, in that they are superlative laced, and presented as "fact" rather than "opinion". To me "So and So can't sing" is completely different than "I don't like the way so and so sings"

As far as Nadia goes, I think she is one of the top three performers of the bunch. Not necessarily the best vocalist, but overall total package. To me, other than Bo and maybe now Vonzell, Nadia is the only one who seems comfortable on the stage. And I think that the mowhawk was one of the ballsiest moves of any of the AI seasons, and just proved to me that she is going to be who she wants to be, rather than who she thinks pepole want her to be.

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And was I the only one who noticed she looked rather drowsy or stoned or something tonight. The way she was acting, the way she loved everybody and her eyes were a bit lazy I dunno just something about her tonight

You are not the only one. It definitly seemed like she was on something. Her eyes were all glassy, and any second I expected her to say something like "look at the pretty colors"

darkangel · 03-29-2005, 10:37 PM

I've always stated, that I'm praying on my knees for Constantine to get off the stage lol He gets worse to me every week. I just can't stand him.

My fav picks are: Bo (Though weaker this week), Nadia (Better this week), Carrie (Star quality), and Vonzel (Diva).

ShaniFaye · 03-30-2005, 04:24 AM

I have to agree with ei555's picks....I dont want to see constantine go though....I didnt like the song he did last nite....but he sang it very well...best performance so for IMO. I was pleasantly surprised with Vonzel. I thought Nadia sang the hell out of her song. And yeah, Bo was weaker this week, but he still got my vote

warrrreagl · 03-30-2005, 05:12 AM

We've got entire threads here on wtf is wrong with Paula Abdul. She's always drunk. There were times last season when she was Farrah-on-Letterman wacked out.

The favorites in our household are Bo, Constantine, Carrie, and Anthony. My wife votes like crazy after the show, but I don't know if she's voting for all her favorites or just some of them. I do know, however, that she always has a hard time getting through to Bo's number, so it must be busy a lot.

Nadia seems to have an imaginary friend standing on stage right, because she has an annoying habit of singing a line and then smiling off to her right. Jessica reminds us too much of Tori Spelling. Scott is just plain gross, and it has nothing to do with his weight. Ruben was heavy, but cuddly. Scott is NOT cuddly; he looks like he doesn't bathe, and I thought he gave the weakest performance of the night. I thought Antwan would have been stronger by now, but he seems to be getting worse. Nikko is out of his league, and he's started to play the Daddy card. No thoughts yet on Vonzell.

thales · 03-30-2005, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by mrklixx

Your comments are a little surprising, I will admit. I said what I did because it seemed like your commentary was like so many other people's posts in the Entertainment and Music forums, in that they are superlative laced, and presented as "fact" rather than "opinion". To me "So and So can't sing" is completely different than "I don't like the way so and so sings"

I understand what you're saying, but let me try to help out a bit. This is an Entertainment thread, not a news thread. When someone writes "Makalah was voted off last week," that is a declarative statement of fact than can be true or false. In this case is true. When someone writes "Bo was voted off last week," that too is a declarative statement...a false declarative statement.

However, the vast majority of comments on this board are opinion. They may not be written as such, but they are. But that's OK. It is easy to figure out which ones are merely opinion. When someone writes "Carrie Underwood is the worst singer in the history of American Idol," that is a declarative statement, but it is neither true nor false. It is opinion. In order for it to be able to have a truth value ascribed to it, it must be recast as you suggest ("I think Carrie Underwood is the worst singer in the history of American Idol" -- I don't, this is just an example).

Embrace the opinions. Don't let the the fact that they are presented as fact get in the way of enjoying the debate. It's great fun. I've met several people who recoil at the kind of construction you refer to. It gets in the way of the fun that discourse can provide. Don't let it.

warrrreagl · 03-31-2005, 05:33 AM

This is a similar demographic breakdown that I compiled for the Survivor thread, and you can't refuse to accept the major role that demographics play in marketing.

FINAL 12
Black girls - 2
Black guys - 2
White girls - 4
White guys - 4

East Coast - 3
Pennsylvania - 1
New Jersey - 1
New York - 1

Midwest - 3
Oklahoma - 1
Missouri - 1
Ohio - 1

Deep South - 5
Alabama - 1
Florida - 3
Louisiana - 1

West - 1
Nevada - 1

21 and under - 6
22 and over - 6

After this week's show, we've lost our third consecutive white girl.
Black girls - 2
Black guys - 2
White girls - 1
White guys - 4

East Coast - 3
Pennsylvania - 1
New Jersey - 1
New York - 1

Midwest - 3
Oklahoma - 1
Missouri - 1
Ohio - 1

Deep South - 3
Alabama - 1
Florida - 2

21 and under - 3
22 and over - 6

K-Wise · 03-31-2005, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by thales

I understand what you're saying, but let me try to help out a bit. This is an Entertainment thread, not a news thread. When someone writes "Makalah was voted off last week," that is a declarative statement of fact than can be true or false. In this case is true. When someone writes "Bo was voted off last week," that too is a declarative statement...a false declarative statement.

However, the vast majority of comments on this board are opinion. They may not be written as such, but they are. But that's OK. It is easy to figure out which ones are merely opinion. When someone writes "Carrie Underwood is the worst singer in the history of American Idol," that is a declarative statement, but it is neither true nor false. It is opinion. In order for it to be able to have a truth value ascribed to it, it must be recast as you suggest ("I think Carrie Underwood is the worst singer in the history of American Idol" -- I don't, this is just an example).

Embrace the opinions. Don't let the the fact that they are presented as fact get in the way of enjoying the debate. It's great fun. I've met several people who recoil at the kind of construction you refer to. It gets in the way of the fun that discourse can provide. Don't let it.

I gotta say though that if someone here says "So and so was flat tonight, she messed up the notes, she did not do a good job on the song, etc." that should not be dismissed as an opinion. Someone like warrrreagl who knows music or anyone who's been singing their whole life can easily spot when something just isn't right. Even if they don't know music and can't read it they can tell when a note isn't right or something. Plus if you've heard the original song by it's original performer anyone who has the slightest knowledge of pitch, tone, and key can tell that it doesn't sound as good as the original performance.

For example you didn't have to be a music major to know that Mikalah did a pretty bad job on Taylor Dayne's - Love Will Lead You Back.

Now those that don't know much about it hear a performance that to the average person would sound good, great even..they can't tell a difference. They don't notice something slightly flat or anything like that that is basically just lacking. Not saying Paula is one of those people but what she said last night after Anwar's performance of "I Believe I can Fly" is what I'd expect to hear from someone who doesn't know what they're talking about. That gets blinded by the vocal theatrics and over the topness of a performance and completely misses the fact that the first half of the song was flat in several spots.

If someone knows what they're talking about. It's not an opinion. It's a fact. I don't really know what I'm talking about much because I've had no real musical teaching but I have been singing all my life and I can just tell when something isn't right even if I don't exactly know what that thing is ya know?

Asta!!

03-15-2005, 10:03 AM	#161 (permalink)
warrrreagl pinche vato Location: backwater, Third World, land of cotton	I agree with Grancey. American Idol doesn't have an iron-clad hold on contestants after they leave the show, or else Tamyra Gray wouldn't have started appearing on non-FOX TV shows. __________________ Living is easy with eyes closed.

03-15-2005, 04:53 PM	#162 (permalink)
K-Wise It's All About The Ass!! Location: In a pool of mayonnaise!!	^ I'm just going by other performers who were on the show last year that could not do anything with anyone other than American Idol because they were bound by contract. I even saw a T.V. show about Reality T.V. do a segment on it where Ryan Seacrests old co-host that they had on the first season actually said "You just don't realize it. I mean they OWN these kids." Asta!! __________________ "I love music and it's my parents fault (closing statement)." - Me..quoting myself...from when I said that...On TFP..thats here...Tilted Forum Project *It ain't goodbye, it's see ya later! I'll miss you guys!* - Asta!!

03-15-2005, 05:55 PM	#163 (permalink)
ShaniFaye Submit to me, you know you want to Location: Lilburn, Ga	Ok....Bo was def the best one tonite.....nikko wasnt too bad either __________________ *I want the diabetic plan that comes with rollover carbs. I dont like the unused one expiring at midnite!!*

03-15-2005, 06:35 PM	#164 (permalink)
K-Wise It's All About The Ass!! Location: In a pool of mayonnaise!!	Yeah Bo did great. Much to my surprise Constantine also did great tonight! He sang like I remembered him being able to sing when he went to Hollywood. I could actually hear his tone again. Wasn't the best performance of the night but definitely his best performance. I like him singing those type of songs. It shows his true abilities. Anwar did great. I don't care what they say...he's a guy who knows his voice and picks songs that compliment it. They just don't understand that. Other than them I thought Nadia did great and Vonzell..hmm The only ones that did bad were Lindsey, Mikalah wasn't TOO good or Federov. Asta!! __________________ "I love music and it's my parents fault (closing statement)." - Me..quoting myself...from when I said that...On TFP..thats here...Tilted Forum Project *It ain't goodbye, it's see ya later! I'll miss you guys!* - Asta!!

03-15-2005, 06:48 PM	#166 (permalink)
K-Wise It's All About The Ass!! Location: In a pool of mayonnaise!!	Hmm dunno. Technically he made it...he just turned it down..confusing Asta!! __________________ "I love music and it's my parents fault (closing statement)." - Me..quoting myself...from when I said that...On TFP..thats here...Tilted Forum Project *It ain't goodbye, it's see ya later! I'll miss you guys!* - Asta!!

03-15-2005, 09:07 PM	#167 (permalink)
Lockjaw Junkie	How did Anwar do? I fell asleep before the show came on and I woke up when the chick with the fro was on. And yes Bo was quite good. I definately have him penned for top three. And that blonde country chick was good too. Actually all the people I saw were fantastic except Niko. Sorry but he just doesn't have the skills. I wish he did because he has a nice style about him but I just ain't feeling it. He was a little "pitchy" j/k. But back to what I was saying I wonder if American Idol will take this season as a chance to "reinvent" themselves a bit. With talents like Bo being a DEFINATE good rocker and that country chick being a wonderful country voice I wonder even if they lose to a more pop/R&B type singer if they won't package those folks singularly and target those audiences specifically. I kind of suspect they might considering that while Fantasia hasn't been pushed big to the major market her album gets pretty decent play on Urban stations. They could effectively triple their profits every year by taking the more unconventional people and market them appropriately. Frankly if Bo didn't win and they put him with a good backing group I'd buy his stuff.

03-16-2005, 04:32 AM	#168 (permalink)
K-Wise It's All About The Ass!! Location: In a pool of mayonnaise!!	They didn't think Anwar brought it to the table but he did. He sang great he's very consistent...if he won I'd be just fine with that. My mom thinks he's super handsome too haha. He did have on some pimp ass clothes. I could never pull off some shit like that. I think Paula's got the hots for him. I don't doubt Bo and Carrie will be marketted as well. If Bo DOESN'T win..he'll be second place to someone...and they always market second place anyway. Sometimes they do even better...look at Clay? He took off...Ruben..didn't. It'd be FUCKIN GREAT if Bo could win this year cause that would break the fuckin 3 year streak of nothing but R&B/Soul/Gospel singers being our "American Idols" Those aren't the only types of vocalists out there and with Mario gone Bo doesn't really have too many people to worry about. Carrie is good but she's not consistent...I really only liked her first performance a LOT the rest I could do without(People DO love her anyway but not anymore than they love Bo). Anwar could give him a run but he has to let loose some more. Nadia is probably his biggest threat. As for the rest of them...they don't really touch him. I do like Scott a lot though. I kinda worry for him because nobody seems to acknowledge him at all other than me on this board lol. I'm begining to think he's forgetful but he hasn't had ONE bad performance yet. I'm starting to realize why he seems to be forgetful. He sings the songs like they're sung...he sings them pretty much spot on every time. He doesn't go for big notes like everyone else does. I swear people only remember the people who shout out a note at the end of their performance...Scott doesn't do that. But then again..he doesn't need to...to me thats just theatrics. If there is a big note at the end okay but if there isn't yer just trying to show off. Seems like everyone else is afraid to end on a soft note. Most of my favorite songs end on a soft note. I love Bo but as far as the original Spinning Wheel goes...his wasn't as good. It was good for AI though...don't get me wrong..he did rock it out there I'm just saying haha don't shoot me or anything. Asta!! __________________ "I love music and it's my parents fault (closing statement)." - Me..quoting myself...from when I said that...On TFP..thats here...Tilted Forum Project *It ain't goodbye, it's see ya later! I'll miss you guys!* - Asta!!

03-16-2005, 03:06 PM	#169 (permalink)
Lockjaw Junkie	Well I think the average person just listening thinks the R&B/Gospel/Soul singer as a general rule sound better and more impressive. That's not always true but when you can listen to some "rockers" do nothing more than scream and sing off tune I don't think you'd have to many people gravitating to a person from that mold even if they really CAN sing well. But the reason why I think they might market the country chick if say she does make it to the top 3 is because you will have a battle of styles, R&B,rock, and country and all of those markets are fairly substantial and could easily support another singer of that caliber. The R&B person could easily survive on the Top 40,Urban, and some adult contemporary stations. The rocker(Bo because let's face it Constantine will not make it to the top 7) will make do on rock stations with the right backing,and maybe some sparse play on Top 40 here and there. The country singer could be promoted essentially in a vaccum because a lot of country music happens in a very isolated manner and unless it's just HUGE it rarely spills over into the mainstream consciousness. I mean not many people who aren't country fans will even know who folks like Big and Rich,Kenney Chesney,or Keith Urban are. Yet those are huge names in the country market. They could sign produce and moderately push that girl in the country circles and since she had already been exposed to the national market at some point if she gets big she won't be a total unknown and would be more likely to get play on adult contemporary, and top 40 stations as well. Sounds like a good plan to me

03-16-2005, 03:32 PM	#170 (permalink)
K-Wise It's All About The Ass!! Location: In a pool of mayonnaise!!	^ It could work. Asta!! __________________ "I love music and it's my parents fault (closing statement)." - Me..quoting myself...from when I said that...On TFP..thats here...Tilted Forum Project *It ain't goodbye, it's see ya later! I'll miss you guys!* - Asta!!

03-22-2005, 08:55 AM	#171 (permalink)
thales Upright Location: New York	Prediction time... Last week Jessica, Mikalah, and Lindsey were the bottom-three vote getters and Lindsey got the axe. This week I'm guessing that the legion of tone deaf Mikalah fans will do everything they can to keep her out of the bottom three this week. Jessica will remain there merely because, despite having a great voice, she has zero personality and an equal amount of stage presence (and her proclivity for honky-tonk style country/rock will get her nowhere fast). So which two will join her on the stage? Nikko and Constantine...or Vonzell. I think it is likely that Nikko's fans, who voted in force for him last week knowing full well that if they didn't he would be out, will not call in (or text message) this week...especially since he was not in the bottom three last week. Constantine: I believe last week's surprisingly good performance was an abberation and this week we will likely see the return of the Constantine we know and put up with. That said, last week's performance has me very unsure about including him in the bottom three... Therefore, I am also including an alternate: Vonzell. Yeah. I know she can sing, but she's no star. Let's put it this way, Anwar, Bo, Carrie, Nadia and Scott are safe. "Trachea boy" Federov has the tweenies eating out of the prepubescent palm of his hand and, as a result, is safe. That leaves Vonzell as the best alternate. She has had some "off" nights and tonight could be another. Therefore... Bottom three: Jessica, Nikko and Constantine Alternate bottom three (assuming Constantine repeats last week's quality performance): Jessica, NIkko and Vonzell Either way...Jessica Sierra gets the boot tomorrow night.

03-22-2005, 05:45 PM	#172 (permalink)
K-Wise It's All About The Ass!! Location: In a pool of mayonnaise!!	^ Shouldn't you at least wait until the shows over before making predictions? I only say this because sometimes this shit is unpredictable. Some of them got 2 or 3 or 4 bad performances before they finally got the boot and others got ONE! Now that it's the big show it's kinda hard to tell. I really do hope you're right and either Jessica or Mikalah get the boot this week. I really hope Jessica isn't the Diana Degarmo of this year..grrr. Asta!! __________________ "I love music and it's my parents fault (closing statement)." - Me..quoting myself...from when I said that...On TFP..thats here...Tilted Forum Project *It ain't goodbye, it's see ya later! I'll miss you guys!* - Asta!!

03-23-2005, 12:36 AM	#173 (permalink)
Sensei Black Belt in Slacking Off Location: Portland Or-ah-gun	Rebroadcast coming up The frickin geniouses coudlnt' figure out how to convert letters to numbers on a phone. The biggest error since Nikki McKibbin mysteriously made the Top 3. ‘American Idol’ gives wrong numbers Show to be rebroadcast Wednesday for new vote By Gael Fashingbauer Cooper MSNBC Updated: 2:44 a.m. ET March 23, 2005 "American Idol" displayed incorrect phone numbers for three singers after Tuesday night's edition of the Fox show aired. At least one reality TV fan Web site, TVgasm.com, has announced that the network will reair the program Wednesday night, with the results show moved to Thursday. Screen captures of the episode show that incorrect phone numbers were listed for contestants Anwar Robinson, Mikalah Gordon, and Jessica Sierra. The phone numbers are always listed twice for each contestant, once as a number and once in a kind of shorthand, incorporating the letters on the phone that spell out IDOLS. For Robinson, Gordon and Sierra, the numbers spelled out using letters were correct, but the complete phone numbers printed below those numbers were incorrect. Viewers who called the second numbers intending to vote for Robinson, Gordon or Sierra would be instead casting votes for contestants Anthony Fedorov, Carrie Underwood or Scott Savol. The errors were not corrected before the show aired on the West Coast. At press time, it was not clear if all votes from Tuesday night would be thrown out or if the show would add those votes to the calls received after the show re-airs Wednesday. "American Idol" has not been free from controversy in the past. Earlier this month, finalist Mario Vazquez abruptly dropped out of the competition, citing "personal reasons." He was replaced by Nikko Smith. And last season, so many viewers complained that they could not get through on Fox's phone lines to vote that the network was forced to add more lines and extend the voting period. __________________ Slacking off with style since 1981.

03-23-2005, 04:11 AM	#174 (permalink)
ShaniFaye Submit to me, you know you want to Location: Lilburn, Ga	They are doing a live show tonite with the performers doing encores....all votes from last nite are being thrown out and the revote will take place tonite damn it....Survivor is on tonite because of basketball..... __________________ *I want the diabetic plan that comes with rollover carbs. I dont like the unused one expiring at midnite!!*

03-23-2005, 04:26 PM	#176 (permalink)
ShaniFaye Submit to me, you know you want to Location: Lilburn, Ga	ok.....like I said earlier....I taped last nites show....I just watched it first....the number screw ups...what they did was put the wrong ending digits on the last three when they put the number up at the end for example 1-866- IDOLS 09 -866-43657 01 text vote to 5709 so it was the number "spelled" out in digits was wrong on the last 3 2nd...Bo did one of my most favorite songs in the world...and one Im considering for the wedding....Jim Croce's Time in a Bottle....hands down its the best version I've heard done since Croce himself Constantine did an outstanding version of David Cassidy's I think I love you....I've heard David do that song live and Constantine nailed it Jessica gave me shivers with her Total Eclipse of the Heart Carrie did great with the Heart song Alone Nadia ruined Time after Time...Mikalah murdered her song, Scott wasnt bad-just dont impressive...Federov...not impressed one bit...Anwar...flat....Nikko was 5th on my list after Carrie...Vonzell I dont ever remember Bottom 3 in my opinion Vonzell, Anwar, Mikalah __________________ *I want the diabetic plan that comes with rollover carbs. I dont like the unused one expiring at midnite!!*

03-23-2005, 06:01 PM	#177 (permalink)
K-Wise It's All About The Ass!! Location: In a pool of mayonnaise!!	See I don't think Jessica and Carrie have a good enough tone to have taken on those songs. The low notes at the begining of Alone were pretty bad. And the high notes were barely there. Jessica I didn't think she sounded good at all save for towards the end. But I give them props because they were REALLY hard songs to sing. Fact of the matter is though they were pretty lackluster compared to the actual songs themselves. I think people forgot what the originals sounded like the whole night. To me the ones who actually did good that night were Vonzell(She did terrific but she does try to hard with the runs), Bo, Constantine was actually good lol, and the rest I could probably do without. I like Scott though. He has a great voice. His performance wasn't the best but he sang his heart out on that one and put everything he had into it. I hope Scott isn't the one to go home. That would really suck for me. I want him to stay in there a little longer. I know he won't win but you know. Well gotta go watch it. EDIT: Okay I'm happy and mad right now. I think I've tried like 30 freakin times to vote for Scott now and I still can't get through This a good thing. You don't like him? Sue me! He deserves to stay way more than Mikalah AND Federov! :-)~ EDIT #2: Finally I fuckin get in! Votes for Scott now accounted for <font size=1>5 of them..for now..more later</font> Asta!! __________________ "I love music and it's my parents fault (closing statement)." - Me..quoting myself...from when I said that...On TFP..thats here...Tilted Forum Project *It ain't goodbye, it's see ya later! I'll miss you guys!* - Asta!! Last edited by K-Wise; 03-23-2005 at 07:40 PM..

03-25-2005, 07:24 AM	#178 (permalink)
Grancey Life's short, gotta hurry... Location: land of pit vipers	Mikalah, Mikalah........ What happened to this poor girl? Who told her that she should be serious and stiff instead of the fun-loving light personality from the auditions? She was never one of my favorites, but it is apparent that someone told her to change her style. That someone is an idiot. __________________ Quiet, mild-mannered souls might just turn out to be roaring lions of two-fisted cool.

03-25-2005, 01:39 PM	#179 (permalink)
K-Wise It's All About The Ass!! Location: In a pool of mayonnaise!!	Well save for Nadia Thales was pretty wrong this time around haha. Of the people left I honestly don't know who will go home next. I'd hope it's Jessica but for some reason they actually like her and her voice. Federov can go now he hasn't been impressing me at all as of late. Nikko is fairly good as is Anwar but they both lack consistency. Hmm the rest I don't really have too much of a problem with. Asta!! __________________ "I love music and it's my parents fault (closing statement)." - Me..quoting myself...from when I said that...On TFP..thats here...Tilted Forum Project *It ain't goodbye, it's see ya later! I'll miss you guys!* - Asta!!

03-27-2005, 03:32 AM	#180 (permalink)
darkangel Crazy Location: AB, Canada	Ah American Idol, I've been watching this from the very first episode of Season 1. My opinions on this season: I can't STAND Constantine. Maybe it's because I'm a rocker chick, but he just seems.. fake. I really want him to go. Of course, Bo is the man! He probably won't win, but I like him. I also like Nadia because she's different. My $0.02. __________________ "I'm gonna die when it's time for me to die.. so let me live my life the way I want to." - Jimi Hendrix

03-27-2005, 07:05 PM	#181 (permalink)
K-Wise It's All About The Ass!! Location: In a pool of mayonnaise!!	^ The funny thing about Const is I like his voice best when he's NOT singing rock. When he sang "You've made me so very happy." I thought he did great. It's not rock...I kinda think guy may be in the wrong genre lol. I think your 2 cents add up. Asta!! __________________ "I love music and it's my parents fault (closing statement)." - Me..quoting myself...from when I said that...On TFP..thats here...Tilted Forum Project *It ain't goodbye, it's see ya later! I'll miss you guys!* - Asta!!

03-27-2005, 07:22 PM	#182 (permalink)
warrrreagl pinche vato Location: backwater, Third World, land of cotton	When did Blood, Sweat, and Tears get re-classified as non-rock? __________________ Living is easy with eyes closed.

03-27-2005, 07:28 PM	#183 (permalink)
K-Wise It's All About The Ass!! Location: In a pool of mayonnaise!!	^ Touche Asta!! __________________ "I love music and it's my parents fault (closing statement)." - Me..quoting myself...from when I said that...On TFP..thats here...Tilted Forum Project *It ain't goodbye, it's see ya later! I'll miss you guys!* - Asta!!

03-28-2005, 02:17 AM	#185 (permalink)
K-Wise It's All About The Ass!! Location: In a pool of mayonnaise!!	^ Ouch! haha In other news I read in the paper yesterday that there are rumors that Mario may have left AI to sign with Sean "P. Diddy" Combs. Puff refused to comment on it and Mario as well for fear of being held to his contract. I'd hate to see Mario go to Puffy cause I don't really respect what Puff does at all and he'd prolly ruin him for me but Mario would prolly be gettin paid buku bucks! Beleeh dat yo! Can't be too long before we see it. I think they're individual contracts are for like 3 months or some shit like that. Asta!! __________________ "I love music and it's my parents fault (closing statement)." - Me..quoting myself...from when I said that...On TFP..thats here...Tilted Forum Project *It ain't goodbye, it's see ya later! I'll miss you guys!* - Asta!!

03-29-2005, 07:39 PM	#192 (permalink)
K-Wise It's All About The Ass!! Location: In a pool of mayonnaise!!	I really think Paula is in love with Anwar. She has a complete bias when concerning him. That guy can do no wrong in her eyes. And was I the only one who noticed she looked rather drowsy or stoned or something tonight. The way she was acting, the way she loved everybody and her eyes were a bit lazy I dunno just something about her tonight. Weird. Constantine did great, and Vonzell really suprised me tonight too. Federov I didn't care for at all. And as much as I hate to say it, Scott wasn't very on tonight either. If he goes I suppose i can see why this time around he was one of the weakest. I'd rather it be Federov though but it probably won't be. As for the rest of them well you got 2 or 3 that always do good it's a give in and the rest didn't do too bad at all. EDIT: Does anyone know what songs all these guys were singing tonight? I mean I recognized most of them. Martina, Brian, Elton, Whitney but the rest I'm not so sure. I believe my mom told me that Const sang a Bonnie Raitt song and I know I've heard what Bo sang I think it's Black Crowes but I'm not sure I didn't catch that(Ah nevermind just saw it!)...was I just not paying attention or did they not show what songs they were singing this time around? Asta!! __________________ "I love music and it's my parents fault (closing statement)." - Me..quoting myself...from when I said that...On TFP..thats here...Tilted Forum Project *It ain't goodbye, it's see ya later! I'll miss you guys!* - Asta!! Last edited by K-Wise; 03-29-2005 at 07:46 PM..

03-29-2005, 08:16 PM	#193 (permalink)
thales Upright Location: New York	I think Federov was the weakest tonight and deserves to go home - the first of the guys to do so. The bottom three should be rounded out by Nadia (she was much much better this week, but still bottom three) and either Scott "Serial Killer" Savol or Jessica Sierra. I would prefer that Jessica was in the bottom three, but the judges seemed to prefer her to Scott a bit tonight (a close call that...maybe it's just me). Nikko was surprisingly good tonight and Constantine, after a consistently weak semi finals, is now three for three since the finals began. If he could just conquer his faux rock star persona and come across as a bit more genuine, he may have something going. And damn, Vonzell is really getting better every week. Bo and Carrie better watch out...they got some competition in that sweet little package.

03-29-2005, 10:37 PM	#195 (permalink)
darkangel Crazy Location: AB, Canada	I've always stated, that I'm praying on my knees for Constantine to get off the stage lol He gets worse to me every week. I just can't stand him. My fav picks are: Bo (Though weaker this week), Nadia (Better this week), Carrie (Star quality), and Vonzel (Diva). __________________ "I'm gonna die when it's time for me to die.. so let me live my life the way I want to." - Jimi Hendrix

03-30-2005, 04:24 AM	#196 (permalink)
ShaniFaye Submit to me, you know you want to Location: Lilburn, Ga	I have to agree with ei555's picks....I dont want to see constantine go though....I didnt like the song he did last nite....but he sang it very well...best performance so for IMO. I was pleasantly surprised with Vonzel. I thought Nadia sang the hell out of her song. And yeah, Bo was weaker this week, but he still got my vote __________________ *I want the diabetic plan that comes with rollover carbs. I dont like the unused one expiring at midnite!!*

03-30-2005, 05:12 AM	#197 (permalink)
warrrreagl pinche vato Location: backwater, Third World, land of cotton	We've got entire threads here on wtf is wrong with Paula Abdul. She's always drunk. There were times last season when she was Farrah-on-Letterman wacked out. The favorites in our household are Bo, Constantine, Carrie, and Anthony. My wife votes like crazy after the show, but I don't know if she's voting for all her favorites or just some of them. I do know, however, that she always has a hard time getting through to Bo's number, so it must be busy a lot. Nadia seems to have an imaginary friend standing on stage right, because she has an annoying habit of singing a line and then smiling off to her right. Jessica reminds us too much of Tori Spelling. Scott is just plain gross, and it has nothing to do with his weight. Ruben was heavy, but cuddly. Scott is NOT cuddly; he looks like he doesn't bathe, and I thought he gave the weakest performance of the night. I thought Antwan would have been stronger by now, but he seems to be getting worse. Nikko is out of his league, and he's started to play the Daddy card. No thoughts yet on Vonzell. __________________ Living is easy with eyes closed.

03-31-2005, 05:33 AM	#199 (permalink)
warrrreagl pinche vato Location: backwater, Third World, land of cotton	This is a similar demographic breakdown that I compiled for the Survivor thread, and you can't refuse to accept the major role that demographics play in marketing. FINAL 12 Black girls - 2 Black guys - 2 White girls - 4 White guys - 4 East Coast - 3 Pennsylvania - 1 New Jersey - 1 New York - 1 Midwest - 3 Oklahoma - 1 Missouri - 1 Ohio - 1 Deep South - 5 Alabama - 1 Florida - 3 Louisiana - 1 West - 1 Nevada - 1 21 and under - 6 22 and over - 6 After this week's show, we've lost our third consecutive white girl. Black girls - 2 Black guys - 2 White girls - 1 White guys - 4 East Coast - 3 Pennsylvania - 1 New Jersey - 1 New York - 1 Midwest - 3 Oklahoma - 1 Missouri - 1 Ohio - 1 Deep South - 3 Alabama - 1 Florida - 2 21 and under - 3 22 and over - 6 __________________ Living is easy with eyes closed. Last edited by warrrreagl; 03-31-2005 at 06:54 AM..