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ChrisJericho 01-19-2004 05:07 AM

Anyone else find Anime............ BORING?
 
I will admit when I was in my teen years, in the early years of high school, I did like anime. I thought the way it was drawn was cool and all the ninjas and big robots were a lot better than the cartoons we had over here.

But then I started participating in more sports, got a job, started going out on dates with girls, and completely forgot about it.

Fast forward to my junior year in college. I start going to LAN's with friends and after few a hours of gaming guess what they want to do... WATCH anime, TRADE anime, DISCUSS anime etc etc. Of course I am subjected to watching anime since many times these LAN's are at my friends' house. I sit there in front of these cartoons completely bored while everyone else is enthralled by schoolgirls with guns, giant robots smashing cities blah blah blah. Due to this anime overdose I have pretty much stopepd going to my friends' LANs.

So here is my question: How many TFP'ers out there are willing to admit that they find anime BORING? Yes I know you may not sound cool for admitting this, but hell SOMEONE needed to bring this out into the open.

Vilkata 01-19-2004 05:24 AM

I find about 97% of anime boring and over-rated. I too have been burned by a friend's obsession with anime. He dragged to me a convention and it scarred me for life. So much I almost threw away the few animes I own.

ebeye 01-19-2004 05:27 AM

I agree, keeping yourself away from an anime overdose is the key. When browsing titles, it seems like there are way too many movies out there that are really just the same. I am no anime-file, but I do enjoy watching the occasional movie. If you stick to proven good ones , you might be able to get back into it somewhat. Take a month off and then watch Ninja Scrolls. :) Or get away from traditional anime and go for some nice dark american animation like Spawn.

Rodney 01-19-2004 07:16 AM

Well, Sturgeon's Law holds that 90 percent of everything is crap. Personally, I think Sturgeon was being kind.

I'm not an anime fan, but I'm seen some of it; like anything else, most is crap. As with films: find some directors that you like, and follow their work. I'll see anything that Miyazaki does, for example.

Vespertine 01-19-2004 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vilkata
He dragged to me a convention and it scarred me for life.
Thanks for the laugh. :D

Anyways, all in all Anime is trash. The voices, the stories, the characters....Sometimes they're just far too annoying to even watch all the way through. However, I will concede that there are actually a few that are worthy of attention.

Psivage 01-19-2004 10:18 AM

Hate it, that and Manga.

mb99usa 01-19-2004 10:22 AM

I like anime. I think the thing is to not be obsessed by it. I'll check it out when I can but I'm not a fanatic. That keeps it fresh and interesting.

Stare At The Sun 01-19-2004 12:03 PM

I enjoy it, but only the premo stuff- IE;
Hellsing
Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust
Ninja Scroll
Princess Monnoke(sp)

Other than that, I think 99 percent of it is over rated..

VF19 01-19-2004 12:28 PM

I dont understand it. These monsters and robots and what not destroying things with unrealistic guns..about what I can make of it.I think it's just another moneymaking scam.

Now Archie, good ol' American comics. I can live with Archie.

nonono 01-19-2004 12:54 PM

one anime i love. GOLDENBOY. so funny..follows this like perverted teenager around on his"adventures". only anime i have seriously laughed out loud and enjoyed.

BuddyHawks 01-19-2004 01:27 PM

The only anime I've seen are the one's that people here said were good...and they were right. I've liked every anime I've seen, I just won't watch it unless i've heard good things about it.

3zos 01-19-2004 01:55 PM

nonono

haha oh yes. best comedic anime ive seen in a while. ive taken to shouting HAAAAI when girls ask me to do something for them.

as has been said, if you stick to the good stuff then anime can be enjoyable, its no different than any other entertainment medium. i know the type youre talking about though, college kids that wish they were japanese and are completely obsessed with all things anime and japanese/asian just for the sake of being cool. i find it hard to believe some of the stuff these people watch they actually find entertaining if they held back a bit and really looked at it.

good anime, lets say sticking to movies: bebop movie, akira, millenium actress, ghost in the shell (the sequel/prequel looks mighty nice from what clips ive seen so far), metropolis (cool meld of modern cgi, extensive and minutely detailed background drawing, old school character animations), spriggan for pure shoot-em-up entertainment value.

Mr.Deflok 01-19-2004 05:35 PM

Just out of curiosity, what anime have you haters seen?

I can understand peoples dislike for anime, I'm no fan of comedy anime but love serious epics like Ghost in the Shell, Jin-Roh, and Voices of a Distant Star. I can't stand DBZ anymore, and I'll never class Pokemon, Card Captors as anime because they're incredibly lame.

Mantus 01-19-2004 06:59 PM

Anime is just like any other media; some of it is good, and some of it is damn awful. The problem here is the fact that to us Americans anime is new. As we all know, new things always seem cool at first. So these people who just come around to discovering Anime end up thinking that all Anime is good. Every time you tell them this isn’t so they end up throwing a fit. Just like a pre-teen Spice Girl fan would have a few years ago.

There are some absolutely great Anime titles out there that rival most movies and shows I’ve seen and there are others that are just terrible or simply made for a young audience.

Dustallica 01-19-2004 09:25 PM

I love the stuff...always have.

However like Stare at the Sun stated, if you want to see a good one you must check out Hellsing.

Coolest. Vampire. Ever :)

mr_mcrafe 01-19-2004 11:00 PM

First I'll say I haven't seen that much, but from what I have seen I think it's pretty weird. It seems to consist of scantily clad girls and giant robotic machines and torture and stuff, I mean, what's with tentacles? I sort of suspect this isn't like most anime, but it's what I've happened to see so yeah, it's put me off it.

Also, what's the difference between anime and manga?

Vilkata 01-19-2004 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mr_mcrafe


Also, what's the difference between anime and manga?

Anime is the video form. Manga is the comic book form.

Sparhawk 01-20-2004 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dustallica
I love the stuff...always have.

However like Stare at the Sun stated, if you want to see a good one you must check out Hellsing.

Coolest. Vampire. Ever :)

Will have to check it out, thanks!

Like others have said, it's just like any other entertainment medium: some of it is good, most of it is crap. I had 2 anime titles in my collection for about 4 years (Ninja Scroll and Ghost in the Shell) and never watched any other anime. Then I watched the Cowboy Bebop movie and have slowly gotten back into watching the occasional title (have since picked up Vampire Hunter: Bloodlust).

Ganguro 01-20-2004 05:02 AM

you have to realize that a lot of anime we get here in the states have been totally westernized and for as cheap as possible. Also.. some cultural aspects just dont translate well..
Different culture, different sense of humor, different pacing, etc..

Holo 01-20-2004 07:35 AM

I haven't watched much anime, but I like mangas a lot. Mangas have a lot of fucked up subjects and refreshing storylines, at least the ones I read. Get yourself a copy of River's Edge off eMule or go to http://thehawks.org/bt for some good quality manga.


Free manga downloads on the web:


http://omanga.net/?cid=news

manga links are on the left

I recommend Jisatsu Circle and Anne Freaks, both of which are strange and good. To easily read the mangas use Cdisplay:

http://www.geocities.com/davidayton/CDisplay



IMPORTANT:

Since these are tled from Japanese you MUST read backwards from right to left.

ratbastid 01-20-2004 08:55 AM

I'm not a Drooling Anime Fanboi, but I can say that I've seen some very cool stuff. Mononoke is very sweet. Ghost in the Shell kicks serious ass.

The whole sensibility of it is very different from most American enterntainment. It's more internal, quieter. Sometimes it doesn't exactly square with Western logic, but if you get into the spirit of it, it's very deep, rich stuff.

krwlz 01-20-2004 10:27 AM

I hate anime. Boring hardly starts to describe it.

Ganguro 01-20-2004 12:13 PM

Holo Xday and Confidential Confessions are also some really interesting manga titles to check out. There are some really awesome titles comming out of Korea right now, like Priest and Peach Girl (i think that is the title, my gf reads it..not me..i swear)
Ragnarok is also okay, but i was in love with the game first and found the manga to be quite different.. and somewhat dissapointing in comparison. The Ragnarok anime however is horrendous.

genstylez 01-20-2004 02:15 PM

I have seen a ton of anime, and I have come to the conclusion that all of it mostly sucks. I've seen some good series yah i know, but most of the animes stories/plot/characters suck. I still love it though passes the time. Currently I get tired of the same old anime showings still searching for something new. So far chappelle's feeling the gap real nice :D

Tempboy 01-20-2004 02:19 PM

I've seen a lot too. Most of the stuff that gets filtered into North America WAS good at one point, but the translated dialogue loses its original meaning, and the voice acting is terrible. As well, bits and pieces that aren't 'suitable' for an American audience are taken out.

I'll admit a lot of the stuff is crap. Most of it. But when you find the gems, it's a real treat. Just watching the animation for its own sake is good too.. getting to see the different styles, and the CG they use now.

01-20-2004 06:39 PM

a lot of anime is boring or over-rated, but since my husband intro'd me to things like Ghost In The Shell, Neon Genesis- the stories are quite interesting, art is good, and some even have great messages in them.

analog 01-20-2004 09:18 PM

Anime, as many other things in this world, is not to be understood or appreciated by everyone on the planet. Some see a wonderful narrative, others are bored by it. Personal opinion is all that shapes whether you like it or not. There are plenty of people who do, and I think most of you would be surprised by what is actually out there. There is a VERY wide variety of styles available, appealing to many different kinds of tastes.

If you don't like it, don't fucking watch it, it's that simple. :)

Maybe I'll start a thread like this one, but I'll talk about how fucking stupid sports are. We'll see how well that one is received.

Kidding. Get my point?

genstylez 01-20-2004 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tempboy
I've seen a lot too. Most of the stuff that gets filtered into North America WAS good at one point, but the translated dialogue loses its original meaning, and the voice acting is terrible. As well, bits and pieces that aren't 'suitable' for an American audience are taken out.

I'll admit a lot of the stuff is crap. Most of it. But when you find the gems, it's a real treat. Just watching the animation for its own sake is good too.. getting to see the different styles, and the CG they use now.

I couldn't of said it any better. I agree friend :P


Good Times~

Hrothgar 01-21-2004 12:58 AM

Never really held my interest.

cradeg 01-21-2004 10:56 AM

there is so much s*it out there , its really hard to find some really good anime things .. but well i am not scared to look for it :)

01-21-2004 01:35 PM

Has anyone seen Spirited Away? We bought it for our 8-yr-old daughter, us not even having seen it, and we love it. Our 4 yr old son even was mezmorized by it.
Cute and funny for kids, deep message and story for adults.
I recommend seeing it. Some of it is bizarre, but that is the japanese culture.

bonehed1 01-21-2004 04:34 PM

I can't stand anime...I hate it with a passion...it is completely boring and stupid to me but that is my own opinion. I would rather watch the smurfs then anime.

Averett 01-21-2004 06:14 PM

I dont find it boring, I just dont get it.

nukeu666 01-22-2004 05:11 AM

whatever your do DONT WATCH DUBBED anime

stuff like pokemon/dbz r pure crap

u'd better watch better stuff like 'grave of the fireflies'(movie),princess mononoke(movie), hellsing(13ep series), NGE(26ep series)

Dustallica 01-22-2004 09:13 PM

I agree with nukeu666, dont watch dubbed anime. That's all i used to watch, and when i got some subtitled anime i realized i had missed out on a lot of material.

Another Reccomendation is "Beserk"...just seeing somebody swing a sword thats bigger than they are is really cool!

Anyways check it out.

Tempboy 01-22-2004 09:14 PM

Neon Genesis Evangelion (NGE) isn't that good of an anime for ppl just getting into it. It's great for the most part, but it gets really fucked up by the end.

Redjake 01-23-2004 05:29 AM

I'm gonna have to disagree with everyone saying "don't want dubbed anime." Some of the best I've ever watched has been dubbed, and I've seen the same series/movies subbed as well, and I enjoyed the dubbed better.

Seriously people, if you don't know Japanese, it takes away from the experience. Why not have dubbed voices?

Some of my favorite dubs are Cowboy Bebop, Dragonball Z, and Sailor Moon (yes I used to watch it).

That's not to say the subs aren't good, and the original Japanese voices aren't good, but for people who don't watch anime as their only hobby, dubbing is God's gift to entertainment.

3zos 01-23-2004 12:29 PM

Dubbing is fine and well as long as they get a good set of voice actors. Cowboy Bebop is probably the most palatable dub ive seen in my experience, if solely for the fact that the translation wasnt such that the actor had to say about twice as many lines as he actually had time for, and secondly because the voice actors seemed to personify the character well and at least marginally sound like the original japanese voice actors.

if anyones watched the dubbed version of Escaflowne (series), and you hear the catgirl in english, you know precisely what i mean when i say i would gladly staple the mouth of that voice actor closed, or perhaps give her enough monetary incentive to leave the industry forever.

cartmen34 01-23-2004 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Averett
I dont find it boring, I just dont get it.
I agree. I've personally never found anime interesting in the slightest. I've tried to watch it, I even sat through an entire full feature film (I think it was Vampire Hunter B, or 2, or something like that), but I just don't see the appeal, much less the facination. I don't get it either.

nukeu666 01-23-2004 02:33 PM

the only dubbed anime i loved was mononoke coz it was done by a star casr....gillian anderson,billy thornton and more big hollyqwood ppl

thephuse 01-23-2004 09:12 PM

I approach anime like I approach a movie... some are good, some are horrible... Its like the characters are actors with one time roles :D

KnifeMissile 01-24-2004 01:10 AM

I don't understand the pro and con reactions to anime and manga.

Anime is a medium, not a genre! Saying that you don't like anime is like saying you don't like movies. The only thing that all anime have in common (and the only thing that might differentiate it with what you currently watch, if anything) is that they're animated and they're made by the Japanese. If you don't like animation or if you don't like the Japanese, that's one thing, but that has little to do with anime.

It's also interesting to note that manga constitutes almost 40% of the Japanese print industry, so they take that stuff pretty seriously....

Tempboy 01-24-2004 01:56 AM

40%? Wow, I wasn't aware of that.

I wonder how much of it is deviant perverted stuff. :D

George81 01-24-2004 10:25 AM

Can't say I'm a fan either. The animation/stories always tend to have the same themes, and I just find them boring.

Tempboy 01-24-2004 03:25 PM

If you think they all have the same themes, you're not watching very many, or you have terrible luck in selecting them.

Johnny Rotten 01-24-2004 11:00 PM

All it takes is one episode of a stereotypical anime show with exaggerated body movement and expressions, beefy robots, giggly schoolgirls, and, worst of all, dubbed voice acting so hammy that it's not even laughable--and most people will be heading for the exit or flipping the channel every time after that. However, if you watch Princess Mononoke, Spirited Away, Grave of the Fireflies, Ghost in the Shell, or Akira your first time out, everything will be different. Well, maybe not in the case of Akira, because it's kind of weird.

Subtitled versions are generally better because the voice actors in Japan are highly-paid and respected professionals. You can't understand a word they're saying of course, but they actually act the role instead of speaking it.

I recommend, though, sticking to recommendations, rather than sitting down with your local anime geek and watching whatever he's watching.

And Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust is much better than the one that came out 19 years ago, when the art form wasn't much better visually than our Saturday morning cartoons back then. That's the biggest barrier to enjoying that one. Just stick with Bloodlust.

genstylez 01-25-2004 12:38 AM

First anime ever was on Sci-fi and it was Iria. Then akira special was on the next day I was hooked :thumbsup:

Of course, I also saw some really bad stuff after that. Kinda threw me outta the loop.

Dixie_Wrekked 01-25-2004 12:40 AM

the only anime i have found interesting is Gunbuster, any other anime is too off the wall for me to enjoy

Starfish 01-25-2004 09:51 AM

I have only watched a few animes. My friend like yours is obsessed with them. I have learned that I only like a few of them and I have to be in the mood for them or I don't enjoy it. So the answer to your question is .... yes but there are some that I do ocassionally enjoy.

Dustallica 01-25-2004 08:20 PM

I didn't mean to say that dubbed anime isn't good. Just that to me, something is always "lost in the translation."

Example of this is in Neon Genesis Evangelion. In the japanese version i cared about Shinji and thought that everything going on with his personal life was sad. However, in the english version i thought he was "whiney" and i ended up not really liking him very much.

But that is just my opinion :)

DownwardSpiral 01-25-2004 08:39 PM

I am a pretty big anime fan myself, not all of them are boring, you just need to expand your viewing of it, unless animation in general isn't your thing.

frankx 01-26-2004 07:06 PM

I cannot understand what people like about anime. The anime I have personally seen (and yes, I have given it an honest chance) is crappy, blocky, big-eyed animation, insipid, corny dialog and really, really, bad plotlines (and don't get me wrong, I mean absolutely no offense to true fans of anime).

If someone could possibly recommend something tasteful and well-done to me (that would not leave me feeling like I just had to sit through a bad two hour episode of pokemon) perhaps my opinion would change.

Rawrr 01-26-2004 07:13 PM

I actually didn't start to watch Anime till hrm maybe about a week ago..before I didn't really get it but I think the drawings are pretty amazing and the action isn't half bad..still not my favorite stuff but it is new to me..

ToolBag 01-26-2004 07:15 PM

I have always been impressed with the drawings and the time put into making all of these films but I just cant get into them. I would much rather watch The Simpsons!

Johnny Rotten 01-26-2004 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by frankx
If someone could possibly recommend something tasteful and well-done to me (that would not leave me feeling like I just had to sit through a bad two hour episode of pokemon) perhaps my opinion would change.
Sure! I would recommend Hayao Miyazaki's stuff. Spirited Away, Princess Mononoke, Kiki's Delivery Service, and My Nieghbor Totoro, roughly in that order. I haven't watched the dubbed version of Mononoke, but it features some well-known American actors and is supposed to be pretty good. In general, though, the Japanese voice actors deliver a better performance, even though you can't understand what they're saying. I guess you hafta experience it for yourself. These are all feature-length films, as opposed to anime series, so they don't require a significant time investment or consistent interest level. Or enough money to get the whole set :).

joedog2112 01-26-2004 08:57 PM

The animation style just doesn`t appeal to me. To many still pans for my taste.

KnifeMissile 01-27-2004 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by joedog2112
The animation style just doesn`t appeal to me. To many still pans for my taste.
Bloody hell! I'm sorry but I was reading this for almost a minute before I figured out what the hell you were trying to say.

Too many still pans for your taste...

bigbad 01-28-2004 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Johnny Rotten
All it takes is one episode of a stereotypical anime show with exaggerated body movement and expressions, beefy robots, giggly schoolgirls, and, worst of all, dubbed voice acting so hammy that it's not even laughable--and most people will be heading for the exit or flipping the channel every time after that. However, if you watch Princess Mononoke, Spirited Away, Grave of the Fireflies, Ghost in the Shell, or Akira your first time out, everything will be different. Well, maybe not in the case of Akira, because it's kind of weird.

Subtitled versions are generally better because the voice actors in Japan are highly-paid and respected professionals. You can't understand a word they're saying of course, but they actually act the role instead of speaking it.

I recommend, though, sticking to recommendations, rather than sitting down with your local anime geek and watching whatever he's watching.

And Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust is much better than the one that came out 19 years ago, when the art form wasn't much better visually than our Saturday morning cartoons back then. That's the biggest barrier to enjoying that one. Just stick with Bloodlust.

My first anime was Ninja Scroll, second was Akira, anything I've seen after those two just really turns me off. Would much rather watch an old GI Joe or Ninja Turtles than most of that junk.

Jesus Pimp 01-28-2004 06:15 AM

I'm sorry but a lot of you guys watch a lot of crap anime. There is plenty of good even excellent anime out there, you just got to research and look for it. Most of it is fansubbed and never brought over here to the states. I roll my eyes each time I talk to casual watchers of anime about their favorite anime. It's always Ninja scroll, Akira, or Ghost in the Shell, Blood: The Last Vampire, or the latest mediocre to crappy anime brought over and dumbed down for american audiences. It's like people only listen to music on the radio or fed to them by mtv, and don't bother looking into independant artists etc.. Maybe I'm an elitist I don't know. Anyway I highly recommend checking out http://www.animenfo.com. It's an excellent resource for finding good anime. Good luck!

mystmarimatt 02-02-2004 12:55 AM

Not into it now, but back in like 8th grade, my friends thought it was cool, so i hitched on the bandwagon....that died down for me after a couple of months.

Reminds me, though. I was working at the local farmer's market my town has every summer, and this kid, like 10 years old, shows up, sets up a table with all his Pokemon and Dragon Ball Z and whatnot, and a little sign saying "Play or Trade".

I don't think anyone stopped by all day, I felt so bad for him.

nukeu666 02-02-2004 04:48 AM

http://www.animeacademy.com/libgrade.html
before watching any anime...check the rating of it here first

Jizzosh 02-03-2004 04:20 PM

This is like saying Movies are boring, or cartoons are boring. There is a gigantic array of genres of anime and styles, etc. There's always something for someone, IMHO.

Trigun seems to be a series that everyone who has seen seems to like. You might try that?

Confederate 02-04-2004 06:25 AM

Anime just seems repetative, it's all flash and little story, ive seen plenty of anime where they all fit the same mold with slightly different effect, it doesn't impress me at all

Ganguro 02-04-2004 06:41 AM

Notice: replace the word anime in the above statement with any of the following words / phrases
"movies", ":books", "albums"

This folks is called a blanket statement.. it is suually made by someone who is jaded or ignorant.

You also could have replaced the previous statement with garbled gibberish. It would have had the same effect.

Now back to your regularly scheduled flaming..

Wulf_Hunter 02-04-2004 08:16 AM

The only Anime I could get into is Cowboy Bebop. As far as the other stuff not interested.

Redjake 02-04-2004 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ganguro
Notice: replace the word anime in the above statement with any of the following words / phrases
"movies", ":books", "albums"

This folks is called a blanket statement.. it is suually made by someone who is jaded or ignorant.

You also could have replaced the previous statement with garbled gibberish. It would have had the same effect.

Now back to your regularly scheduled flaming..


I agree totally....
Sounds like a statement from someone who hasn't even sat down and honestly watched it. Whether you like it or not, you can't say it's all the same, or you're just not paying attention

skier 02-08-2004 12:14 PM

I enjoy anime, and how my roomate has no idea what it is yet will try to make fun of it.

he will say things like "watching that dubbed manga again? What happened to the hentai you were watching (hentai to him meaning anime- any show or movie in japanimation)"
either that or make horrible impressions of japanese language, basically a nonsensical blabber, and go back to watching star trek. heh.

tuffrr 02-10-2004 08:01 PM

Does astroboy count?

bt8624 02-10-2004 08:22 PM

liked as a kid...not a fan now...annoys me more than anything. Well except the porn pics...those are funny...lol


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