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thesupermikey · 01-27-2006, 09:12 PM

i wont say a lot about galactica till for a bit, but i just want to say that tonight's episode was lacking, after the great post brake season, tonights really fell flat to me.

i wont say anymore till more people have seen it

Willravel · 01-27-2006, 09:18 PM

I truely enjoyed it. Apollo has been lacking in screetime, and backstory.

thesupermikey · 01-27-2006, 09:57 PM

it was cool to see something other than the military side. its nice to be reminded that there is a civilian world.

ziadel · 01-28-2006, 12:11 PM

I also found the last episode lacking.

I'm just hoping they had to do something simple to save some $$ for some big espiode that is forthcoming.

next episode looks good tho, but wtf, why arent they going to earth?

Kadath · 01-30-2006, 08:43 AM

I actually really liked it. It was cool to see the seamy underbelly of the fleet, and Apollo's character needed some development -- he was just duty and honor until lately.

guthmund · 01-30-2006, 10:47 AM

The whole episode felt too "neat." The whole problem is introduced, explained and solved in about 45 minutes.

I didn't really get that the black market was a threat. In fact, it wasn't until Apollo found the kids on Prometheus (and what a cheap way to do it...) that I felt the market could mean trouble.

I didn't really get the bad guy. I mean, I understand he's the bad guy because he's wearing a fancy suit and does the whole 'bad-guy' speech at the end, but he must not have been too bad a guy because this is the first time I'm hearing about him.

I liked the bit between Tigh and Apollo. I really liked Baltar's little beat with the President, and it's nice that they're fleshing Apollo out a bit more, but that's about it....

Mondak · 01-30-2006, 07:28 PM

Agreed - too neat - why not give us little bites of that episode over 3 episodes so that we can decide that guy is bad.

guthmund · 01-31-2006, 06:34 AM

Exactly.

I think Phalen, (I guess...that's how it showed up under CC...) could have been a pretty interesting addition to the show. Bill Duke can play a wonderful psychopath....why not let him go the distance and air out his chops or, perhaps, some other confusing, obscure acting cliche?

Mondak · 01-31-2006, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by guthmund

Exactly.

I think Phalen, (I guess...that's how it showed up under CC...) could have been a pretty interesting addition to the show. Bill Duke can play a wonderful psychopath....why not let him go the distance and air out his chops or, perhaps, some other confusing, obscure acting cliche?

Well - if people REALLY like him, we have a couple Cylon slots left. . .

mrklixx · 01-31-2006, 11:17 PM

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Well - if people REALLY like him, we have a couple Cylon slots left. . .

Yeah, but I think Six is the biggest one. Oh, you said Cylon slots.

japhyryder · 02-01-2006, 04:15 AM

definately to neat of an episode, I am glad the are exploring Appolo's past some. Has the fleet figured out where they are going yet?

Mondak · 02-01-2006, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by mrklixx

Yeah, but I think Six is the biggest one. Oh, you said Cylon slots.

Even though people type "LOL" all the time, I actually laughed out loud. Nice

Willravel · 02-03-2006, 11:43 PM

So this week we have the introduction of a super-raider (Jeff George?), and the knowledge that raiders reincarnate just like the clones. Quite some info there. NOT ONLY THIS, but Starbuck and Apollo come to within an inch of going all the way. Then Starbuck shows that she is an ambrosiaholic (alcoholic). Kat is better than Starbuck because Starbuck is feeing guilty and lonely and helpless and a bit randy, and pissed. Wow. This was easily one of the 8 best episodes of BG yet. I can't wait for next week. This show is making Atlantis look like garbage, IMHO.

Fremen · 02-04-2006, 01:32 AM

Pretty great episode. I liked the idea of a Cylon Red Baron.
This character Kat gets on my nerves like the Ana Lucia character does in Lost.
Not sure if it's the actress or the character yet, like I am with M. Rodriguez.

stevie667 · 02-04-2006, 02:01 AM

Man, i'm so far behind you guys.
I hope they give tigh some good episodes, i was really starting to despise him until adama woke up.

Mondak · 02-04-2006, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Fremen

Pretty great episode. I liked the idea of a Cylon Red Baron.
This character Kat gets on my nerves like the Ana Lucia character does in Lost.
Not sure if it's the actress or the character yet, like I am with M. Rodriguez.

That is because you are a racist! (just kidding)

I liked it a lot too. For once, I got to see some freaking space battles so that was totally cool. I really would like to frak Cara now more than ever - nice scene when Apollo grabbed her ass through her undies.

They said frak a lot last night. . .

I think I heard a Caprican Kenny Rodgers singing in the background when Starbuck decided to let that cunt get the kill. I mean really - for a hot blooded / rash fighter jock - Starbuck did three things (a least) that the prototypical crazy fighter jock would NOT have done.

- When she cleared the room - which could be one in itself - instead of shitting down that broad's throat, she asked why she had a bug up her ass for her ever since she got back? That was an attempt to clear the air rather than escalate.

- She could have beat the piss out of that runt no problem. She was right about being afraid and instead allowed it - which had to be harder.

- Giving her the kill.

And the best part is that I understood it - I feel like I know the charachters - although they kinda forced it down our throats with ALL those flashbacks. I get it but I suppose they need to do some spoon feeding so they can keep it on TV.

On a side note, I can't remember a time when I was this dedicated to a TV show. Everything stops around the Mondak Estate on Fridays. I love the charachters and find myself glancing at the clock wishing it would slow down - hoping that I can have more time to spend in this world. I enjoy this very much.

death to Baltar - fraking Cylon mustash

guthmund · 02-04-2006, 11:42 AM

You're becoming a bit obsessed, no? Future of the fleet, my friend, future of the fleet.

Excellent episode. I could have done without all the redundant flashbacks especially during the dogfight, but...you know..I guess they had to stretch the effects budget, eh?

You're right, Mondak. I kept expecting Kara to beat the living dogsnot out of her, certainly after Kat punched her in the ready room. I kept expecting the proto-typical "top gun" shit and...I was pleasantly surprised when it didn't happen.

It was an excellent episode.

By the way, anybody else find it funny when Helo started talking about Kat as a young hot shot pilot "lookin' to make her bones?" I just about choked on my orange juice.

thesupermikey · 02-04-2006, 01:38 PM

Kara is such a wonderfuly dark/flawed character. Last nights epsiode really drove that home.

I really dig the new what that they are shoting the rapter seans. its cool to see more than just head on view of the pilot throw.

It might well be noted that the plot of this episode is a lot like and epsidoe of "Space: above and beyond"

mrklixx · 02-04-2006, 09:34 PM

I actually thought for a half a second that they might actually "kill off" Starbuck.

Willravel · 02-04-2006, 09:57 PM

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I actually thought for a half a second that they might actually "kill off" Starbuck.

This is one of the biggest signs of a good series. There is no security blanket for the meek. There are no limits. Expect nothing. Enjoy everything. Frack yes.

guthmund · 02-04-2006, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by thesupermikey

Kara is such a wonderfuly dark/flawed character. Last nights epsiode really drove that home.

I really dig the new what that they are shoting the rapter seans. its cool to see more than just head on view of the pilot throw.

It might well be noted that the plot of this episode is a lot like and epsidoe of "Space: above and beyond"

I really like the new way they're shooting the scenes as well. Not just the raptor skirmishes, but all the scenes.

The one little beat that stands out is the scene in the pilots ready room with Kara drinking and watching the footage from the raptor-cam. I'm certainly no cinematographer (assuming I even spelled that right), but that was a nice bit of work.

guthmund · 02-10-2006, 11:06 PM

I just wanted to be the first to say this last episode...total crap.

I thought 'Black Market' was bad. After watching the latest, I would've welcomed, nay loved another episode with that scrappy Bill Duke and his beloved band of black market banditos.

If anybody happens to read this before viewing "Sacrifice," just go outside and bang your head against the nearest tree for an hour...believe me you'll feel better in the long run.

Spoiler: Why did Lee bring the thug out with him from the bathroom? He's an intelligent guy, right? Did he not see this play coming?

Quote:

Spoiler: Hmmm...I've got a hostage.
But they've got hostages...plural.
I'll have to threaten my thug to show the other thugs I mean business.
They'll have to up the ante and really threaten to shoot someone.
I can't let that happen...I'm the good guy.
Fuuuuuck....

And check...and mate.

Second, Where the fuck is Cloud 9? Is it millions of miles across the galaxy...hidden from sight. No. It's ten minutes....right over there. Load up some marines. Take 'em out for a walk. I know...instead let's leave it all up to Hawaiian shirt guy and Kara Thrace. Let's set aside the fact that the Cloud 9 Bar & Grill is impregnable as long as that stupid door is down. Why didn't they throw something under the door when Kara's cover was blown? Fuck that tear gas, flash bang, light fog thing to cover our incredibly awkward move under the door conveniently located right out there in the open. Let's just duck and shoot a whole bunch. Cover's for pussies.

And while we're on the subject of Captain Thrace.... why was she even in the story? She was there so the writers could explore (for all of about 5 minutes, by the way) that notion of Lee getting shot by friendly fire (*Gasp! I can't believe I shot Lee!). CSI had a two hour special with this as one of their main threads...it was pedantic then as well.

And perhaps the biggest disappointment...They killed Billy. As soon as Billy made himself known at that little meeting of the minds during the wireless broadcast, I knew ol' Bill was getting put down for good.

It's irritating to watch a show develop, to see the writing get better progressively each week and then see a slip-shod, formulaic, trite, piece-of-junk like this on my television set.

thesupermikey · 02-11-2006, 01:22 PM

im still mixed about this weeks show as well. this is the 3rd episode in a row where they set yup characters to go to very drak places without moving the story as a hole forword.

I can only hope that they are going somewhere bigger with all of this.

I find it kinda, cheese? that they are moving the story forword in a two part epsides, leaving the rest of the stories to feel like filler.

Kadath · 02-11-2006, 01:33 PM

guthmund: I agree. Spoiler: It seemed like they killed Billy for no reason, just to give the whole event more drama. As for Adama's ploy, that was the most transparent thing I've ever seen.
Very weak. Perhaps the next episode will be better.

MahlerIsGod · 02-11-2006, 01:59 PM

I have to say I have been rather disappointed with the past three or so episodes. They just dont seem up to normal standard of the past season. The black market episode would have been OK except its resolution was far too easy and trite. I like the "Red Baron" attempt but the Space: Above and Beyond version was far (Far!!!!!) superior. I guess the problem is that when the episodes focus is on Starbuck the episode lacks focus, direction, etc. as she cant act. I have no problem with a female Starbuck just give us one who can act!

thesupermikey · 02-11-2006, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Kadath

guthmund: I agree. Spoiler: It seemed like they killed Billy for no reason, just to give the whole event more drama. As for Adama's ploy, that was the most transparent thing I've ever seen.
Very weak. Perhaps the next episode will be better.

Spoiler: in the case of the body, we know that there is a dead body for the old boomer. There is no way of knowing if the fleet at large know that this was a differant boomer than the one that tryed adama.

As for Billy, in the podcasts back last season? Moore said that the guy who played billy was doing pilots for another show, so killing him may of been a way to get him out of the show <shrug>

spectre · 02-11-2006, 05:23 PM

I think this could be setting things up pretty well. Not everything is perfect within the fleet. People are growing tired of running and following without knowing a lot of what's going on. Spoiler: And with Lucy Lawless' cylon reporter character on board, who knows what kind of shit she can stir up. Tensions are heating up and all of a sudden she releases a report that could bring about a lot of infighting. That's one way it can go.

japhyryder · 02-17-2006, 12:41 PM

Yawn.... Just finished watching it to TIVO last night. standard hostage show... come on now move the plot a bit... please

Willravel · 02-17-2006, 01:26 PM

Billy - a.k.a. Paul Campbell - has beeen ofered a lead in a pilot as I understand it. he is also in a new Al Pacino movie called 88 Minutes coming out soon. Being a past of a supporting cast can be limiting for someone who's career is beginning to blossom. While I would have chosen to stay on Battlestar, I understand his decision.

In order to get the proper context for the episode and even the season and even series over all, you need to listen to the podcasts. Spoiler: It was necessary to examine the differing persons and perspectives in the fleet. The show, while clearly not one dimentional by any measure, could end up being a character driven military drama a la Band of Brothers. In order to give a better scope of the universe we are examining, it is necessary to show many different perspectives and situations. If we were to skip the "Black Market"s or "Sacrafice"s, we could lose our perspective on the overall picture of what's left of humanity. I also suspect that these two episodes, while nothing special alone, will lend to the story later on.

guthmund · 02-17-2006, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by willravel

In order to get the proper context for the episode and even the season and even series over all, you need to listen to the podcasts. It was necessary to examine the differing persons and perspectives in the fleet. The show, while clearly not one dimentional by any measure, could end up being a character driven military drama a la Band of Brothers. In order to give a better scope of the universe we are examining, it is necessary to show many different perspectives and situations. If we were to skip the "Black Market"s or "Sacrafice"s, we could lose our perspective on the overall picture of what's left of humanity. I also suspect that these two episodes, while nothing special alone, will lend to the story later on.

I'm not sure why you 'spoiler'ed' that out...

I agree. I think when stories like Black Market and Sacrifice are written well they add a lot to a series. You mention Band of Brothers...some of my favorite episodes from that series are episodes that didn't necessarily move the 'big picture' along. They just weren't written all that well, which is irritating because I've seen some damn good writing on this show, not to mention a damn fine acting troupe as well.

I knew there were some scheduling conflicts with Campbell last season. Kudos to him for moving up. I just don't think that excuses the piss poor way the writers did him in. Anything's got to be better than that trite crap story they stuck him in, no?

Let's hope tonight's show is a bit better...

Mondak · 02-17-2006, 05:23 PM

Guilty until proven innocent.

The way I figure it, these guys have earned a little something from me. It is not just that I am suspending "rational though" just because they have done a good job in the past. In fact, I really didn't dig the episode all that much.

The thing is that "they have a plan" and so far have done a good job spinning this yarn. Looks like they needed to kill Billy. Maybe they mailed in an episode to get the job done. The thing that we didn't ask ourselves is: Why?

I think the focus can now (hopefully slowly and not bash it over our heads) turn to the loss in the president's life. I mean, the President said it herself that Billy is the closest thing to family that she has left. Well, now who will she turn to as a confidant and trusted advisor? What impact will their role have? I think those are the questions that are far more interesting than the swiss cheese holes in the script last week.

Speaking of... I agree about the whole Apollo hostage thing. There is no WAY that Apollo is that stupid. The fact that it makes me mad is becuase I know him. They did a good job developing the charachter and THAT is why it is a good show. Lets stop waiting for the show to jump the shark and see what develops.

japhyryder · 02-17-2006, 08:03 PM

HOLY FRACKING SHIT on the east coast just saw tonights... I won't spoil it but it just changes EVERYTHING!!!! and it is not what you expect either!!!!

WATCH IT NOW!!!!

Willravel · 02-17-2006, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by japhyryder

HOLY FRACKING SHIT on the east coast just saw tonights... I won't spoil it but it just changes EVERYTHING!!!! and it is not what you expect either!!!!

WATCH IT NOW!!!!

Done and done. This episode was amazing. We're building for the season ender already.

japhyryder · 02-17-2006, 08:21 PM

The drama that is happening, better then the best daytime soap, but with spaceships, robots, and GUNS!!!.

Did you catch next weeks preview, that looks like it could be really good. Quite a twist isn't it.

guthmund · 02-17-2006, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mondak

Speaking of... I agree about the whole Apollo hostage thing. There is no WAY that Apollo is that stupid. The fact that it makes me mad is becuase I know him. They did a good job developing the charachter and THAT is why it is a good show. Lets stop waiting for the show to jump the shark and see what develops.

See? It moved a step in the right direction tonight, eh?

Although I'm getting real tired of the expendable character file they've been rifling through these past weeks...Bill Duke, "Scar", Billy (still had to be a better way to do that...) and now....see? I can't even remember his frakkin' name. Commander finely-tuned watch..guy?

/off to listen to the podcast...

Mondak · 02-22-2006, 07:10 AM

Have I mentioned that I like this show? Good times man.

Sometimes they make a charachter a little too stupid to fit the story. Commander finely tuned watch disobays Adama the very first oportunity to do so? That seems awfully odd to me. I mean - Adama saw something in him and had some sort of kinship with him on some level right? Was there nothing reciprocated? What did he think it would be like when he got back even if he did get his pilots back? I mean what is the negative in having a flight of Raptors go there and check it out? What was the downside to doing that versus taking the whole fraking Pegasus there?

Great episode though either way. eff Baltar.

guthmund · 02-22-2006, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mondak

Great episode though either way. eff Baltar.

*GASP!

I absolutely agree about the raptors. Why take the whole gorram battlestar when a couple of raptors and a handful of vipers could do the job just as well?

I also agree that it was a little too soon to pull the 'insubordinate/incompetent commanding officer over his head' bit. Cain dead, Fisk (was his name Fisk?) strangled....I can understand the necessity for story purposes, but to kill off another Pegasus CO to do it? I don't know.

Baltar running for President? I got chills....they're multiplyin'

pixelbend · 02-22-2006, 09:10 AM

Is the command of the Pegasus cursed? Losing three COs in one season, and now Apollo is on the chopping block. Is this a sign of things to come? hmmmm?

Also, La President Whatsername already knows (or at least strongly suspects) Baltar is a Cylon conspiritor (i.e. visions from her deathbed). If I were her, I'd have a spy follow him around and get footage of him talking and making out with himself.

eff Baltar and the Blond he rode in on.

Willravel · 02-22-2006, 09:29 AM

No Podcast makes Willravel go crazy!!!!

Stupendis episode. John Heard's Commander Barry Garner did a much better job than Bill Duke's Phelan back on Black market. Note to Battlestar ppl, if you're going the b list celebrity route, be sure your b list celeb can act (and don't write him into a corner). With Apollo as the new CO of the Beast, I doubt we'll see another dead Pegasus Captian. Does this mean Starbuck will be promoted to major over both viper wings?

Ahhh Baltar. Is there a better character in modern entertainment? I doubt it. The only problem I had with it is he didn't take any steps to hide the fact that he was back stabbling President Roslin. Baltar is a coward. Frankly, either his character has grown a great deal of whevos in a very short time, which is possible considering the bomb, or this is a trick. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Spoiler: "Luckely I made the initial calculations on these figures over seven months ago when nobody seemed interested or concerned. All I had to do was factor in the numbers from the Pegasus crew, took me hardley any time at all, and I didn't mind. Look, I'll save you the bother, you neednt read the report. If we continue on our present course, withing the next 18 years the human race will simply be extinct.

and then

Spoiler: "It is true in light of recent events the president may have lost support in some quarters. I would ask the people to understand that if this is an extreme decision, we live in extreme times. The decision has been made with good faith. I, however, cannot in good conscience support it. I am so sorry, madam president, but the cylon have no understanding of the meaning of freedom. How could they? They're programmed. Machines. Every time you take away one of our freedoms, every time you restrict of curtail one of our rights, we take one step closer to being like them. As the Vice President, it's my responsibility to follow the administration. As president, I shall have no such strictures. Given the current situation, I'm afriad that I have no alternative to anounce that I am, as of now, a candidate for the presidency."

That was the quintessential Baltar moment.

spectre · 02-22-2006, 12:16 PM

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The only problem I had with it is he didn't take any steps to hide the fact that he was back stabbling President Roslin. Baltar is a coward. Frankly, either his character has grown a great deal of whevos in a very short time, which is possible considering the bomb, or this is a trick. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Actually, to me, it sounds exactly like something he would do. Yes, he's a coward, but he's also a press whore and will say or do anything to look good on camera. I can't remember which episode it was, but the blonde cylon manipulated him into doing something he was afraid to do because he'd end up looking good on tv for it.

01-27-2006, 09:12 PM	#241 (permalink)
thesupermikey I got blisters on me fingers!!! Location: In my stressless expectation free zone.	i wont say a lot about galactica till for a bit, but i just want to say that tonight's episode was lacking, after the great post brake season, tonights really fell flat to me. i wont say anymore till more people have seen it __________________ If you are not outraged than you are not paying attention! "Reality has a well-known liberal bias" - Steven Colbert

01-27-2006, 09:57 PM	#243 (permalink)
thesupermikey I got blisters on me fingers!!! Location: In my stressless expectation free zone.	it was cool to see something other than the military side. its nice to be reminded that there is a civilian world. __________________ If you are not outraged than you are not paying attention! "Reality has a well-known liberal bias" - Steven Colbert

01-28-2006, 12:11 PM	#244 (permalink)
ziadel Myrmidon Location: In the twilight and mist.	I also found the last episode lacking. I'm just hoping they had to do something simple to save some $$ for some big espiode that is forthcoming. next episode looks good tho, but wtf, why arent they going to earth? __________________ Ron Paul '08 Vote for Freedom Go ahead and google Dr. Ron Paul. You'll like what you read.

01-30-2006, 08:43 AM	#245 (permalink)
Kadath Muffled Location: Camazotz	I actually really liked it. It was cool to see the seamy underbelly of the fleet, and Apollo's character needed some development -- he was just duty and honor until lately. __________________ it's quiet in here

01-30-2006, 10:47 AM	#246 (permalink)
guthmund big damn hero	The whole episode felt too "neat." The whole problem is introduced, explained and solved in about 45 minutes. I didn't really get that the black market was a threat. In fact, it wasn't until Apollo found the kids on Prometheus (and what a cheap way to do it...) that I felt the market could mean trouble. I didn't really get the bad guy. I mean, I understand he's the bad guy because he's wearing a fancy suit and does the whole 'bad-guy' speech at the end, but he must not have been too bad a guy because this is the first time I'm hearing about him. I liked the bit between Tigh and Apollo. I really liked Baltar's little beat with the President, and it's nice that they're fleshing Apollo out a bit more, but that's about it.... __________________ No signature. None. Seriously.

01-27-2006, 09:18 PM	#242 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	I truely enjoyed it. Apollo has been lacking in screetime, and backstory.

01-30-2006, 07:28 PM	#247 (permalink)
Mondak Industrialist Location: Southern California	Agreed - too neat - why not give us little bites of that episode over 3 episodes so that we can decide that guy is bad. __________________ All truth passes through three stages: First it is ridiculed Second, it is violently opposed and Third, it is accepted as self-evident. ARTHUR SCHOPENHAUER (1788-1860)

01-31-2006, 06:34 AM	#248 (permalink)
guthmund big damn hero	Exactly. I think Phalen, (I guess...that's how it showed up under CC...) could have been a pretty interesting addition to the show. Bill Duke can play a wonderful psychopath....why not let him go the distance and air out his chops or, perhaps, some other confusing, obscure acting cliche? __________________ No signature. None. Seriously.

02-01-2006, 04:15 AM	#251 (permalink)
japhyryder no one special Location: Charlotte, NC	definately to neat of an episode, I am glad the are exploring Appolo's past some. Has the fleet figured out where they are going yet? __________________ It's only entertainment, someone's sick idea of a joke.

02-03-2006, 11:43 PM	#253 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	So this week we have the introduction of a super-raider (Jeff George?), and the knowledge that raiders reincarnate just like the clones. Quite some info there. NOT ONLY THIS, but Starbuck and Apollo come to within an inch of going all the way. Then Starbuck shows that she is an ambrosiaholic (alcoholic). Kat is better than Starbuck because Starbuck is feeing guilty and lonely and helpless and a bit randy, and pissed. Wow. This was easily one of the 8 best episodes of BG yet. I can't wait for next week. This show is making Atlantis look like garbage, IMHO.

02-04-2006, 01:32 AM	#254 (permalink)
Fremen With a mustache, the cool factor would be too much Location: left side of my couch, East Texas	Pretty great episode. I liked the idea of a Cylon Red Baron. This character Kat gets on my nerves like the Ana Lucia character does in Lost. Not sure if it's the actress or the character yet, like I am with M. Rodriguez. __________________ Google

02-04-2006, 02:01 AM	#255 (permalink)
stevie667 Too Awesome for Aardvarks Location: Angloland	Man, i'm so far behind you guys. I hope they give tigh some good episodes, i was really starting to despise him until adama woke up. __________________ Office hours have changed. Please call during office hours for more information.

02-04-2006, 11:42 AM	#257 (permalink)
guthmund big damn hero	You're becoming a bit obsessed, no? Future of the fleet, my friend, future of the fleet. Excellent episode. I could have done without all the redundant flashbacks especially during the dogfight, but...you know..I guess they had to stretch the effects budget, eh? You're right, Mondak. I kept expecting Kara to beat the living dogsnot out of her, certainly after Kat punched her in the ready room. I kept expecting the proto-typical "top gun" shit and...I was pleasantly surprised when it didn't happen. It was an excellent episode. By the way, anybody else find it funny when Helo started talking about Kat as a young hot shot pilot "lookin' to make her bones?" I just about choked on my orange juice. __________________ No signature. None. Seriously.

02-04-2006, 01:38 PM	#258 (permalink)
thesupermikey I got blisters on me fingers!!! Location: In my stressless expectation free zone.	Kara is such a wonderfuly dark/flawed character. Last nights epsiode really drove that home. I really dig the new what that they are shoting the rapter seans. its cool to see more than just head on view of the pilot throw. It might well be noted that the plot of this episode is a lot like and epsidoe of "Space: above and beyond" __________________ If you are not outraged than you are not paying attention! "Reality has a well-known liberal bias" - Steven Colbert

02-04-2006, 09:34 PM	#259 (permalink)
mrklixx President Rick Location: location location	I actually thought for a half a second that they might actually "kill off" Starbuck. __________________ This post is content. If you don't like it then you are not content. Or perhaps just incontinent. This is not a link - Do not click here I hate animated avatars.

02-11-2006, 01:22 PM	#263 (permalink)
thesupermikey I got blisters on me fingers!!! Location: In my stressless expectation free zone.	im still mixed about this weeks show as well. this is the 3rd episode in a row where they set yup characters to go to very drak places without moving the story as a hole forword. I can only hope that they are going somewhere bigger with all of this. I find it kinda, cheese? that they are moving the story forword in a two part epsides, leaving the rest of the stories to feel like filler. __________________ If you are not outraged than you are not paying attention! "Reality has a well-known liberal bias" - Steven Colbert

02-11-2006, 01:33 PM	#264 (permalink)
Kadath Muffled Location: Camazotz	guthmund: I agree. Spoiler: It seemed like they killed Billy for no reason, just to give the whole event more drama. As for Adama's ploy, that was the most transparent thing I've ever seen. Very weak. Perhaps the next episode will be better. __________________ it's quiet in here

02-11-2006, 01:59 PM	#265 (permalink)
MahlerIsGod At The Globe Showing Will How Its Done Location: London/Elysium	I have to say I have been rather disappointed with the past three or so episodes. They just dont seem up to normal standard of the past season. The black market episode would have been OK except its resolution was far too easy and trite. I like the "Red Baron" attempt but the Space: Above and Beyond version was far (Far!!!!!) superior. I guess the problem is that when the episodes focus is on Starbuck the episode lacks focus, direction, etc. as she cant act. I have no problem with a female Starbuck just give us one who can act! __________________ "But a work of art is a conscious human effort that has to do with communication. It is that or its nothing. When an accident is applauded as a work of art, when a cult grows up around the deliciousness of inadvertent beauty, we are in the presence of the greatest decadence the West has known in its history."

02-11-2006, 05:23 PM	#267 (permalink)
spectre Junkie	I think this could be setting things up pretty well. Not everything is perfect within the fleet. People are growing tired of running and following without knowing a lot of what's going on. Spoiler: And with Lucy Lawless' cylon reporter character on board, who knows what kind of shit she can stir up. Tensions are heating up and all of a sudden she releases a report that could bring about a lot of infighting. That's one way it can go. __________________ "Fuck these chains No goddamn slave I will be different" ~ Machine Head

02-17-2006, 12:41 PM	#268 (permalink)
japhyryder no one special Location: Charlotte, NC	Yawn.... Just finished watching it to TIVO last night. standard hostage show... come on now move the plot a bit... please __________________ It's only entertainment, someone's sick idea of a joke.

02-17-2006, 01:26 PM	#269 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	Billy - a.k.a. Paul Campbell - has beeen ofered a lead in a pilot as I understand it. he is also in a new Al Pacino movie called 88 Minutes coming out soon. Being a past of a supporting cast can be limiting for someone who's career is beginning to blossom. While I would have chosen to stay on Battlestar, I understand his decision. In order to get the proper context for the episode and even the season and even series over all, you need to listen to the podcasts. Spoiler: It was necessary to examine the differing persons and perspectives in the fleet. The show, while clearly not one dimentional by any measure, could end up being a character driven military drama a la Band of Brothers. In order to give a better scope of the universe we are examining, it is necessary to show many different perspectives and situations. If we were to skip the "Black Market"s or "Sacrafice"s, we could lose our perspective on the overall picture of what's left of humanity. I also suspect that these two episodes, while nothing special alone, will lend to the story later on.

02-17-2006, 05:23 PM	#271 (permalink)
Mondak Industrialist Location: Southern California	Guilty until proven innocent. The way I figure it, these guys have earned a little something from me. It is not just that I am suspending "rational though" just because they have done a good job in the past. In fact, I really didn't dig the episode all that much. The thing is that "they have a plan" and so far have done a good job spinning this yarn. Looks like they needed to kill Billy. Maybe they mailed in an episode to get the job done. The thing that we didn't ask ourselves is: Why? I think the focus can now (hopefully slowly and not bash it over our heads) turn to the loss in the president's life. I mean, the President said it herself that Billy is the closest thing to family that she has left. Well, now who will she turn to as a confidant and trusted advisor? What impact will their role have? I think those are the questions that are far more interesting than the swiss cheese holes in the script last week. Speaking of... I agree about the whole Apollo hostage thing. There is no WAY that Apollo is that stupid. The fact that it makes me mad is becuase I know him. They did a good job developing the charachter and THAT is why it is a good show. Lets stop waiting for the show to jump the shark and see what develops. __________________ All truth passes through three stages: First it is ridiculed Second, it is violently opposed and Third, it is accepted as self-evident. ARTHUR SCHOPENHAUER (1788-1860)

02-17-2006, 08:03 PM	#272 (permalink)
japhyryder no one special Location: Charlotte, NC	HOLY FRACKING SHIT on the east coast just saw tonights... I won't spoil it but it just changes EVERYTHING!!!! and it is not what you expect either!!!! WATCH IT NOW!!!! __________________ It's only entertainment, someone's sick idea of a joke.

02-17-2006, 08:21 PM	#274 (permalink)
japhyryder no one special Location: Charlotte, NC	The drama that is happening, better then the best daytime soap, but with spaceships, robots, and GUNS!!!. Did you catch next weeks preview, that looks like it could be really good. Quite a twist isn't it. __________________ It's only entertainment, someone's sick idea of a joke.

02-22-2006, 07:10 AM	#276 (permalink)
Mondak Industrialist Location: Southern California	Have I mentioned that I like this show? Good times man. Sometimes they make a charachter a little too stupid to fit the story. Commander finely tuned watch disobays Adama the very first oportunity to do so? That seems awfully odd to me. I mean - Adama saw something in him and had some sort of kinship with him on some level right? Was there nothing reciprocated? What did he think it would be like when he got back even if he did get his pilots back? I mean what is the negative in having a flight of Raptors go there and check it out? What was the downside to doing that versus taking the whole fraking Pegasus there? Great episode though either way. eff Baltar. __________________ All truth passes through three stages: First it is ridiculed Second, it is violently opposed and Third, it is accepted as self-evident. ARTHUR SCHOPENHAUER (1788-1860)

02-22-2006, 09:10 AM	#278 (permalink)
pixelbend Too hot in the hot tub!	Is the command of the Pegasus cursed? Losing three COs in one season, and now Apollo is on the chopping block. Is this a sign of things to come? hmmmm? Also, La President Whatsername already knows (or at least strongly suspects) Baltar is a Cylon conspiritor (i.e. visions from her deathbed). If I were her, I'd have a spy follow him around and get footage of him talking and making out with himself. eff Baltar and the Blond he rode in on. __________________ But I don't want ANY Spam!

02-22-2006, 09:29 AM	#279 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	No Podcast makes Willravel go crazy!!!! Stupendis episode. John Heard's Commander Barry Garner did a much better job than Bill Duke's Phelan back on Black market. Note to Battlestar ppl, if you're going the b list celebrity route, be sure your b list celeb can act (and don't write him into a corner). With Apollo as the new CO of the Beast, I doubt we'll see another dead Pegasus Captian. Does this mean Starbuck will be promoted to major over both viper wings? Ahhh Baltar. Is there a better character in modern entertainment? I doubt it. The only problem I had with it is he didn't take any steps to hide the fact that he was back stabbling President Roslin. Baltar is a coward. Frankly, either his character has grown a great deal of whevos in a very short time, which is possible considering the bomb, or this is a trick. I guess we'll have to wait and see. Spoiler: "Luckely I made the initial calculations on these figures over seven months ago when nobody seemed interested or concerned. All I had to do was factor in the numbers from the Pegasus crew, took me hardley any time at all, and I didn't mind. Look, I'll save you the bother, you neednt read the report. If we continue on our present course, withing the next 18 years the human race will simply be extinct. and then Spoiler: "It is true in light of recent events the president may have lost support in some quarters. I would ask the people to understand that if this is an extreme decision, we live in extreme times. The decision has been made with good faith. I, however, cannot in good conscience support it. I am so sorry, madam president, but the cylon have no understanding of the meaning of freedom. How could they? They're programmed. Machines. Every time you take away one of our freedoms, every time you restrict of curtail one of our rights, we take one step closer to being like them. As the Vice President, it's my responsibility to follow the administration. As president, I shall have no such strictures. Given the current situation, I'm afriad that I have no alternative to anounce that I am, as of now, a candidate for the presidency." That was the quintessential Baltar moment.