floonine

anime is teh fun, I would like to have a specific place to find out more about it. but that's just me

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arael

i would LOVE to have an anime forum!! OTAKU OF TFP !! UNITE!!!

gwr_gwir

in the interests of promoting anime discussion... what do you all think about the various social issues and problems presented in Jin-Roh?

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hawkeye

I don't know if this is the right thread to ask this, but does anybody have//know where to get a list of the castor shells used in Outlaw Star? (A very good anime, BTW, I reccomend it.)

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gwr_gwir

also, what are people's ops on what happened in the End of Evangelion, especially to shinji and rei? what about the significance of the indian names used for Spike and Jet in Cowboy Bebop? what do you think about the plot twists in the later episodes of Love Hina, involving the Narusegawa love triangle, as it were? intelligent discussion, people. that's the only way you're gonna get an anime forum. but if that's too hard, and all you want to say is "this anime is good, because it is", then screw that... and you.

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Peutetre

I thought Jin-Roh was pretty interesting.. not to mention amazing to watch.. It was like it wasn't actually animated. It has been quite a while since I saw it.. but I remember having such an empty feeling at the end.. like I expected more out of the characters. It is hard to think of someone having so much control over your thoughts, feelings and actions.

gwr_gwir

mm. if you expected more out of the characters, and liked Jin-Roh, have you tried the series "Now and Then, Here and There"?

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Tempboy

I'm currently in the process of watching Cowboy Bebop, Gundam Seed, Ikkitousen, Love Hina, with some Naruto spattered here and there. Gonna try and watch Great Teacher Onizuka too.

Anime's great.
I'd consider buying manga, but it's so freakin' expensive.

Peutetre

Thanks for the suggestion! I have heard of the series before but hadn't watched it. Here is a link to a review of the series if anyone is interested http://animeacademy.com/library/ntht/ntht.html it seems like a really good series!

If anyone is interested I just found out that Azumanga Daioh manga is out! I just picked up the first book. Azumanga Daioh is a comic strip in Japan that was made into Anime. The anime is cute, funny and moving a great series for men and women to watch. The manga should be even better... ADV is also going to release the anime series as well but i'm not sure when.

Asshole Lover

*spoilers*

this comedic love triangle(s) turned from good to great when they changed Keitaro. now that keitaro is the stud of the dorm and all the girl's jaws drop at what he has become, then it starts getting good.

most of the crushes are completely comic folly with the exception of 2: naru and mutsumi. he actually had to make a decision at one point between those two. the others falling in love with keitaro are simply school girl crushes meant for comedy. motoko's attraction at the end is almost like an exclamation point showing how keitaro has changed and how motoko has grown up as well.

it shocked me to find out the last book is coming out this week. i felt the best stories were to come of how keitaro and naru will do together as well as the others would react to them. but i guess i understand how this is a logical time to just end it before it got stupid.

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Ganguro

wow and you wont check out chobits because it's girly? *snickers*
I assume you've seen Love Hina again.. right?

im2smrt4u

I just saw the Hellsing DVDs in Suncoast today. Anyone know if there is a box set of these? If not, where can I buy them for less than $30 each?

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Ganguro

yes i've seen the box set at our local suncoast and Fry's. You can also order them online try amazon or barns and noble..

here is the info i gleamed off animeondvd.com

Hope that helps!
You're still paying about 10 bucks an episode either way..
That's pretty much standard for most anime series unless you are looking at Eva, Robotech, DBZ, etc...

On a somewhat realted note, an article published by Nikkei Business Publications about the common practice of anime productions being financed by groups of investors on the basis of loans based on copyright profit potential may be of interest to English speaking anime fans primarily because it includes a breakdown of how much it costs to produce anime. According to the article:

An average current anime TV episode has a budget of 10 to 13 million yen ($85,000 - $111,000).

A year-around anime TV series (shows like Inuyasha, Naruto, One Piece, Detective Conan) that airs through 4 "kuru" (a 13 week TV "season") costs 500 to 700 million yen ($4.3 - 6 million) to produce.

An average theatrical film may cost 100 to 300 million yen ($850,000 - $2.56 million), but big budget films like Innocence, Steamboy and Studio Ghibli films can have budgets as large as 2 billion yen (as much as 17 million American).

So now you know part of the reason why anime costs so much here in the states. The other part is coporate greed, but it's nice to see some concrete numbers associated with the production for once. Abnimated features are chaper to make than live action ones, but still arent cheap. I remember reading some info a while ago about the now defunct Clerks:animated series and even cutting costs it was costing ABC about 10 grand an episode to produce.


The moral of the story: Dont download liscensed anime.. you're ripping off investors

Any thoughts on this?

Asshole Lover

i actually picked up chobits. it's decent so far, kind of less interesting because it's not a comedy like love hina...

i think love hina is not too girly because it is a comedy (mixed in action and drama to a lesser degree). you take in everything but at the end it's completely meant to be humorous more than dramatic. chobits is not really girly either imo but those other books you guys mentioned are straight forward love stories.

by the way...i'm talking about the manga

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gwr_gwir

mm. as to cheap anime dvd - try these two sites, in this order: http://www.deepdiscountdvd.com (props to hawkeye for that one) and http://www.discountanimedvd.com

topic of interest: a live-action Neon Genesis Evangelion movie is in the makings. supposedly to be done by the same studios as are doing Lord of the Rings Trilogy, currently, in association with GAINAX. slight problem, though, is that I've heard the storyline isn't going to be "bound" by what happens in the series Neon Genesis Evangelion. Here's hoping it doesn't turn out like the massive fanfic known as Garden of Eva.

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agentsmith

I vote yes on Anime Forum.

Ganguro

Im not sure of exact dates Holtmate, but i know you can preorder the Trigun manga for 10.50 right now. Retail for it is going to be about 15 bucks a volume. Darkhorse is realisng it.. how odd.

gwr_gwir : I've heard about the evangaleon movie for a while now. Personally im not that excited about it. I liked the series a bit, but it's a little too complicated to be pulled off in a 2 hour block. A live action version could trim off some of the "extra" story, but the fact of the matter is.. the manga tells the store a heck of a lot better than the anime did. There is just too much to cover in such a short time span. Plus i dont know if the western world is ready to deal with minors being so deeply involved in "adult" situations.
ex: Shinji's relationship with his father, is abandomnent issues, self loathing, asuka's abandoment issues, dealing with being a child in a position of power, Rei's overall existence, etc...
any thoughts?

agentsmith: this wasn't a poll, but thanks for "voting" !

gwr_gwir

lesse... as far as you know - is the NGE movie supposed to be the entire series in a two hour block, or is the plotline of the movie supposed to be independant of the series? agreed, the manga covers the story better than the series does, but that's just the nature of manga, and indeed, books in general. As to the readiness of the western world... I don't believe it's ready, but I know also that not everyone would want to go see the movie - some might boycott it for said situations, but they wouldn't be the ones paying to watch it, for the most part. mm. as to Shinji's relationship with his father - I personally believe that Gendo tried to make Shinji that way purposely, so that he (Shinji) would function at the End better than he would if a loving relationship with a father figure was there (from Gendo's POV, that is). As to Rei's existence, I've heard a few different things - mostly what I believe on that note was that she was the mother-eve figure of the End, and that her existence, first and foremost, was that purpose - helping to kill the Angels was secondary. As to Askuka's abandonment issues, I think that's what made her act the way she did, when given power - the relentlessness, the need to be "#1", the constant insults, etc. I think her role was primarily the destruction of the Angels, and not really a major part of the End, except perhaps by accident. thoughts on the Sephirothic Tree that appears when Shinji is "crucified", as it were? or on Adam? or on Terminal Dogma and the Magi?

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CyN1caL

I think an anime forum would be a great idea. I would love to get some input on some of the shows I've watched/planning to watch, without having to deal with 10 year olds who only like Dragonball Z.

Here's a list of what I've watched and whatnot in the anime world:

Finished Series:
Trigun
Completed Series:
Hellsing
Cowboy Bebop
Neon Genisis Evangelion <3
Gundam Wing
Arcade Gamer Fubuki
Full Metal Panic!
Street Fighter 2V
Big O Season 1
FLCL
Vision of Escaflowne
Blue Gender
Serial Experiments Lain

Still watching series:
Naruto (still airing)
Gundam Seed (still airing)
Ghost in the Shell - Stand Alone Complex (still airing?)
Gad Guard (Still airing)
Full Metal Panic? Fumofuu
Big O Season 2
Star Ocean EX
RahXepheon
Wolf's Rain
Great Teacher Onizuka


Movies:
Akira
Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust
Ghost in the Shell
Cowboy Bebop: Knockin' On Heaven's Door
Evangelion - Death and Rebirth
The End of Evangelion
Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz
Escaflowne - The Movie

Planning to watch:
Gasaraki
Martian Successor Nadesico
Dai-Guard
Noir
Spriggan (movie)
Excel Saga
Heat Guy J
Betterman
Dual
Jin-Roh (movie)
Witch Hunter Robin

I would love to be able to get input on what people think about what the heck happened in Serial Experiments Lain, or what Evangelion ment to you. The maturity level of TFP would warent some great answers from people, which would be great if you ask me.

Ganguro

Did you like Lain? because i liked it somewhat (it's been a while since i've seen it), but I didnt like Niea under 7 the first time i saw that series, and Im still eyeballing the new series written by the creator.. Habane Renmei i think

CyN1caL

It was alright. I tend to watch things when I just feel like laying down (I output them to my tv and watch it from my bed) and many times, I fell asleep while watching Lain.

I just recently finished it, and it was alright I guess. I thought I would like it a lot more than I did, because I love Evangelion, which is a great mind-trip series, much like Lain is. But I guess when the characters just sort of stare for minutes on end and there is no actual action, it just makes it boring really.

It was an interesting story I guess, it was just difficult to keep myself from being overly bored by it.

hawkeye

Are you telling me that there is a second FMP series??
I am watching the first one as the dvds come out and Really loving it, if there is more, that would be awesome.

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CyN1caL

Yep, a 15 part/11 episode (some episodes are two 10 minute episodes in one) and it is so far based (it is still airing) on Sagara being with Chidori in school, and what she puts up with while he is trying to protect her. So far it has been INCREDIBLY hilarious. Lots of really funny stuff in it. Very much worth the watch.

dragonhawk

I love Bubblegum Crisis/Crash and the new stuff Bubblegum Crisis 2040.

Anyone here seen them? Comments?

Priss Rules!

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gwr_gwir

haven't seen bubblegum crisis or crash, but they look decent. as to Serial Experiments: Lain, I thought it was a good series overall - something of a mind trip, but a bit too existential for my taste. interesting storyline and plot twists, though. Has anyone here seen Perfect Blue, Kite, or Memories? (I know at least one of you has seen Kite, and has beaten me for that before. no more beatings, mm?)

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Ganguro

I've seen Kite and Perfect Blue is a great standalone psychological drama. Kite is the same movie as Mezzoforte I believe, and I didnt like it too much. Reminded me a lot of Noir, but not executed as well.

Baldrick

I just watched the first DVD of a series Pioneer has coming out in November - Last Exile. Wow! It was absolutely fantastic, and I highly recommend it!

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gwr_gwir

what's Last Exile about? how's the animation? in short, why do you recommend it, Baldrick?

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Ganguro

aww damn it got liscensed?

Last exile is a GREAT series.
It is basicly a civil war taking between two kingdoms. The animation is done by Gonzo and is really goof, and the series overall is great
Great music, good story, great visuals..
I guess i'll be making a trip to suncoast soon..

gwr_gwir

why not just get it from discountanimedvd.com? - http://www.discountanimedvd.com/dvd_...asp?dvdno=6282

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Baldrick

Sorry, should have mentioned that in my original post. It's Gonzo's tenth anniversary series, and they definitely deliver.

The animation is absolutely brilliant, and I really love the soundtrack. It all has a very retro-futuristic feel to it. Basically, the story revolves around two "porters" who make their business flying letters between parties. In one of their deliveries, they get caught between two warring factions in a civil war.

The screener only had the first two episodes on it, but wow! It's really the feel of the series that got me hooked. The first couple of battle scenes reminded me of the old "chivalrous" trench type warfare, but on airships. But even the airships all look like something right out of the fifties! Last Exile truly has a style unlike anything I've seen before.

The story seems to be unravelling slowly, which I like in anime. I hate series that give the whole story up in the first few episodes, and spend the rest of the series just using "filler" because there's nothing new to do with the characters.

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Tempboy

Bumping this... we still need an anime forum!!

A huge number of new series should be starting in the next month or so.. can't wait to see some of them.

Ganguro

in the future.. please dont bump something unless you have something to add to it.
I puposely unstuck the thread because i felt it was unfair to stick it and not stick Spleen's WWE thread or the Family guy thread, etc..
If people are genuinely interested they would search for "anime" and see this and hopefully contribute.
A lot of our memebers are all talk, no action.

That being said.. lets get on the subject here.. What series do you think are comming out next month?
Comming to US DVD? or being produced? It's almost the end of most second season series now, and I know im excited about seeing the next stage of exams in Naruto
but im kinda removed from the anime on DVD scene.. so do tell us..
What's comming out?

WinterScar

Well, Ganguro, this might be a little late... but the new season has already begun! I'm very busy watching Fullmetal Alchemist, Peace Maker Kurogane and some other series. It looks to be an awesome season, and the only trouble I'm having is trying to have time for all the anime.

Also, I'm just wondering: How are the rules of TFP regarding bittorrent links to unlicensed anime? I know a lot of forums have strict rules against warez, but let unlicensed anime slide past. Is it safe to talk about it here?

I'm guessing it is, since we're already talking about the anime, but maybe linking to it isn't allowed.

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Ganguro

Ahh i started to watch Fullmetal Alchemist as well.. thought i totally missed out on FMP..
I seriously dont like mecha anime.

I dont see anything wrong with bittorrent links, just explain what you are linking to, and when it's liscensed the fansub groups will remove the torrent. plus i think there is already a link to http://www.animesuki.com on here somewhere.. if that's what you are getting to; but please feel free to elaborate onwhat series you are watching and how to get them, and why. This is a thread for discussion.. the stage is yours.

nukeu666

ive been downloading anime fom kazaa for about a year now and it keeps getting better! (other than the kazaa part...try dlding at 0.5kbps)

ive dlded about a dozen series and a couple of movies

'grave of the fireflies' is the ONLY movie that has drawn tears from me till now...its so expertly portrayed..i cant bear to watch it again
NGE(neon genesis evangelion) was my 1st series which rocked(still confused about the ending tho)
princess mononoke also rocked
other cool series-flame of recca, chobits, trigun,robotech/macross

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Averett

I'm not at all. I don't get it.


But whatever floats your boat!

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Doesn't do it for me.

JStrider

a lot of the anime groups release anime using BitTorrent... prolly a lot faster then kazaa...

http://www.animesuki.com/

thats one of the best sites for it...

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numist

initial D... I love it...

always on the lokout for more though... trigun was ok...