sherpahigh

I may be off on the letter being faked, but there's something underfoot when she's one of the 3 that don't have the virus and gets to leave the hotel only to be snaped up by Saunders's men. They obviously knew CTU would be coming to the hotel, saw that she went in and at that point they could have started preperations for getting her in their hands. heh... I dunno.

Anyway, as for the show being over the top, it's just that, a show. There are elements in it that are a little off like everyone getting shot and being back to normal a few hours, but I think for the most part they do a pretty good job with it all given the limitations of shooting 24 - 1 hour episodes that are all supposed to take place within one day.

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kutulu

It's not as if they kill off people who are essential to 24 either. Jack's wife - expendable, Nina - irrelevant, Chapelle - not very relevant either. In the meantime, Jack, his daughter, Tony, and Michelle are just as resiliant as anyone in Alias.

wondash

I can't think of a single main or secondary character that was ever killed off on Alias. But it's more than that; every episode is the same... Some Rimbaldi artifact is VERY important. Either the good guys get it or the bad guys get it. It doesn't really matter because it only links the the next 'all important' Rimbaldi artifact.

As for 24, my guess is that Tony will die before the end of this season.

Cuball

the president subplot is so frustrating ... why does this sherry always return ... damn I hate that woman (it's a real bitch)

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kutulu

THe president subplot really should have been left out. It filled time well in the start of the season, but now it's a distraction to what's really going on.

As to last night, who cares if the show has gotten too cheesy, air support rules!

cartmen34

My guess is she'll be off'd, or at least removed from the scene, in this whole "nab the pill bottle" scheme.

or should I say.... that's my HOPE (!!) lol

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wondash

With the capture of Saunders last week, it really seems like the tension has dropped off. Where's the build-up toward the final episode? I think the scene with Saunders heading for the helicopter and Jack calling in the air-strike was the best so far!

ironchef82

I agree. I was worried about how they would extend the tension/excitement level for the last two episodes. At least they put in a nice twist this week that I wasn't expecting...

Spoiler: Julia (Milikan's wife) shot Sherry Palmer and then shot herself.

the_marq

Damnit, I thought last night was the final episode. I was all ready for the climax...then nuthin'.

One more week...

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Cynthetiq

yes that spoiler was a good one. The wife said, sometimes I just wish they woud...

and then it happened.

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kutulu

Last night's ep was pretty good. I liked the murder/suicide thing. How's that going to effect the President's campaign?

Capturing Saunders and breaking him in that episode does kill a lot of the tension, but having them get the bad guy and all 11 vials in the same ep would have been way too much. They do have that LA vial that they have to get also...

The best part of the season is still the helicopter getting blown to shit.

cartmen34

I dunno about the rest of you, but I'm just glad that bitch Sherry got shot. I really hope she doesn't "survive" the wounds and re-appear next season.

And what's with the president's aid? You are trying to cover up a scandal, you *almost* get away clean, and now you are leaving fingerprints all over a suicide victim and getting her blood all over you? C'mon man....run! Run quick...quick like bunny!! Go!

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Cynthetiq

yes but they were lovers... so it could be easily put together, since she did call him before she got there....

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kutulu

No, their both dead. The trailers for the episode said that two people would die. Good riddance.

Lord Humungus

by chance did any of you check out the website Saunders mentioned in the show? If not, here it is http://www.sylviaimports.com.
I think it would be sweet, if season 4 started like this "The following day...". That would be crazy shit!

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I like last nights episode, and I can't wait for next week. The vial in LA has not yet been found. Sharry is now dead, Tony is done. Kinda leaving it abit wide open for next year. Thanks alot Lord Humungus for that link, thats cool. And yea, that would be crazy if the following day was season4.

Kaos

I took a mental note to go to that website then totally forgot. Thanks for the reminder.

And I can't believe I missed last nights episode. I think it's only the 2nd episode I have missed in the 3 seasons it's been on. I will have to go to the 24 website to read the recap.

I really wish they showed a repeat of the show a couple of days later like they did in the first season.

Cynthetiq

two words.

Bit Torrent.

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kutulu

or mIRC

UyEnHeAd

haha i hate watching American Idol and then accidentally catching advertisements for the "24" season, i enjoy just taking a day our of my life and watching them all on dvd

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Stompy

I don't get this show sometimes.

The man is so adamant on releasing this virus for his cause, and of all things, potentially losing his daughter made him stop? Yeah, right.

It REALLY would've made the season much better if he called his bluff so they put his daughter in the infected building so she could die.

It angers me that they build up this fuss around the virus all season long only to have it turn out like THAT. That's on par with those cop out endings to a movie where you find out the main guy is just dreaming or some crap like that.

You'd figure they'd come up with a more intelligent twist as way to get out of a situation like that.

I really hope one of these vials goes off. It makes me mad when the good guys win by chance.

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Gjefflin

I have to say...this is now my most favorite show now that Angel is going off the air. I'm very upset.

Buk

Season Finale looks sweet! All they have to do now is kill off Chloe, and it will be the greatest season ever after finally offing that hoebag wife of the president!

wondash

One word: Tivo

wondash

Check out this story from MSNBC on 24: Is ‘24’ running out of time?

Very funny and very true. I love the comment about Kim!

Cynthetiq

have it.. and when Tivo fails for whatever programming reason (beyond Tivo's abilities like cable box being turned off after a midnight update and reset) So it doesn't help you if you already missed it.

Bit Torrent on the other hand... I can get an episode that I already deleted from my Tivo.

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Stompy

Worst season finale ever.

What an uneventful hour! That guy should've released the virus as soon as he got outta the subway.

What about the event that happened at the end of season 2 w/ the president? That's nice how they never bring it up ever.

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ironchef82

Uneventful?? Are you sure we watched the same episode? I'd defend my point but it requires way too long of a spoiler tag.

Lord Humungus

i dont think i breathed during that.....cant wait for season 4

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Yep. Nothing happened! It was a huge let down.

I'd love to hear arguments stating otherwise.

Spoiler:
Saunders got shot just as he was about to identify the holder of the virus (there goes that "chance" thing I was talking about earlier .. at least it happened in the bad guys' favor this time).

So... the guy takes off, goes into a school, and gets caught. Ok... what's so special about that? If the guy was smart, he would've went to a more crowded area and released the virus. I was hoping he'd release it in the school, but no, another cliche moment where the enemy dicks around enough so that the good guys just so happen to apprehend him. Pure BS.

Another "by chance" thing happened: just as he was about to shoot Chase he got shot by Jack. How many more times is that scenario gonna happen? Those piss me off. Those are SO unrealistic.

The virus was the main plot of the story, and it was wrapped up in the 2nd episode. It was completely uneventful in the sense that nothing special happened. There weren't any surprises at all whatsoever.

The thing with the president just about ended without a word, thus making that entire sub-plot useless filler. He chooses not to run. Mkay... so what about the shit that was on his hand at the end of Season 2? Not a word there. Crappy ending to a very pointless sub-plot. They should've saved Sherry's murder till the last episode.

Tony gets prison. Not really a shocker considering what he did. He was already in custody in the 2nd to last episode.

...and that's pretty much it.


No surprises, twists, or turns at all whatsoever (this is one of the show's trademarks, so to completely leave it out is assinine). All the big surprises happened at the beginning of the season. In season 1, you don't learn Nina is the mole until the 2nd to last episode leaving the last episode as a "holy shit, I gotta watch this." Nothing like that happened this time.

Considering everything was wrapped up in the 2nd to last episode (of season 3), it left me with an honest to god feeling of "...okay, so why should I watch the finale?", but then I thought, "Well, this is 24. Something BIG is gonna happen." ... and nothing did.

Season 1 ended with his wife getting shot and Season 2 ended with the President getting attacked... cliffhangers for the next season.

None of that this time around. WTF? It's like it suddenly went from this very intelligent and highly entertaining show to just another cliche police drama. If they pull this crap again in Season 4, I'm done. This is the ONLY regular TV drama I watch, and the reason being it's not like the other shows... but with what they just did, I'm starting to believe they're gonna mess things up even more in the future.

Again with Saunders... the man was under torture for 2 years and he's suddenly gonna turn because they threaten his daughter? They really expect people to be that gullible and believe that?

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Tempboy

On the contrary.. if we expect a twist to the story, and they don't give one to us.. doesn't that make it a surprise?

I'd argue that including some monumentous event at the end of every season would be less 'realistic'. After a threat is neutralized.. what's wrong with them just going home?

Stompy

Well, as far as "realism" goes, it only goes so far. Ever notice that the BEST events happen every hour on the hour? If they were real, they'd probably comment, "Wow, everytime the hour changes, something fucked up happens."

In that sense, it's part of the show. It's designed to make you want to watch the next episode, just like the cliffhangers at the end of the season make you want to see the next season.

I think there's a big difference between that, and, say... the last guy holding the virus who dicked around before shooting chase just in time for Jack to shoot him... or Saunders looking away from the monitor JUST as the agents sneak by (whether or not he was actually in the building is irrelevant, it's the fact that stuff like that happens).

It's easier to accept the big events on the hour and the cliffhangers as opposed to two guys places in this IMPOSSIBLE to get out of situation only to have a stupid thing take place like ... the person guarding them trips on his shoe or something thus making the two trapped men able to escape. It's a cheap way out, IMO.

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In other words: The on-the-hour and season ending events introduce conflict as opposed to the writers creating this VERY messy situation only to have them unable to creatively come up with a solution.. so we end up with "We'll just have him look away at this moment as they walk by." See what I'm sayin?

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kutulu

I was entertained by the finale but I wasn't amazed or surprised. Jack chopping off Chase's hand was pretty cheesy. Saunders getting shot was totally predictable.

I've said that to my wife so many times but hey its a TV show, should the cliffhangers happen in the middle of the ep and end on a boring note?

Rethinking things, the cheesiest part of the season was when they were chasing the last courier in the car and they got blocked in the road by construction equipment.

One more thing. They were in a chem lab. Couldn't Jack have filled a sink full of water, dropped the device in there and covered it with something?

Cuball

no need for a season 4 if they keep going like this...

season1 and season2 were great, but this one.... pfff a shame

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simonrex22

I dont think he had time to fill a sink full of water.

Anyway, i think it was a great season and am looking forward to a season four if they make one. I was just disappointed that there was no cliffhanger at the end.

wondash

What a great ending, Jack crying in his SUV

I'm done. 24 is off my Tivo Season Pass. I can only hope that the next season of MI-5 makes it to the states!

Cynthetiq

I finally watched 24 this past weekend and was very let down.

I'm with you on the MI-5....

I will be getting Spooks Season 2 DVD set in just a week or so. Thank goodness for multiregion DVD players.

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