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The Ninth Gate
I've been trying to figure out the ending to the Ninth Gate. Basically in the movie, Corso (played by Johnny Depp) just walks into the castle bearing a resemblence to one of the illustrations in the book. What happened to him?
Sure I have an imagination, However I know that this movie is based on a spanish novel: El Club Dumas by Arturo Perez-Reverte. I guess I could get the book myself and read it... That may not help though because the book might be equally ambiguous. (I also heard that the book itself might be a forgery... ) Idunno Is anyone else a fan of this movie? http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volum...ninth-gate.jpg |
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The way that I interpreted it, is that Depp's character opens/walks through the Ninth Gate, and the woman who was accompanying him is in fact the devil. I saw it last a few years ago so I may be off on the details but that seemed to be the gist of it. |
Oh yes, "The Girl". For some reason I am really hot for her. There is some sexual nuance in this film that conventional porn just can't touch. (Is it the mystery? I don't know.)
http://www.ecrannoir.fr/films/99/nin...9gseigner2.jpg Perhaps it's the way she dresses. http://www.ecrannoir.fr/films/99/nin.../9gseigner.jpg Then again, maybe not. But anyways (before I start panting) I think the Girl is a minion of Satan rather than Satan himself (herself?... wtf). I actually found the script and it leaves me equally clueless to the ending. I think the clue is in the Ninth engraving. Remember that Balkan sent the Barroness a postcard which Corso (Johnny Depp) found in her copy of the Nine Gates. On the postcard is the castle which they go to at the end. Balkan's Ninth engraving was a forgery which if you actually look at it, foreshadow's his end. http://www.ecrannoir.fr/films/99/nin...es/9gate9a.jpg I also think that image of the woman on this forgery is closer to appearance of the Telfer woman than that of the Girl. http://www.ecrannoir.fr/films/99/nin...es/9gate9c.jpg The real Ninth engraving has the image of The Girl on it. It also has an image of the Castle on the postcard that Mr. Corso disapears into at the end. Note that in the actual script, he doesn't disappear into the castle, but rather just walks down some alleyway. |
I thought this was a great movie, at least in that it required some thought. It's been a while, so my memory may be fuzzy...
The Girl is enticing him throughout the whole movie. Notice at the beginning he is not a good guy (i.e. tricking the guy out of the rare books), but he is pretty normal. As the movie progresses he gets worse and worse, and it all seems necessary. By the end, he kills someone without a thought. He is being groomed for the entrance to the ninth gate. Look at the pictures again and notice how they relate to events in the movie. Johnny Depp experiences at least some of them. The obvious one in my memory is the one in the lady's study when he gets hit on the head as he is looking at one of the pictures of someone sneaking up to bash someone on the head. I remember that whoever went through it got some kind of demonic power on earth and would be the Devil's champion or something like that. I agree with seretogis above. The girl is working on the dark side. The last picture was a forgery by the two old bookmakers he meets early in the movie. He goes to them, and they say that it would have to be a fantastic forgery to look as good as it does. Right after they say that, they pass a knowing look between them. I initially interpreted that as the picture being authentic, but by the end I had changed my mind. Maybe the book makers were God, or agents of God, that tried to make the entrance impossible by changing the last picture. But the girl leads him through the event of the real last picture by screwing him while the castle burns. I really liked the portrayal of the devil as a seducer and subtle trickster rather than all powerful evil. She appears to be helping him out, but she is really working her own adgenda. |
Okay one note that in the script... Corso was getting some heat from the cops. That is one reason that The Girl stopped him from whacking Balkan on the head with the candlestick while he strangled the Telfer woman.
Here's the deleted scene from the script where The Girl stops Corso: Quote:
Yes, evil is very seductive. And OMG. I just rewatched the scene where Corso confronts the two book dealers. One of the brother corrects the other when he says "If this is a forgery, or a copy with pages restored, it’s the work of a master".... the brother corrects him with "masters"... Note that this isn't in the screenplay... |
I think that scene with Balkan still fits with what I was saying, though. If I remember correctly, Balkan is the one who tries to open the Ninth Gate using the incorrect last picture, and burns for it. I don't remember exactly how it happens, but I think that is when the castle catches on fire, which is what The Girl wants to happen so that she can enact the ninth Real pictue with Corso. So she needs it to happen as it does, which is why she stops him from killing Balkan.
Anyway, very cool movie. I'm glad someone else likes it. Most of my friends either hated it or did not want to give it a second thought. |
IM also very glad that other ppl liked this movie shoot i thought i was the only one. Anyways i think that the last part of the movie Corso is actually walking into the Ninth Gate, what else would he be walking into?
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i never watched it because i heard it sucked. after reading these posts it sounds very interesting but very confusing.
it's the same reason i waited so long to watch Donnie Darko, even after it came out on DVD. which by the way i didn't understand or truly appreciate until watched the DVD Commentary. can anyone tell me if there is a commentary that explains this on the DVD version? |
i love the ninth gate. The first time i watched it, it was a bit confusing but the second time round i think i got most of it. I do believe that at the end Corso is walking into the Ninth Gate
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I LOVE this movie, the very first time I watched it I actually watched it 3 times back to back to try to catch everything...I honestly think I have seen very few movie scenes as erotic as the scene at the end where The Girl is on top riding Corso
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It's a good enough movie but some say my taste is lacking in movies. My guess is that you have to be very open minded to movies. Apparently this movie was popular in Europe. http://www.kinema.com.br/cartazes/45.jpg |
The beauty of the work from The Master of Misinformation. You won't know until you are on the path toward the gate. See it more than once and decide yourself...it's a different ending for each indiviual. Free will and all that. The story hasn't changed much in all these years. Alegory can be the best aphrodisiac.
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