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Mr.Deflok · 05-01-2003, 09:38 PM

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Originally posted by cyntheiq
you didn't think that Sully from Monsters, Inc. was incredibly well animated?

Hell yes! But if you've got the DVD you'll see just how tough it was for Pixar to perfect Sulley's fur in terms of physics. You may also notice that all Star Wars CG characters have no hair (or little as is in Yoda's case). I don't think ILM would really bother making a CG Chewie seeing as how there's nothing wrong with the costume, perhaps the facial animatronics could do with a little work but the suit will stay. Plus in the Senate scenes the Wookies representatives are fully costumed.

Xixox · 05-02-2003, 01:07 AM

I'm with the previous posters who want to see Grand Moff Tarkin in his prime.

I say we all lobby to get Ralph Fiennes into the role.

As for the good & bad of the prequels... I enjoy them, but they don't hold the same fascination for me that the original trilogy did. That could be simply because I grew up with the first three. Eps I and II are kind of interlopers, in a way... messing with what was a perfect series.

Ep. I was a great introduction for Obi Wan. Ewan McGregor has absolutely nailed his performance in portraying what Sir Alec Guinness would have been like as a young Obi. The kid they picked to play Anakin was a bit wooden, but child actors are difficult to direct. Natalie Portman could have done much better as her role - her line reading was always flat & monotone; I didn't feel any of the spirit that the mother of Leia should have held. Jar Jar needs to be killed violently - he was an atrocious addition to the storyline; he's just a product of rampant goofy-sidekick syndrome which seems to crop up as a formula in way too many movies. Fart jokes & prat falls should not be part of this epic story. Still, the movie was a good start to the storyline and had groundbreaking effects - I just wish George would focus more on writing & directing than digital crap.

Ep II - Should have had more in it. Less time wasted flying through the city to capture a bounty hunter that will be killed off before saying anything important; less time wasted on seeking out the origin of the other bounty hunter and chasing him fruitlessly through space; less time wasted on watching Anakin whine like a little bitch or prat-falling off of a poorly designed cow. With those cut out, more time could have been spent on The Sith and their plans and motives; more time could have been spent on Anakin's turn towards the dark side; more time could have been spent on things that will make the producers cut more good stuff out of Ep III. The kid playing Anakin was even worse than Ep I's... he totally lacks talent as an actor. Portmann was as monotone as ever (except in discussing politics on their picnic, she actually spoke as a senator should there). C3PO pissed me off something fierce with his totally worthless puns ("This is such a drag" and "I'm quite beside myself"... good grief). Again, Lucas should be considering his story a little more seriously... and for crying out loud, they have to get a director that can actually direct their actors to act properly.

Not to say that Eps IV - VI were dramatic masterpieces of acting & directing... they were filled with cheesy lines & bad acting nearly the whole way through as well. But there was a certain class to the acting being done that made it a bit more forgiveable. I'd just expect that newer movies could do better. Woo, gotten off on a bit of a rant here, maybe we'll need another thread to discuss the prequels :P

As for Chewy being in III... I don't see where he fits in the story at this point. Either he's a slave & will be waiting for Han to rescue him in Ep 3.5, or he's just some generic wookiee that doesn't play into the story at all. I'm interested to see how George manages to work it out though.

Mr.Deflok · 05-02-2003, 04:55 AM

Just for the record, Hayden Christenson is a good actor, he just didn't give 100% as Anakin, he is NOT devoid of talent.

And the Han and Chewie meet up is EU (expanded Universe) and Lucas doesn't give ashit about it EU and will do what he wants (unfortunately).

Lucas doesn't realise that EU is giving him big bucks, the least he could do is respect their ideas.

And as for Lucas not being able to direct, you're absolutely right. GIVE IT TO SPIELBERG DAMN IT!

Boris37 · 05-02-2003, 08:23 AM

I dont know what role chewy is goin to play in episode 3 but im sure it will fit in.....as to how no one recognizes him in ANH will be tricky i think. I love wookies though and i hope chewy goes crazy and rips someone in half in this movie, wookies are supposed to be able to rip people apart when pissed off, i just want to see it!

as to all the critics about the new movies sucking. i think they are great, it is hard to make a movie better than episodes 4-6, but i think all the story lines in the new movies and how they fit in are freaking awesome. and the fight scences blow me away. I think Darth Maul was the greatest! i know he wasnt a developed character but he was so awesome to watch.

anyways i am looking forward to episode 3, lucas promised this will be the darkest movie you have seen in a while. and i love evil, if i learned the force i would have went down the dark side a loooooong time ago!!!

holtmate · 05-04-2003, 08:57 PM

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Originally posted by Zotz
The story of Han's rescue of Chewbacca is told in the Han Solo trilogy books (The Paradise Snare, The Hutt Gambit, and Rebel Dawn) and it takes place well after the Clone Wars. The timeline wouldn't work right for it to be shared in Ep3.

Oh well, guess you're right...they can still put him in, since Chewie is pretty old, right?

And for the EU stuff, it all has to be approved by Lucas, so I think he does care about it...anything written after Jedi is considered to be canon, since Lucas will not be making those movies...

holtmate · 05-04-2003, 08:59 PM

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Originally posted by Boris37
I dont know what role chewy is goin to play in episode 3 but im sure it will fit in.....as to how no one recognizes him in ANH will be tricky i think. I love wookies though and i hope chewy goes crazy and rips someone in half in this movie, wookies are supposed to be able to rip people apart when pissed off, i just want to see it!

Ooooh!! Now that would be great...maybe Obi Wan could cut off someones arm, and a wookie could show him up by ripping one off...

Hycdubg · 05-05-2003, 03:05 PM

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Originally posted by LordEden
I've lost faith in George Lusas... He's killing the prequils and I think adding characters like Chewie is not going to say him from making a bomb out of all three movies. At least it looks pretty.

I whole-heartedly agree. All the last two movies have been is eyecandy. I fell asleep in the second one until the last 45 minutes of the movie. What a waste.

05-02-2003, 01:07 AM	#42 (permalink)
Xixox Crazy Location: MN-WI	I'm with the previous posters who want to see Grand Moff Tarkin in his prime. I say we all lobby to get Ralph Fiennes into the role. As for the good & bad of the prequels... I enjoy them, but they don't hold the same fascination for me that the original trilogy did. That could be simply because I grew up with the first three. Eps I and II are kind of interlopers, in a way... messing with what was a perfect series. Ep. I was a great introduction for Obi Wan. Ewan McGregor has absolutely nailed his performance in portraying what Sir Alec Guinness would have been like as a young Obi. The kid they picked to play Anakin was a bit wooden, but child actors are difficult to direct. Natalie Portman could have done much better as her role - her line reading was always flat & monotone; I didn't feel any of the spirit that the mother of Leia should have held. Jar Jar needs to be killed violently - he was an atrocious addition to the storyline; he's just a product of rampant goofy-sidekick syndrome which seems to crop up as a formula in way too many movies. Fart jokes & prat falls should not be part of this epic story. Still, the movie was a good start to the storyline and had groundbreaking effects - I just wish George would focus more on writing & directing than digital crap. Ep II - Should have had more in it. Less time wasted flying through the city to capture a bounty hunter that will be killed off before saying anything important; less time wasted on seeking out the origin of the other bounty hunter and chasing him fruitlessly through space; less time wasted on watching Anakin whine like a little bitch or prat-falling off of a poorly designed cow. With those cut out, more time could have been spent on The Sith and their plans and motives; more time could have been spent on Anakin's turn towards the dark side; more time could have been spent on things that will make the producers cut more good stuff out of Ep III. The kid playing Anakin was even worse than Ep I's... he totally lacks talent as an actor. Portmann was as monotone as ever (except in discussing politics on their picnic, she actually spoke as a senator should there). C3PO pissed me off something fierce with his totally worthless puns ("This is such a drag" and "I'm quite beside myself"... good grief). Again, Lucas should be considering his story a little more seriously... and for crying out loud, they have to get a director that can actually direct their actors to act properly. Not to say that Eps IV - VI were dramatic masterpieces of acting & directing... they were filled with cheesy lines & bad acting nearly the whole way through as well. But there was a certain class to the acting being done that made it a bit more forgiveable. I'd just expect that newer movies could do better. Woo, gotten off on a bit of a rant here, maybe we'll need another thread to discuss the prequels :P As for Chewy being in III... I don't see where he fits in the story at this point. Either he's a slave & will be waiting for Han to rescue him in Ep 3.5, or he's just some generic wookiee that doesn't play into the story at all. I'm interested to see how George manages to work it out though. __________________ Incompetence When you earnestly believe you can compensate for a lack of skill by doubling your efforts, there's no end to what you can't do.

05-02-2003, 08:23 AM	#44 (permalink)
Boris37 Crazy	I dont know what role chewy is goin to play in episode 3 but im sure it will fit in.....as to how no one recognizes him in ANH will be tricky i think. I love wookies though and i hope chewy goes crazy and rips someone in half in this movie, wookies are supposed to be able to rip people apart when pissed off, i just want to see it! as to all the critics about the new movies sucking. i think they are great, it is hard to make a movie better than episodes 4-6, but i think all the story lines in the new movies and how they fit in are freaking awesome. and the fight scences blow me away. I think Darth Maul was the greatest! i know he wasnt a developed character but he was so awesome to watch. anyways i am looking forward to episode 3, lucas promised this will be the darkest movie you have seen in a while. and i love evil, if i learned the force i would have went down the dark side a loooooong time ago!!! __________________ Fear attracts the fearful....

05-02-2003, 04:55 AM	#43 (permalink)
Mr.Deflok Blood + Fire Location: New Zealand	Just for the record, Hayden Christenson is a good actor, he just didn't give 100% as Anakin, he is NOT devoid of talent. And the Han and Chewie meet up is EU (expanded Universe) and Lucas doesn't give ashit about it EU and will do what he wants (unfortunately). Lucas doesn't realise that EU is giving him big bucks, the least he could do is respect their ideas. And as for Lucas not being able to direct, you're absolutely right. GIVE IT TO SPIELBERG DAMN IT!