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Spinach_Indeed · 07-23-2003, 11:48 AM

I recently rewatched these two movies. I had forgotten how much I totally am entralled with these two films. The Music, The sexuality, the imagry. Velvet Goldmine has some of the Music I've seen in a film, as does Hedwig. Has anyone else seen these films or have any thoughts?

Hedwig and The Angry Inch

This film tells the story of an 'internationally ignored' rock singer, Hedwig and her search for freedom and love. Born a boy named Hansel, whose life dream is to find his other half, Hedwig reluctantly submits to a sex change operation in order to marry an American G.I. and get over the Berlin Wall to freedom. The operation is botched, leaving her with the aforementioned angry inch. From East Berlin, she sets off for Kansas City with hopes of becoming a famous rocker. Finding herself high, dry and divorced in a Kansas trailer, Hedwig pushes to form a rock band--The Angry Inch. While supporting herself with babysitting gigs, she falls for a 16-year-old Jesus freak she renames Tommy Gnosis. Tommy steals her songs and becomes the rock star Hedwig always dreamed she'd be. Refusing to be defeated, she fiercely performs in crumbling theme restaurants seeking recognition and retribution.

Velvet Goldmine

A glam rock version of "Citizen Kane," with the fictionalized spotlight turned on David Bowie instead of William Randolph Hearst,"Goldmine" follows the structure Orson Welles' used for "Citizen Kane," documenting the rise and fall of a glam rock superstar -- Brian Slade (a very thinly disguised Bowie-esque pop idol) -- through flashback vignettes told by his contemporaries as they are interviewed by a reporter on the 10th anniversary of his disappearance after a publicity stunt that ruined his career.
Among others, the reporter (Christian Bale) interviews Curt Wild (Ewan McGregor), Slade's hard-living collaborator, rival and sometime lover -- the Iggy Pop character -- and his bitter, lounge-singer ex-wife (Toni Collette), a parallel of both Angela Bowie and the Charles Foster Kane's talentless, drunk ex.
The film documents Slade's early days as an aimless post-hippie singer who hadn't found his voice then follows him through the invention of his glam persona (think Ziggy Stardust) that launches him into super-stardom, capturing precisely the period's pandemonium of androgyny, bisexuality, drugs and rock'n'roll.
Meanwhile, Meyers and McGregor manifest the glam rock attitudes (fey, petulant pouts, sexual stage antics) and concealed insecurities of their largely dazed characters so fully that it lends them an almost tragic depth. Toni Collette stands out as something of an escapee from Slade's destructive world, who a decade later is clearly worse for the wear. And Christian Bale gets to flesh out his reporter quite a bit, struggling with his own memories of his volatile post-pubescence during the era he's revisiting.

Spektr · 07-23-2003, 02:46 PM

I loved Hedwig and the Angry Inch. It really is an amazing movie, but it is 1,000 times better on stage. The Broadway performance was absolutely incredible

Mr.Deflok · 07-23-2003, 05:19 PM

Velvet Goldmine is practically a biopic on David Bowie's Ziggy Stardust days, and that's why it's sooo good.

giblfiz · 07-23-2003, 05:47 PM

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Originally posted by Spektr
I loved Hedwig and the Angry Inch. It really is an amazing movie, but it is 1,000 times better on stage. The Broadway performance was absolutely incredible

I never knew that it was done on stage, but now that I think of of it it seams that it fits that mold.

I loved the movie in general and the sexualisation of gummy bears in particular.

Concertina · 07-23-2003, 07:02 PM

I loved Velvet Goldmine. And yes, I love David Bowie tons....so even though Mr. David was a tad upset by the making of this movie, and the somewhat negative light it portrays him in, I still love it....

I especially liked the intercutting of random music-video like clips into the story line.

Along the lines of Bowie movies.....The Man who Fell to Earth is AWESOME!

m

frankx · 07-24-2003, 03:48 PM

Hedwig was a great movie. I enjoyed it immensely. Haven't seen Velvet Goldmine yet.

eris · 08-08-2003, 04:04 AM

Velevt goldmine has one of the best soundtracks ever.. a must own on DVD...

jimk · 08-08-2003, 04:07 AM

i saw hedwig on stage in chicago & it was awesome. stopped playing before i could get all my friends to go, then they saw the movie & said, "man, i wish i would've gone to the play."

haven't seen velvet goldmine, but this thread reminded me that i want to!

mystmarimatt · 08-08-2003, 05:13 PM

yeah, i saw the movie, and i really wish i could've seen it staged, just to see how it was accomplished. anyway, it was awesome, the music was an awesome blend of myusical theatre and rock and the references to Rent were cool, because i absolutely love Rent.

07-23-2003, 11:48 AM	#1 (permalink)
Spinach_Indeed Banned? Location: Artic Tundra	"Hedwig and the Angry Inch" and Velvet Goldmine I recently rewatched these two movies. I had forgotten how much I totally am entralled with these two films. The Music, The sexuality, the imagry. Velvet Goldmine has some of the Music I've seen in a film, as does Hedwig. Has anyone else seen these films or have any thoughts? Hedwig and The Angry Inch This film tells the story of an 'internationally ignored' rock singer, Hedwig and her search for freedom and love. Born a boy named Hansel, whose life dream is to find his other half, Hedwig reluctantly submits to a sex change operation in order to marry an American G.I. and get over the Berlin Wall to freedom. The operation is botched, leaving her with the aforementioned angry inch. From East Berlin, she sets off for Kansas City with hopes of becoming a famous rocker. Finding herself high, dry and divorced in a Kansas trailer, Hedwig pushes to form a rock band--The Angry Inch. While supporting herself with babysitting gigs, she falls for a 16-year-old Jesus freak she renames Tommy Gnosis. Tommy steals her songs and becomes the rock star Hedwig always dreamed she'd be. Refusing to be defeated, she fiercely performs in crumbling theme restaurants seeking recognition and retribution. Velvet Goldmine A glam rock version of "Citizen Kane," with the fictionalized spotlight turned on David Bowie instead of William Randolph Hearst,"Goldmine" follows the structure Orson Welles' used for "Citizen Kane," documenting the rise and fall of a glam rock superstar -- Brian Slade (a very thinly disguised Bowie-esque pop idol) -- through flashback vignettes told by his contemporaries as they are interviewed by a reporter on the 10th anniversary of his disappearance after a publicity stunt that ruined his career. Among others, the reporter (Christian Bale) interviews Curt Wild (Ewan McGregor), Slade's hard-living collaborator, rival and sometime lover -- the Iggy Pop character -- and his bitter, lounge-singer ex-wife (Toni Collette), a parallel of both Angela Bowie and the Charles Foster Kane's talentless, drunk ex. The film documents Slade's early days as an aimless post-hippie singer who hadn't found his voice then follows him through the invention of his glam persona (think Ziggy Stardust) that launches him into super-stardom, capturing precisely the period's pandemonium of androgyny, bisexuality, drugs and rock'n'roll. Meanwhile, Meyers and McGregor manifest the glam rock attitudes (fey, petulant pouts, sexual stage antics) and concealed insecurities of their largely dazed characters so fully that it lends them an almost tragic depth. Toni Collette stands out as something of an escapee from Slade's destructive world, who a decade later is clearly worse for the wear. And Christian Bale gets to flesh out his reporter quite a bit, struggling with his own memories of his volatile post-pubescence during the era he's revisiting. __________________ Spinach in Need is Spinach Indeed

07-23-2003, 07:02 PM	#5 (permalink)
Concertina Upright Location: Between the 1st and 40th drink...	I loved Velvet Goldmine. And yes, I love David Bowie tons....so even though Mr. David was a tad upset by the making of this movie, and the somewhat negative light it portrays him in, I still love it.... I especially liked the intercutting of random music-video like clips into the story line. Along the lines of Bowie movies.....The Man who Fell to Earth is AWESOME! m __________________ ~I got a fever above my waist~

07-24-2003, 03:48 PM	#6 (permalink)
frankx Psycho Location: The Tip of the Boot	Hedwig was a great movie. I enjoyed it immensely. Haven't seen Velvet Goldmine yet. __________________ Louisiana: We're Not ALL Drunken Cajun Wackos, But That's Our Tourism Campaign

08-08-2003, 04:04 AM	#7 (permalink)
eris Crazy	Velevt goldmine has one of the best soundtracks ever.. a must own on DVD... __________________ allhaileris

08-08-2003, 04:07 AM	#8 (permalink)
jimk Addict Location: Chicago	i saw hedwig on stage in chicago & it was awesome. stopped playing before i could get all my friends to go, then they saw the movie & said, "man, i wish i would've gone to the play." haven't seen velvet goldmine, but this thread reminded me that i want to! __________________ raw power is a guaranteed o.d. raw power is a laughin' at you & me -iggy

07-23-2003, 02:46 PM	#2 (permalink)
Spektr Copacetic Location: Nati	I loved Hedwig and the Angry Inch. It really is an amazing movie, but it is 1,000 times better on stage. The Broadway performance was absolutely incredible

07-23-2003, 05:19 PM	#3 (permalink)
Mr.Deflok Blood + Fire Location: New Zealand	Velvet Goldmine is practically a biopic on David Bowie's Ziggy Stardust days, and that's why it's sooo good.

08-08-2003, 05:13 PM	#9 (permalink)
mystmarimatt Omnipotent Ruler Of The Tiny Universe In My Mind Location: Oreegawn	yeah, i saw the movie, and i really wish i could've seen it staged, just to see how it was accomplished. anyway, it was awesome, the music was an awesome blend of myusical theatre and rock and the references to Rent were cool, because i absolutely love Rent. __________________ Words of Wisdom: If you could really get to know someone and know that they weren't lying to you, then you would know the world was real. Because you could agree on things, you could compare notes. That must be why people get married or make Art. So they'll be able to really know something and not go insane.