Star Wars: Episode 3 (SPOILERS!)
 

Anyone have any information on the upcoming movie? I've not heard any news whatsoever. I could just be under a rock though...

all i know is they started filiming it this month and its suposed to come out sometime in 2005

after ROTJ george lucas was turned to a spawn of satan, and after years of waiting, he unleashed the most horrible thing ever upon us, the prequels(sp)...*sigh* So, if you watch episode three, you will explode and be damned to hell...hmmm did i take my prequel hating to far?

lol not at all allthough episode one wasnt that bad but episode 2 blew aside from yodas fight scene lol

I totally disagree, i feel that TPM was subpar and introduced something usless (midiclorians) into the SW universe. Ep2 was good except for it's horrible title.

I have hopes for Ep3 and think it could be the best of the 3 and by all rights it should be.

My question is wheather they will make films out of any of the EU stuff, that's where they could get fantastic, especially if GL has nothing to do with them besides approving scripts. He's already approved the EU books so i say just make them into movies.

CHEWBACCA is back

MON MOTHMA is back

ANAKIN has longer hair (I have the leaked webcam shot of it too)

ACKBAR is rumoured to appear in it


And there are a few other things I could say but they'd count as spoiler material.

well way i see it is thus.. the new ones just make watching the old ones that much better.

Some link from Fark I think said that Samuel L. Jackson was leaking secrets already. Don't remember where to, but I'm pretty sure he's giving stuff away already.

They have a lot to cover between ep. 2 and 4...

I've read that most of the stars will have 70's style haircuts and mullets so that the hairstyles will be similar to those in Ep. 4...

-Mikey

Episode 1 was a good movie. I enjoyed it very much, aside from a few bad actors and the infamous Jar Jar. Episode 2 however...well, it sucked. Badly. I'm a big Star Wars fan, but I honestly don't care at all about Episode 3. That makes me sad. And Midiclorians were in the Star Wars universe well before Episode 1. :)

-Lasereth

it's a trap!!!
 

Were the midiclorians in the comics or something? Because Ep1 was the first i heard of them.

Nah Lucas made them up for Ep1. Plus Lucas doesn't really give a shit about EU.

So then i guess i need to know what Lasereth means by his final statement.

http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hp&cf=prev&id=1808406060

That page usually has the latest info

www.starwars.com has some too.

Sit down and re-watch the first three Star Wars movies back to back. Then watch any of the new ones and try to come up with something possitive to say about them (the new ones).

Impossible. They are like "The Fast and the Furious" of the Science Fiction genre. Dumbed down for the new generation and without any depth or originality. Imo.

try www.comingsoon.net

I totally agree. And they feel so random. Midiclorians still come to mind unless they were introduced in the comics, but as was stated, Lucas doesn't care about the EU. The acting is cardboard and the dialogue is tedious. Give me Han Solo and the original C-3P0 anyday!

sorry i think that you are waxing nostalgic for your youth...

so many people talk like the first 3 movies were shakespeare... they weren't...they were visually appealing with similar storylines of shared mythology. The new movies accomplish exactly the same thing for the new generation of kids that are out there.

AMEN. Episode 1 is my least favourite of the so far 5 but Episode II was fantastic! The prequels are about politics and Vader's rise where the OT is about a kid becoming a hero (and Vader being redeemed).

I don't know what to expect. Episode II was better than Episode I, I hope this follows the same pattern.

I also thought EP2 was better than 1. Do you think this will be the last one from Lucas, or do you think he will do a EP7?

No Episode 7, at least not in his lifetime. However he is planning to remake the Original Trilogy via CG in 2017 to reflect his true vision of Star Wars, make the characters look like how he imagined them, not like the actors who played them and such.

That is the stupidest and most insulting thing i've ever heard! How would you like to be Cari Fisher or Harrison Ford and hear that?!

I think this guy is cracked. Ep2 was better than Ep1, that is true. But I really think GL needs to stop after Ep3 and give the reigns to someone else to direct the Zahn trilogy or the NJO books.

And as for waxing nostalgic, the OT has one very important thing that this trilogy doesn't have so far, heart. We cared for Han and Leia and Luke and Chewie. I don't care at all about Anakin or Padme or really anyone but Yoda and Obi. The prequels aren't fun, they're forced fun as shown by all the groaning one liners that 3P0 crammed down our throats.

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who thinks Lucas is nuts...I swear that man has a vault full of money that he swims in regularly, laughing his ass off, ala Scrooge McDuck...
But I think we do remember the original trilogy in a slightly skewed light. It was not that great, the acting and dialogue was just about as bad then. It was just something new.

But it had heart. I watch it today and i still see that heart. The prequals seem like they're just going through the motions and reading their lines in front of a blue screen.

As a long-time SW fan, (gee R2Geek, anyone?)...

I'll agree that EP4 and 5 had heart. You cared about the characters. Big time. Great dialogue, quotable one-liners, etc. ROTJ started a downhill slide into pandering to a childhood audience... Ewoks beating garrisons of Stormtroopers? Puh-leeze! and the overly foamy muppet-like Jabba palace/band) The fight between Luke and Vader at the end and Vader's redemption saved the film.

Flash forward 15 years or so... Episode 1. EVERYONE had major expectations because of the nostalgia, and that the trilogy was virtually deified by so many. Including me. But man, it sucked. I've tried so many times to watch it, to pull the good from it. To go in again with a more open mind. Jar Jar was the single most insipid bit of pandering to the Home Alone crowd Ive ever seen. Jake Lloyd as Anakin was so wooden you could see the marionette strings. The dialogue was poor, the battle droids were as scary as the robot from Rip Tide (how's that for an obscure 80's TV reference?) and Anakin just "happening" to send the fighter into orbit, join a dogfight (and not be killed), and OOPS! I FIRED A SHOT INTO THE REACTOR OF THE CONTROL SHIP! DID I DO THAT??? I mean, I half expected Urkel to high five him.

Episode II redeemed the prequels for me in many ways. More serious tone, more story, more fighting, more darkness. The dialogue still needed help, and there was little chemistry between the characters, at least nothing like there was in episodes 4 & 5.

But still, I'm holding on for Episode 3. Anakin's fall to the darkside, fight with ObiWan, Chewie, Mon Mothma's introduction, the beginnings of the Death Star. Man. I just hope it's as good as Ep 2, but I'm secretly hoping that it will blow me away.

http://www.starwars.com/community/fe...mg/book_sm.jpg
The Smithsonian had a travelling exhibit that started at the Smithsonian Air & Space museum. It was title, Star Wars: the Magic of Myth. It not only went over all the space/flying stuff, but also gave the opportunity to go overs the storytelling of the series as told by George Lucas himself. Lucas has a fixation with storytelling via the power of myth, archetypical stories of good vs. evil, father's fall from grace vindicated by son's triumph... The prequels examine that part of the myth.

As far as the ewoks, wookies were Lucas' first choice, but because they weren't primative enough he could no longer use them. The end result is that he wanted primatives to win over the technologically advanced Empire, again about more the myth/story than the marketing machine. While the marketing machine does exist, it wasn't his rational.

A shame that travelling exhibit closed. I did enjoy it both in DC and when it travelled to Brooklyn, NY.

Do you have a link to the source for this? I've never heard of this and no one i know has either. I'd love to see where you got this from so i have a reference.

Have you ever heard of 'Supershadow'? Cheesy name I know but he's a film-maker who caught the attention of Lucas a while back with a documentary about UFO's of all things. Lucas called him up and congratulated him and from then on they became good close friends. Supershadow or Mickey Suttle as his real name is gets insider information from Lucas and freely leaks it onto the net (yes, with permission).

He does not divulge everything he knows at the request of Lucas but regardless Rick McCallum hates him and blames him for AOTC not being the highest grossing film of 2002 (since every Star Wars movie so far has been the highest grossing film of it's year of release).

His website is http://www.supershadow.com

It may be hard to believe at first but it's all legit, I gathered facts from his website about Episode II and wrote them all down, this was months before EP2 was released and after watching the film only one of the 20 or so facts listed was incorrect. Later on I found out that it was only incorrect because that scene was ommited from the final cut of the film: the Jedi's hostile takeover of the Droid command ship.

Very cool, i'll have to check it out. Where can these deleted scenes be seen? I know there were a few deleted scenes on the DVD but i don't remember that one.

the only place to "officially" see the deleted scene is to pay for the crap Hyperspace pass on the starwars website.

I don't really have high hopes for the third movie after seeing Episodes I and II. Lucas seems to think that pretty graphics and animated actors can make up for the piss poor acting and dialogue. After I heard that sand line in Episode II, I nearly walked out of the theater.

Ep IV,V,VI kicks so much ass compared to the first two. IMO, Even without Cg, it depicts the star wars universe a lot better than the first two. I think all the Cg ruins the film, it makes human characters look extremely out of place, almost like Who Framed Roger Rabit?

What he said ;), I hope someone rips the vids from HyperSpace and spreads them over the net. It's shocking, I have to pay to be a Star Wars fan. I mean, it's not like Lucas doesn't have enough money!

I can't stand that GL is making fans pay for all the extra behind the scenes stuff. Well the way I look at it they will have all that extra crap pumped out the last two weeks before the movie opens so I won't have to pay for it anyway. I'd rather not know what's going on before the movie comes out anyway.

People are going to post enough spoilers anyway that the movie will be a let down.

The only cool thing is my son (who is only 2) loves watching all of the movies. He doesn't have a bias towards the OT or the NT which is pretty cool.

IMO, Episode I was ok at best, but Episode II felt so...dead. Like someone else said, it feels like they are just going through the motions. In my mind, part of the reason for that is how everything is blue screened, it takes the actors out of mood of actually being there. Also from my understanding (and someone please correct me if I'm wrong) I've heard that George doesn't not give his actors the whole script to work with, just the snippets for the scenes they are doing then. Thus, not even the actors have an idea how everything is connected and can't react accordingly.

But this all just from simple old me who isn't anywhere near an actor so I'm nowhere near an expert on the subject.

r2geek, I agree with almost everything that you said. Episode 1 was pure shit, Episode 2 actually had some redeeming qualities to it. The only good parts of Episode 1 both died at the end (Darth Maul and Qui-Gon (sp?)). Return of the Jedi I thought was equally as good as all both A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back. I have no problems with. Episode 2 I don't believe lives up to the original trilogy, but it does a much better job than Episode 1

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As for Episode 3, I'm looking forward to it. Anakin turning into Darth Vader and the fight on the lava planet between him and ObiWan should be good. I heard a spoiler that the lava planet is actually Naboo after the Death Star tests it's weapons on it, and that sends Anakin into a rage. It's probably not a true rumor, but it's a rumor nonetheless and I figured I'd share it.

now that would be cool!

Feeling a bit like Halx right now. While reading through everyone's posts, I was thinking of all this great stuff to say that people haven't mentioned yet... but then I realized that no one would even read my post, let alone would it change anyone's mind about anything. I don't even know why I'm typing this. Well... here goes... :: pushing the submit button::

I'm ignoring the above post because it looks boring. ;)

The Vader costume is also going to look different from the Vader we see in the OT.

Another thing that I'm surpised that I did not mention let alone of you guys is that there is a Jedi Traitor amongst the ranks of the... Jedi. He/She is the dude/dudette that erased the Kamino files in the Jedi Archives and it is rumoured that he/she'll be killed by Mace or Yoda.

Like in ROTJ when Palpatine tries to lure Luke to the darkside by telling him to strike down his father there is supposed to be a scene that parallels this in Ep3. Apparently Palpatibe will tell Anakin to release his anger, let out his hate and strike down Tyranus where he stands.

p.s. Lucas has said that REVENGE OF THE SITH is not a title he'll use and that pisses me off, what title would be better?

aaah the great film god hath let us all down- remember people- this man also made howard the duck-- but maybe, just maybe he wont suck the pipe on this one

I'm not plugging a site, but for anyone who has hours to kill, www.theforce.net has literally too much content about all the prequels, including spoilers about Ep.3, just for any casual fans that have not heard of it.
After finding out too much about Ep.2, I have decided not to try to find out as much as I can, this last time around.
My personal thought on Ep.2 are that Lucas listened to the fans, and tried to create a movie that was darker in tone, with more fighting, but in all his efforts to do that, forgot to add any soul or emotion to the movie. It was an improvement on Ep1, but little things like...dialogue! still really sucked.
The prequals are just too sanitized, and seem to be just like many summer blockbusters, they are fun to watch, but don't stick with you. Gone are the shocking moments, like Vader telling Luke he was his father, like yoda telling luke that leia was luke's sister; the moments that should stir emotions in the prequals, like Anikan leaving his mother, and Aniken seeing his mother and killing all the sandpeople had so much potential, but...sucked. Unless and until Lucas can recapture his film making ability, I don't have high expectations for Ep.3.

George Lucas has forgotten the first rule of writing a sequel.

GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT.

I personally thought that Anakin's speech about killing the Tusken Raider's was quite moving, especially in the extended version on the DVD. I just wish Lucas let Hayden act more like that, y'know, realistically. But all in all, Episode II was a brilliant movie.

Bring on Chewy!!!!!!!!

i dont think episode 1 and 2 were THAT bad... Episode 1 had a good story at least, while episode 2 had... um..... bare Natalie Portman midriff?

Plus its a build up right? the end of the series should be better than the beginning....

George Lucas has ruined the prequels for me.

I was expecting so much but got so little. These movies ruin themselves and the first 3. Shame on you Lucas.

Once Episode III is ready for the watching I bet a lot of prequel naysayers will change their tune, why? Because they'll finally see the complete story and how well the entire saga fits in together.

I would agree, but there are always going to be the dorks who say that Lucas left something important. Someone is always going to find something wrong with the movie.

Just like there are folks who say that Peter Jackson left out too much in the LOTR.

You mean other than the fact that it's really not that good? Everyone standing up for it seems to be doing so out of pure devotion. Just because it "wasn't that bad".

I think the first three were classics, some of the best SF of all time. The new installments are dead on their feet. There are no real suprises, no real depth of character. Hell, there are hardly any real actors or sets.

I'm speaking as a fan here. I WANT them to be good; they just don't have any spirit.

For every so called "fan" who dislikes what Lucas has done with the prequels I can guarantee you there are 100 fans who love it. The trouble is that the uncontented ones are more outspoken than the appreciative and cause a ruckus to which too many people listen to.

One thing I don't understand Star Wars fans saying is "there are no surprises"... hmmm, now let me think... 25 years have passed since Star Wars came out, during that time Lucas has told people about what happens in the prequels... fans learn of this information... and they remember it... they go see the movie and think "Hey! I did already know dat!" Big surprise.

Star Wars is here to stay and no matter how many people say it sucks they will always be outnumbered by those who love it.

section from Amadeus script:

The Emperor turns to Mozart.

JOSEPH Well, Herr Mozart! A good effort. Decidedly that. An excellent effort! You've shown us something quite new today.

Mozart bows frantically: he is over-excited.

MOZART It is new, it is, isn't it, Sire?

JOSEPH Yes, indeed.

MOZART And German?

JOSEPH Oh, yes. Absolutely. German. Unquestionably!

MOZART So then you like it? You really like it, Your Majesty?

JOSEPH Of course I do. It's very good. Of course now and then - just now and then - it gets a touch elaborate.

MOZART What do you mean, Sire?

JOSEPH Well, I mean occasionally it seems to have, how shall one say? (he stops in difficulty; to Orsini-Rosenberg) How shall one say, Director?

ORSINI-ROSENBERG Too many notes, Your Majesty?

JOSEPH Exactly. Very well put. Too many notes.

MOZART I don't understand. There are just as many notes, Majesty, as are required. Neither more nor less.

JOSEPH My dear fellow, there are in fact only so many notes the ear can hear in the course of an evening. I think I'm right in saying that, aren't I, Court Composer?

SALIERI Yes! yes! er, on the whole, yes, Majesty.

MOZART (to Salieri) But this is absurd!

JOSEPH My dear, young man, don't take it too hard. Your work is inge- nious. It's quality work. And there are simply too many notes, that's all. Cut a few and it will be perfect.

MOZART Which few did you have in mind, Majesty?

Episode 3
 

Unlike many, I am truly looking forward to Episode 3. I think this will be the best of the entire series (originals or prequels). Ever since Empire Strikes Back I have been wishing for a Star Wars movie that is much darker (a.k.a. more realistic, IMO) in tone. It seems the other 5 movies all tend to sugar coat things or gloss over truly 'serious' issues in favor of having a nice story with a happy ending (or at least that eventually leads to a happy ending). Episode 3 is the only chance GL has left to tell a much more gritty and real story that, while still leaving room for hope, doesn't have a neat a tidy happy ending.

If Ep. 3 disappoints me, so be it, but for the moment I eagerly await it more than I've looked forward to any of the others in the series.

Figure it this way. Of Episodes 4, 5 and 6- I say 6 is the best.

Hopefully there is a pattern here, and of 1, 2 and 3- 3 Will be the best. Hopefully George pulls out all the stops for the series finale.

My personal opinion as someone who has seen all the movies and that's about it, is that Episode 3 will bring everything together, and you'll be able to see Ep. 1 & 2 leading right into 3 and continuing onto 4-6, almost seemlessly story-wise.

I have been a lifelong Star Wars fan. I've always said Ep IV was my favorite movie of all time. I never like ROTJ much....it clearly showd where Lucas was heading (reaching it's nader with Ep I). Ep II had it's merits.

The thing I've realized, and I can't believe it's come to this, is that the Lord of the Rings trilogy may very well end up being a better trilogy than the original SW episodes (IV-VI). Even a year ago I would have laughed at myself for thinking that, but if "Return of the King" is as good (or better) than Two Towers, I think I may have to rethink what my favorite movies are.

It better be good.... it just better be good...

the LOTR trilogy has all the same workings of myth that SW world does...as story LOTR has much more behind it as far as years and generations go, being able to realize it into film without losing story or audience :) is incredible

http://theforce.net/

...has good regular updates

Did anyone else hear that Chewbacca was going to be the midwife who delivers both Luke and Lieh (sp?)


LAME!!!!!!!!!!

I heard that too, GSRIDER. I forgot where, but I did read it somewhere (not that that makes it true).
In all honesty EP I and EP II weren't bad at all. I've watched them numerous times. Everytime I see anyone of them on TV, I watch it.
Sure they weren't as good as EPs IV, V, and VI, but Santa Clause was sure a helluva a lot cooler when I was younger too (you see what I'm trying to say?).
Nothing will ever compete with the Orginal Trilogy and you just gotta accept that and move on. Take the new movies for what they are and not what you thought they should have been.
VIVA LA STAR WARS.

p.s. I can't wait for my Star Wars Chess Set to come today.

This is NOT true, Chewbacca apparently delivers the babies, sure, but not in that sense. He delivers Leia to Bail Organa on Alderaan and Luke to Obi-Wan whom takes him to Tatooine to live with Owen Lars.

Rick McCallum has even said that the midwife theory was false.

Eww. Wetnurse Chewy. Smells like wet dog.

Summary of Rick McCallum webchat from yesterday.
McCallum’s comments appear in red.
Sidious/Palpatine has a much more substantial role in Episode III for obvious reasons!
It has the same emotional depth as ESB, and yet because there are so many new planets, it is visually one of the most ambitious films we've done.
On the surface, the film ends on a sad note (and for me, a personally gloomy one, because I'll be out of a job), but of course, we know where the story goes from there. Anakin is the Chosen One, after all.
"Can you tell us if Tarkin will appear in Episode III?"

Officially, I can't answer that. Yet I can't say no either.
Yes, we've shot three major lightsaber battles. I've just left the stage where we have an underwater tank where we're shooting Obi-Wan fighting with droids.
"hey rick! can you tell us just one word that darth vader says in episode III?"

How about three words? "I don't fear..."
"Does George explain all of Anakin's injuries in this film?"

Yes, except for one.
"Does Ep. III answer all questions, or are there any left for the books to answer?"

It answers the questions you have, but it may raise a few new ones too.
The opening battle's in space only, not land.
"Have you filmed the Obi-wan/Anakin fight yet? I hear its really going to be something..."

Only pieces of it, not the main action yet.
"Will we see Kamino in Episode III?"

No.
"When will Peter Mayhew (Chewbacca) begin filming?"

March of next year.
"Can you tell us anything about the OT being released on DVD?"

It's gonna happen.
"Will there be an underwater battle in Episode III?"

Not battle, but a fight.
"Will we ever see clip(s) of Dooku using 2 lightsabers from Episode II? What are the chances of him using 2 in episode III?"

Only one in Episode III... but there is someone out there who has two... and he's bad.
"Will we see many Jedi die in Episode III, or just a notable few?"

Yes.
"How might this affect the rating of the movie?"

Too early to tell.
"Will we see a scene involving the naming of Darth Vader and why he is named that?"

Yes.
"Will there be a volcanic setting in Episode III?"

They've just put a muzzle on me.
"Will we see Mace Windu in any form of space action?"

That's an interesting way of putting it. Yes.
"Can you give us any hints on to who the EU character might be?"

Can't go there yet.
We need Joel (Uncle Owen) for a day's work, which will be done next year.
"Will we see Palpatine/Darth Sidious in any sort of 'action' or at least 'awesome display of dark side power' scene in Episode III?"

Yes, most definitely
Beru will appear.
"Will there be any dreadlocked Wookiees in Episode III?"

Only because of your screen name will I answer this. Yes.
"How do you think most fans will feel about Anakin's eventual downfall? Saddened, shocked, anrgy or betrayed? How did you feel upon reading the script?"

Yes. All of the above.
"In regards to Chewbacca's role in Episode III, will it be obvious that it's Chewie? And will his role add more depth to his character in the classic trilogy?"

Even though we haven't shot it yet, I think I can say yes
"Will David Prowse be back to play the Dark Lord?"

Absolutely not.
"The latest rumor is that the title of Episode III will be BIRTH OF AN EMPIRE. Are we close?"

Not even close.
"Does Jar Jar survive this film?"

Yes. His next job will be Bush's Foreign Minister.
"I really worded my last question badly. What I'm getting at is, ‘Is Palpatine Darth Sidious?’"

This movie answers that question conclusively.
"Will Kit Fisto use a double headed lightsaber in Episode III like he does in the clone wars sketches?"

No, he doesn't.
"Will there be any issues with the Sith statement, ‘Only two there are, master and apprentice’ in this film?"

The statement remains true.
"Is Padme a senator throughout the whole movie?"

Yes.
"Is Rose Byrne returning as Dorme in ep. 3? Thanks!"

Sadly no. She's working opposite Brad Pitt in TROY right now.
"Has Anakin's Turn to the dark side been shot yet? If so is it cool!"

It's a two-hour turn to the dark side.
"Does Boss Nass appear in Ep.III?"

No.
"How old are Luke & Leia at the end of Episode 3???"

Less than a month old.
"Do we see Padme pregnant in the film?"

Yes.
"Are any female jedi going to be seen fighting in Episode 3?"

Yes
"Will we see Yoda fighting again in EP3 or will it kinda happen off screen?"

Yes. Full on-screen.

Possible Opening for EPISODE III, personally I think it sounds fucking cool.

SPOILER ALERT
"I have seen the official presentaion by LucasFilm for Episode III. Below is a summary of the first part. I will send more when I have a chance.

Title Crawl: The clone wars continue on and the war is being fought above Coursant. The separatist forces have captured Chancellor Palpatine. Two Jedis, Obi-Wan and Anakin have found out where Palpatine is being held and lead a Squad of clones to rescue the Chancellor...

A huge space battle is taking place above the planet of Couruscant.

Obi-Wan and Anakin are flying new Jedi Starfighters that have a strange similarity to TIE fighters in the original trilogy. It's a very exciting scene with lots of action. Obi-Wan and Anakin try to get a lock on Shaak Ti's tracking device (she was captured along with Palpatine) and find that she and Palpatine are in the most heavily guarded ship. Obi-Wan and Anakin call for backup from the Clone troopers just as 20 or so droid fighters leave the ship and attack.

The droid fighters look like smaller Imperial shuttles. The battle continues and one of the droid shuttles deploys a bunch of sphere shaped droids, about the size of basketballs. They attach to Obi-Wan's Starfighter and arms, legs and lasers pop out. They begin to attack the various components of his ship, much like the Sentinels did in the Matrix. One of the droids cuts the head off of the R4 droid in the starfighter.

Anakin flies in to save his master and best friend. He tells Obi-Wan to keep steady and he starts to shoot the droids off the ship. He hits Obi-Wan's starfighter a few times and decides to try a different method. He flies in close to Obi-Wan and brushes the droids off the ship with his wing. One of the droids hops onto Anakin's ship and tries to cut off R2-D2s head. R2 extends an arm and hits the droid with a blast of electricity knocking it off the ship.

One last droid is still on Obi-Wan's ship and does some major damage. The ejector seat doesn't function and he loses control. His plan is to crash land his ship in to the hanger of the large separatist ship where Palpatine is being held. However, a shield is up. Anakin must fly in and knock out the shield to allow Obi-Wan to land.

Just as the two Jedi's enter the ship, the steel hanger doors shut. Obi-Wan pulls out his lightsaber, cuts open the canopy of his starfighter and jumps out just as the ship crashes and bursts into flames. He does a flip in the air as he is surrounded by battle droids. Anakin, still in his ship, flies through the hanger and crashes into the droids once again saving Obi-Wan.

Anakin and Obi-Wan then run off following Shaak Ti's signal. Hayden Christensen has obviously bulked up since Episode II. He stands a few inches taller than Ewan McGregor, and has much broader shoulders. Christensen now has shoulder length hair and is wearing more black leather underneath his Jedi robe. McGregor's hair is cut close to his head and he has a full beard, reminiscent of Alec Guinness. In fact, his voice sounds strangely like Guinness' as well.

The two are encountered by battle droids and they fight their way through. When they find Shaak Ti, she is in a room filled with battle droids, General Grevious and his body guards. Grevious is mostly machine with only the brain and eyes of a human. His metal body looks similar to that of the TX endoskeleton in the new Terminator movie but he wears a cloak that covers most of him. On his belt he carries the lightsabers of the Jedi he has killed. His body guards carry electrified pikes that are impervious to lightsabers.

Grevious has Shaak Ti kneel in front of him and then executes her with her own lightsaber. Obi-Wan and Anakin rush in and fight with the battle droids as well as Grevious' guards. More and more battle droids show up and the Jedi's realize they are outmatched. To escape, they cut into the floor and fall into the engine room of the star ship.

All the while the battle continues to rage on out side and the starship has taken heavy damage. The engine room is starting to fill with liquid fuel. Covered with fuel and no longer able to use their lightsabers, they try to make their way out of the engine room. Battle droids have followed them down and are now chasing them as the room is quickly filling with fuel. Anakin and Obi-Wan struggle to find a way out but it seems that all the openings are far too small for a human to fit through.

Eventually they do find one and start climbing up the ladder inside the shaft. The battle droids are right on their heels and the fuel in the engine room is getting close to electrodes on the walls. The two Jedi climb out of the shaft and into a hallway as Anakin seals the hatch behind them with his lightsaber. The fuel reaches the electrodes in the engine room and explodes. The explosion rips the ship in half.

Quickly, Anakin and Obi-Wan make it to the bridge where they find Chancellor Palpatine and General Grevious. Anakin and Obi-Wan attack Grevious but he quickly knocks Obi-Wan out and fights alone with Anakin. Through the window of the bridge we can see that the ship is crashing into Coruscant.

Grevious sees this too and makes a daring escape. He smashes the glass and climbs out the window. Because he is mostly metal he can walk on walls, ceilings and the outside of starships. He runs along the outside of the ship, makes his way to an escape pod and gets away.

Back in the bridge Obi-Wan has woken up and he finds Anakin at the helm of the ship, trying to prevent it from crashing. As the ship enters Coruscant's atmosphere, the ship starts to burn up and debris starts to fly off. Just before they crash into the city below, Anakin is able to get the nose of the ship up and make a somewhat safe crash landing.
SPOILER END

wow, that sounds badass.

One question. In the OT, we are told that Luke and Leia were split up and hidden from Vader. That is all well and good. But why on Earth would they "hide" Luke in the former home of Vader's mom? Why would they name him Skywalker?

The area in which the Lars live on Tatooine has traces of darkside aura from when Anakin slaughtered the Tusken Raiders, the darkside combined with Obi-Wan's efforts to cloud the force hide Luke from Vader. This goes for Yoda too, the darkside cave, as with the rest of Dagaboh are surrounded by the presence of the darkside which shrouds Yoda's presence.

Is this a theory of yours or something official? Either way, it makes sense to me.

I made it up :D the real reason behind it is that Lucas is making all this stuff up as he goes along.

The new Jedi Starfighters look like this

http://www.supershadow.com/pictures/...ar_fighter.jpg

I'd post the actual photo of Anakin in his Episode III form but it'd be illegal for me to do so.
http://www.supershadow.com/pictures/1/ep3anakin2.jpg

Also, Vader may look like this:
http://www.supershadow.com/pictures/3/dv2003.jpg

Though it is hard to say because parts of Vader's armour are supposed to be seen throughout the film on various characters.

Plot summary for Episode III:

wtf...

http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/insidergg.jpg
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that guy "General Grievous" looks stupid to me, I'm sorry. I really don't know much about the "star wars universe;" I just watch the movies so maybe I'm just not educated on this, but the fact that this guy is a machine takes away from the movie IMO. It just looks wack.


and here's a picture of what anakin will look like after his fight with obi wan... ***warning, might be considered a spoiler...***

http://theforce.net//episode3/newspi...n_uk_paper.jpg

Grr...

After Episodes 1 and 2 I've been saying that I probably won't even bother seeing Episode 3, unless everything I hear about it is great. Then of course I start reading spoilers and look at pictures like the one of Anakin that illesturban just posted and I start to get excited. Grr. Lucas is going to do it to me again, I can feel it. The closer we get to the release the more and more the movie is going to look kick ass, but then it's going to suck ass. The best thing about Episodes 1 and 2 were the trailers (especially the one for TPM). The trailers rocked! But, for me, the movies themselves were so disappointing.

Unless the third film is two hours of George Lucas hitting himself in the face with a large hammer and apologising for the first two and promising not to fuck up Indiana Jones I'll be sorely disappointed...

even if that isn't used in EP3 that's one hell of a bad ass photo :D

You've got to be freakin kidding me.

GENERAL GRIEVOUS?

I mean seriously, the thing reeks of anime plagiarism.
Nothing against anime, but the atmosphere and mood of the original star wars trilogy is nothing like it.

granted not much is known so far, but the name and illustration remind me of a great action figure playtoy... not a villian with charisma and depth.

lucas' star wars universe is his own. he has every right to create, destroy, and profit from whatever he dreams up. still, i can't help but think he would be disappointed with episodes 1 and 2 if he could somehow see them a day after releasing Empire Strikes Back. perhaps by choice (going after a more lucrative demographic), he is alienating at least one fan who used to love his work.

http://home.comcast.net/~tcmack23/pi...wi75-cover.jpg

Yeah but this picture is a hell of a lot better to judge GRIEVOUS by!

^ yeah he looks wack, sorry; lol.

i dunno if this has already been mentioned, but i just heard on tv today that Keisha Castle-Hughes, the Oscar nominated 13 year old actress who starred in last year's Whale Rider has just been cast as the Queen of Naboo.

If you have no idea who this girl is, go to this link.

I dunno, he looks pretty damn cool to me. Just as long as the entire movie isn't CG like ep2, I'll be fine. There was just an overabundance and overreliance on graphics and shit. Plus the super-bad acting on the part of Hayden Christensen, bleh.

God I hope that's just concept art.

^nope lol that's the guy. haha. and how could you not expect episode 3 to be mostly cg? lmao that's funny. It'll be just like the first two prequels... meaning MOSTLY cg. I thought Hayden did a pretty good job in Star Wars... I mean it's STAR WARS; you can't expect Oscar-worthy performances in it.

Is it just me or does he look like he's made out of plastic?

Please note that Greivous' final colour scheme has still not yet been finalised.

The new Star Wars movies were good, but not great. Give me the originals any day.

Boba better get his revenge on that damn Mace Windu !!

I breaks my heart, but my 3 year old son prefers to watch Attack of the Clones over any of the original Trilogy. He does enjoy watching Return of the Jedi (mostly because of Jabba and the inevitable Ewoks) when I play them on LD. Hopefully once the DVD's are released he may find them to be better than the new Trilogy.

On a side note it was hilarious the other day when he and I were looking through one of the DK picture books and he made the realization that Anakin was inside Darth Vader. It really messed with his mind :D I wonder what he'll think of Episode 3 when he finally gets to watch it.

Love 4, 5, and 6. Amazing movies. Ep 1 was so-so. Ep 2 had some really great things in it but the melodramatic love story between Anakin and the Queen was so lame. Darth Vader was NOT supposed to be such a whiney little bitch!

Darth isn't. Anakin is.

i guess so. That's why Darth is much cooler than Anakin. Anakin was too much of a pussy :)

Jedi??? To quote Kevin Smith's classic Clerks "All Jedi had was a bunch of muppets"

You know I was really looking forward to AotC, depite the rather crappy title, even though Ep 1 was pure crap. To tell you the truth I rather liked Clones... well let me rephrase that... I rather liked Clones when Obi Wan was onscreen. The Padme/Ani crap? That's what the skip button on the DVD player is for :)
Do I have hope that Ep 3 will be great? Not much. Do I think it will be good? Possibly. Will it be as good as Empire? Not a hope in hell.

BTW the SPOILER that Sam Jackson gave away is... and skip it if you dont want to read it but if you've seen the original trilogy its no surprise...
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Mace Windu (Samuel L Jackson) dies. Wow what a shock.

May not be a surprise but him getting owned by Anakin and Palpatine at the same time is gonna be cool to watch.

Ep1 was a piece of shit. It boiled down to a stupid fucking pod race,and an anticlimatic sword fight (Maul got fucking CHODED so bad in that), and Jar Jar fucking Binks, the source of all that is evil and wrong in the world.

Ep2, Yup, that sucked two. Little Skywaker was a whiny fucking BITCH before he put the helmet on. And while he was only in it for 30 seconds tops, it STILL had Jar Jar fucking Binks, the source of all that is evil and wrong in the world. The story was weak, the big villian at the end had the dumest fucking name in the universe. Lord Dookie. What the fuck is that?

There are two reasons, and two reasons only I'm waiting to see the thrid.

1: With luck, we will see Jar Jar fucking Binks, the source of all that is evil and wrong in the world eat the wrong end of a laser blaster.

2: The birth of Vader. The voice of James Earl Jones will once again bring it's joy to the starwars universe. For some things, I will sit through any movie, no matter how bad

BTW, it was Count Dooku, not Dookie. But point taken.

Is it just me or has any body else made the connection that the one character that everbody hates (I'm refering of course to Seer666's tirade) is the one character to ulitmately give Palapatine the go-ahead to take over the galaxy?

Everything in the OT boils down to Jar Jar being a character that wants to do right, and thinks that his actions are what Padme would do to end the feuding. Without Jar Jar there would be no "Grand Army of the Republic" and Anakin wouldn't end up being Vader.

I think GL heard all of the ranting and backlash over Jar Jar and decided to make him be the one character who, through good intentions, unravels the entire galaxy, and vindicates the character of Jar Jar.

Being the unwitting puppet of the evil macinations of someone so much smarter then him does NOT vindicate Jar Jar. Nothing will ever make up for that.....

She did a phenomenal job in "Whale Rider". The girl can act.