Star Wars: Episode 3 (SPOILERS!)
 

Anyone have any information on the upcoming movie? I've not heard any news whatsoever. I could just be under a rock though...

all i know is they started filiming it this month and its suposed to come out sometime in 2005

after ROTJ george lucas was turned to a spawn of satan, and after years of waiting, he unleashed the most horrible thing ever upon us, the prequels(sp)...*sigh* So, if you watch episode three, you will explode and be damned to hell...hmmm did i take my prequel hating to far?

lol not at all allthough episode one wasnt that bad but episode 2 blew aside from yodas fight scene lol

I totally disagree, i feel that TPM was subpar and introduced something usless (midiclorians) into the SW universe. Ep2 was good except for it's horrible title.

I have hopes for Ep3 and think it could be the best of the 3 and by all rights it should be.

My question is wheather they will make films out of any of the EU stuff, that's where they could get fantastic, especially if GL has nothing to do with them besides approving scripts. He's already approved the EU books so i say just make them into movies.

CHEWBACCA is back

MON MOTHMA is back

ANAKIN has longer hair (I have the leaked webcam shot of it too)

ACKBAR is rumoured to appear in it


And there are a few other things I could say but they'd count as spoiler material.

well way i see it is thus.. the new ones just make watching the old ones that much better.

Some link from Fark I think said that Samuel L. Jackson was leaking secrets already. Don't remember where to, but I'm pretty sure he's giving stuff away already.

They have a lot to cover between ep. 2 and 4...

I've read that most of the stars will have 70's style haircuts and mullets so that the hairstyles will be similar to those in Ep. 4...

-Mikey

Episode 1 was a good movie. I enjoyed it very much, aside from a few bad actors and the infamous Jar Jar. Episode 2 however...well, it sucked. Badly. I'm a big Star Wars fan, but I honestly don't care at all about Episode 3. That makes me sad. And Midiclorians were in the Star Wars universe well before Episode 1. :)

-Lasereth

it's a trap!!!
 

Were the midiclorians in the comics or something? Because Ep1 was the first i heard of them.

Nah Lucas made them up for Ep1. Plus Lucas doesn't really give a shit about EU.

So then i guess i need to know what Lasereth means by his final statement.

http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hp&cf=prev&id=1808406060

That page usually has the latest info

www.starwars.com has some too.

Sit down and re-watch the first three Star Wars movies back to back. Then watch any of the new ones and try to come up with something possitive to say about them (the new ones).

Impossible. They are like "The Fast and the Furious" of the Science Fiction genre. Dumbed down for the new generation and without any depth or originality. Imo.

try www.comingsoon.net

I totally agree. And they feel so random. Midiclorians still come to mind unless they were introduced in the comics, but as was stated, Lucas doesn't care about the EU. The acting is cardboard and the dialogue is tedious. Give me Han Solo and the original C-3P0 anyday!

sorry i think that you are waxing nostalgic for your youth...

so many people talk like the first 3 movies were shakespeare... they weren't...they were visually appealing with similar storylines of shared mythology. The new movies accomplish exactly the same thing for the new generation of kids that are out there.

AMEN. Episode 1 is my least favourite of the so far 5 but Episode II was fantastic! The prequels are about politics and Vader's rise where the OT is about a kid becoming a hero (and Vader being redeemed).

I don't know what to expect. Episode II was better than Episode I, I hope this follows the same pattern.

I also thought EP2 was better than 1. Do you think this will be the last one from Lucas, or do you think he will do a EP7?

No Episode 7, at least not in his lifetime. However he is planning to remake the Original Trilogy via CG in 2017 to reflect his true vision of Star Wars, make the characters look like how he imagined them, not like the actors who played them and such.

That is the stupidest and most insulting thing i've ever heard! How would you like to be Cari Fisher or Harrison Ford and hear that?!

I think this guy is cracked. Ep2 was better than Ep1, that is true. But I really think GL needs to stop after Ep3 and give the reigns to someone else to direct the Zahn trilogy or the NJO books.

And as for waxing nostalgic, the OT has one very important thing that this trilogy doesn't have so far, heart. We cared for Han and Leia and Luke and Chewie. I don't care at all about Anakin or Padme or really anyone but Yoda and Obi. The prequels aren't fun, they're forced fun as shown by all the groaning one liners that 3P0 crammed down our throats.

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who thinks Lucas is nuts...I swear that man has a vault full of money that he swims in regularly, laughing his ass off, ala Scrooge McDuck...
But I think we do remember the original trilogy in a slightly skewed light. It was not that great, the acting and dialogue was just about as bad then. It was just something new.

But it had heart. I watch it today and i still see that heart. The prequals seem like they're just going through the motions and reading their lines in front of a blue screen.

As a long-time SW fan, (gee R2Geek, anyone?)...

I'll agree that EP4 and 5 had heart. You cared about the characters. Big time. Great dialogue, quotable one-liners, etc. ROTJ started a downhill slide into pandering to a childhood audience... Ewoks beating garrisons of Stormtroopers? Puh-leeze! and the overly foamy muppet-like Jabba palace/band) The fight between Luke and Vader at the end and Vader's redemption saved the film.

Flash forward 15 years or so... Episode 1. EVERYONE had major expectations because of the nostalgia, and that the trilogy was virtually deified by so many. Including me. But man, it sucked. I've tried so many times to watch it, to pull the good from it. To go in again with a more open mind. Jar Jar was the single most insipid bit of pandering to the Home Alone crowd Ive ever seen. Jake Lloyd as Anakin was so wooden you could see the marionette strings. The dialogue was poor, the battle droids were as scary as the robot from Rip Tide (how's that for an obscure 80's TV reference?) and Anakin just "happening" to send the fighter into orbit, join a dogfight (and not be killed), and OOPS! I FIRED A SHOT INTO THE REACTOR OF THE CONTROL SHIP! DID I DO THAT??? I mean, I half expected Urkel to high five him.

Episode II redeemed the prequels for me in many ways. More serious tone, more story, more fighting, more darkness. The dialogue still needed help, and there was little chemistry between the characters, at least nothing like there was in episodes 4 & 5.

But still, I'm holding on for Episode 3. Anakin's fall to the darkside, fight with ObiWan, Chewie, Mon Mothma's introduction, the beginnings of the Death Star. Man. I just hope it's as good as Ep 2, but I'm secretly hoping that it will blow me away.

http://www.starwars.com/community/fe...mg/book_sm.jpg
The Smithsonian had a travelling exhibit that started at the Smithsonian Air & Space museum. It was title, Star Wars: the Magic of Myth. It not only went over all the space/flying stuff, but also gave the opportunity to go overs the storytelling of the series as told by George Lucas himself. Lucas has a fixation with storytelling via the power of myth, archetypical stories of good vs. evil, father's fall from grace vindicated by son's triumph... The prequels examine that part of the myth.

As far as the ewoks, wookies were Lucas' first choice, but because they weren't primative enough he could no longer use them. The end result is that he wanted primatives to win over the technologically advanced Empire, again about more the myth/story than the marketing machine. While the marketing machine does exist, it wasn't his rational.

A shame that travelling exhibit closed. I did enjoy it both in DC and when it travelled to Brooklyn, NY.

Do you have a link to the source for this? I've never heard of this and no one i know has either. I'd love to see where you got this from so i have a reference.

Have you ever heard of 'Supershadow'? Cheesy name I know but he's a film-maker who caught the attention of Lucas a while back with a documentary about UFO's of all things. Lucas called him up and congratulated him and from then on they became good close friends. Supershadow or Mickey Suttle as his real name is gets insider information from Lucas and freely leaks it onto the net (yes, with permission).

He does not divulge everything he knows at the request of Lucas but regardless Rick McCallum hates him and blames him for AOTC not being the highest grossing film of 2002 (since every Star Wars movie so far has been the highest grossing film of it's year of release).

His website is http://www.supershadow.com

It may be hard to believe at first but it's all legit, I gathered facts from his website about Episode II and wrote them all down, this was months before EP2 was released and after watching the film only one of the 20 or so facts listed was incorrect. Later on I found out that it was only incorrect because that scene was ommited from the final cut of the film: the Jedi's hostile takeover of the Droid command ship.

Very cool, i'll have to check it out. Where can these deleted scenes be seen? I know there were a few deleted scenes on the DVD but i don't remember that one.

the only place to "officially" see the deleted scene is to pay for the crap Hyperspace pass on the starwars website.

I don't really have high hopes for the third movie after seeing Episodes I and II. Lucas seems to think that pretty graphics and animated actors can make up for the piss poor acting and dialogue. After I heard that sand line in Episode II, I nearly walked out of the theater.

Ep IV,V,VI kicks so much ass compared to the first two. IMO, Even without Cg, it depicts the star wars universe a lot better than the first two. I think all the Cg ruins the film, it makes human characters look extremely out of place, almost like Who Framed Roger Rabit?

What he said ;), I hope someone rips the vids from HyperSpace and spreads them over the net. It's shocking, I have to pay to be a Star Wars fan. I mean, it's not like Lucas doesn't have enough money!

I can't stand that GL is making fans pay for all the extra behind the scenes stuff. Well the way I look at it they will have all that extra crap pumped out the last two weeks before the movie opens so I won't have to pay for it anyway. I'd rather not know what's going on before the movie comes out anyway.

People are going to post enough spoilers anyway that the movie will be a let down.

The only cool thing is my son (who is only 2) loves watching all of the movies. He doesn't have a bias towards the OT or the NT which is pretty cool.

IMO, Episode I was ok at best, but Episode II felt so...dead. Like someone else said, it feels like they are just going through the motions. In my mind, part of the reason for that is how everything is blue screened, it takes the actors out of mood of actually being there. Also from my understanding (and someone please correct me if I'm wrong) I've heard that George doesn't not give his actors the whole script to work with, just the snippets for the scenes they are doing then. Thus, not even the actors have an idea how everything is connected and can't react accordingly.

But this all just from simple old me who isn't anywhere near an actor so I'm nowhere near an expert on the subject.

r2geek, I agree with almost everything that you said. Episode 1 was pure shit, Episode 2 actually had some redeeming qualities to it. The only good parts of Episode 1 both died at the end (Darth Maul and Qui-Gon (sp?)). Return of the Jedi I thought was equally as good as all both A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back. I have no problems with. Episode 2 I don't believe lives up to the original trilogy, but it does a much better job than Episode 1

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As for Episode 3, I'm looking forward to it. Anakin turning into Darth Vader and the fight on the lava planet between him and ObiWan should be good. I heard a spoiler that the lava planet is actually Naboo after the Death Star tests it's weapons on it, and that sends Anakin into a rage. It's probably not a true rumor, but it's a rumor nonetheless and I figured I'd share it.

now that would be cool!