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Fremen · 10-02-2003, 07:29 PM

Here's an excerpt from Tarantinos' interview in the November issue of Playboy:

Quote:

PLAYBOY: This film was supposed to be a small movie before your big World War II film. Now Kill Bill is so big it has been split into two movies that cost six times what Pulp Fiction did. How did that happen?

TARANTINO: When Uma's husband, Ethan Hawke, read it the first time, he said, "Quentin, if this is the epic you're doing before you do your epic, I'm afraid to see your epic."
It's become a full-on epic exploitation movie. Hopefully, it's the movie that every exploitation-movie lover has always wished for.
It doesn't have the pretentiousness of a big movie epic. This is made for black theaters, for exploitation cinema that covers the entire globe.

PLAYBOY: Isn't it awkward, splitting a single movie into two parts?

TARANTINO: There were no obstacles. I've always designed movies to be malleable.
For instance, I've always designed different versions for Asia and for America and Europe. I don't make movies for America; I make movies for the world.
In the last month of shooting, when Harvey Weinstein came to the set and brought up the idea of splitting the movie into two parts, within an hour I had figured out how it would work.
We shot two opening sequences, all kinds of stuff.
This is my tribute to grind-house cinema, and something was bothering me about releasing a three-hour grind-house movie.
It seemed pretentious, like an art film meditation on a grind-house movie.
Two 90-minute movies coming out fairly rapidly, one after another--that's not pretentious, that's ambitious.

© PEI, Inc. (Playboy)

Like Atomsk said, it seems it wasn't QT's idea at all.

I won't go see them in the theater, but I'm still going to enjoy them when they come to DVD.
My question is: Should they be released as DVDs together as a boxed set, or as stand-alones?

arcane · 10-04-2003, 03:28 AM

im definately glad to see a new Quentin Tarantino movie

i looked forward to his past releases and own most of them on dvd. i hope im not disappointed

Elegant Holmes · 10-04-2003, 06:10 PM

There has never been a more elegant actress than Uma Thurman in "Dangerous Liasons". Ugghnamumph.

Mind_Storm · 10-05-2003, 06:38 PM

http://www.empireonline.co.uk/news/news.asp?story=5063

Kill Bill DVD Details
Tarantino lays out his multi-release plans
02/10/2003

Looking forward to Kill Bill? Well, you should be looking forward to the DVD as well, according to Quentin Tarantino, who Empire Online saw today when he cruised in to London in advance of tonight's premiere, you may need a separate shelf just to hold his vision for Kill Bill's home release.

"I'm thinking about it big time already," he said. "I can't imagine a better movie when it comes to great DVD stuff. I'm gonna really play fair as far as the DVD's concerned, you know? We'll come up with separate DVDs for Volume 1 and Volume 2 and I'll do special stuff for each of those. Then we'll come up with a real big version with them both together but I won't repeat the special stuff I put on Volume 1 and Volume 2. I'll do something whole other from that. I might even do some other little movie thing just to go on that special double feature version."

As to what exactly this 'other little movie thing' might be, Tarantino's not telling but the director makes no apologies for his plans to release as many versions as possible. "I'm all about being a collector man. You know? Come out with all the different junk you can."

Lestat · 10-06-2003, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by arcane
im definately glad to see a new Quentin Tarantino movie

i looked forward to his past releases and own most of them on dvd. i hope im not disappointed

Same here. He's great.

Cynthetiq · 10-07-2003, 08:16 PM

OMFG!!!! It was incredible...just got back from the red carpet premiere... never been to one before.

I'm not going to spoil the story...but it was very much a fun movie to watch. Lots of genres slammed together.

quadro2000 · 10-08-2003, 05:54 AM

As I went last night with Cynthetiq...I'll put in my quick two cents without spoiling anything.

The movie is definitely his homage to kung-fu flicks and as such, there are parts that seemed to be a little cheesy to me. However, the movie never really takes itself that seriously, so it's all in good fun.

The movie was definitely in the traditional Tarantino style - nonlinear (but never unclear), a little choppy, great music, more blood than I ever imagined I'd see, and quite entertaining. I'm glad they cut it into two pieces - it was just the right length and ended at a good point.

The fight scenes are fantastic. The final fight sequences (occurring at The House Of Blue Leaves) are really impressive. Uma Thurman does a great job.

John Falcon · 10-08-2003, 09:42 PM

I can't wait until Friday.

IckUber · 10-09-2003, 04:19 PM

Febuary, the second part is out in feb.

Mondak · 10-10-2003, 04:11 PM

I was temepted to start a new thread now that the movie is out, BUT....

Mondak says:

"Go see Kill Bill!"

Don't read anything about the movie. Go in fresh with no proconceived notions and then return and read stuff. I had a great time skipping the afternoon of work and seeing a matinee.

Oh yeah - can anyone tell me what the red dots were that kept appearing. Don't worry - that is not a spoiler. Just kinda weird.

Mr. Spacemonkey · 10-10-2003, 06:02 PM

I just saw it earlier today. It was cool.

DownwardSpiral · 10-10-2003, 06:07 PM

I saw it earlier today as well, not too bad.

Xiangsu · 10-10-2003, 08:11 PM

Very good, now if only it were a complete film. When that happens it will be great.

battlemouth · 10-10-2003, 10:35 PM

i just saw kill bill and i must say that it was the most fabulous movie i have ever seen!! it was so beautiful and the gore! my lord what a lovely movie!! i want to see it again and again!

quest1mark · 10-10-2003, 11:05 PM

i just came back from the movie as well. i enjoyed how he mixed different techniques into the story line (aka lucy liu's childhood).

the soundtrack was great too! i couldnt believe RZA from Wu-Tang did it!!

Kyp · 10-11-2003, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cynthetiq

I'm not going to spoil the story...

Waitwaitwait wait.... There was a story?!?! Did we see the same movie? I don't remember there being a story, just a chick with a sword killing people. I seriously do not understand people. You rant and rave about how story and plot and all that is what makes a movie, and then Kill Bill comes out with nothing but blood and gore, and you rant and rave about how good it is... ugh... I'm going to go beat my head up against the wall.

Porkchop · 10-11-2003, 02:41 AM

The trailers make you want to see it. If you into that type of movie or tarintino. Maybe not as accesible as his other movies we will see.
Going to see this next week when released over here.

QuasiMojo · 10-11-2003, 05:21 AM

Very good movie. However Tarantino does something with the Anime` scenes that made me physically uncomfortable...Gosh, I felt like i was that dude in "clockwork orange"

It IS disturbing...something about going from hyperviolence right into comic fantasy...you switch gears ALOT when you view this movie. Maybe thats why it seems like such a ride.

docbungle · 10-11-2003, 08:55 AM

I thought it was awkward and did not flow smoothly at all. Editing was bizzare and off-putting. The fight scenes were the best I've ever seen, though, and worth seeing again. Uma is a badass.

Not on par with Quentin's other work, and missing the witty banter that usually flows like water from his characters. I will have to see it again, with a different mind-set, as right now I just feel wierd about it. A very strange film. I want to like it, but don't really know how I feel about it.

Daryll Hannah should not be in this movie.

bradexample · 10-11-2003, 09:19 AM

i liked it a whole bunch.

Vales419 · 10-11-2003, 10:23 AM

Being a huge Quentin fan, my wife and I saw Kill Bill yesterday and we both were quite impressed. Lots of good action sequences, the story itself is very amazing. Also the japanese-anime that he through into the movie was very cool and unexpected. If you are Quentin fan, I recommend it.

Peace.

V.

m0rpheus · 10-11-2003, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kyp
Waitwaitwait wait.... There was a story?!?! Did we see the same movie? I don't remember there being a story, just a chick with a sword killing people. I seriously do not understand people. You rant and rave about how story and plot and all that is what makes a movie, and then Kill Bill comes out with nothing but blood and gore, and you rant and rave about how good it is... ugh... I'm going to go beat my head up against the wall.

You know your right the story wasnt really that impressive. In fact it was pretty basic so far.
It was the cinematography that blew me away. It was just presented in such a beautiful (albeit gory) way that I was just sitting in awe at how good Tarantino can make a movie look.

Remember,
"Revenge is a dish best served cold."
--Old Klingon Proverb

skyscan · 10-11-2003, 09:17 PM

Ok, time for yet another Kill Bill review. I loved it. Never before have I seen a movie that was black and white/ color/ and animation. Must say, black and white along with animation brought in an extra something and were used well. The camera shots are excellent. Not sure why people say they wouldn't go to the movies to see the movie. People, its Quentin Tarentino. Beyond that, it's a great movie. Go to your theatre and get a ticket. Go see it.

lordjeebus · 10-12-2003, 12:50 AM

Just got back from Kill Bill.

This movie's got crazy style. It's also hilarious sometimes.

I liked it more than Reservoir Dogs or Jackie Brown. I wondered if Tarantino could still make something fresh and cool -- he did.

Spinach_Indeed · 10-12-2003, 01:57 AM

I saw it a few hours ago. Blew me away.

The plot is not terribly complex and it doesn't need to be. It's simple and quirky and better than most of the trite Hollywoods comes out with anyway. That being said, the Genre-blending was excellent. I love seeing something with 2 or more genres squished together to create something Orginal and yet classic at the same time. The humor was in all the right places at all the right moments. I've always liked Uma Thurman and this just shot her higher on my list.

The only disapointment I have is Lucy Lui's performance, I think my hopes were simply too high. She didn't do BAD, It just expecting her to be mind-blowingly awesome.

And is it wrong to want to be Momo's Sex Slave?

conversequietus · 10-12-2003, 09:21 PM

I saw it and I don't have an opinion on it yet for a couple of reasons:

1) Though it did have a vague feeling to end, there was a big enough cliffhanger where I feel I can't judge the first half unless I see the second half.

2) I got to the theatre late and had to sit in one of the front rows. I was minorly concerned about the pain in my neck and didn't let me concentrate on it be art rather than moving pictures. Therefore, I couldn't judge whatever artistic qualities therein.

3) I'm a slow Tarantino learner. I have to see his movies a couple of times to let myself get the whole picture. I hated Pulp Fiction until about two years ago when it finally clicked.

Visually, though, it's worth the 8 or so bones you've gotta pay to see it. It's fast and colorful. There's a certain amount of very superfical excitement to it, as well. A lot of good stuff is lying under the surface, but it's eye candy just the same.

Two cents.

Sledge · 10-13-2003, 01:12 AM

There's a book called Exercises in Style. Written by a french poet, he relates the story of a man on a bus who accuses his neighbor of jostling him. He does it 99 times, a different style for every chapter - extended metaphors, odes, haiku, passive.

I see Kill Bill as kind of a filmmaker's Exercises in Style - he's crammed so much into it. The story is interesting, if not particularly outstanding, and the dialogue is below par for Tarantino, but the light and the timing and the music and the glorious, glorious fighting more than make up for it.

What I liked best was the feeling throughout the movie that everyone involved with its production was having a shitload of fun.

poot · 10-13-2003, 02:02 AM

First going to say that this movie absolutely ROCKED THE FUCKIN' HOUSE DOWN so that I can next point out the problems I had with the (half) movie:

1) So much build-up and back story for O-ren, and the last fight, which was supposed to be a climax for the House of Blue Leaves chapter... was kind of a let-down. I just figured it would be more elaborate, or breathtaking.

2) The last-minute split is so obvious it hurts. Barely any bride backstory? Michael Madsen in the film for almost 30 seconds? Feh. QT's style doesn't really work with a half-flick.

3) Glaringly bad acting/dialogue delivery: in the kitchen between Veronica Green/The Bride (sounded like angry robots), most between O-ren and the Bride.

4) Again, O-ren deserved a more elaborate death :P.

Somewhat nominal issues. Definitely one of the best action movies out there.. Vol 2 may make it the best, esp when it's released in its unchopped form.

wondash · 10-13-2003, 04:33 AM

Excellent action flic! The music was awesome! Anime very cool! Story.... revenge, simple as that. The fight scene in the House Of Blue Leaves is what the Matrix Reloaded should have been!!!

skippy · 10-13-2003, 04:48 AM

I just saw this Movie ... it is outstanding... As for the concerns about blood... Nah.. Have you ever seen monty python shows where they lose an arm and fake blood is pumped out....

Almost all of the "blood" in this movie had the audience laughing out loud. They were cracking right up. because it's fake enough to be very very funny.

I am in love with Uma Thurmon..... WOW

Skippy

Troublebot · 10-13-2003, 08:58 AM

I loved the flick.

Somewhere, I read a review that stated that cutting it into two movies actually helps keep the gore to a nice level. At 160 minutes, it stayed flashy and a little unreal, at three full hours I think it would have been too much.

IckUber · 10-13-2003, 10:58 AM

This movie kicked so much fucking ass.

Conclamo Ludus · 10-13-2003, 11:41 AM

It was everything that I wanted out of it and much much more. The blending of styles is great. The Eastern and Western styles blended together beautifully. It wouldn't surprise me if it doesn't do all that well in America, but the box office #'s really don't mean much to me. Its a movie I could enjoy watching again and again. I think they divided it up perfectly and I'm glad now that they decided on two parts. Great stuff. There's something for every movie geek in a movie like this. Its great to have Quentin back again.

Food Eater Lad · 10-13-2003, 08:31 PM

I thought that the plot was minimal, the acting was terrible, the dialouge was awful and the music was distracting. If anyone likes this movie for anything other than the fighting, they are delusional.

Chingal0 · 10-14-2003, 12:12 AM

I second, third, fourth everyone here. Fabulous movie, and it was everything I expected - as far as directing. The gore however, I didnt expect. I went in with expectations of gore, but I had no idea what I was about to experience. The gratitious use of gore was fabulous, and certainly made myself and everyone else I was with laugh. Definetly worth seeing if you havent already!

Snoogans · 10-14-2003, 01:56 AM

You guys will be able to get it on DVD before it gets here....

Pellaz · 10-14-2003, 01:03 PM

Well, I just got back from seeing it, and I was astounded. The story was around the complexity level that I was expecting, although I was astounded at the amount of back story given to many of the characters, I simply wasn't expecting it.

The use of blood and gore in the movie, oh so reminescent of 80's slasher flicks, felt more to me like Tarinto had realized that we have become desensetized to death and violence on screen, and that he needed a visual exclamation mark.

I was also impressed with the quick and brutal deaths found throughout the film, and although I'll always love Inigo Montoya, and the heroic kinds of fights that his personified in the Princess Bride, that's usualy the only kinds of death you see in american movies that aren't about war, so a nice refresher there.

Well, I don't think I can say anything else, and continue to deny the urge to go over most scenes in detail. It's enough that I'd highly recommend it to anyone who likes Tarintino films, enjoyed the old spaggetti westerns, or just has a hankering for a huge dose of cinematic style.

Sledge · 10-14-2003, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Snoogans
You guys will be able to get it on DVD before it gets here....

Now that is a disturbing avatar.

YaWhateva · 10-14-2003, 02:08 PM

best. movie. ever,

pocon1 · 10-14-2003, 02:30 PM

I enjoyed the heck out of it. I like the homage to Bruce Lee's Game of Death movie at the end of Kill Bill.

10-04-2003, 03:28 AM	#42 (permalink)
arcane Insane Location: SLC, UT	im definately glad to see a new Quentin Tarantino movie i looked forward to his past releases and own most of them on dvd. i hope im not disappointed __________________ <Arcane> so if you banged 2000 chicks then at least one had a pen0r?

10-07-2003, 08:16 PM	#46 (permalink)
Cynthetiq Tilted Cat Head Administrator Location: Manhattan, NY	OMFG!!!! It was incredible...just got back from the red carpet premiere... never been to one before. I'm not going to spoil the story...but it was very much a fun movie to watch. Lots of genres slammed together. __________________ I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not. What's the best nation in the world? DO-NATION!

10-08-2003, 05:54 AM	#47 (permalink)
quadro2000 All Possibility, Made Of Custard Location: New York, NY	As I went last night with Cynthetiq...I'll put in my quick two cents without spoiling anything. The movie is definitely his homage to kung-fu flicks and as such, there are parts that seemed to be a little cheesy to me. However, the movie never really takes itself that seriously, so it's all in good fun. The movie was definitely in the traditional Tarantino style - nonlinear (but never unclear), a little choppy, great music, more blood than I ever imagined I'd see, and quite entertaining. I'm glad they cut it into two pieces - it was just the right length and ended at a good point. The fight scenes are fantastic. The final fight sequences (occurring at The House Of Blue Leaves) are really impressive. Uma Thurman does a great job. __________________ You have to laugh at yourself...because you'd cry your eyes out if you didn't. - Emily Saliers

10-09-2003, 04:19 PM	#49 (permalink)
IckUber Funran Location: Norman, OK	Febuary, the second part is out in feb. __________________ How much is y'all Piolkles?

10-10-2003, 04:11 PM	#50 (permalink)
Mondak Industrialist Location: Southern California	I was temepted to start a new thread now that the movie is out, BUT.... Mondak says: "Go see Kill Bill!" Don't read anything about the movie. Go in fresh with no proconceived notions and then return and read stuff. I had a great time skipping the afternoon of work and seeing a matinee. Oh yeah - can anyone tell me what the red dots were that kept appearing. Don't worry - that is not a spoiler. Just kinda weird. __________________ All truth passes through three stages: First it is ridiculed Second, it is violently opposed and Third, it is accepted as self-evident. ARTHUR SCHOPENHAUER (1788-1860)

10-04-2003, 06:10 PM	#43 (permalink)
Elegant Holmes Crazy Location: "TX"	There has never been a more elegant actress than Uma Thurman in "Dangerous Liasons". Ugghnamumph.

10-05-2003, 06:38 PM	#44 (permalink)
Mind_Storm Tilted Location: The Finger Lakes of New York	http://www.empireonline.co.uk/news/news.asp?story=5063 Kill Bill DVD Details Tarantino lays out his multi-release plans 02/10/2003 Looking forward to Kill Bill? Well, you should be looking forward to the DVD as well, according to Quentin Tarantino, who Empire Online saw today when he cruised in to London in advance of tonight's premiere, you may need a separate shelf just to hold his vision for Kill Bill's home release. "I'm thinking about it big time already," he said. "I can't imagine a better movie when it comes to great DVD stuff. I'm gonna really play fair as far as the DVD's concerned, you know? We'll come up with separate DVDs for Volume 1 and Volume 2 and I'll do special stuff for each of those. Then we'll come up with a real big version with them both together but I won't repeat the special stuff I put on Volume 1 and Volume 2. I'll do something whole other from that. I might even do some other little movie thing just to go on that special double feature version." As to what exactly this 'other little movie thing' might be, Tarantino's not telling but the director makes no apologies for his plans to release as many versions as possible. "I'm all about being a collector man. You know? Come out with all the different junk you can."

10-08-2003, 09:42 PM	#48 (permalink)
John Falcon Psycho Location: New York, CA	I can't wait until Friday.

10-10-2003, 06:02 PM	#51 (permalink)
Mr. Spacemonkey Wake up Location: Nowhere special	I just saw it earlier today. It was cool. __________________ "I hope that when the world comes to an end, I can breathe a sigh of relief, because there will be so much to look forward to." -- Donnie Darko

10-10-2003, 06:07 PM	#52 (permalink)
DownwardSpiral The Funeral of Hearts Location: Trapped inside my mind. . .	I saw it earlier today as well, not too bad. __________________ "So Keep on Pretending. Our Heavens Worth the Waiting. Keep on Pretending. It's Alright." -- H.I.M., "Pretending"

10-10-2003, 08:11 PM	#53 (permalink)
Xiangsu Addict Location: Illinois	Very good, now if only it were a complete film. When that happens it will be great.

10-10-2003, 10:35 PM	#54 (permalink)
battlemouth Robot Lovin' Location: Boston	i just saw kill bill and i must say that it was the most fabulous movie i have ever seen!! it was so beautiful and the gore! my lord what a lovely movie!! i want to see it again and again! __________________ like a bullet through a flock of doves

10-10-2003, 11:05 PM	#55 (permalink)
quest1mark Insane	i just came back from the movie as well. i enjoyed how he mixed different techniques into the story line (aka lucy liu's childhood). the soundtrack was great too! i couldnt believe RZA from Wu-Tang did it!! __________________ Best told at a place called...the TFP. on a quest...

10-11-2003, 02:41 AM	#57 (permalink)
Porkchop Psycho Location: Good ol Blighty	The trailers make you want to see it. If you into that type of movie or tarintino. Maybe not as accesible as his other movies we will see. Going to see this next week when released over here. __________________ Be cool btch now btch be cool Sport 1976 Taxi Driver.

10-11-2003, 05:21 AM	#58 (permalink)
QuasiMojo King Knave Location: Lancaster	Very good movie. However Tarantino does something with the Anime` scenes that made me physically uncomfortable...Gosh, I felt like i was that dude in "clockwork orange" It IS disturbing...something about going from hyperviolence right into comic fantasy...you switch gears ALOT when you view this movie. Maybe thats why it seems like such a ride. __________________ AzAbOv ZoBeLoE

10-11-2003, 08:55 AM	#59 (permalink)
docbungle It's all downhill from here Location: Denver	I thought it was awkward and did not flow smoothly at all. Editing was bizzare and off-putting. The fight scenes were the best I've ever seen, though, and worth seeing again. Uma is a badass. Not on par with Quentin's other work, and missing the witty banter that usually flows like water from his characters. I will have to see it again, with a different mind-set, as right now I just feel wierd about it. A very strange film. I want to like it, but don't really know how I feel about it. Daryll Hannah should not be in this movie. __________________ Bad Luck City

10-11-2003, 09:19 AM	#60 (permalink)
bradexample Psycho Location: new york	i liked it a whole bunch.

10-11-2003, 10:23 AM	#61 (permalink)
Vales419 Crazy Location: Purgatory	Being a huge Quentin fan, my wife and I saw Kill Bill yesterday and we both were quite impressed. Lots of good action sequences, the story itself is very amazing. Also the japanese-anime that he through into the movie was very cool and unexpected. If you are Quentin fan, I recommend it. Peace. V. __________________ "Here's ten bucks, bring me the head of Barry Manilow" --Dr. Denis Leary

10-11-2003, 09:17 PM	#63 (permalink)
skyscan Tilted Location: Missouri	Ok, time for yet another Kill Bill review. I loved it. Never before have I seen a movie that was black and white/ color/ and animation. Must say, black and white along with animation brought in an extra something and were used well. The camera shots are excellent. Not sure why people say they wouldn't go to the movies to see the movie. People, its Quentin Tarentino. Beyond that, it's a great movie. Go to your theatre and get a ticket. Go see it. __________________ Media Stew

10-12-2003, 12:50 AM	#64 (permalink)
lordjeebus ‚±‚Ìˆó˜U‚ª–Ú‚É“ü‚ç‚Ê‚© Location: College	Just got back from Kill Bill. This movie's got crazy style. It's also hilarious sometimes. I liked it more than Reservoir Dogs or Jackie Brown. I wondered if Tarantino could still make something fresh and cool -- he did.

10-12-2003, 01:57 AM	#65 (permalink)
Spinach_Indeed Banned? Location: Artic Tundra	I saw it a few hours ago. Blew me away. The plot is not terribly complex and it doesn't need to be. It's simple and quirky and better than most of the trite Hollywoods comes out with anyway. That being said, the Genre-blending was excellent. I love seeing something with 2 or more genres squished together to create something Orginal and yet classic at the same time. The humor was in all the right places at all the right moments. I've always liked Uma Thurman and this just shot her higher on my list. The only disapointment I have is Lucy Lui's performance, I think my hopes were simply too high. She didn't do BAD, It just expecting her to be mind-blowingly awesome. And is it wrong to want to be Momo's Sex Slave? __________________ Spinach in Need is Spinach Indeed

10-12-2003, 09:21 PM	#66 (permalink)
conversequietus Insane	I saw it and I don't have an opinion on it yet for a couple of reasons: 1) Though it did have a vague feeling to end, there was a big enough cliffhanger where I feel I can't judge the first half unless I see the second half. 2) I got to the theatre late and had to sit in one of the front rows. I was minorly concerned about the pain in my neck and didn't let me concentrate on it be art rather than moving pictures. Therefore, I couldn't judge whatever artistic qualities therein. 3) I'm a slow Tarantino learner. I have to see his movies a couple of times to let myself get the whole picture. I hated Pulp Fiction until about two years ago when it finally clicked. Visually, though, it's worth the 8 or so bones you've gotta pay to see it. It's fast and colorful. There's a certain amount of very superfical excitement to it, as well. A lot of good stuff is lying under the surface, but it's eye candy just the same. Two cents.

10-13-2003, 01:12 AM	#67 (permalink)
Sledge Pasture Bedtime	There's a book called Exercises in Style. Written by a french poet, he relates the story of a man on a bus who accuses his neighbor of jostling him. He does it 99 times, a different style for every chapter - extended metaphors, odes, haiku, passive. I see Kill Bill as kind of a filmmaker's Exercises in Style - he's crammed so much into it. The story is interesting, if not particularly outstanding, and the dialogue is below par for Tarantino, but the light and the timing and the music and the glorious, glorious fighting more than make up for it. What I liked best was the feeling throughout the movie that everyone involved with its production was having a shitload of fun.

10-13-2003, 02:02 AM	#68 (permalink)
poot Upright	First going to say that this movie absolutely ROCKED THE FUCKIN' HOUSE DOWN so that I can next point out the problems I had with the (half) movie: 1) So much build-up and back story for O-ren, and the last fight, which was supposed to be a climax for the House of Blue Leaves chapter... was kind of a let-down. I just figured it would be more elaborate, or breathtaking. 2) The last-minute split is so obvious it hurts. Barely any bride backstory? Michael Madsen in the film for almost 30 seconds? Feh. QT's style doesn't really work with a half-flick. 3) Glaringly bad acting/dialogue delivery: in the kitchen between Veronica Green/The Bride (sounded like angry robots), most between O-ren and the Bride. 4) Again, O-ren deserved a more elaborate death :P. Somewhat nominal issues. Definitely one of the best action movies out there.. Vol 2 may make it the best, esp when it's released in its unchopped form.

10-13-2003, 04:33 AM	#69 (permalink)
wondash Psycho	Excellent action flic! The music was awesome! Anime very cool! Story.... revenge, simple as that. The fight scene in the House Of Blue Leaves is what the Matrix Reloaded should have been!!!

10-13-2003, 04:48 AM	#70 (permalink)
skippy Banned	I just saw this Movie ... it is outstanding... As for the concerns about blood... Nah.. Have you ever seen monty python shows where they lose an arm and fake blood is pumped out.... Almost all of the "blood" in this movie had the audience laughing out loud. They were cracking right up. because it's fake enough to be very very funny. I am in love with Uma Thurmon..... WOW Skippy

10-13-2003, 08:58 AM	#71 (permalink)
Troublebot Intently Rocking Location: Davey's	I loved the flick. Somewhere, I read a review that stated that cutting it into two movies actually helps keep the gore to a nice level. At 160 minutes, it stayed flashy and a little unreal, at three full hours I think it would have been too much. __________________ Howard Moon: The wind is my only friend. Wind: [whistling] I hate you.

10-13-2003, 10:58 AM	#72 (permalink)
IckUber Funran Location: Norman, OK	This movie kicked so much fucking ass. __________________ How much is y'all Piolkles?

10-13-2003, 11:41 AM	#73 (permalink)
Conclamo Ludus Modern Man Location: West Michigan	It was everything that I wanted out of it and much much more. The blending of styles is great. The Eastern and Western styles blended together beautifully. It wouldn't surprise me if it doesn't do all that well in America, but the box office #'s really don't mean much to me. Its a movie I could enjoy watching again and again. I think they divided it up perfectly and I'm glad now that they decided on two parts. Great stuff. There's something for every movie geek in a movie like this. Its great to have Quentin back again. __________________ Lord, have mercy on my wicked soul I wouldn't mistreat you baby, for my weight in gold. -Son House, Death Letter Blues

10-13-2003, 08:31 PM	#74 (permalink)
Food Eater Lad Banned	I thought that the plot was minimal, the acting was terrible, the dialouge was awful and the music was distracting. If anyone likes this movie for anything other than the fighting, they are delusional.

10-14-2003, 12:12 AM	#75 (permalink)
Chingal0 Something like that.. Location: Oreygun.	I second, third, fourth everyone here. Fabulous movie, and it was everything I expected - as far as directing. The gore however, I didnt expect. I went in with expectations of gore, but I had no idea what I was about to experience. The gratitious use of gore was fabulous, and certainly made myself and everyone else I was with laugh. Definetly worth seeing if you havent already! __________________ "Eventually I became too sexy for my gym membership fee."

10-14-2003, 01:56 AM	#76 (permalink)
Snoogans Veteran Location: Uppsala, Sweden	You guys will be able to get it on DVD before it gets here.... __________________ Internet hint: If someone's asking if what they do is weird, it always is.

10-14-2003, 01:03 PM	#77 (permalink)
Pellaz Addict Location: Texas	Well, I just got back from seeing it, and I was astounded. The story was around the complexity level that I was expecting, although I was astounded at the amount of back story given to many of the characters, I simply wasn't expecting it. The use of blood and gore in the movie, oh so reminescent of 80's slasher flicks, felt more to me like Tarinto had realized that we have become desensetized to death and violence on screen, and that he needed a visual exclamation mark. I was also impressed with the quick and brutal deaths found throughout the film, and although I'll always love Inigo Montoya, and the heroic kinds of fights that his personified in the Princess Bride, that's usualy the only kinds of death you see in american movies that aren't about war, so a nice refresher there. Well, I don't think I can say anything else, and continue to deny the urge to go over most scenes in detail. It's enough that I'd highly recommend it to anyone who likes Tarintino films, enjoyed the old spaggetti westerns, or just has a hankering for a huge dose of cinematic style. __________________ " ' Big Mouth. Remember it took three of you to kill me. A god, a boy, and, last and least, a hero.' "

10-14-2003, 02:08 PM	#79 (permalink)
YaWhateva Friend Location: New Mexico	best. movie. ever, __________________ “If the Americans go in and overthrow Saddam Hussein and it's clean, he has nothing, I will apologize to the nation, and I will not trust the Bush administration again.” - Bill O'Reilly "This is my United States of Whateva!"

10-14-2003, 02:30 PM	#80 (permalink)
pocon1 Banned	I enjoyed the heck out of it. I like the homage to Bruce Lee's Game of Death movie at the end of Kill Bill.