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highthief 01-15-2010 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by LoganSnake (Post 2748248)
I don't think Superman should even be on this list. There are way too many characters who would be able to kick his ass. Some much faster than others.

Hater.

Fact is, Hulk Hogan would kick the ass of everyone on the list, especially of the crowd starts the "USA, USA" chant.

ObieX 01-15-2010 07:33 AM

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/f...ny-forever.jpg

Demi-God? :p

ironpham 01-15-2010 08:31 AM

^^Did anyone see that one match with Hogan and the Ultimate Warrior? They both got their "second wind" at the same time and marched around the ring getting hyped up...hilarious.

As far as most powerful fictional character, I'd say that anyone with the ability to control/freeze time would be the strongest.

Xerxys 01-15-2010 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ObieX (Post 2748572)

No, not Demi- god .. here's proof.


Jhon Smitch 01-21-2010 05:33 AM

Most powerful fictional character? Without a doubt, it has to be
Haruhi Suzumiya. No one is more powerful than a deity. :]

Leto 01-21-2010 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeraph (Post 2748275)
The silver age comic super mans (or whatever they're called) where he can travel faster than light and go back in time don't count. Most fans don't even count those versions anymore :) Also, I'm pretty sure he just slowly dies if kryptonite is around. That's a pretty big glaring weakness. And its one everyone knows about. Its not like its even a secret. A normal human with a kryptonite necklace can beat superman up. That's pretty bad.


well, I'm pretty sure that the silver age Superman is the one to go with. That marks my formative years. As for kryptonite, every body has their Achilles' heal, it's what makes them tragic.

Charlatan 02-17-2010 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Xerxys (Post 2748499)

Now, I read all the essays of Tolkien in the Unfinisdhed Tales and was unable to get info on Goblins. I know Orcs came from Elves initially making them a strong and combative force (much like Ants) and Uruk'ai (sp?) were the amalgamation of both Orcs and Men add to that very well trained and good at taking orders. So I assume they either came from a lower breed of Dwarves. The same way the hobbit Smeagol was transformed into Golum by the One Ring.

Everything I've read says that Goblins and Orcs are the same thing in Tolkien's Middle-Earth. The usual distinction is that Goblins are what Hobbits call Orcs, hence its use in The Hobbit and not in LOTR.

Zeealpal 02-20-2011 10:43 PM

What about the Doctor?
 
I know this is a bit of a later reply, but what about the 9th Doctor from Doctor Who?

I mean at the end of the series, when Rose, a human, absorbs the power of the time vortex itself, she gains the ability to rewrite time, create and destroy any object, bring people back to life.

The Doctor then takes this energy into himself, to save Rose,which he then puts back into the Tardis, but what if he kept it?

Now imagine the Doctor, a Timelord whose mind already sees the past, present and possibilities of the future, can feel the earth moving through space, Imagine him being able to change time and space itself, fully comprehend and understand things others cannot imagine, to create and divide the atoms of anything in the universe?

I know he is not always like that, but at that moment, does the Doctor not have to power greater than any so far mentioned characters? Idk Perhaps not, although i think so.

Of course hes not fictional so there is no point of including him in this debate xD

Jetée 02-20-2011 11:55 PM

The latest reply (above) just sort of succinctly argued one side of the argument in which was goingst about in me head about 20 minutes ago (before I popped in now): what makes any one (fictional) entity "truly" powerful? Is it the supernatural ability therein within the speculative mind of the character's will, (to bend time/space and/or spoons) or an we just do it the old-fashioned way, and hurl a flaming meteor towards them and see which of the two breaks first? (the visual allusion towards the ever-impossible scale to quantifying the 'might of the fist')

I'll keep myself busy with this, my self-issued query.

In the mean, this lends itself to being here, if not during the first thread re-boot, then now, some odd years later in whih I recall it existed in the first place, seems a good enough time (excuse) to share: The Bad-Ass Quotient System (measure someone's bad-assness)


["Tilted Trampoline"]

Fremen 02-21-2011 05:53 AM

I'll put forth the argument that the most powerful fictional character in comics is the mortal sidekick/every-man of the superhero. (like Jimmie Olsen)
The writer never (that I know of) kills them off because they're a staple of the stories.

Zeraph 02-22-2011 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Fremen (Post 2874967)
I'll put forth the argument that the most powerful fictional character in comics is the mortal sidekick/every-man of the superhero. (like Jimmie Olsen)
The writer never (that I know of) kills them off because they're a staple of the stories.

"Long time comic knower first time reader Jimmy"
i.e. I've read a small amount. But from other venues I know SK (side kicks) get killed off frequently if anything, compared to other main characters. Mainly because they're one of the few main characters and no one cares if the butler dies...


I might (cause I don't know how it ends) throw Ichigo Kuraski in there for the strongest fictional character.

Strange Famous 03-26-2011 02:43 PM

Aornis Hades

She basically can control the memory of anyone she is close to and can also contol entropy in physical proximity to herself. (ie, someone might die of sudden death syndrome, or hit by an icicle dropped from an airplane, if they get close to her and she wills it... the closer you get the more random things can happen... if you shot at her a bullet might turn into a butterfly when it was an inch away...)

In the books she is in, she does get caught in the end, but given her powers it seems more than likely to me she planted a false memory of her being served justice and just walked out the courtroom.

__

You can talk about your Gandalf's... if that fire demon had attacked Aornis he would have been drenched in a sudden downpour of water the second he got close to her... the white wizard would have been about to imprison her on the spire, and then forgotten she existed as she shrugged her shoulders and walked out the door and any Orc or Goblin that rushed on her has a random heart attack when he gets within 5 feet....

Baraka_Guru 03-26-2011 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Strange Famous (Post 2885546)
You can talk about your Gandalf's... if that fire demon had attacked Aornis he would have been drenched in a sudden downpour of water the second he got close to her... the white wizard would have been about to imprison her on the spire, and then forgotten she existed as she shrugged her shoulders and walked out the door and any Orc or Goblin that rushed on her has a random heart attack when he gets within 5 feet....

I'm sure she's a cool character and all, but this wouldn't be true. She would be up against foes with a similar level of power, a similar being, if you were to keep the same story elements.

That's what Gandalf was doing vs. the Balrog and Saruman. All were of the Maiar, or lesser Ainur.

How do you think that would play out? Two people with the same or similar level of power as Aornis Hades having it out?

Strange Famous 03-26-2011 03:02 PM

I am not really sure that two people with her powers could exist in the same space.

What I like about her is that none of her powers are assertive (at least she she uses them)... she doesnt shoot fireballs at people or build Orc armies... she can just drift carelessly through any threat and turn aggression used against her right around.

Ultimately, if she met another person like her, I think they'd make friends and work together.

Baraka_Guru 03-26-2011 03:49 PM

Even if it were a NegaAornis? ;)

Strange Famous 03-26-2011 04:09 PM

thats sounds a bit like the demon Sparrowhawk faced in the Earthsea novels.

Aornis is both the good and bad side of herself, so she could not be so neatly split in two.

Zeraph 03-28-2011 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Strange Famous (Post 2885552)
I am not really sure that two people with her powers could exist in the same space.

What I like about her is that none of her powers are assertive (at least she she uses them)... she doesnt shoot fireballs at people or build Orc armies... she can just drift carelessly through any threat and turn aggression used against her right around.

Ultimately, if she met another person like her, I think they'd make friends and work together.

Maybe she can set up an appointment with the Lady of Pain from Sigil. :D She doesn't shoot fireballs and she can drift through aggression...bit of a messier way...but who's counting? I think the Lady of Pain would loooove to meet her. hehe

Strange Famous 03-28-2011 01:05 PM

She might be powerful, but I dont know how she could get around Hades ability to control memory.

Zeraph 03-28-2011 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Strange Famous (Post 2886096)
She might be powerful, but I dont know how she could get around Hades ability to control memory.

Its a simple equation. The Lady is greater than all, combined.

With a thought she throws you in an inescapable maze. With a thought she can shatter greater deities. You *really* don't want her attention. She is the Bladed Queen. She's Zurg Kerrigan on crack.

Strange Famous 03-28-2011 02:00 PM

I dont think you can get around that the moment she concentrated her energy on Hades, she might forget who she was, forget how to conjure her maze, or anything else.

And what is to stop Hades control of random events turning this Pain Lady into a powerless Dinner Lady when she is about to strike her down?

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The only thing that prevents Hades being a God is that her powers are limited by her the limits of her attention and proximity.


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