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Old 08-23-2009, 07:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Wheel of Time

I am currently reading the last book that Robert Jordan wrote, Knife of Dreams. There is a trilogy in progress which the first book is to be realeased in november by another author. I have loathed the last few books in the series because they are just sooooo long and bloated with rediculously unncecessary side plots. However I feel invested in the series and simply have to know how it ends. Has anyone else read the series? If sso do you share my sentiments?
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Old 08-23-2009, 08:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I read the first seven or so books and the rest hadn't been written so I stopped.

The series was already over long and bloated by that time (as enjoyable as it was). I don't know if I will ever go back and read them all as it doesn't look like it will ever come to a satisfying end.
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Old 08-24-2009, 12:26 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Brandon Sanderson is finishing up the series.

I met Jordan at a book signing when the first book came out ( I also had him sign some Conan books he wrote. He wasn't thrilled) he said the series would run 6-8 books. 20yrs and 13 books later...
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Old 08-24-2009, 03:30 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I never really enjoyed the WoT books all that much, for some reason. They were kinda neat, and some nice ideas and whatnot, but just....too long and bloated. I can't remember exactly where I stopped, but I don't have much inclination to re-read them.
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Old 08-24-2009, 03:35 PM   #5 (permalink)
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There came a point when the story got to be repetitive and self serving, so I quit reading. Such is the downfall of starting a good story; there has to be a time to quit, and Jordan should have limited his series to six or seven novels. We might be talking about what a fantastic series it was instead of what a monstrosity it grew into.
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Old 08-24-2009, 05:34 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I was into it but quit after the first book because of the excessive detail and slow pace. It even inspired me to start a thread asking for less bloated, less 'epic' fantasy: http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/tilted-...sy-novels.html

I am curious how it will all end up, really just for the main characters, but I'll be happy with a neat and tidy plot summary rather than slogging my way through the entire series.

On the other hand, I can't recommend enough Joseph Abercrombie's The First Law trilogy. It's an ass-kicking, bare bones fantasy thriller that packs in huge battles, byzantine political intrigue and twisted heroics, all at a clipping pace.
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Old 08-24-2009, 07:05 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Have read them and will probably read the conclusion (if/when it ever arrives) - more for closure than content. The first 4 or 5 books were brilliant, but the scope just killed the series in the end. Too many plot threads and characters.
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Old 08-25-2009, 02:05 AM   #8 (permalink)
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sooooo long and bloated with rediculously unncecessary side plots.
I feel this way about everything from that series. The only reason I think it gained as much success as it did is that because he was all over the damn place, he had a little bit of everything for everyone. Sadly, the 1/8th of each book that I might be interested in was soured by exercising my patience with the predictability of the other 7/8ths

he became very formulaic in his writing style once you picked up on it.
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Old 08-30-2009, 10:29 PM   #9 (permalink)
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FYI... TOR.com has just posted a series of re-read synopses for the earlier books. I think they are doing it in advance of the release of the latest book this October.

Tor.com / Science fiction and fantasy / Blog posts / Wheel of Time Re-Read Index
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Old 09-01-2009, 11:47 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Yep I thought the first 3 or 4 books were great then it slowed down far too much. If somone could edit the next 8 books into 3 maybe 4 then it would be so much better.
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Old 09-01-2009, 11:57 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I did love the first 4 books the best liek everyone else. And I am so tired of some of his bickering, yet there is some brilliance at moments in his writing, and some of the foreshadowing that goes on. I am glad Sanderson is finishing it off he is an amazing author, and I hope he can really make the last few books shine.
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Old 09-08-2009, 03:34 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Tor does have the first chapter on available on the web if you want to sneak a peak.
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Old 03-30-2010, 02:46 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Just read The Gathering Storm the latest wheel of time book written by Brandon Sanderson following Robert Jordan's death. Have to say it is very good, lot faster pace and far more enjoyable than the more recent books written by Jordan. Made me fall back in love with the series so much so that I am reading them alll again from the start.
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Old 03-30-2010, 03:35 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Just read The Gathering Storm the latest wheel of time book written by Brandon Sanderson following Robert Jordan's death. Have to say it is very good, lot faster pace and far more enjoyable than the more recent books written by Jordan. Made me fall back in love with the series so much so that I am reading them alll again from the start.
This is encouraging. I bought the book 4 months ago, but I just have such a bad taste in my mouth from the last 4 or 5 that I can't bring myself to sit down and read it.
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Old 03-31-2010, 05:13 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Brandon Sanderson actually did a good job with the series, I didn't like he used Matt as comic relief alot, but besides that I liked the book. I really think the series needed a fresh face (writer) anyway. I could go into more detail, but I don't feel like adding spoiler tags to this post. 'Cause I'm lazy.
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Old 03-31-2010, 05:21 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I still need to start this series.

I'm really enjoying Sanderson's podcast Writing Excuses though.
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Old 03-31-2010, 05:35 AM   #17 (permalink)
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This is encouraging. I bought the book 4 months ago, but I just have such a bad taste in my mouth from the last 4 or 5 that I can't bring myself to sit down and read it.
+1 for this statement... I can't count the number of times I've tried to go back and start reading them again and by the time I get to that home stretch of books I'm bored and can't take reading them anymore. It's a major time investment to read that series too since I prefer to read them starting from the beginning each time.
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Old 08-31-2010, 12:35 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Nov 2, is when the next book is due out!
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Old 11-01-2010, 12:39 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Tomorrow the new Book is out, towers of midnight!!!
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Old 11-01-2010, 12:59 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Dammit... Sanderson just released the previous WoT novel last year and his own new series this year...and now another WoT book?

The guy has got to have money to burn by now....
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Old 11-01-2010, 12:59 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I'll be picking this one up this weekend, I've been reading alot of Brandon Sanderson's other books and I love his writing style. I'm really looking forward to this book.
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Old 11-01-2010, 02:53 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I got burned by Brian Herbert completing Frank's books (not good) so I will be skipping any more cases!
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Old 11-01-2010, 04:44 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I'll be picking this one up this weekend, I've been reading alot of Brandon Sanderson's other books and I love his writing style. I'm really looking forward to this book.
I really like Brandon Sanderson's books, at the same time I have come to fully realize he is unable to write shades of grey in to a character. All his charachters are either pure good or pure bad, even Mistborn which had a great opportunity to show other facets to characters did it poorly.

I will be at the store tomorrow about 1pm, and I am excited!
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Old 11-08-2010, 08:29 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Anyone else finish it yet?
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Old 11-08-2010, 08:55 AM   #25 (permalink)
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I've still got a backlog of several books leading up to it in the series before I pick it up =/
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