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a_divine_martyr · 08-18-2003, 04:27 PM

Kristanna Lokken's ass made the movie prrrrrfect.

My only gripe are the loopholes in the plot.

The series shoud have ended at 1. Reese goes off on how after they sent him throuhg, they blew the machine that sent them back.

And other misc. things I can't remember since it's been a while since I've seen it.

Mr.Deflok · 08-18-2003, 05:39 PM

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Originally posted by a_divine_martyr
Kristanna Lokken's ass made the movie prrrrrfect.

My only gripe are the loopholes in the plot.

The series shoud have ended at 1. Reese goes off on how after they sent him throuhg, they blew the machine that sent them back.

Sarah: "You're from the future?"
Reese: "One of many possible futures."

The time-travel business in the Terminator flicks are mind-fuckers.

But I agree with you, Kristanna is soooo yummy, she looked adorable in that AirForce Officer outfit.

a_divine_martyr · 08-18-2003, 06:06 PM

And I never understood why the machines kept sending machines back at various stages of John's life.

oldtimer · 08-18-2003, 07:47 PM

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Originally posted by a_divine_martyr
And I never understood why the machines kept sending machines back at various stages of John's life.

To kill him while he was <b>weak</b>. Duh!

docbungle · 08-18-2003, 07:57 PM

I liked it the same way I liked Pirates of The Carribean. Good, action-packed summer fun. I knew it wouldn't be as good as the first two, and it wasn't. But that's ok, because it wasn't trying to be better.

And I can't believe people are actually arguing about the "impossibilities" of electronic manipulation, vehichle manipulation, etc, etc...in the movie....it's the freaking TERMINATOR, not Scientific American!

Porkchop · 08-20-2003, 02:54 AM

Thought this was e decent enough follow up. imo not as good as other two but was never gonna be. Roll on 4 but let that be the conclusion. Series cant end like this one did.

^dude · 08-20-2003, 07:00 AM

I liked it yeah, although it definitely felt like more of just an action movies, then a drama/action like T2 was.

bad30th · 08-21-2003, 02:09 AM

T3 was definitely craptacular. I mean c'mon....the T-X (oooooo....ahhhhhh) chases them the entire movie...and in the end they just, ya know, blow it up...no big deal...and then, ya know, cause the explosion isnt that big, they just kinda dive out of its way....no biggie

GIVE ME A FRIGGIN BREAK

Legally Blonde 2 was more entertaining than that
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DISCLAIMER: Yes I did see Legally Blonde 2 and No it wasnt by choice.

Mr.Deflok · 08-21-2003, 02:32 PM

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Originally posted by bad30th
T3 was definitely craptacular. I mean c'mon....the T-X (oooooo....ahhhhhh) chases them the entire movie...and in the end they just, ya know, blow it up...no big deal...and then, ya know, cause the explosion isnt that big, they just kinda dive out of its way....no biggie

GIVE ME A FRIGGIN BREAK

Legally Blonde 2 was more entertaining than that
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DISCLAIMER: Yes I did see Legally Blonde 2 and No it wasnt by choice.

You liked Legaly Blonde 2 and not Terminator 3... that alone makes your rant worthless lol

bad30th · 08-21-2003, 03:01 PM

hey i didnt say i liked it...i just said it was more entertaining...there is a difference.

I guess i probably didnt like T3 because I was so let down...I dunno

Lasereth · 08-21-2003, 05:53 PM

I saw Terminator 3 in the theater, and man, that movie down right blows compared to the first two. Holy hell that movie is bad. There is a certain formula that works in the first two Terminators, and it is missing VERY noticeably in the third one.

I honestly wish it would not have been made. James Cameron created one of the most popular and critically acclaimed series in all of film-making, and I was REALLY pissed off to see it destroyed by a director and screenwriter that wanted to please the blockbuster audiences.

The Terminator series is made for those who want to think, those want to see a badass good guy and a badass bad guy fight it to the death and NOT feel guilty about it. You are not watching a Chuck Norris shitfilm in Terminator 2. When T-1000 walks down the hall in the beginning and the dreaded T-1000 theme kicks in while John frantically tries to open locked doors, you know you're watching a masterpiece. There is an aura of "awesomeness" during the entire movie in Terminator 2, and even a bit in the first one. These movies are not comedic even though they are more entertaining than most shitbox movies that come out today trying to make us laugh. We feel for a machine, we feel for a young boy and his mom trying to survive fate. We want to run from T-1000 ourselves, and even though we've already seen the movie, we still think that just *maybe* T-1000 will kill them this time. Robert Patrick as T-1000 is one of the best movie villains of all time.

You can honestly believe that the events in Terminator 2 can take place. The T-800 firing a minigun outside of the window down onto the police armada hasn't been rivaled in many movies. It's not over-the-top, it's not under-cool, it's JUST right. Cameron knows how to make a serious movie with a twinge of badass thrown in. He also knows which special effects will look good 10 years from now. Check out Terminator 2 right now, the graphics are still better than half of the crap that comes out today.

You believe that these machines are capable of killing people, and moreso than anything, they cannot be stopped. Sarah, John, and the T-800 are running from death the entire movie, but not in unreasonable circumstances. They make logical moves, and none of the characters make any one-liners that are out of context. When watching Terminator 2, you want everyone to survive, you hate it when Sarah Connor is shot by T-1000, and you want to punch Robert Patrick in the face for being such a good bad guy. At the end of the movie, we're all sad that the T-800 has to melt himself to get rid of the last chip. Any form of father figure that John will have is destroyed, all because of a future that John cannot change.

Terminator 3 is horrid. The Terminatrix could have worked, but where is the dreadful theme that accompanies T-1000? Do I care if John dies? No, not really. Do I care about the Claire Danes character? Ha ha. DO I CARE ABOUT THE T-800? Nope. The characters are all stale, unmoving, and not emotional. No one seems to get depressed that death is coming after them and WILL kill them. The CG in the movie blows out the ass and is an embarassment to film-making. In order to understand why this movie is inferior to the first two, particularly the second one, you have to understand the first two movies themselves. We don't watch the Terminator movies for action, we watch them because they deliver a plot with great characters. Even a machine is able to change through Terminator 2. Now that's character development.

Terminator 3 is a huge failure no matter which way you look at it. The only way I can see anyone liking it is if they didn't quite see the first two as I did, as they are truly meant to be seen -- as two of the greatest, emotional and action-packed masterpieces to hit the silverscreen.

-Lasereth

oldtimer · 08-22-2003, 12:22 PM

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Originally posted by Lasereth
I saw Terminator 3 in the theater, and man, that movie down right blows compared to the first two. Holy hell that movie is bad. There is a certain formula that works in the first two Terminators, and it is missing VERY noticeably in the third one.

I honestly wish it would not have been made. James Cameron created one of the most popular and critically acclaimed series in all of film-making, and I was REALLY pissed off to see it destroyed by a director and screenwriter that wanted to please the blockbuster audiences.

The Terminator series is made for those who want to think, those want to see a badass good guy and a badass bad guy fight it to the death and NOT feel guilty about it. You are not watching a Chuck Norris shitfilm in Terminator 2. When T-1000 walks down the hall in the beginning and the dreaded T-1000 theme kicks in while John frantically tries to open locked doors, you know you're watching a masterpiece. There is an aura of "awesomeness" during the entire movie in Terminator 2, and even a bit in the first one. These movies are not comedic even though they are more entertaining than most shitbox movies that come out today trying to make us laugh. We feel for a machine, we feel for a young boy and his mom trying to survive fate. We want to run from T-1000 ourselves, and even though we've already seen the movie, we still think that just *maybe* T-1000 will kill them this time. Robert Patrick as T-1000 is one of the best movie villains of all time.

You can honestly believe that the events in Terminator 2 can take place. The T-800 firing a minigun outside of the window down onto the police armada hasn't been rivaled in many movies. It's not over-the-top, it's not under-cool, it's JUST right. Cameron knows how to make a serious movie with a twinge of badass thrown in. He also knows which special effects will look good 10 years from now. Check out Terminator 2 right now, the graphics are still better than half of the crap that comes out today.

You believe that these machines are capable of killing people, and moreso than anything, they cannot be stopped. Sarah, John, and the T-800 are running from death the entire movie, but not in unreasonable circumstances. They make logical moves, and none of the characters make any one-liners that are out of context. When watching Terminator 2, you want everyone to survive, you hate it when Sarah Connor is shot by T-1000, and you want to punch Robert Patrick in the face for being such a good bad guy. At the end of the movie, we're all sad that the T-800 has to melt himself to get rid of the last chip. Any form of father figure that John will have is destroyed, all because of a future that John cannot change.

Terminator 3 is horrid. The Terminatrix could have worked, but where is the dreadful theme that accompanies T-1000? Do I care if John dies? No, not really. Do I care about the Claire Danes character? Ha ha. DO I CARE ABOUT THE T-800? Nope. The characters are all stale, unmoving, and not emotional. No one seems to get depressed that death is coming after them and WILL kill them. The CG in the movie blows out the ass and is an embarassment to film-making. In order to understand why this movie is inferior to the first two, particularly the second one, you have to understand the first two movies themselves. We don't watch the Terminator movies for action, we watch them because they deliver a plot with great characters. Even a machine is able to change through Terminator 2. Now that's character development.

Terminator 3 is a huge failure no matter which way you look at it. The only way I can see anyone liking it is if they didn't quite see the first two as I did, as they are truly meant to be seen -- as two of the greatest, emotional and action-packed masterpieces to hit the silverscreen.

-Lasereth

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE GOD DAMN THEME WAS MISSING! NO EMOTION AT ALL! I WILL BECOME A MOVIE DIRECTOR TO SPITE ALL THE BASTARDS WHO MAKE HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE CRAP! WHERE IS THE YEARN TO BE DIFFERENT? TO BE THE BEST? NO, THESE DAYS IT DOES NOT EXIST! MAKE MONEY, THAT IS THE GOAL! NO FUCKING IDEA HOW IT WILL MAKE A PERSON FEEL OR REFLECT ON THE MOVIE AFTERWARDS...SO MUCH TO SAY NOT ENOUGH ENGLISH IN THE WORLD TO EXPRESS IT....THUS ENDS my rant.
Aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! *moan of agony*

08-18-2003, 04:27 PM	#81 (permalink)
a_divine_martyr Insane	Kristanna Lokken's ass made the movie prrrrrfect. My only gripe are the loopholes in the plot. The series shoud have ended at 1. Reese goes off on how after they sent him throuhg, they blew the machine that sent them back. And other misc. things I can't remember since it's been a while since I've seen it. __________________ Censorship and thought control can only exist in secrecy and darkness...

08-18-2003, 06:06 PM	#83 (permalink)
a_divine_martyr Insane	And I never understood why the machines kept sending machines back at various stages of John's life. __________________ Censorship and thought control can only exist in secrecy and darkness...

08-18-2003, 07:57 PM	#85 (permalink)
docbungle It's all downhill from here Location: Denver	I liked it the same way I liked Pirates of The Carribean. Good, action-packed summer fun. I knew it wouldn't be as good as the first two, and it wasn't. But that's ok, because it wasn't trying to be better. And I can't believe people are actually arguing about the "impossibilities" of electronic manipulation, vehichle manipulation, etc, etc...in the movie....it's the freaking TERMINATOR, not Scientific American! __________________ Bad Luck City

08-20-2003, 02:54 AM	#86 (permalink)
Porkchop Psycho Location: Good ol Blighty	Thought this was e decent enough follow up. imo not as good as other two but was never gonna be. Roll on 4 but let that be the conclusion. Series cant end like this one did. __________________ Be cool btch now btch be cool Sport 1976 Taxi Driver.

08-21-2003, 05:53 PM	#91 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	I saw Terminator 3 in the theater, and man, that movie down right blows compared to the first two. Holy hell that movie is bad. There is a certain formula that works in the first two Terminators, and it is missing VERY noticeably in the third one. I honestly wish it would not have been made. James Cameron created one of the most popular and critically acclaimed series in all of film-making, and I was REALLY pissed off to see it destroyed by a director and screenwriter that wanted to please the blockbuster audiences. The Terminator series is made for those who want to think, those want to see a badass good guy and a badass bad guy fight it to the death and NOT feel guilty about it. You are not watching a Chuck Norris shitfilm in Terminator 2. When T-1000 walks down the hall in the beginning and the dreaded T-1000 theme kicks in while John frantically tries to open locked doors, you know you're watching a masterpiece. There is an aura of "awesomeness" during the entire movie in Terminator 2, and even a bit in the first one. These movies are not comedic even though they are more entertaining than most shitbox movies that come out today trying to make us laugh. We feel for a machine, we feel for a young boy and his mom trying to survive fate. We want to run from T-1000 ourselves, and even though we've already seen the movie, we still think that just maybe T-1000 will kill them this time. Robert Patrick as T-1000 is one of the best movie villains of all time. You can honestly believe that the events in Terminator 2 can take place. The T-800 firing a minigun outside of the window down onto the police armada hasn't been rivaled in many movies. It's not over-the-top, it's not under-cool, it's JUST right. Cameron knows how to make a serious movie with a twinge of badass thrown in. He also knows which special effects will look good 10 years from now. Check out Terminator 2 right now, the graphics are still better than half of the crap that comes out today. You believe that these machines are capable of killing people, and moreso than anything, they cannot be stopped. Sarah, John, and the T-800 are running from death the entire movie, but not in unreasonable circumstances. They make logical moves, and none of the characters make any one-liners that are out of context. When watching Terminator 2, you want everyone to survive, you hate it when Sarah Connor is shot by T-1000, and you want to punch Robert Patrick in the face for being such a good bad guy. At the end of the movie, we're all sad that the T-800 has to melt himself to get rid of the last chip. Any form of father figure that John will have is destroyed, all because of a future that John cannot change. Terminator 3 is horrid. The Terminatrix could have worked, but where is the dreadful theme that accompanies T-1000? Do I care if John dies? No, not really. Do I care about the Claire Danes character? Ha ha. DO I CARE ABOUT THE T-800? Nope. The characters are all stale, unmoving, and not emotional. No one seems to get depressed that death is coming after them and WILL kill them. The CG in the movie blows out the ass and is an embarassment to film-making. In order to understand why this movie is inferior to the first two, particularly the second one, you have to understand the first two movies themselves. We don't watch the Terminator movies for action, we watch them because they deliver a plot with great characters. Even a machine is able to change through Terminator 2. Now that's character development. Terminator 3 is a huge failure no matter which way you look at it. The only way I can see anyone liking it is if they didn't quite see the first two as I did, as they are truly meant to be seen -- as two of the greatest, emotional and action-packed masterpieces to hit the silverscreen. -Lasereth __________________ "A Darwinian attacks his theory, seeking to find flaws. An ID believer defends his theory, seeking to conceal flaws." -Roger Ebert

08-20-2003, 07:00 AM	#87 (permalink)
^dude Insane	I liked it yeah, although it definitely felt like more of just an action movies, then a drama/action like T2 was.

08-21-2003, 02:09 AM	#88 (permalink)
bad30th Insane Location: [insert witty play on location field here]	T3 was definitely craptacular. I mean c'mon....the T-X (oooooo....ahhhhhh) chases them the entire movie...and in the end they just, ya know, blow it up...no big deal...and then, ya know, cause the explosion isnt that big, they just kinda dive out of its way....no biggie GIVE ME A FRIGGIN BREAK Legally Blonde 2 was more entertaining than that . . . . . . . . . DISCLAIMER: Yes I did see Legally Blonde 2 and No it wasnt by choice.

08-21-2003, 03:01 PM	#90 (permalink)
bad30th Insane Location: [insert witty play on location field here]	hey i didnt say i liked it...i just said it was more entertaining...there is a difference. I guess i probably didnt like T3 because I was so let down...I dunno