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Old 06-27-2008, 04:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Cutest...movie...evar! 'nuff said!
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Old 06-27-2008, 04:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I want to go see this. Perhaps we'll take a break from moving and go see it tomorrow, as it's supposed to get into the upper 90s here and I wouldn't be surprised if it hit triple digits. I'm a sucker for these kinds of movies.
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Old 06-27-2008, 08:41 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Yet another great movie and instant classic from Pixar.

Though I'm not sure right now if it ranks my all-time favorite from them, which is The Incredibles. I think I'm gonna have to re-watch it before trying to rank things in my head.

Also, I can't help think if people will think that it's overrated. Last I checked, it has a 97% rating on Rotten Tomatoes, and while I think it's a great film, I'm just not sure if others would think that it deserves _that_ much praise.

Nevertheless, it's a very entertaining film and very cute. I'll totally buy a WALL-E right now to help take out my trash. :-)

The short film/cartoon at the beginning was also very well done.
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Old 06-27-2008, 08:50 PM   #4 (permalink)
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It makes fun of corporatism, obesity, and lethargy. I might just see it.
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Old 06-27-2008, 08:51 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I knew I wanted to see it when I saw the teaser trailer. I might see it this weekend.

It's getting rave reviews for sure. It's sitting at a 92% on Metacritc.

I can't wait.
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Old 06-27-2008, 10:55 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Great movie, my new favorite one from Pixar.
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Old 06-28-2008, 06:35 AM   #7 (permalink)
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We are taking the rugrat to see this either today or tomorrow. I always enjoy Pixar movies, so I'm betting I'll like this one too.
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Old 06-28-2008, 07:59 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I went to the midnight show Thursday and I loved it! I giggled pretty much the whole time because I love Pixar and their ability to give so much expression to things that don't talk.
They had a sign for free Wall*E watches and I really wanted one, but you had to redeem a kids ticket, *le sigh*
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Old 06-28-2008, 08:47 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I went to the midnight show Thursday and I loved it! I giggled pretty much the whole time because I love Pixar and their ability to give so much expression to things that don't talk.
They had a sign for free Wall*E watches and I really wanted one, but you had to redeem a kids ticket, *le sigh*
The 3-year-old sitting next to me had a WALL-E action figure that he was holding onto during the movie. Instant envy. Definitely a keeper for my office.
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Old 06-29-2008, 04:53 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I went to see it last night. I really enjoyed it, for me it was one of Pixar's best movies and thats saying alot.
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Old 06-29-2008, 05:46 AM   #11 (permalink)
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We took my daughter and her friend to see it yesterday. And while I will say it got a little 'long' in the middle, we all enjoyed it very much.

Truthfully though, I could have watched two hours of Wall-E wandering around the earth collecting little treasures, making cubes and going back to his little hideout. The animation in these scenes was gorgeous. I didn't even need the rest of the story, lol. Granted though, the movie wasn't made for me.

Oh, and the sound effects through the whole movie are ingenious, subtle and very effective.
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Old 06-29-2008, 06:31 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I am glad to hear that you all liked it so much. My kids are begging me to take them to see it. Now I can't wait to see it myself!
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Old 06-29-2008, 06:52 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Me and the gf went to see it last night and I thought it was pretty good.

She enjoyed it as well.
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Old 06-29-2008, 11:43 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Saw Wall-E last night with my fiancee.
I loved it.
As brilliant as every other Pixar film I've seen. I can't define favorites - each Pixar film does something different for me.

I'll have to see it again.
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Old 06-29-2008, 09:34 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I guess I get to be the party pooper. I thought Wall*E was very imaginative, visually impressive and had a wonderful premise.

Unfortunately, it then turned into a preachy mess of a story with sub par animation compared to the ruined beauty of the first half hour. Two hours of watching him move around garbage, watching his movies and enjoying his knick-knacks would've been infinitely better in my opinion than all the crap that actually followed. The attention to detail was amazing. The scenery was amazing. I was getting Chaplain and Fallout and The Dark Tower in lovely doses all at the same time.

And then things started happening, and that was pretty much the end of anything interesting and the beginning of being smashed in the face repeatedly with logical inconsistencies and preaching. The second half of the movie was dripping with smug, pretentious drivel. It wasn't cute; it wasn't fun; it wasn't interesting. The movie theater I was in was full of restless kids asking their parents if they could go home yet.

Far be it for me to not appreciate the message and allusions to 2001, but the "people" of the future were hyperbolic to the point of insipid and engaged in pathetic attempts at emotion. The two "saved" people gasping over Wall*E while he's being crushed by the machine? I'm sorry, but no. Just no. Why would they care about a random robot they've seen once before? Why would the events make any sense to them? The freaking captain had NO idea what "earth" meant. Why would any of those other people? Am I really supposed to believe that no one in the entire ship ever did anything but sit in a chair chatting on videophone while being mass consumers?

I mean, yes, I apparently am supposed to believe all of those things, and they're supposed to tug at my little heartstrings and make me fall in love with a robot and want to change the world. Instead, it only made me wonder why such a beautiful picture had to be ruined.

As a final parting note, fuck your mac boot up noise and iPod, Steve Jobs. Keep it in your hipster commercials and keep it out of your company's movies.
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Old 06-30-2008, 02:40 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I don't disagree with this summation about the story. I was a little disappointed when they left earth, too. And the story was preachy and I didn't understand how the people became so attached to Wall-E especially since the events seemed to play out in real time...which would have been about 45 minutes or so, lol.

But the children in the theater where I was watching it were not bored.

And I liked all the little noises. Probably because I don't know what either an iPod or a Mac sound like.
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Old 06-30-2008, 06:08 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Tip: check out "Idiocracy" - the Mike judge film. There's some borrowing going on in Wall-E - Judge deserves some concept credit.
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Old 06-30-2008, 06:41 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I thought it was awesome. My only complaint is that it's not out on DVD yet. I want to watch it again.
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Old 06-30-2008, 08:46 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I actually was lucky enough to get to see this at the Pixar location about a week before general release as I have a buddy who works there.

I liked it, but thought it seemed a little boring in the beginning/middle of it. I was pretty tired, so I am sure that doesn't help

btw, it is amazing how much goes into these movies. Pixar was full of all the concept art/scupltures/progressions of characters/storyboards/etc. Very impressive.

Overall, I enjoyed it, despite it seemingly slow for a while.
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Old 07-01-2008, 06:35 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Walle was great and had lots of adult-ish bits in it like sputnik, but the rabbit-magician short at the beginning had me spitting out my drink. That was damn funny.
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Old 07-01-2008, 10:41 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I liked the message. Sure, Wall-E just going about his routine was more entertaining, but I thought it was nice that they tried and in my opinion succeeded in creating a message. The people were unrealistic, but this is a cartoon, and I don't expect super-realism, but rather a simple attachment to realism from which it can move in whatever direction.

Besides, making fun of corporations is fun.
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:02 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I liked the message. Sure, Wall-E just going about his routine was more entertaining, but I thought it was nice that they tried and in my opinion succeeded in creating a message. The people were unrealistic, but this is a cartoon, and I don't expect super-realism, but rather a simple attachment to realism from which it can move in whatever direction.

Besides, making fun of corporations is fun.
And I'll be sure to be reminded of the "corporatism/consumerism/commercialism is bad" message message every time I use my Wall-e lunchbox, sheet set, alarm clock, activity set, motorized interactive talking figurines, tshirt, hat, backpack, sunglasses, wristwatch and especially my wii/ps2/ps3/psp/xbox360/ds Wall-e videogame. And it's a good thing that Wall-e was released by a tiny indy company, otherwise the "message" might seem a tad bit hypocritically ironic.
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:56 PM   #23 (permalink)
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And I'll be sure to be reminded of the "corporatism/consumerism/commercialism is bad" message message every time I use my Wall-e lunchbox, sheet set, alarm clock, activity set, motorized interactive talking figurines, tshirt, hat, backpack, sunglasses, wristwatch and especially my wii/ps2/ps3/psp/xbox360/ds Wall-e videogame. And it's a good thing that Wall-e was released by a tiny indy company, otherwise the "message" might seem a tad bit hypocritically ironic.
Well, they're a company like any other, and therefore they have to make money to pay their employees, who earn that money from the sales. Even Indie companies want to make heaping loads of cash, because they want to live comfortably, but because they don't have the luck to do that doesn't mean they have any more right to make fun of consumerism than Pixar.

This film makes a point to target those who let consumerism lead their lives. There's nothing wrong with consumerism, just when it is played out in excess, as seen to the extreme in this film. I'm a capitalist by mindset, and I think that money is important in living a comfortable lifestyle, therefore I like to earn money. That doesn't make me a hypocrite when I react unfavorably to those who think their diamonds and 42" flat screens are everything. There's a huge difference between enjoying your money and letting it control you. The latter of the two is what this film focuses on.

Pixar makes money by creating very well-made films, and they earn every penny. The marketing department helps that by creating toys and games and T-shirts the fans will hopefully enjoy, in order to fund the lifestyles of Pixar's employees while also funding more highly enjoyable motion pictures. There's nothing wrong with that, because it's up to people to realize when their money is being controlled by them and not by others, or even having the tables turned and having the money control them.

I hope that makes sense, I'm kind of in a daze right now, 'cause I just saw Wanted and really want to punch a wall.... but I know that will hurt like a bitch.
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Old 07-01-2008, 10:01 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I mean, I see your point that we live in a capitalist society and the point is to make money and artists should be able to criticize that, but it kind of tastes like ash coming from Disney. It's also about as subtle as a jackhammer, so it's got that going for it.

I really don't have any problems with the messages in the movie, hypocritical, completely reasonable, annoying or otherwise. I just have a problem with how insanely little they bothered to make the story compelling while smashing us in the face with the messages. The other Pixar movies are defined by what good stories they are and how tightly they work within that framework. They're about friendship, growing up, family, love and lots of other intimate and warm fuzzy feelings.

Wall-E shot high and shot way beyond that, but tried to frame it as a love story about two robots. And don't get me wrong, the love story between the robots, especially in the beginning, was just great. But the rest of the movie didn't hold up under the weights they placed on it.
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I'll give you that one. The movie definitely could have done better in the subtlety department, and should have focused slightly more on the love story rather than the realization of the now disgusting human race (I imagined fat people sex once during the film, don't want to do it again). However, it still left me entertained, so whatev'.
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Old 07-01-2008, 11:11 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Don't get me wrong, I was entertained.

However, I think Disney would be more than happy to be as "successful" as Buy-N-Large. In fact there were some eerie similarities between the scenes on the Axiom, and Disney World and its resorts.
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Old 07-02-2008, 03:43 AM   #27 (permalink)
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I actually was lucky enough to get to see this at the Pixar location about a week before general release as I have a buddy who works there.

I liked it, but thought it seemed a little boring in the beginning/middle of it. I was pretty tired, so I am sure that doesn't help

btw, it is amazing how much goes into these movies. Pixar was full of all the concept art/scupltures/progressions of characters/storyboards/etc. Very impressive.

Overall, I enjoyed it, despite it seemingly slow for a while.
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Old 07-03-2008, 07:48 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Yes, the film is part propaganda, but people are by now used to entertainment seasoned with lefty assumptions. It's no big deal.
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Wall-e was Cut-e. The message Pixar was shoveling at me was Lam-e but the movie was quite Enjoyabl-e.
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Old 07-06-2008, 04:21 AM   #31 (permalink)
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You know it was almost like a recreation of Johnny Five...anyone remember that movie? It looks cute!
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Yes he does. As described to me: Wall-e is like Short Circuit crossed with ET, and that is really true.
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Yes, the film is part propaganda, but people are by now used to entertainment seasoned with lefty assumptions.
Propaganda = lefty assumptions?

How about Triumph of the Will? Olympiad? Dirty Fucking Harry? Rambo? Death Wish? Red Dawn? Birth of a Nation? The Green Berets?

The politics behind the Incredibles was very right-wing (the collective opresses down-trodden race of Übermenschen). Hated that film, so of course my son loved it.
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Old 07-06-2008, 09:16 PM   #34 (permalink)
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A guy I graduated high school with (and did some theatre with at the time) has been a Pixar animator since the beginning, and he just got his big "break" by writing and directing "Presto", the short film before Wall-E.
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Well get that guy in charge of making the actual movies, because "Presto" was about a bazillion times better than "Wall-E." It was probably better than quite a few of their other feature length films, too, now that I think about it.
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But the children in the theater where I was watching it were not bored.
I don't know about my son, who is into robots, but was too tired to comment about the film. My daughter was definitely bored.

I was too. I started thinking "this movie is long" about 20-30 minutes into it. The problem is that it's basically a silent movie with un-interesting visuals. Wall-E seemed modeled after Chaplin's tramp character. I'm not a big Chaplin fan, but that does give you something to work with. I don't know why they didn't make more of it. There all sorts of possibilities with the garbage. The robot love story doesn't pack enough oomph to get past the visual tedium.

The whole spaceship bit should have been cut right out.

An ipod sounds like whatever you put in it. On a crowded commuter train, it sounds like a fly buzzing. Wall-E's reboot sound was the Macintosh boot bong.
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Old 07-09-2008, 03:19 PM   #37 (permalink)
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The film was PERFECT. The characters were hilarious, adorable, and well done. I loved all the references to various films - Titanic, 2001 Space Odyssey, etc. The message was a little in your face for me, but for children, I thought it was just subtle enough. The song at the end was absolutely amazing - I hope it wins the Oscar.
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Old 07-09-2008, 07:08 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Wall-E looks an awful lot like Johnny 5, haven't seen the movie yet, did rewatch Short Circuit, and yep they copied Johnny 5.
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I loved the animation done over the beginning of the ending credits. (I loved the rest of the movie as well, but the credits were outstanding.)
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Old 07-10-2008, 07:14 AM   #40 (permalink)
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We took our daughter to see it over the weekend. My favorite part was (and is) all the "grown-ups" in the theater talking about the heavy-handedness of the message. Well, here's a newsflash: the message (nor the movie itself) was not intended for our jaded asses.

My daughter (6-years-old) loved the movie and she didn't seem to have a problem with the "heavy-handedness" of the message. Since the movie is actually intended for an audience of pre-teens and earlier they have to be pretty overt with any message they are trying to convey.
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