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Strange Famous · 05-07-2008, 02:15 PM

Does anyone have a copy of this comic book?

I lent my copy to a colleague, but I need to know the exact words towards the end when Gull tells the committee "I have no peers present here" and what he says after that...

I tried Google, but I can only get quotes from the movie, which I dont think is exactly the same (the quote about delivering the 20th Century wasn't, and also made no sense in the movie, without the context... and the author of the quote suggested by the movie made even less sense! - but that's beside the point!)

silent_jay · 05-07-2008, 02:28 PM

Found a copy if it through torrents, not sure if that helps you out or not.

ratbastid · 05-07-2008, 03:00 PM

Well where the heck is my copy of From Hell? I know exactly where my Watchmen is...

I know the scene you're talking about, I think. When the Masons haul him in to answer for himself?

EDIT: Found it! Stand by.

Okay, here you go:

Mason: Knight of the East, you stand accused of mayhems that have placed our brotherhood in jeopardy, before your peers, masons and doctors both.

Gull: I have no peers here present.

Mason: What?

Gull: I fancy that you understand me, sir. There is no man amongst you fit to judge the almighty Art that I have wrought. Your rituals are empty oaths you neither understand nor live by. You cite the Great Architect yet would befoul yourselves should he address you. But he does NOT address you. Not Westcott there, nor Woodford by his side, for all their mummery. Not Dr. Howard, ever in his cups. And yet he speaks to ME, HE is the balance where my deeds are weighed and judged. Not you.

Mason: Sir William, this is insufferable. You do not seem to understand the seriousness of this charge. I fear you are suffering from delusions.

Gull: Indeed? Fear, rather, that I'm NOT. For rather it is YOU that misconstrues our human moment, its significance. Fear rather that in me there is an older troth made finally explicit. Our Dionysiac forbears sought to become instruments of God, a natural force and thus immortal. Behold my architecture: bricks of viscera, with knife as trowel, or...

Mason: Sir William? Are you fit to continue?

Gull: A-Anderson?

Mason: This man is ill. His testimony can be of no further benefit. Return him to his residence while we consider.

Gull: W-which room is this? The white? Or the red?

Strange Famous · 05-08-2008, 10:10 AM

brilliant, thanks a million mate

Charlatan · 05-08-2008, 02:22 PM

I have my copy but I see ratbastid has beat me to it...

Strange Famous · 05-23-2008, 01:35 PM

Its funny, cos I read Watchmen and From Hell quite close together, and I liked Watchmen and thought it was well done, but From Hell made a huge impression on me and Watchmen didnt - although I know it is generally thought to be Moore's best work.

I was so drawn to the conflict between Abberline and Gull: their two characters, Gull's mad genius and sheer force of personality and Abberline's grit and everydayness... I dont think I have ever read anything that made me almost jump out of my skin in the way I did when Gull suddenly materialised into a 20th century office.

and when you think about Abberline: fat, averagely intelligent, over sensitive, emotionally stunted, clumsy but hard - beat Gull (for all his posturing and grand theories) twice, in both of the things that really mattered (catching him and with regards to Mary) - even if in both cases he did it somewhat by accident.

The hollywood movie with Johnny Depp and Heather Graham flirting away was a very very poor imitation of the story of Fred and Emma

Troublebot · 05-23-2008, 05:52 PM

This just reminds me that I let my buddy borrow both From Hell and Watchmen and he has never returned them to me. Sigh.

Although I dig all of From Hell, I particularly enjoy the last chapter, "The Gullcatchers" where Moore talks about researching the project and how the answer may never really be known. This, and Moore's 9/11 piece are two of my faves from him.

05-07-2008, 02:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
Strange Famous follower of the child's crusade?	A strange request - From Hell by Alan Moore Does anyone have a copy of this comic book? I lent my copy to a colleague, but I need to know the exact words towards the end when Gull tells the committee "I have no peers present here" and what he says after that... I tried Google, but I can only get quotes from the movie, which I dont think is exactly the same (the quote about delivering the 20th Century wasn't, and also made no sense in the movie, without the context... and the author of the quote suggested by the movie made even less sense! - but that's beside the point!) __________________ "Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are plain in the sight of Heaven. For nothing hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain without being uncovered." The Gospel of Thomas

05-07-2008, 02:28 PM	#2 (permalink)
silent_jay Her Jay Location: Ontario for now....	Found a copy if it through torrents, not sure if that helps you out or not. __________________ Absence makes the heart grow fonder

05-07-2008, 03:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
ratbastid Darth Papa Location: Yonder	Well where the heck is my copy of From Hell? I know exactly where my Watchmen is... I know the scene you're talking about, I think. When the Masons haul him in to answer for himself? EDIT: Found it! Stand by. Okay, here you go: Mason: Knight of the East, you stand accused of mayhems that have placed our brotherhood in jeopardy, before your peers, masons and doctors both. Gull: I have no peers here present. Mason: What? Gull: I fancy that you understand me, sir. There is no man amongst you fit to judge the almighty Art that I have wrought. Your rituals are empty oaths you neither understand nor live by. You cite the Great Architect yet would befoul yourselves should he address you. But he does NOT address you. Not Westcott there, nor Woodford by his side, for all their mummery. Not Dr. Howard, ever in his cups. And yet he speaks to ME, HE is the balance where my deeds are weighed and judged. Not you. Mason: Sir William, this is insufferable. You do not seem to understand the seriousness of this charge. I fear you are suffering from delusions. Gull: Indeed? Fear, rather, that I'm NOT. For rather it is YOU that misconstrues our human moment, its significance. Fear rather that in me there is an older troth made finally explicit. Our Dionysiac forbears sought to become instruments of God, a natural force and thus immortal. Behold my architecture: bricks of viscera, with knife as trowel, or... Mason: Sir William? Are you fit to continue? Gull: A-Anderson? Mason: This man is ill. His testimony can be of no further benefit. Return him to his residence while we consider. Gull: W-which room is this? The white? Or the red? Last edited by ratbastid; 05-07-2008 at 03:45 PM..

05-08-2008, 10:10 AM	#4 (permalink)
Strange Famous follower of the child's crusade?	brilliant, thanks a million mate __________________ "Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are plain in the sight of Heaven. For nothing hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain without being uncovered." The Gospel of Thomas

05-08-2008, 02:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
Charlatan Getting it. Super Moderator Location: Lion City	I have my copy but I see ratbastid has beat me to it... __________________ "My hands are on fire. Hands are on fire. Ain't got no more time for all you charlatans and liars." - Old Man Luedecke

05-23-2008, 01:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
Strange Famous follower of the child's crusade?	Its funny, cos I read Watchmen and From Hell quite close together, and I liked Watchmen and thought it was well done, but From Hell made a huge impression on me and Watchmen didnt - although I know it is generally thought to be Moore's best work. I was so drawn to the conflict between Abberline and Gull: their two characters, Gull's mad genius and sheer force of personality and Abberline's grit and everydayness... I dont think I have ever read anything that made me almost jump out of my skin in the way I did when Gull suddenly materialised into a 20th century office. and when you think about Abberline: fat, averagely intelligent, over sensitive, emotionally stunted, clumsy but hard - beat Gull (for all his posturing and grand theories) twice, in both of the things that really mattered (catching him and with regards to Mary) - even if in both cases he did it somewhat by accident. The hollywood movie with Johnny Depp and Heather Graham flirting away was a very very poor imitation of the story of Fred and Emma __________________ "Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are plain in the sight of Heaven. For nothing hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain without being uncovered." The Gospel of Thomas

05-23-2008, 05:52 PM	#7 (permalink)
Troublebot Intently Rocking Location: Davey's	This just reminds me that I let my buddy borrow both From Hell and Watchmen and he has never returned them to me. Sigh. Although I dig all of From Hell, I particularly enjoy the last chapter, "The Gullcatchers" where Moore talks about researching the project and how the answer may never really be known. This, and Moore's 9/11 piece are two of my faves from him. __________________ Howard Moon: The wind is my only friend. Wind: [whistling] I hate you.