lagoonguy

I've got a dark side of me and have been trying to find the most disturbing movie ever made - as in gore/horror whatever. "Faces of Death" and other 'real' death movies aside, what is the most disturbing movie ever made?

"Men Behind the Sun" (1988) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093170/
Some say this takes the title. The effects are dated, but i can see how it can be disturbing, especially since it's Chinese made and they are more 'liberal' in what they can film. For example one scene shows a real autopsy of a real human ("Shocking!") but Hollywood would have to spend $5000 on a fake body that looks just as real, so that didn't really bother me. Then another human cadaver is used in a pressure chamber and you get to see what happens to a human body under high pressure, and that's a little disturbing. Also there's a nice long (and unnecessary) scene where they allow a live cat to be devoured by rats. So from the PETA standpoint, sure that's disturbing but still not enough to take the prize for me.

"Cannibal Holocaust" (1980) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078935/
Until i saw the movie i mention below, this did it. Very realistic/gory depiction of Cannibalism. The This movie was banned and the director arrested when it came out because they thought that real people were killed in it. Very realistic, as you're watching it you swear you're watching a snuff film. The story itself needed some help, and I guess in the 80s people liked killing animals for more shock effect because there are some more unnecessary (and long) scenes of butchering animals. But it's "good and disturbing".


BUT THEN I WATCHED "CANNIBAL" (2005) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0910548/
Let me give a disclaimer: YOU SHOULD NOT WATCH THIS MOVIE. Now, having said that, if you want to watch the most vile, disgusting, disturbing movie ever made, this is it . It's based on the real life event of the German Cannibal Armin Meiwes who solicited a willing victim over the internet to be cannibalized. Just Google his name for the story. This is NOT a horror movie, so if you're just a horror fan, steer clear. Everyone knows what will eventually happen; There's no scary killer chasing anyone with a machete.
So the movie itself is very well shot - nicely filmed, good directing. The actors are decent enough, nothing great, but it doesn't really matter - there's maybe 10 sentences of dialogue in the whole movie. It's basically 1) they meet 2) they have lots of gay sex (some reviewers stop here and bitch bitch bitch, but if you don't like it just Fast Forward it geez) 3) then the killing commences. And what happens in the movie happened in real life. I watched the beginning of the mutilation with my mouth wide open - it's disgustingly realistic. Before too long you think you're watching a 'how-to' video on 'how to skin a deer' or something. Brutally realistic.

If you want to watch some truly graphic scenes, rent this. If you're looking for a scary "Friday the 13th" horror film, stay the hell away from this - you've been warned.

I give this FIVE STARS!!!
Truly disgusting!

Frosstbyte

I think there's a MARKED difference between the most disturbing movie ever and the most gory movie ever. I have not seen any of the movies you've listed here, but I'd put Takeshi Mike's "Audition" high on any list of most disturbing movies. Now, granted, there's plenty of gore there for you to look at, but the course of the movie really twisted it up another notch. The movie goes from very plain and a little sad to mind bending and vicious so slowly and calmly it's almost unnoticeable.

The sound she makes at the end of the film encapsulates the entire movie. If you've seen it, you know what I mean. If you don't, I won't spoil the surprise for you.

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Cheaper By the Dozen.

blahblah454

lagoonguy that last one sounds pretty messed up. I read the review on IMDB, I am strangely compelled to watch it, and yet at the same time I want to run.

I think I won't ever watch it, but I would read about it.

mixedmedia

This sounds interesting...I just looked it up.

*leaves now and goes to Netflix*

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"Lord of the Flies"


I was a fat kid when I watched it.

I was terrified for weeks afterwards that people viewed me though that lens

Tully Mars

Sicko

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...but, you're right.

Funny Games
Blue Velvet
The Descent
House of Sand and Fog
Happiness

honorable mention:
Henry: Portrait of Serial Killer

To add another documentary:
The Fog of War

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Bacchanal

As far as Takeshi Miike movies go Audition is good, but for gore, I like Ichi The Killer more.

I've been wanting to see Cannibal Holocaust for a while, but haven't had the opportunity.

El Topo is a good, strange 70's flick that has some "disturbing" stuff in it, but maybe just slightly "gore".

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sadistikdreams

Speaking of Miike, I was thuroughly disturbed by Visitor Q.

Frosstbyte

Oh sure. Ichi is without question the gorier of the two movies, but it's so stylized that it's much more difficult to connect with emotionally. I had a lot of "ew" moments when I was watching Ichi; I didn't have a lot of "that is fucking creepy" moments, which is what I had most of the time while watching Audition. And since the title of the thread is disturbing, as opposed to gross out, I went with the latter.

Baraka_Guru

Although I'm sure I've seen something more disturbing (I'm likely repressing my memory of it), what comes to mind in terms of recent memory is the documentary The Corporation. It makes the case that the entity that we know as the corporation is, indeed, characteristic of psychopaths, as they typically display common features.

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blahblah454

I have been inspired by "cannibalism (2005)" to blast some

Bloodbath - Eaten

on my speakers, now thats a good tune to bang your head to!

jewels

Clockwork Orange

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Wes Craven's - Last House On The Left

I saw the uncut version many years ago....wish I hadn't.
I don't know if this would seem tame by todays standards.

roachboy

michael haneke: the seventh continent.

you have no idea.
you don't need gore--particularly not movie-gore--to be disturbing.
theatrical violence is not disturbing--it's dance with pyrotechnics. it's either well done or it's not.
most american horror films assume that you are stupid and need to be told how to react--pay attention to the music sometime in one of these "disturbing" gore-fests.
i don't find films that patronize me to be disturbing.
i find them irritating, generally.


i think that mi'ike's work is brilliant and audition really unsettling, but mostly because i hate hate hate needles.
but visitor q is just as curious.
he's a really interesting director.

chan-wook park's films are in some ways cooler and creepier--you can see one of his shorts and something by mi'ike side by side in "3 asian extremes"...
alot of korean horror films are more interesting to me than american equivalents because they play with the viewpoint as a way of turning the action/violence back onto the viewer---if you can't quite determine the place from which you are watching the action, there are more possibilities for implicating you in it.

"henry portrait of a serial killer" blows most of the devices that american horror films rely on, and is both very cool and creepy for it. but you have to watch henry as a game to see how it messes with you.

but none of these fucked me up quite the way seventh continent did.
dont read any plot summaries--just get the film, put it in your player and watch it.
you have no idea.

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mixedmedia

*toodled off to Netflix again*

I'm really not well versed on current American horror movies, for most of the reasons you've spelled out here...although I just never realized it in that way...but they always leave me deflated and unmoved.

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lagoonguy

Excellent, i haven't seen most of the movies mentioned, i'm putting them on my Netflix queue - along with 7th Continent and i won't read summarys like ROachboy suggested.
So going on the list: Audition, Ichi the Killer, 7th Continent, Henry Portrait of a Serial Killer, 3 Asian extremes, Funny Games, visitor Q... That should keep me busy for a while.


A lot of the others folks mention definately apply - Clockwork Orange, Happiness.

thanks all!

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Cynthetiq

Irreversible is up on my list of disturbing films. It was recommended as a disturbing film last round.

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Gummo

I love the movie.. but there's something about a little boy who's a transvestite killing cats that doesn't sit well..

.. of course that does mean less cats in the world which is always a good thing

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Yes, I've heard about this movie...

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Esoteric

I found Oldboy to be pretty disturbing.

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Yup, I came here to add Irreversible to the list. As disturbing as it is, it is equally a great work of cinematic art.

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Ha! That is the exact movie that I thought of when I read the title of this thread.

Truly, the movie that disturbs me the most is "Planet of the Apes". I have this strange fear of big monkeys. When I go to the zoo, I have to steer clear of the gorillas, or risk a panic attack.

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Xazy

Shindler's list. Movies based on truth affect me way more then anything else.

telekinetic

I watched (some of) Flower of Flesh and Blood while I was drunk at a friend's house.

This was the film investigated (repeatedly) by the FBI and others for being a real snuff film.

Yeah...I was distrubed.

NOT SAFE FOR WORK (gore) small screenshot (not for the weak-stomached):

http://www.satanspace.com/m_pictures...-and-blood.jpg

edit: ugh, now i feel sick to my stomach after GIS'ing for the screenshot

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Nikilidstrom

Much of the Guinea Pig series is pretty disturbing, including the sister movie to this one, Devil's Experiment.

Fun fact about Flower of Flesh and Blood: Charlie Sheen is the one that reported this movie to the FBI after seeing it at a party and being convinced it was a true snuff film.

RetroGunslinger

Alright, now I have placed a bid on Flower of Flesh & Blood on ebay for $5.45 (including shipping) and have Cannibal on the top of my queue on Netflix. Most of the others I've seen. I'd heard of both (and saved Flower on Netflix, but now I'm way too giddy to wait.

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Anything by Takashi Mike.
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For this very reason, I'd say Hotel Rwanda is the most disturbing movie I've ever seen, and Schindler's is probably second. I'm much more disturbed by actual events than a mindfuck just for mindfuck's sake.

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iamnormal

I thought The Lost Son was disturbing.

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Visitor Q. Without a question.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visitor_Q

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Leto

Hands down - it's The Vanishing

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096163/


No real gore. It's just a disturbing thriller from Holland.

* edit: don't make the mistake of watching the 1993 Hollywood version with Keifer in it. Or maybe you should watch that first, and then view the way supperior Dutch original.

Nikilidstrom

definitely had the most disturbing sex scene i've ever seen.

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I think Blue Velvet was most disturbing for me personally.

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ItWasMe

The most disturbing scene I watched was on the news. I was standing in front of my tv early in the morning and watched the Twin Towers fall. Ever since then, it breaks my heart when I see people hurting each other. Either physically or emotionally, it does not matter. Maybe I need to toughen back up, but I'm not sure if I want to not care again.

Back when I watced scary movies...Nightmare on Elm Street was the most disturbing. Something about pulling the bad guy out of your dreams. So I wouldn't have nightmares, I had to watch the entire thing and see the good guys stop the villain at the end. And of course, that didn't happen, now, did it?!

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mixedmedia

Personally, I don't find all these displays of extreme cruelty and violence to be disturbing as much as frivolous. That is the disturbing part. That we've relegated our propensity to be monstrously indifferent to each other as possibly entertaining. And I'm convinced that we've done this out of abject fear.

But then, I'm old.

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