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SSJTWIZTA 04-03-2008 04:47 AM

Carl Sagan: Cosmos
 
okay, this book was an excellent read and i have only one question.
could any of you tfpers recommend another book of this sort? Something on the universe, you know.

it would be greatly appreciated, for i dont find many reads that interest me.:)

Martian 04-03-2008 05:10 AM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...aleBlueDot.jpg

Carl Sagan on our pale blue dot   click to show 


Yeah, Sagan was brilliant. If you liked Cosmos, you could try reading Pale Blue Dot next. There's also the Dragons of Eden, in which he explores the nature of intelligence, and you might also enjoy some of his fiction novels (Contact is the most popular), and then there's Stephen Hawking. Personally, I find the man appalling as an individual, but as an authority on matters of cosmology nobody surpasses Dr. Hawking. A Brief History of Time is pretty accessible (although it's important to note that both it and Cosmos are twenty years out of date by this point) and you can also read some of his lectures online.

I used to have a URL for an online version of Brief History of Time, but I seem to have lost it. If I come across it again I'll throw it your way.

SSJTWIZTA 04-03-2008 05:34 AM

thanks alot. yeah i knew cosmos was pretty old, i was going to look for newer material after a bit. ive been into space since i was a wee one. ive heard sagan use the term "pale blue dot" before, but i believe it was on the television show.

ive never read anything from hawking. i might buy a book of his then give michio kaku a try.

thanks for the suggestions.

edit: pale blue dot is lookin good so far, ill probably add that one to my teensie bookshelf. okay i dont have a shelf but ill add it to the pile.

oh and a little off topic but, whats so appalling about hawking?

Martian 04-03-2008 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SSJTWIZTA
oh and a little off topic but, whats so appalling about hawking?

Notably that once he published Brief History and became famous, he left his wife and three children to marry his nurse.

EDIT for more content.

When Sagan referenced the pale blue dot, he was referring specifically to the photograph above. The circled dot is (obviously) the Earth, as seen by Voyager 1 from a distance of about 4 billion miles. I love that photograph for the same reason Sagan did; it gives an incredible sense of perspective.

I will warn you ahead of time that even a lay study of cosmology can get pretty intense. There aren't many authors who are interested in writing on the subject in such a way as to make it accessible to the layman, which basically means that once you've exhausted the few 'beginner' texts out there you either have to give up or move onto the more advanced works. This, in turn, requires you to have a working knowledge of physics (both Newtonian and quantum), astronomy, and relativity to start with. A lot of the concepts are extremely difficult to wrap your head around, not least of which is the sizes and distances involved. The above photograph was taken at a distance of 4 billion miles. Travelling at a highway speed of 75 mph (and therefore assuming you drive like I do) it would take you just shy of 6000 years to get to that point, assuming no rest stops.

That's about 1/1500th of a light year.

Our galaxy at it's widest is approximately 100 000 light years from one end to the other.

Is your mind blown yet?

SecretMethod70 04-03-2008 09:21 AM


SSJTWIZTA 04-03-2008 02:27 PM

it takes more than speaking of light years and extremely vast distances to blow my head off, martian.

hmm, death by a black hole looks alright, but not anything i would but. i shall see if the local library has it. (doubt it though, ill probably have to request it)

SecretMethod70 04-03-2008 03:17 PM

You might also like his other book, Origins

Hain 04-03-2008 03:19 PM

Loved the series too. I have that on VHS somewhere, and was tempted to buy the remastered DVDs (looks at credit card).

Brief History of Time - Hawking
Universe in a Nutshell - Hawking
Fabric of the Cosmos - Greene
Elegant Universe - Greene
Time Travel in Einstein's Universe - Gott

Shauk 04-03-2008 04:16 PM

pale blue dot depressed me.

Hain 04-03-2008 04:43 PM

Oh Duh

Hyperspace - Kaku

If it is by Michio Kaku it is on the reading queue.

Sagan: "Billions and billions of stars"

Ustwo 04-03-2008 05:15 PM

We need more Sagan's on TV and less John Edwards.

Leto 04-03-2008 06:21 PM

The Tao of Physics - by Fritjof Capra - very interesting read on the parallels between western physics and eastern mysticism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tao_of_Physics

SSJTWIZTA 04-03-2008 09:02 PM

yeah, i really want to read some of michio kakus stuff. hes an interesting guy.

i agree. more sagan, less edwards for sure.

tao of physics aye. hmm, i might give that a try. im not quite sure if it would appeal to me yet.

Hain 04-04-2008 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ustwo
We need more Sagan's on TV and less John Edwards.

Agreed. I have said it before and I will say it again: scientists and other great thinker of our time deserve rockstar status like that of Einstein.


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