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Taja 03-29-2009 04:22 PM

I'm absolutely THRILLED to see that Alan Tudyk is going to play Alpha!

... then again
... is anyone else having trouble imagining Wash as Alpha?? :D

m0rpheus 03-30-2009 10:34 AM

Tudyk is Alpha?? Really??? That is FUCKING AWESOME! Nope I don't have a problem seeing him as Alpha at all because it means more Tudyk written by Joss.

Cynthetiq 04-01-2009 01:12 AM

this last episode brought up the HOW she ended up signing up for the group, well based on the last few minutes of the episode.

the teaser for the following episdoe Dollhouse: The Awakening, that's got some promising twists.

guy44 04-05-2009 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taja (Post 2615978)
Spoiler: I'm absolutely THRILLED to see that Alan Tudyk is going to play Alpha!

... then again
... is anyone else having trouble imagining Wash as Alpha?? :D

Holy crap, put a spoiler tag around that! I did NOT want to know this ahead of time!

Jeez...

Halx 04-07-2009 11:21 AM

Seems like last episode tied up all the loose ends except 2... the agent and Alpha.

genuinegirly 04-07-2009 11:41 AM

I'm not so sure that it has tied up any ends. I think the "closure" that Echo felt will disappear. She will realize that it was a false scenario created to appease or confuse her.

FuglyStick 04-07-2009 12:22 PM

I can't watch that show. Dushku is an awful, awful actress.

CinnamonGirl 04-07-2009 12:29 PM

*averts eyes from all posts*

So, I work on Friday nights. I'd planned on marathon-ing what's been aired so far on Hulu. My plan was ruined when I realized that Hulu only hosts full episodes for a certain amount of time, so the first two or three eps aren't available anymore... gah!

So. 1) If I started watching now, would I be completely lost? and, 2) Are there other sites where full episodes are available (from the first ep on), that don't include downloading a special player or other software?

Cynthetiq 04-07-2009 12:39 PM

I believe that the first 4 episodes were stand alone episodes where you could watch without it really impacting the season story arc. Many tuned in expecting to see Whedon's writing only to be disappointed in it not being there yet. His touch is more apparent in later episodes.

Frosstbyte 04-07-2009 03:31 PM

I don't really know what fox's website itself requires in order to view episodes, but I'm pretty sure they have the entire season so far hosted. That'd be my recommendation.

As for your comment, fugly, I don't really know that worrying about Dushku is your best use of your time as far as this show goes. I really feel like she's nothing more than a framework for the rest of the show. I'm pretty sure that every other character is loads more interesting than she is-whether she's being herself, a doll or an agent. You might give it a try and see what you think.

Halx 04-07-2009 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuglyStick (Post 2620778)
I can't watch that show. Dushku is an awful, awful actress.

She is... I agree. She also lacks any semblance of sexuality whatsoever. I watch it for the storyline over anything.

Cynthetiq 04-07-2009 04:49 PM

i thought she was hotter when she was Faith.... now not so much.

mrklixx 04-07-2009 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halx (Post 2620914)
She is... I agree. She also lacks any semblance of sexuality whatsoever. I watch it for the storyline over anything.

Aww c'mon, that miniskirt with the thigh-high white stocking combo was pretty sexy.

Although Miracle Laurie (November/Mellie) gets my vote for hottie du jour.

Willravel 04-09-2009 11:47 AM

Dollhouse has officially been canceled. And they're not even going to play the 13th episode.

Thanks a lot, Fox.

‘Dollhouse’ Cancelled -

Cynthetiq 04-09-2009 11:49 AM

yeah i just heard this at the watercooler.... I've been John Doe'd yet again.

Willravel 04-09-2009 11:57 AM

I'm sure we'll see Whedon on Fox again in a few years with another interesting concept for a show, earning him the nickname "One-Season Whedon", which is a shame because that doesn't really rhyme.

Now all eyes move to Sarah Conner Chronicles, which has also been performing poorly.

Cynthetiq 04-09-2009 11:58 AM

and hasn't been announced to be picked up for a 3rd season. Since the movie comes out next month, it's a no brainer that it's just a vehicle to stoke the Terminator fires.

CinnamonGirl 04-09-2009 12:44 PM

Sorry, guys, it's my fault... I started watching it. Same thing happened with Drive. As soon as I started catching up on eps, sha-ZAM. Cancelled.


Kinda saw this coming, though... and I'm not sure why Whedon even considered Fox after Firefly. Sigh.

Halx 04-09-2009 12:49 PM

I'm pretty shocked.

Networks today have no patience to let a show come into its own.

Frosstbyte 04-09-2009 01:28 PM

I'm neither surprised nor too upset. Dollhouse has been interesting and fun to watch, but none of it has been in the same league as Whedon's other work, despite having higher production values. Also, hello, Fox? This show needed to come roaring out with every Whedon fanboy and then some showing up drooling over every episode and bringing all of his friends for it to get a chance. For whatever reason (and I don't believe that Fox is solely to blame), it did not. It lost casual viewers and Whedon fans alike early and often and while, for Friday night, it has not been...horrible...I think it's an expensive show that's not bringing in the returns you'd hope from a guy as high profile as Whedon is.

Not gonna lie, if I were making the decision, I'd probably give it the axe too. Dollhouse has not been what any of us expected, though it's still pretty douchey of them not to let it at least end its run.

Willravel 04-09-2009 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halx (Post 2621823)
I'm pretty shocked.

Networks today have no patience to let a show come into its own.

Can you imagine if Fox started X-Files, Simpsons or Star Trek TNG in this atmosphere?

Frosstbyte 04-09-2009 01:49 PM

Perhaps equally unreliable, but a far less alarmist view of the situation: Dollhouse Robbery? The Truth Behind the "Missing" Episode - Today's News: Our Take | TVGuide.com

guy44 04-09-2009 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willravel (Post 2621784)
Dollhouse has officially been canceled. And they're not even going to play the 13th episode.

Thanks a lot, Fox.

‘Dollhouse’ Cancelled -

Actually, Dollhouse has not been canceled. From your link:

Quote:

Update: I step away for lunch and looks like there’s controversy brewing. The Hollywood Reporter has a better write-up about the situation, stating that “All parties also insist the network has not canceled Dollhouse.” It also looks like the twelfth episode was originally meant to be the season finale, which leads to some confusion on my part:

One might argue that from Fox’s point of view, the entire season order was fulfilled because the original pilot never aired, Whedon reshot it. Otherwise the network would have paid the studio for 14 hours instead of 13. Sources also say the story in the “Omega” season finale is more or less Whedon’s original vision for how the season would end, so fans watching the show won’t feel like the storyline was cut short.

Wait, what? So what is this final un-aired episode supposed to be? It’s still not a good sign that it won’t be broadcast, and it’ll come as no surprise if it’s announced in the following days that the show won’t be picked up for another season.

Willravel 04-10-2009 07:56 AM

Jeez, I guess they jumped the gun.

We'll have to wait for confirmation from Fox.

robot_parade 04-10-2009 05:22 PM

I hope they give this show it's chance. I think it has real potential.

Reese 04-10-2009 07:22 PM

From what I understand, Fox ordered 13 episodes from Whedon. Whedon made 14 episodes. Fox didn't like the Pilot so they didn't show it. That makes 12 episodes that Fox owns. Whedon or whoever still owns the 14th episode un-aired stand-alone episode. I agree, It's a little confusing.


Anyway, The show's getting so much better. Tonight's episode was my favorite. They were right about the 5th episode being the beginning of the good stuff. If it'd been the first or second episode, the show would be much higher on ratings methinks.

guy44 04-10-2009 07:43 PM

This last episode was so good, it can only mean that Fox is going to cancel Dollhouse. Because the last time a Whedon show approached this level of good, it was summarily canned.

Dear lord I hope Fox doesn't screw this one up...

Willravel 04-10-2009 08:16 PM

S&M Barbie FTW. That alone is enough to save the series.

Frosstbyte 04-11-2009 12:21 AM

Uh, ok, wow. Took them long enough to get an episode this freaking good on the air. Good dialogue, well executed plot twists, dynamic storyline development and good acting out of those who needed to do it. Let's hope a lot of people watched it.

Willravel 04-11-2009 09:53 AM

Battlestar started with the episodes "33" and "Water", which still stand out as some of the best episodes. Why can't other series start out with their strongest stuff? We don't need 10 episodes of plot and character development to be entertained.

m0rpheus 04-16-2009 05:07 PM

S&M Barbie - DAMN!

Cynthetiq 04-16-2009 05:32 PM

wow... it was a very good episode. Count me as impressed by the herrings.

guy44 05-01-2009 07:59 PM

Whoa. Did anybody else see tonight's ep, Briar Rose? Holy crap, that was one well-done ep. I really truly cannot wait until next week's season finale.

Reese 05-03-2009 04:01 AM

OK, Correct me if I'm mistaken, but wasn't Alan Tudyk playing a techy guy in like the 5th or 6th episode. I'm pretty sure Ballard had found the camera in his apartment and took it to him to find out if he could trace the signal. Now, is that the same character that's growing the pot in his apartment in the Briar Rose episode? If not, Why doesn't Ballard recognize him?

Maybe Ballard is one of Alpha's dolls... hmm ok nevermind that, I'm just wondering if that was Alan Tudyk playin the techy guy in the midseason episode because he's not credited for the part.

damn Hulu for not having the first half of the season!

Taja 05-03-2009 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halx (Post 2620914)
She is... I agree. She also lacks any semblance of sexuality whatsoever. I watch it for the storyline over anything.

Isn't that like saying "I read Playboy for the articles"?

Watching her dance in the little white dress, in the first episode, hooked me completely. Luckily the storyline continued in a good direction, as does all of Joss's projects.

I think it's incredbily sexy that she's a completely different person in each episode, wearing a different and hot outfit each time. The little white dress, the thigh high socks and heels, S & M Barbie, and the love scene in 'Needs' - are some of my favorites.

(PS: If you happen to take a vid cap of her dancing in the white dress, you can see her bare ass.) :surprised:

mrklixx 05-03-2009 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cybermike (Post 2631645)
OK, Correct me if I'm mistaken, but wasn't Alan Tudyk playing a techy guy in like the 5th or 6th episode. I'm pretty sure Ballard had found the camera in his apartment and took it to him to find out if he could trace the signal. Now, is that the same character that's growing the pot in his apartment in the Briar Rose episode? If not, Why doesn't Ballard recognize him?

Maybe Ballard is one of Alpha's dolls... hmm ok nevermind that, I'm just wondering if that was Alan Tudyk playin the techy guy in the midseason episode because he's not credited for the part.

damn Hulu for not having the first half of the season!

The "electronics expert" in the afore mentioned episode "Needs" had the character name of "Jimmy" played by Skylar Stone.

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/382...dg4mv5bml5.jpg


They are fairly similar looking.

Cynthetiq 05-03-2009 07:09 PM

now that was an exciting episode!!!!

Reese 05-03-2009 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrklixx (Post 2631930)
The "electronics expert" in the afore mentioned episode "Needs" had the character name of "Jimmy" played by Skylar Stone.

They are fairly similar looking.

ah dang, thanks. I don't know how I'd confuse them, They don't look THAT similar :)

m0rpheus 05-07-2009 06:02 PM

OMG that was awesome. I loved that Joss gave us Spoiler: the Alan Tudyk that we know and love from Firefly and then (even with the spoiler above) gave us a kick ass not funny-guy Alan.

Cynthetiq 05-07-2009 06:23 PM

did anyone catch... Spoiler: that Amy Acker is a doll??? Whiskey? that's why her face was slashed and she wasn't killed. Think of the fact that he kept asking her all those questions too.


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