Harry Potter-Order of the Phoenix
 

wooohooo a trailer (snowy it shows Snape twice!!!) 7 months 3 weeks and 1 day to the release!!

http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/mf/frame?...9793170&type=t

OMG... I JUST CRAPPED MY PANTS... the fact that I got chills when I heard the "theme" music alone... holy crap. Shanifaye... you've got to keep all of us... or atleast me current with the countdown.

If you have read the book, then you know what is going to happen. But, this teaser trailer is awesome!

They could always cut out half of what happens in the book like they did with the 4th movie.

As long as that book was they will prob cut out 3/4's of what really happens. Im glad to see Sirius is actually IN this one

Wow...

Can't wait.

And Snape...yum.

I watched it 3 times last night and how much ya wanna bet im gonna watch it again and again and........... Snape *drool* be still my heart....PROVE IT! Such a horrid horrid man.... oh yum..... someone smack me now...

Alan Rickman is one of the sexiest men alive *sigh*

Yes he is... he had me from Robin Hood and Die Hard... Snape is the icing on the cake. The man deserves a lifetime award!

I saw the first movie, and maybe the second (because John Williams is the greatest thematic movie composer ever born). I found the movies to be moderately entertaining, though I had a distinct impression that everyone else in the movie theater was absolutely in heaven (which does tend to make a movie experience better). I've not read the books. I'm not sure this movie is something I'd enjoy. I'm very, very glad for the devoted fans, as it appears to have the ability to amaze and delight all those fans out there. Will we be enjoyign a full score by John Williams, or is he just being credited with the main theme, and the rest is being done by Nicholas Hooper?

And Alan rickman is the man.

Williams is listed on IMDB for the main title

I could watch Alan in Sense and Sensibility 24 hours a day

I've hated Snape ever since I read HBP, but the actor is spot on for him though. Siruis is one of my favourite characters and I'm glad they portray him in a better light this time. POA and GOF definately sucked IMO.

Darker they get every time... I shall delight in hating Delores Umbridge. I will remember to pack some tissues when I see the movie however... I recall the book and how it ends. Definately take a box of tissues when they release 6.

Why the hell is the video so tiny?

Ohh, dear God...yes.

Rawr.

did you tell it to play it full screen?

Oooh, this is the first trailer I've seen for OotP. Thanks Shani!!! :)

Yup, still tiny.

Is there a support group for chronic preview watchers?

www.appe.com/trailers
We meet there 2-3 times a day.

Mmmmmmmmmm Snape... and did ya see the kiss Harry laid on Cho???

Way too short. It was cool to see them flying by the houses of parliament in london.

I

cannot

WAIT!!

Anyone know when the new book is coming out?

Ah the last book. It should be about 7 months (summer) if she follows her normal schedule. But she might take extra long with this one since it's the last.

I would imagine she would take an extra long time with it. Build some excitement with the release of the movie. Plus, it really has to nail it, it has some great preceding books to live up to.

Maggie Smith isnt getting any younger! She will be 72 on December 28th
Nor is Sir Michael Gambon who turned 66 in October
Alan Rickman isnt either, he will be 61 in February

If she waits much longer they will have to recast 2 of the most popular roles. (Not 3 those of you who have read book 6 know why) I have a feeling that she will release Book 7 shortly before or after the 5th movie. To be done with it, maximize her bang for the buck and finally be able to move on. The date 7/7/7 seems very popular for speculation. 7th book, 7th month (Harry was born in july) and she has a habit of releasing books on a Saturday, the 7th happens to be one. Just a thought.

I seriously doubt she'd release the last book and the 5th movie in the same week, but I could be wrong

Im about ready to go pry it from her cold hands. I have gone from pleasant anticipation to ya best be hurrying up over there.

Ive sen all the movies so far and rather liked them but I have not red any of the books.
I do like reading however but for whatever reason I've not read this series.
My question is should I? more specifically, should I read this book before I see the movie? would it matter that I have not read the previous books?

You should read all the books from start to finish. Under normal conditions I would say watch the movie first, because youll just be distracted about all the changes they made from book to movie while watching it. But in this case the books are so good (IMO) that they should be read first without knowing any spoilers (like from seeing the movie). Again, IMO, the books are up there in the classics (i.e. will still be good in 60-100 years) but the movies are just decent. Like out of 10 I'd give the movies an 8 but the books (as a whole series) are like an 11.

I don't know when the final book is being released, but you can be darned sure it will be in time for Christmas '07.

It had better be long before that!!!!

The books are best read in order. I was less than 3 chapters into the first book (after seeing movies 1-4) and I was in complete adoration. It captures you with the details that werent in the movies. Given the fact that the books are very near 1000 pages (books 4,5,6) that the film makers have done a fabulous job cramming in what they can.

And make sure you have all the books on hand if you are going to read them, because you'll want to read the rest after you finish the first. Trust me.

I can still remember Dave playfully making fun of me because I'd made fun of him for reading "kids" books and I finally gave in and started the first one (a week before movie 3 came out) and refused to put it down or do anything before I finished it and book 2 and 3...all before we saw movie 3 opening weekend lol

The books are utterly addictive. I remember physically fighting with my 17- and 12-year old sisters over who got to read The Half Blood Prince first.

My mother won that battle.

OK, I think I will give one of them a try when I am finished with the book I am reading now.
Just curious though, My favourite series is The Wheel Of time by Robert Jordan. Every time a new book comes out I re read the whole series before I read the new book. I usually start several months in advance once I know the release date.
For anyone that has read this series, how do they compare as fas as capturing your attention? I know when they come out I can read the entire RJ book in just a couple days forsaking sleep and well being in a need to consume the book as quickly as possible. I cant handle having that knowledge right there just lying around instead of being in my head where it needs to be. Does the Hairy Potter make you feel this way?

I think my last post pretty sell sums up how well they capture my attention lol

Im on a romance kick right now, but I've already planned to reread them all before book 7 is released.

Its been harder to read the latter books in "one sitting" because they got so much longer. HBP was done in one sitting though, its been my fav of all of them

I read fairly fast but usually with work and all it takes me 2 days to finish a book. I was suprised with the sheer length of the books that I finished all 6 in 7 days.

I damn near peed myself when I saw the new trailer today!!!!!

Over 2 minutes of awe inspiring footage that makes me drool profusely and want to fast forward to opening night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Where did you see a trailer at?

Yhoo movies. Unfortunately I dont know how to post them so I am hoping Shani stumbles across it and posts it soon!

http://www.youtube.com/v/y9AmC0qmNCE
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Enjoy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14KlsramMHg

There ya be!

You guys rock for posting that!!!!!

I sooooooooo cant wait... im so excited I could just pop!

Snapes line... Discipline your mind.... it makes me tingle. :thumbsup:

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The new one sheet.

This has been described as the (warning, offensive)Spoiler: Pedophile Temptation Gauntlet.

oooooo I've got goosebumps

That is hilarious. Hahahahahaha. I'll go all the way down to Cho, thank you very much!

Ginny seems rather tall next to Harry, don't you think? Is that Loony Luna Lovegood behind Neville?

Yes I do believe that is Luna.

Cho and Luna are in the back, THAT is Ginny?? Damn she went and got fine!

Why is the Asian at the back of the bus?

Edit: Maybe I'll give Goblet of Fire a chance.

She isnt a main charachter, more of a cursory one.

May I just say: Eeeeeeee!!!

Goblet of Fire was okay, I won't see the Order of the Phoenix in the theaters, but I'll probably rent it just to figure out what's up.

I shall see it in the theater... The preview alone for this one blows the past 4 movies out of the water. Some things you just have to see on the big screen.

If I had my druthers, I'd see it opening night (and I despise going to big movies opening night). However, I'll have to wait until the day after :)

For those that may not know, WB has announced the release date has changed from July 13th to July 11th. The reports I can find mention US and Canada....Im not sure about the UK yet, all I can find is that it was changed to the 12th

The 11th?! That ruins my plans to watch each movie the weekday night before, and then after seeing goblet of fire going and seeing the midnight showing of Order of the Phoenix.

A Wednesday night release? How bizarre. I guess everyone is trying to cash in on "opening weekend" and so they're just making the weekend start earlier and earlier. Like anyone is worried about how this movie is going to do.

What does everyone think about the Harry Potter theme park? I wonder if it will be more true to the movies or the books? Wont it be awesome to see things that we have spent so much time imagining?

Lady,

I think it's a pretty cool idea! I have no qualms admitting to the geek in me that it'd be a kick-ass time. I wonder how it's going to play out, honestly. Who's the big money behind the park? I thought I read somewhere that it's Universal Studios. If that is the case, I'm sure they'll do a knockout job.

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Oh God...why?

:) I just got passes for a screener next week!!!! w00t!

but the employees don't get their book until monday after the release... oh well I was giving my copy to Xazy since Skogafoss will have a copy also.

I'll have you know, Katie Leung was born in 1987.

/me continues perving... :thumbsup:

2007-1987=legal in all parts of the US and A! I don't need to be worrying about any of the weird Emma Watson countdown websites, kthanks.

I saw this tonight.

4/10

This was exactly as expected. Boring pace, storytelling without suspense, action without intensity, and too much happening without explanation or good reason. I haven't liked a single Harry Potter movie I've seen. Granted, I haven't read any of the books; I just happen to find myself with people who want to see the movies... and they are bad movies.

Nothing is enjoyable about men waggling tiny sticks at eachother and acting like their entire power comes from them. You simply can't make that look exciting. Nothing is enjoyable about interpreting a book into a movie... these stories need to be smacked a bit harder by the Adaptation stick. They need to be made for the theater.

LS and I saw it today. I'll leave her to the major review as she has read the books and is a Harry fanatic.

Me? Let me start by saying, I haven't read the books nor have I any inclination to ever read the books. That said, I took the movie for what it was worth, escapism. It does very well.I found it pretty fast paced, so much so that, yes, the story seemed a bit hodgepodged together and the further devolopment of characters lacked.

But this series is geared for the younger set, tweens and younger. Had I been a kid I would have been lost in its glory. If you go with adult mind and expect some great movie with depth and meaning... you will be disappointed.

The special effects were good, but again if you expect super duper sci-fi cutting edge effects.... you will be disappointed. As well you should be, I truly don't think it's geared to be that either.

End result, a good escapism movie like the others. For me it was like riding a roller coaster, fast paced, exciting, a start that sets the tone and just swish on top of the hill and the rest just whisks you around so fast you miss alot of scenery but at the end, you have a good feeling and find you may want another ride.

7/10

Definitely a roller coaster-escapism feel, as Pan said. I dragged ktspktsp to see it last night (in Iceland!) and the theatre was packed with teens, which was slightly annoying. We also had the requisite Icelandic FIFTEEN MINUTE INTERMISSION smack dab in the middle of the movie... :p damn I hate that.

But anyway, I dunno, I liked it... I didn't go into it with any high expectations, but I know the story inside and out from the books, so it was a thrill (as always) just to see it all come to life in front of me. For what it is, I think they did a great job. :) And if you didn't like it... READ THE BOOKS, dammit! :D

Oh, so that's what you call a movie without any development, suspense or explanation... an *escapism* movie. I'll remember that. :p

Or you could just call it "Transformers".

Well, you have to admit that it's tolerably entertaining at least, isn't it? Or did you seriously want to walk out of the theater every minute because it was so bad? Ktspktsp found himself able to at least sit through it, even though he had no desire to see the movie in the first place (he also has not read the books, but he was there to keep me company).

I admit that if the only reason you are going to Harry Potter is because other people are taking you, and not because you read the books and know all the background and details (many of which they omit, due to time limits, in the movie), then yeah, it's going to be disappointing. I really don't know how they can make the movies better, because to do so they would have to include so much more material and the film would go to like 3 hours or something. I think the films are really only made for people who read the books, unfortunately.

I saw it in monday and posted this in the last movie watched thread:

Dolores Umbridge reminded me of Smiling Bob for some reason. I also expected her to be more "toad-like", like the Monsters, inc. lady

Saw it in matinee yesterday. Screaming children central.

It was okay. This wasn't my favorite of the books, and it wasn't my favorite of the movies (still prefer Goblet of Fire). I thought that Harry's whiny bitchiness in this episode was better motivated in the movie than it was in the book.

Good point, I liked the Half-Blood Prince (book) better, actually... Harry kept pissing me off in Order of the Phoenix (book), especially his punk-ass attitude about learning Occlumency from Snape.

Now, Snape... oh, they should've given him more lines, he delivers them better than anyone else. Great stuff.

I've seen a lot of complaints about that. We have to remember, he's a teenager. The definition of a teenager is whiny bitch.

I think the movie was very very well done. At first I was disappointed since so much was left out/altered, but then you think of the beast of a book and all that happened in it that they had to cram into a movie, and I think it was well done.

I do, however, think that without reading the book, it would be no where near as good to me. I wouldn't understand why they do certain things or what the significance of them was.

Also, Snape needed WAY more screen time.

In the book they drag on his whiny bitchiness through the whole thing. To me, the movie didn't dwell on it all TOO much. The movie touched on it, but did not go all out. I am glad they did, I didn't want to watch a teenage boy bitch and mope through the whole movie, I wanted to watch Umbridge torture the students, and of course the Department of Mysteries scene.

I think they did a great job at casting. I would've expected Umbridge to be a bit toadier, but she nailed the "hem hem" cough in my mind. Luna was even cast well, and Bellatrix was spot on (again in my mind). They definitely jumped plot points, and 5 minutes into the movie I could tell the huge gaping holes they were going to leave due to time restraints. The thing about the books is you can imagine everything that's happening, and create your own pictures; you find in the movie that something you really wanted to see on the screen gets skipped, or is done MUCH differently than you imagined it, other times the director nails it. Considering time constraints, I enjoyed the movie; if they put everything I would've like to have seen it would have easily been a 3 hour movie.

Definitely.

I actually didn't like Umbridge's "hem hem" that much. I guess I imagined it differently.
They really did a good job at making you despise her though.

Personally, I think it's the other way around, I think the movies are geared to get people to read the books.

Just with no other preconcieved notions from the books, the movies make sense to me. But I can tell there is more depth and the movies do give me a small desire to think about reading the books. Then I hear LS tell me how much they cut and what they cut and I realize, me personally, if I had read the books and then saw the movies, I'd be very disappointed.

It is what it is and the series of movies to me make sense and tell a good story on their own.

I do agree with this, Alan Rickman is a great actor, with an excellent comedic sense of timing.

I do think they need to make these films faster and release them a lot sooner. These "kids" are going to be growing fast and they may lose their passion for their parts and the last 2 movies are true garbage.

Of course, what does Rowlings care? Even with book 7, she can write... "See Harry run" "See Ron run" "Run Harry, run Ron." ... and not care. She knows it will sell millions and she has more money than the next 5 generations of her family will ever be able to spend, so what does she care how the book and movies end now.

Up to this point, the movies and books were geared to sell the next book and movie... now, all the books are out and you have to wait 3 years to finish off the movies?????? LOL yeah right.

Everyone keeps saying "....if they did x y or z it would be a 3 hour movie"

whats wrong with it being 3 hours?

This is right on.

I actually liked Harry a lot less in this movie due to him being older. Just didn't work for me.

I did think Ron was pretty good in this one though. very funny to me.

3 hour movies have less showtimes, which has less asses in seats, which have less profits.

I'd love to see them do the last two books in conjunction production ala Back to the Future 2/3.

Absolutely nothing, but as Cynth says, fewer screenings, fewer seats available per day. For the industry to make a long movie on something that's going to sell out opening weekend anyway doesn't make the most sense. All they have to do is hit the mark so people will continue to want to watch 6 and 7. You can pull off 3 hour movies in a trilogy, that just means a 9 hour sitting for the entire thing, but the whole septology (I'm sure I'm making up words now), that's looking down the pipe to an almost full day extravaganza of wand flicking.

I know die hards wouldn't have a problem with that, but the producers are looking to advocate to the non die hards to increase money in pocket.

Wait for the DVD, have a feeling that we'll see "the uncut version" with "scenes not seen in theatres" and so on.

The market has become 3 fold now for Harry, the books, the movies and the DVDs. As stated above, you need to have a movie to where they can get maximum screenings in. However, on a DVD you don't need to watch time, so you make sure there are new scenes and you can develop the plot a little more and so on. This raises the DVD price and the sales also. If you paid $30 to see the movie with your family at the cinema, then an extra $20 for the sodas, candy and food.... You'll be more than happy to shell out $39.95 for the DVD, with new scenes, etc.... plus throw on a computer game demo, your kids will love you as the can rewatch the movie over and over and then play the demo video game.... of course that's so much fun that the kids will have you go and shell out $49.99 for the game...... yadda yadda yadda.....

There is far more money to be made from the DVD sales.... and it is all about the $$$$$$$$$

Licensing... that's where the cash is. DVD is just a subset of the licensing... toys, plush, tshirts, all of it.

Yeah, I loved the new cast members, especially Bellatrix... right on, there is no one other than Helena Bonham Carter who could have done that role to a T. She was perfect for it. :)

However, MORE SNAPE, I say!! :D I suppose my wishes will come true in the Half-Blood Prince... :hyper:

My fiance and I both came out of the theater feeling mostly disappointed. It had some really cool visuals (Dumbledore's escape, Fred and George's exit) but there was SO MUCH not there and what was there felt disjointed and rushed. I feel like they put in just enough to get everyone from point A to point B without caring if it was much fun to get there. It was sometimes and it wasn't other times. Also, they spent WAY too much time with Filch nailing up edicts. We got the point the first three or four times; we don't need to see him do it ten or twelve. The characters were so slightly developed because there were so many of them and so many things going on. Luna was a shadow of herself. She seemed to just be an awkward girl who said awkward things and there really wasn't an opportunity to get close to her and appreciate her.

Essentially the problem is that on some level they're still trying to keep the HP series geared towards kids as much as possible. This was about as light a PG-13 movie as I've seen in YEARS and I think the only thing that bumped it up was the attack on Arthur Weasley, since that was pretty graphic. That's why a three hour movie is bad. For it to be as long as it was is surprising, but kids just don't have attention spans long enough to get them through three hours, even if it's HP. And, while Order is my favorite book, I found myself looking at my watch a few times throughout the movie.

I gues I'll stop rambling and say that if you want to read what I think about this movie, read Ebert's review. That's pretty much exactly how I feel about it.

Umbridge was my favorite part of the movie, hands down.

My biggest problem was Spoiler: the huge lack of emotional impact that the movie gave to Sirius Black's death. After Voldemort made his appearance, it seemed almost forgotten. The ending was entirely too upbeat.

But at least there's no way that'll happen with the next movie. Unless they're really committed to a PG-ish mood.

I enjoyed the film even if it left out some detail from the book. I was a bit upset with the previous movie in the last tri-wizard tournament task where Harry is supposed to answer a riddle from a sphinx and almost attacked by a giant spider, but I got over it. I do think this was the best of the Harry Potter films and I think the actors did a better job at expressing emotion than in the other movies.

The battle at the end was freaking insane. I was not expecting them to bust out the moves, but they did and it was entertaining!

I cannot wait for next Saturday when book 7 comes out!

Really? Everyone who read the books was actually disappointed? I thought this was by far the best movie of the series and the closest to the books. Harry and Ron seemingly got over their awkward phases (the actors not the characters) that they had in the fourth movie. Michael Gambon did a much better Dumbledore in this movie than in GoF. I think David Yates, the new director, may have told him to tone it down a bit. I was so mad at seeing Dumbledore yelling at Harry in the fourth movie. And this movie was way less rushed than the fourth.

The casting for all the new characters was spot on in my opinion. Even though she wasn't in the movie much, the actress who played Tonks was great, and I agree, Helena Bonham Carter was perfect for Bellatrix.

Sure they left some stuff out and there were some inaccuraciesm but what do you expect? And of course it's dark, like Roger Ebert said, but that is because the books are getting darker and a giant war is pretty much on the horizon. The movies can't be like the first two when Harry and Co. were just figuring out their magical abilities. They are getting hold of their abilities more and more, and I personally love the direction the movies are taking towards being darker. I just wish they would go a little further with it. The next movie should be much darker what with Spoiler: Harry nearly killing Draco and him bleeding out all over the bathroom floor.

I will totally agree with what FoolThemAll said in his spoiler tag though. That was the saddest part of the entire series for me and it was played off rather quickly.

Agreed. The book captures all the emotion so well, nearly brings me to tears every time, and the movie just played the entire thing off so quickly. I feel so much more could've been done. All in all, the movie was okay (had it's highs and lows), but I definitely prefer the books.

Saw it this morning.....LOVED it

for those of you saying there wasnt much Snape, there was a hell of a lot more than there has been in the other movies, there was certainly enough to make me happy lol

If you take it on face value and dont decry what they left it, it was really good to me. Certainly didnt seem like I was sitting there for over 2 hours

This is the first movie I haven't seen at midnight opening night, I've read every book the week it came out....


And I almost walked out of the theater at least four times (like, asked who I was with 'you guys want to stay?' 'you STILL want to stay?'

Totally pointless and unsatisfying. Half way through I remembered hating this book, too.

Someone who hadn't read the books said "Wow, this has the same basic plot as the last one but manages to be 100% less intersting"

If one wanted to be nit picky, one could say that about all of the HP movies.

ok, enough; I loved this film. The montages were actually amusing and not rushed. The plot didn't feel horribly pasted together. The acting wasn't horrible either. Umbridge was fantastic... I hated her so much. Luna was good too. Enjoyed it. Everything but the part that everyone else felt was rushed... agreed. Anyways. I loved it.

I thought the movie was fine for someone who hasnt read the books. Unfortunately, they wrote out several key actors and parts that will be needed for those who dont read the books to understand things later on. They also took actors who would have had huge parts and dwindled them down to darn near nothing. I was not pleased.

Taking into consideration that there was a 900ish page book to cram into a 2 hour and 18 minute movie, they did alright. The acting was supurb. I just wish they could have touched on a couple other points that were very important.

Spoiler: Just like Goblet... No Dobby

Amen brother Cyn! They were running around in droves if I recall correctly!

I can't say I lament the removal of house elves from the movies. They're pretty much Jar Jar v 2.0 as far as I'm concerned, both in voice and animation. Murtle is pretty brutal, too. I'm not exactly sure why they chose to do them that way; I suppose they were trying to make them cute and I'm just not the target audience.

Though, house elves in general bother me. They mostly seem to be an annoyance that takes attention away from the main plot thread.

Spoiler: Well, if you accept that it was Neville that suggested gilliweed to Potter, and that Neville shows him the room of requirement, (at least they were consistent)

I'd guess you are fine with the changes of things like Han not shooting first and FBI agents chasing ET with walkie talkies in their hands since they don't take away from the plot points, but draw different emotional character points.