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Delirious 10-31-2006 08:36 PM

Dexter on Showtime
 
This show is pretty damn good so far. Any theories on who the refrigerator truck killer is? I think it could be Dexter's sis..

Toaster126 11-01-2006 02:11 AM

That would shock me...

I've seen the first four episodes of this series. It's actually pretty entertaining.

Nikilidstrom 11-01-2006 10:35 AM

This is currently my favorite show. I really can't speculate who the killer is. The sis just doent fit in my mind, but I've been wrong before.

I really wish they weren't going to start the "sis begins to track down a killer without knowing its actually her borther" story line already. I knew it was coming since the first episode, I was just hoping it wouldn't be till next season. I would think that something like that would be more of a series finally type story arc.

fresnelly 11-02-2006 06:14 AM

I just read the book, and I know exactly who the Killer is.

No, I'm not telling. :D

Halx 11-02-2006 08:46 AM

There are ads all over the NY subways about this show. They made me curious, so I looked it up and the plot is a lot more dull than the ads made it seem. I was hoping for like a "day in the life of a sadistic serial killer" type of show - that would be great. I'm pretty bored with investigations.

Either way, I dont have showtime, so I cant watch it. Oh yeah.. and I dont watch TV.

guy44 11-04-2006 03:42 PM

I really like the show. The first two episodes are available online free at showtime's website. I've, uh, acquired the rest so far.

Plus, as a total Whedonverse geek, it's great seeing Julie Benz get a good role.

JumpinJesus 11-04-2006 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Halx
There are ads all over the NY subways about this show. They made me curious, so I looked it up and the plot is a lot more dull than the ads made it seem. I was hoping for like a "day in the life of a sadistic serial killer" type of show - that would be great. I'm pretty bored with investigations.

Either way, I dont have showtime, so I cant watch it. Oh yeah.. and I dont watch TV.

Trust me, the plot is outstanding. It's not your typical investigation-type show. And there are 2 serial killers: the main character who we know is a serial killer, and another serial killer who is "toying" (watchers will get the pun) with him.

What I like most about this show is how they have pushed the viewers into an area where we are rooting for a serial killer and hoping he doesn't get caught.

Devoid 11-04-2006 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JumpinJesus
What I like most about this show is how they have pushed the viewers into an area where we are rooting for a serial killer and hoping he doesn't get caught.

Agreed. I think my favorite moment in the series to this point was where he was trying to figure out how to reciprocate for the BJ he got (with her in the Lara Croft costume, dayum) and tried to go down on her during Terms of Endearment. I was almost crying, it was so funny.

I also like where they're taking the plot in tomorrow night's episode and shining some light on what he did in the last ep, with the immigration peeps. Personally, I think the Ice Truck Killer is some type of doctor or surgeon. Seems odd that they kept Tucci alive for days without some kind of medical background. Guess we'll find out soon!! :)

Toaster126 11-06-2006 08:03 AM

Yeah, the Terms of Endearment episode was great! He said he was going to pick up something "light" from the movie store, and due to the fact that he's emotionally damaged/stunted and whatnot, he didn't know that Terms of Endearment didn't fit the bill.

If you have Comcast in demand, you can view the first 5 (at least) episodes in the InDemand for Showtime.

Nikilidstrom 11-06-2006 04:06 PM

I also have to give credit to whoever finally taught James Remar (Dexter's adoptive father) how to act. That guy has been the butt of so many movie jokes (Mortal Combat 2, The Quest, Robo Warriors, 2 Fast 2 Furious to name a few) that it is nice to see him finally get to demonstrate some of the acting chops he's honed over his long career (The Warriors in the late 70s was first I saw him in), and show some emotion and not be so wooden.

Devoid 11-13-2006 09:25 PM

Anybody else still watching? I fucking knew Perry wasn't the guy!!!! These next few episodes should be interesting, especially with sis's new boyfriend, the ex-con dad back in the picture, and some of the previews with Dexter at a therapist. :lol:

Delirious 11-14-2006 04:35 PM

Unfortunately I read the book so I now know who it is!

I loved the part at the end where Dexter smiles when perry is like "who the fuck are you" Also when he was comforting Rita with "there there" trying to fake some emotion.

Nikilidstrom 11-18-2006 09:39 AM

Its gotta be Deb's new doctor boyfriend. With all his metaphorical talk of pieces and being hole, the things he said about how his mom died, as well as his medical background in prostetics, he's definitely my pick.

JumpinJesus 11-18-2006 09:03 PM

I think the doctor would be too easy. This show is too well written to be that obvious. I think the doctor is a red herring. Of course, they may realize that mostly intelligent people will watch the show and would assume the doctor is a red herring, thus making the red herring a red herring and the doctor really is the ice truck killer.

Yep.

Spoiler: I can't fucking believe it! I tried to be a genius and overthought this. The fucking doctor! Still, it's going to be good when they meet next week, now that we know.

Devoid 12-01-2006 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JumpinJesus
Spoiler: I can't fucking believe it! I tried to be a genius and overthought this. The fucking doctor! Still, it's going to be good when they meet next week, now that we know.

Yeah, last week's episode was incredible, with the meeting. I absolutely love how it was all 'arranged'. Hard to believe it, but this show just keeps getting better and better....

JumpinJesus 12-03-2006 10:07 PM

I've been enjoying this show so much that it's hard to believe there are only 2 episodes left until this season is over. I must say that I'm perplexed as to how the ice truck killer knows so much about Dexter's past.

What do you think Dexter will do when he learns who the ice truck killer is?

intecel 12-04-2006 11:01 PM

How far into the book is this season so far? Can this go on for another season or two, or is this coming to an end?

I think this show is great.

intecel 11-25-2007 11:10 PM

I can't believe nobody's been talking about this season of Dexter!

Am I the only one still watching it? Did anyone see tonight's episode? I've can honestly say I've never cheered on a serial killer (real or fake) until tonight :)

SecretMethod70 11-25-2007 11:21 PM

I've been watching it all the way through...haven't seen tonight's episode yet though. Looking forward to finding out how the season wraps up!

Nikilidstrom 11-26-2007 08:34 PM

I'm definitely still watching it. Its my second favorite show behind House. I still havent seen the new episode, but its waiting for me ONDemand. I'm pretty antsy to see what the catch is with all the previews making it look like Dexter was finally caught by the FBI.

Crack 11-28-2007 06:32 AM

All I can say is that his "sponsor" is one of the hottest women I have ever seen. Period.

EDIT: Holy fucking-jumping-dancing-singing-crap! It's Billy Murray's daughter...

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaime_Murray

SecretMethod70 11-28-2007 10:48 AM

See, I totally disagree....her body is nice, but her face is just....weird. Mostly the mouth/jaw.

Also, Billy Murray is not Bill Murray. ;)

Crack 11-28-2007 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by SecretMethod70
See, I totally disagree....her body is nice, but her face is just....weird. Mostly the mouth/jaw.

Also, Billy Murray is not Bill Murray. ;)

I think the mouth/jaw thing is fine, it adds a uniqueness that I like.

And damn, I really thought it was Bill Murry from SNL fame. Ah well, I didn't read any further before I posted that. :p

span2 12-05-2007 10:15 PM

Episode 11 and the finale have been leaked onto Bittorrent:

www.zeropaid.com/news/9130/'Dexter'+Episode+11+and+Finale+Leaked+to+BitTorrent!

intecel 12-06-2007 12:36 PM

Thanks for the heads up. I picked up the last 2 on irc last night... Wow...

ironman 12-07-2007 12:23 PM

OMFG!!!!
This is officialy the best series ever!!! I love how Dexter'r psyche was deconstructed along this season and how the characters evolved. I can't wait for the 3rd season. I'll come back when the finale airs so we can talk without spoiling it to everybody else.
I swear to God that if I had the chance to pay for Showtime, I'd do it, but well, I bet they not even know where Guatemala is...

intecel 12-07-2007 05:49 PM

This really isn't a huge spoiler, but I don't want people getting the wrong message, or think they learned something from what I write....

Spoiler: The only problem is that unfortunately Showtime likes to only air shows for 2 seasons, with very few exceptions... Dead Like Me was my favorite show ever on showtime until Dexter, and it was canned after 2...

I think they ended the season/series very well, and as much as I'd like to see another season, I think they ended it nicely.

SecretMethod70 12-07-2007 10:01 PM

Dexter's Nov 18 episode had higher ratings than any other show in Showtime history. Spoiler: I don't think it's going anywhere.

I'll save discussion of the ending for after it airs, but I figured I'd comment on the recent episode where Dexter makes a kill with Doakes in the room. I think that episode, and especially that scene, is one of the most significant the show has had so far. While he may be a serial killer, Dexter is such a fun character that it's easy for the viewer to forget how screwed up he really is. This episode really served to remind us of that and bring us back into the "reality" of Dexter.

First, there's the fact that every time Dexter speaks to Doakes, he sounds totally unhinged. Already, there is more time spent showing Dexter acting a little crazy in this episode than there has been in any past episode I think. Also, there's the matter of Dexter's ritual. Part of his ritual is that he talks to his victims before each kill and reminds them of the terrible things they've done. Not only does it fit into the story, but it also serves a storytelling purpose to remind us how terrible these people are...make it easier for us to accept that the character we like is about to murder them and chop them up into little pieces. Except... he didn't do that this time. All we got, as the audience, is "he's on the run for murder." We never even see the victim conscious, which only emphasizes the brutality of Dexter's killing. And then, of course, there is Doakes' reaction afterwards, which really drives the point home.

I really enjoyed how they did that episode, and I think they did an excellent job of reminding the audience...we're cheering for a brutal serial killer.

Great stuff!

sprocket 01-14-2008 09:26 PM

Just got finished watching season 1 and 2... I think I can say this has been my favorite show of all time... im not usually one to get roped into a tv series.

I'm also not one to usually go out and buy the books that a movie or show was based on, but I had to buy the Dexter books.

One of the few instances I think, where the actual show surpassed and exceeded the book, by leaps and bounds. I havnt cracked open the second book yet though.

The one thing about this show.. is the dialog is great, a lot of it pulled directly from the book, and it seems almost everyone on the cast is a good actor/actress. So many TV series suffer from half assed poor acting, and shitty dialog. None of that in Dexter... and I love the music. They found the perfect score to fit the character and set the tone of the show.

Willravel 01-14-2008 09:27 PM

Yeah, you have to watch both seasons back to back with less than 5 hours of sleep. It drives you crazy. You find yourself following Harry's rules. It's good times.

Still, the books are amazing.

sprocket 01-14-2008 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SecretMethod70
Dexter's Nov 18 episode had higher ratings than any other show in Showtime history.

From wikipedia:

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Showtime President Robert Greenblatt has confirmed a third season is planned with the season two finale ending with an ad confirming that Dexter will return for a third season in 2008.
They will also be running Dexter on CBS, to use for content because of the writer strike. Not sure how good the shows gonna be edited though.. that will take a lot of the edge out of it.

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Originally Posted by willravel
Yeah, you have to watch both seasons back to back with less than 5 hours of sleep. It drives you crazy. You find yourself following Harry's rules. It's good times.

Still, the books are amazing.

Yea, the book is great... its leaves you with a lot more of Dexter's inner monologue, which I like. But I couldnt help but feel it was only half the story, after watching the show:)... they obviously fleshed out the fairly short story a hell of a lot to fill a complete season of hour long episodes.

guy44 01-14-2008 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by willravel
Still, the books are amazing.

The first two books are. I turned my brother onto the series (and the books) and he wouldn't tell me anything about the third one until I read it. Once I finished it, we immediately agreed that it was a complete disappointment. I just hope Lindsay returns to form in the fourth installment.

Willravel 01-14-2008 10:02 PM

Agreed.

Tully Mars 01-19-2008 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by sprocket
They will also be running Dexter on CBS, to use for content because of the writer strike. Not sure how good the shows gonna be edited though.. that will take a lot of the edge out of it.

I agree this almost never works well. I know the writers strike has them scrambling but shows like Dexter don't work well with their entire edge removed. It's like watching edited porn.

JumpinJesus 01-19-2008 07:56 AM

I'm fairly certain that Showtime will use this as an opportunity to draw in new subscribers with something like, "See the unedited Dexter by ordering Showtime today..." after each episode.

But yeah, CBS will have to essentially castrate this show before they can air it.

sprocket 01-21-2008 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by guy44
The first two books are. I turned my brother onto the series (and the books) and he wouldn't tell me anything about the third one until I read it. Once I finished it, we immediately agreed that it was a complete disappointment. I just hope Lindsay returns to form in the fourth installment.


I have to agree on this one... Just finished the third book, and found myself having to struggle through it.

Esoteric 12-01-2008 11:04 AM

Don't mean to necro an old thread, but has anyone been keeping up with this season so far? Holy shit it's incredible, and last nights episode was amazing.

telekinetic 12-01-2008 11:28 AM

I watched all of season 1 on Netflix Watch Instantly (with season two also being playable), and went to watch Season 2 to see they'd been yanked! :( Haven't found any explanation anywhere on the intertubes as to why something that was available as recently as last month is no longer. Ah well...I'll probably just have to torrent them now.

Esoteric 12-01-2008 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by twistedmosaic (Post 2567126)
I watched all of season 1 on Netflix Watch Instantly (with season two also being playable), and went to watch Season 2 to see they'd been yanked! :( Haven't found any explanation anywhere on the intertubes as to why something that was available as recently as last month is no longer. Ah well...I'll probably just have to torrent them now.

Try TVShack.net or Sidereel.com ;]

Willravel 12-01-2008 11:58 AM

Jimmy Smits being added to the cast was absolutely brilliant. His character has added a new dimension to Dexter. He's a different kind of villain, something different from Ice Truck, Doakes, or even that insane brit Lila. Dex never trusted any of them. When he Spoiler: flipped out last week after realizing that it was cow blood on the shirt I feel like the Dexter character really evolved: he felt something.

Does anyone else thing that the series is about Spoiler: Dexter becoming human? It feels like he is less and less a victim of his sickness and more and more is becoming normal. He started out alone and a complete slave to the hunger, but then found sexuality with Rita. He learned to appreciate her and her children. He learned about his biological mother, and her relationship with Harry. He learned how deeply he appreciated Camilla, who was a surrogate mother for him in many ways. And now he actually felt anger towards Miguel Prado... that's a big deal. And now marriage and a child? I wonder if the end of the series will be Dexter departing from the influence of the dark passenger for good. It would be an interesting way to take it.

Esoteric 12-01-2008 12:01 PM

Spoiler: Well, Season 4 and 5 have already been confirmed so I'm wondering if Dexter will help Rita's kids with their dark urges like in the books. I called it at the beginning of the Season that Dexter was going to be forced to kill Miguel. Can't believe what a snake Miguel is though, I honestly thought Dexter was going to have a real friend.

Italianman137 12-08-2008 05:08 PM

criminal minds and burn notice are better

noodle 12-08-2008 05:14 PM

can i tell you how happy last night's episode made me?!
it's just about damn time.

guy44 12-09-2008 06:30 PM

This season sure took its time - I mean, does anyone out there care one tiny bit about Deb and Anton and Quinn and Angel's girlfriend and almost any other B-plot? - but damn the last couple of episodes have been great. I think that one of my absolute favorite things in a movie or tv show is a great, slow-burn cat-and-mouse game between two intelligent characters. (Which is why The Shield, which was pretty much seven seasons of one man's cat-and-mousecapades, is one of my all-time favorite shows.) And man-oh-man this is a good one. I am so looking forward to the season finale.

Esoteric 12-11-2008 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by noodle (Post 2570458)
can i tell you how happy last night's episode made me?!
it's just about damn time.

About time indeed. It's a shame this Sunday is the season finale. :[ Season 4 will air the same time next year though!

Esoteric 12-15-2008 08:11 AM

What a great season finale. It's going to be a long wait until Fall 09.

Halx 12-15-2008 08:25 AM

I've been following this show religiously and I gotta say that I really enjoyed how the season ended. It took a while to get going. I didn't even realize Miguel was the bad guy until it became obvious. I knew the skinner was too flimsy of a bad guy to be the focal point of the season. I am concerned about a few loose ends:

- The ring and Miguel's legacy
- That IA chick's investigation
- The implication that Ramon did the dirty work
- Why haven't I seen Ramon's wife naked yet?

Esoteric 12-15-2008 09:29 AM

Lol, have they showed Ramon's wife in previous episodes? I don't think I've ever seen her before. She's hot indeed though, so is Rita.

Good points on some of the loose ends. No idea what's going to happen with that IA chick since she just seemed to vanish from the story. It'll be interesting to see what happens in Season 4, I can't fucking wait!

SecretMethod70 12-15-2008 12:46 PM

I think it's safe to assume that Dexter will dispose of the ring, and Miguel's legacy will be that of a hero.
The IA chick had her investigation shut down because Deb didn't help her.
What's wrong with Ramon doing the dirty work? It took Dexter to bring out the darkness in Miguel.
Ramon's wife is good, but I'd rather see Miguel's.

Oh, and yes, it was a great season finale.

RetroGunslinger 12-15-2008 03:04 PM

I thought it was a shit season finale. Sure, Dex killing the Skinner was a pretty awesome, but otherwise it all seemed pretty tame, even with the twist with Rita. I dunno, I just don't like the whole marriage thing. It irks me.

Xerxys 12-16-2008 03:38 PM

I watched this series from episode 1 through last week and I am craving more, I am surprised it didnt go the heroes route.... but it's starting to, somehow...........

Heres a trivial question for all of you, .... Who do you think the bay harbour butcher would be?? Despite we all know, I would never suspect the plot to be who we know it is

sorry word play for the folks who havent watched season 2.

I would think it's masuka for some reason. I dont know, I'm an asshole like that. Who do you think would be the bay harbour biutcher in the series if you were in florida Right now??

span2 01-10-2009 11:30 PM

Dexter and Deb got married...incestuous!
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NEW YORK (AP) — They play brother and sister on "Dexter." Now in real life, Michael C. Hall and Jennifer Carpenter are husband and wife. Hall's spokesman, Craig Bankey, said on Friday that the couple eloped in California on New Year's Eve. They'll walk the red carpet together at the Golden Globe Awards on Sunday — the first time publicly acknowledging their relationship.

Hall, 37, and Carpenter, 29, just finished the third season of "Dexter," the Showtime series in which Hall plays the murderous title character. They've been quietly dating for about a year and a half.

At their wedding, Carpenter's grandfather's wedding band was attached to her bouquet of white roses.

Jetée 05-28-2009 07:32 AM

'Dexter' exclusive: John Lithgow nabs killer role
 
Dexter has found its next Big Bad.

http://popwatch.ew.com/photos/uncate...rlithgow_l.jpg

Sources confirm to me exclusively that John Lithgow is joining the season 4 cast as Walter Simmons, an unassuming suburbanite who has been living a dual life as one of America’s most prolific and deadliest serial killers. When the mad man (who is dubbed the "Trinity Killer" because he always kills in threes) relocates to Miami, Dexter becomes obsessed (or inspired?) by his efficient killing methods and ability to evade capture for almost three decades. (This is the new antagonist role exec producer Sara Colleton teased back in April.)

Dexter’s fourth season premieres on Sept. 27. Oh, almost forgot, bonus casting scoop: Keith Carradine is reprising his role as Deb’s daddy-figure ex, F.B.I. Special Agent Frank Lundy, for multiple episodes.



-- from | Dexter, News | Ausiello Files | EW.com

JumpinJesus 05-28-2009 07:24 PM

John Lithgow? Very interesting.

I like the idea of bringing back Lundy as well. He was a terrific character for exposing the huge daddy complex with Deb.

Esoteric 05-30-2009 05:11 AM

Interesting indeed. I'm going to freeze myself until Sept. 27th I think.

Halanna 06-02-2009 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Jetée (Post 2641712)
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Sources confirm to me exclusively that John Lithgow is joining the season 4 cast as Walter Simmons, an unassuming suburbanite who has been living a dual life as one of America’s most prolific and deadliest serial killers. When the mad man (who is dubbed the "Trinity Killer" because he always kills in threes) relocates to Miami, Dexter becomes obsessed (or inspired?) by his efficient killing methods and ability to evade capture for almost three decades.

Nice news! My husband and I really enjoy this series. I do like John Lithgow but it would have been cool to see Christopher Walken in this role!

highdro69 07-24-2009 04:36 PM

New trailer for the new season. /girlsqueal!!

Showtime: Dexter at Comic-Con

Willravel 07-24-2009 04:59 PM

Sweet! I cant' wait to see Lithgow's dark side.

ratbastid 07-24-2009 06:04 PM

I'm posting on this thread carefully NOT looking at anything on the last page....

We recently started from the top on Dexter. AMAZING show. I had no idea how Season 2 was going to top Season 1... And then it did!

I'm about to launch into S3. I probably won't be back in this thread until I'm done with that, because I refuse to be spoiled, but for sure I'll come post some "OMGOMGOMG" after watching the S3 finale!

Xerxys 07-24-2009 06:40 PM

Ahhh, the finale of season 3 has been released then, I also never read anything in spoiler tags unless I don;t care for the film/movie. I will be sure to, ... watch it in the next two weekends when I pussy up, cave and purchase a TV.

Jetée 07-25-2009 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ratbastid (Post 2675427)
I'm posting on this thread carefully NOT looking at anything on the last page....

We recently started from the top on Dexter. AMAZING show. I had no idea how Season 2 was going to top Season 1... And then it did!

I'm about to launch into S3. I probably won't be back in this thread until I'm done with that, because I refuse to be spoiled, but for sure I'll come post some "OMGOMGOMG" after watching the S3 finale!

I'm think about doing the same thing this weekend for the series Mad Men. I don't think I've seen more than two minutes of the entire production up 'til now, but seeing as it is only two seasons, (I believe) I should be able to catch myself up in time for the new season.

And to bring it back to Dexter... I think I need to re-watch season 1 again. It's so good.

Jetée 10-03-2009 08:01 PM

I may be a week late, but I'm watching season four's premiere at this very moment. So for those that are like me and need that innocous reminder, Dexter is now once again our weekly fix.

Whoa, Lithgow's ass! (sorry about that)

Here is the summation for the intriguing and darkly-comedic first episode of this season's Dexter: "Living the Dream"

Six months after the season finale, Dexter is now living with three kids and
a wife in a new home. Along with his new son Harrison, the complexities of
being a suburban father of three is making it difficult for Dexter to
concentrate on his work. His lack of sleep leads him to let a murderer walk by
bringing the wrong documents to court and causes him to get into a car
crash. Now retired Agent Lundy has returned to finally capture the mythical
"Trinity Killer" who has arrived in Miami.

Halx 10-03-2009 08:09 PM

As much as I liked the first 3 seasons, I did not like the opening to the 4th. It was sloppy, and I'm not talking about Dexter's work. Come on, you can't find a single hair in a bathtub that had a man thrashing around in it? All the new storylines jumping out of nowhere. Gah.

Willravel 10-03-2009 09:05 PM

I'd imagine if you've been killing consistently for decades, you probably have a nearly superhuman ability to clean up after yourself. Dexter's only been killing since he started with his father's nurse/Tasha Yar and he's got it mastered. He clearly has evolved since his earlier murders, where he missed the blood that soaked through before.

I'm really, really glad to see (now retired) Agent Lundy back. Last time he was around, things were a lot different for Dex. I wonder if they'll form a bit of a friendship in their search for the trinity killer.

Esoteric 10-04-2009 05:29 AM

Squeeee. Episode 2 tonight! Unfortunately I won't be able to watch it until tomorrow. :[

ratbastid 10-04-2009 05:49 AM

We're current now so I can play on this thread now!

I LOVE Lundy. And I love how things just got complicated for Deb.

Geez, is Deb going to uncover Dexter's past? His mother's file is the next one on her stack to go through! How ironic would it be for Deb to be the one who brings Dexter down?

And... now he's wrecked his car with a body in the back. That's no good.

Esoteric 10-04-2009 05:53 AM

Something tells me that despite how sloppy Dexter was with his kill, he wasn't that sloppy.

jewels 10-04-2009 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Esoteric (Post 2712053)
Something tells me that despite how sloppy Dexter was with his kill, he wasn't that sloppy.

:lol: But of course . . . I can almost see sis in on the secrecy. At least it's been considered, for sure.

I don't get home from work until amost midnight, so I am so grateful for the invention of the DVR. Uh huh.

ratbastid 10-04-2009 06:30 AM

Falling asleep at the wheel with bags of evidence in your car is pretty sloppy. I think the suggestion was that he left the scene clean, though.

Can you imagine what the police department would do if they discovered they busted the wrong department employee as the Bay Harbor Butcher? Jesus. LaGuerta would lose her shit entirely.

Esoteric 10-05-2009 11:35 AM

Episode 2 was good, but I'm already tired of LaGuerta and Angel's love connection. It's boring.

jewels 10-06-2009 03:33 AM

Yeah, but you know you're being set up for something reeeeally good.

Halx 10-06-2009 04:13 AM

Ep 2 was better than Ep 1, except for, as mentioned, the extra romance. I mean, seriously, who could see anything worth loving in Angel? He's just a pouty, pitiful man with a speech impediment. Oh, and this "tired" bit is tired already. Just give them man a good night's sleep and let's start this over again, on the right foot.

tcp 10-07-2009 11:02 AM

LaGuerta is no prize herself. I kind of like the tired part, because it means Dexter will make mistakes which is the only thing making the plot engaging. So far Lundy and the new serial killer haven't done much to stir things up.

ratbastid 10-07-2009 11:11 AM

LaGuerta needs to keep it in her pants. Seriously. Has she ever worked with anyone she hasn't fucked? Aside from Vince, I mean? She was angling for Dex in season 1, remember?

I have a lot of faith in the writers on this show. I'm willing to sit out a few clunker episodes because I trust we're headed somewhere. So far, season 4 isn't really selling it, though.

Now: Episode one, I looked at Lithgow, and all I could see was 3rd Rock from the Sun. Episode two... I'm back to how it used to be with that guy. Edgy, dangerous, complex... It was what enabled him to be such a complete ham on 3rd Rock. I forgot for a while there that the guy's a fucking actor, not a sitcom comedian. I remember now. He gave me chills in Ep 2.

SecretMethod70 10-07-2009 11:31 AM

Huh. I guess I'm the only one who has enjoyed the first couple episodes. I'm ambivalent regarding LaGuerta/Batista, but I trust there will be a payoff down the road. Dexter being tired... that's just realistic. People have a hard enough time getting a good night's sleep when they're working a job and have a newborn. Add moonlighting as a serial killer into that, I think the plot totally fits. As for Lithgow: I already love him and his character. I'm eager to see where his creepiness goes.

ratbastid 10-07-2009 12:05 PM

No, yeah, I like the "too many plates" thing happening in this season. And I'm a HUGE fan of Retired Special Agent Lundy.

jewels 10-08-2009 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ratbastid (Post 2713434)
No, yeah, I like the "too many plates" thing happening in this season. And I'm a HUGE fan of Retired Special Agent Lundy.

Ditto that. Is it just me, or has Keith Carradine matured oh so well, becoming a really fine actor who gets hotter/sexier with every appearance? :love:

Jetée 10-16-2009 06:46 AM

What's with the angle that Quinn is now a "dirty cop"? What happened in-between the season premiere, where he was pissed beyond words at Dexter for botching the murder trial, and now in episode 3, where he's trying to butter Dex up with club-level seats to a football game? What did Dexter witness Quinn do, and when (what episode)?

Also, if the only reason the love interest for Quinn was brought about to get her topless, then it was all worth it. She's so fine.
The reporter, I mean. She reminds me of a less-quirksome Regina Spektor.

Esoteric 10-16-2009 07:00 AM

Spoiler: In episode 2 Quinn takes some money from the safe at a murder victim's house.

Jetée 10-16-2009 07:19 AM

Hm, I must have missed that part. Or it is now minisculely-vague in my rapidly-declining stage of memory loss.

Thanks, Esoteric. The cliffhanger (sort of) to the last episode was very good. I wonder what Dex is going to say to explain it away?

SecretMethod70 10-16-2009 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Jetée (Post 2717474)
Hm, I must have missed that part. Or it is now minisculely-vague in my rapidly-declining stage of memory loss.

Thanks, Esoteric. The cliffhanger (sort of) to the last episode was very good. I wonder what Dex is going to say to explain it away?

Pretty hard to miss... might want to stock up on those Alzheimer's meds ;P

I'm definitely curious to see how Dexter gets himself out of this one with Rita. Will he accept some degree of guilt, like in season 2, or will he profess his innocence?

Bigwahzoo 10-20-2009 05:08 PM

Does it feel that Dexter is completely out of character this season? He used to be cool, calm, and cautious while this season he is emotional and reckless.

SecretMethod70 10-20-2009 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigwahzoo (Post 2719301)
Does it feel that Dexter is completely out of character this season? He used to be cool, calm, and cautious while this season he is emotional and reckless.

Not really. Every season has been about him facing a new challenge, and discovering something new about himself in the process. He's much more cool, calm, and cautious this season than he was in season 2.

shoegirl 10-20-2009 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigwahzoo (Post 2719301)
Does it feel that Dexter is completely out of character this season? He used to be cool, calm, and cautious while this season he is emotional and reckless.

Completely out of control? Nah, I don't think so. Mostly, he's a new father and he's really tired. Something tells me he'll get it together by the end of the season.

Halx 10-22-2009 05:37 PM

I like that Dexter is developing emotions. Sorta.

As for the last episode.. NICE way to end it on the cliffhanger.

Halx 11-03-2009 11:47 AM

Guess I'm the only one left watching this show. I have to say that I was giving this season the benefit of the doubt, but the writing kept deteriorating. That is until last episode... suddenly the writers must have found new inspiration because I was really pleased. Did anyone else notice this?

Willravel 11-03-2009 12:30 PM

Yeah, it was nice to get back to Dexter's former glory. The relationship between Trinity and Dex is better related to Dexter adapting to family life than previous seasons' obvious parallel story lines.

SecretMethod70 11-03-2009 07:22 PM

You're not the only one watching, I just don't have much to say typically besides "another good episode!" after watching :p Plus, ono and I haven't seen the latest episode yet.

Jetée 11-03-2009 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SecretMethod70 (Post 2724680)
You're not the only one watching, I just don't have much to say typically besides "another good episode!" after watching :p Plus, ono and I haven't seen the latest episode yet.

notch me onto that list, too.

I was going to watch the latest ep. tonight, but it's getting kinda late, and I'm more into catching up on podcasts, and then afterwards, probably some Zzz...'s

Esoteric 11-08-2009 09:25 AM

I'm still watching, and can't wait for the next episode.

Jetée 11-08-2009 09:56 AM

Thoughts on Trinity's past trigger, and what has now become his ritual of three?

In my mind, I think it was a suicide of angst, followed by a suicide of grief, and then a vengeful murder on what seemed to be the failing party.
Then again, it could have been a murder in the home, a suicide to escape the reality, and then the true murderer back then was murdered by the boy, who has now become this season's murderer, aka Trinity.

I don't think I'm spoiling anything because unless you've watched the episode, I doubt this makes any sense.

Either way, I think Arthur wacked his father.

kutulu 11-09-2009 02:56 PM

Trinity isn't going to be the mentor that Dexter was looking for and it is too bad. Whatever drives him to kill isn't free will like Dexter. Trinity is looney toons while Dexter is just a sociopath that has found a way to keep himself from harming innocent people (barring an occasional mistake or two).

Willravel 11-09-2009 03:16 PM

Trinity isn't Dexter, and I suspect Dexter's known that all along. Just like, as the smuggling and murdering couple laid on their final beds, covered in plastic wrap, Dexter was able to glean some enlightenment about the nature of coupling, Dexter is using the opportunity with Trinity to help him adapt and grow. Trinity isn't in control, he's not got the same kind of dark passenger, but he's made the family disguise/connection work for a very long time. Dexter can't really rely on Harry to learn how to be a father because Harry was more of an obsessed coach than anything else. In order to father normal, well adjusted kids, Dex needs to assimilate this serial-killing sociopath meets paternal provider and teacher skill-set.

Ultimately, these slowly developing skills are building Dexter into a better and more complete human being. Trinity will, in the end, have contributed to Dexter possibly overcoming the dark passenger. It's really fascinating.

Halx 11-10-2009 05:21 AM

I totally called the twist in the last episode.

kutulu 11-10-2009 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Willravel (Post 2726914)
Trinity isn't Dexter, and I suspect Dexter's known that all along. Just like, as the smuggling and murdering couple laid on their final beds, covered in plastic wrap, Dexter was able to glean some enlightenment about the nature of coupling, Dexter is using the opportunity with Trinity to help him adapt and grow. Trinity isn't in control, he's not got the same kind of dark passenger, but he's made the family disguise/connection work for a very long time. Dexter can't really rely on Harry to learn how to be a father because Harry was more of an obsessed coach than anything else. In order to father normal, well adjusted kids, Dex needs to assimilate this serial-killing sociopath meets paternal provider and teacher skill-set.

Ultimately, these slowly developing skills are building Dexter into a better and more complete human being. Trinity will, in the end, have contributed to Dexter possibly overcoming the dark passenger. It's really fascinating.

Dexter Morgan is probably the most interesting character on TV right now.

Jetée 11-13-2009 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Halx (Post 2727106)
I totally called the twist in the last episode.

I was wondering what it was once you mentioned it (hadn't watched it 'til midweek), but I kinda got clued into it about 15-20 min. before the episode was through.

I kinda half-knew what was going to unravel at the end, but I must've forgot about it until the last scene. It just seemed to me that Dexter wasn't doing his usual diligent research for 'candidates', and that he was getting overworked and tired. I'm already hazy on who his last victim was, (was it the hard-ass cop chick?) and how much evidence he compiled against them, but extending from then onto this latest episode, I just got the vibe that Dexter was going to mess up bad because of it.

ratbastid 11-14-2009 05:50 AM

It was a pretty well-telegraphed twist. I think I knew from when Spoiler: the assistant locked up the shop and the photographer was nowhere to be seen.

That was a rough kill scene, though, because on some level we knew it wasn't right. They didn't play it different from many others--the vic screaming his innocence to the end is something we've seen before. But somehow we KNEW. Or I did, anyway.

This "Quinn suspecting Dexter" subplot is unneccesary. Didn't we already do this once? This "Batista and LaGuerta" subplot is actually annoying now.

I'd like them to stop messing up Deb, too. Just a couple episode without massive trauma for Deb is too much to ask?

Halx 11-14-2009 07:06 AM

Yes, stop picking on Deb, primarily because her acting ability can't handle it.

I don't like how they keep killing the interesting subplots (literally) - I didn't like Lundy, but since they brought him back, I would have foreseen him actually suspecting Dexter. And Deb NEEDED to keep researching those CI's. Damn.. and yet they still hold on to the crappy subplots.

ratbastid 11-14-2009 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Halx (Post 2728657)
Yes, stop picking on Deb, primarily because her acting ability can't handle it.

Ooh, well I disagree with you there. I think she's one-tone as a function of the writing, not the acting. Her meltdown in the parking lot earlier this season was exceptionally well done.

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Originally Posted by Halx
I don't like how they keep killing the interesting subplots (literally) - I didn't like Lundy, but since they brought him back, I would have foreseen him actually suspecting Dexter. And Deb NEEDED to keep researching those CI's. Damn.. and yet they still hold on to the crappy subplots.

No argument there, though. It's way more interesting when Dexter's under threat. Watching him try to figure out domestic life is kind of cute, but doesn't have anything like the Ice Truck kind of chill and threat to it.

Halx 11-17-2009 08:25 PM

All I gotta say is Spoiler: the person who shot Deb better not be that stupid fucking reporter.


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