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SecretMethod70 · 03-10-2007, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Halx

Until someone digs up some expose about how this movie was supposed to be a slick political thriller with undertones of personal faith and ultimately a love story...

I'm looking forward to seeing this movie. It should be very visually entertaining. That said, I have to point out that "drawing a line in the sand for democracy" is a part of the summary description and, well, Sparta is anything but a good example of democratic ideals, let alone Sparta as seen in 300

ratbastid · 03-11-2007, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jth

I was worried all the slo-mo would piss me off but I really thought it was perfect. I like how it seemed like watching a live graphic novel instead of a movie based on one.

Yes. Most of the "slo mo" battle moments are literal visual quotes from the graphic novel.

Cynthetiq · 03-11-2007, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Halx

Changed it for you

Oh, and I have another word for those complaining about the realism: No.

Seriously, I feel like I shouldn't have to defend a movie that was adapted from a glorified, highly stylized COMIC BOOK. Apparently people didn't get that part. Besides, aren't we all a bit tired of real bad blood makeup? The 2D blood splatters are way cool in light of what could be some corny blood sprays. The exaggeration is what some people call "style" ... and style is usually accepted in something those same people call "art."

So we didn't like the unrealistic creatures and characters? Spoiler: Well let's not forget that this story was told as an account from someone who was personally picked by the King for his storytelling ability. How do you think he's going to describe elephants, rhinos and other foreign things (people who look different?) that he'd never seen before?

I know everyone's allowed to think what they want, but that doesn't mean they aren't being short-sighted for thinking it. Until someone digs up some expose about how this movie was supposed to be a slick political thriller with undertones of personal faith and ultimately a love story... please don't complain about the lack thereof. If you just paid $11 dollars thinking it was gonna be any more than what it was, you need to think more before spending your next buck.

Of course, if you don't like it for what it really IS, then.. ok. Fine.

(Oh, and a little sub note... I know none of this criticism has taken place in this thread... I was just so taken aback by the opinions I've seen posted on the internet by viewers and critics. Don't you wish some people would just shut up and be entertained?)

I don't recall where I saw it... but someone was saying something about 300 having a political vibe.

quick google search gave me:

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When a Feb. 22 report on Wired.com carried a brief mention of the question about Mr. Bush’s proper parallel in the film, Web commentators in the United States began to lock on its supposed political vibe. Yet attempts by both the left and the right to appropriate the lessons of Thermopylae clearly predated the movie.

Mr. Bush has been compared to Xerxes at least since his “axis of evil” speech in the wake of 9/11, for instance, while the Spartan cry “Molon labe,” or “Come and take them,” has long been a rallying call for supporters of the right to bear arms.

Halx · 03-11-2007, 07:58 AM

Yeah, its inevitable that people are going to make some connection between the movie and today's situation. That doesn't mean the director and writer ever meant it to be so.

ratbastid · 03-11-2007, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Halx

Yeah, its inevitable that people are going to make some connection between the movie and today's situation. That doesn't mean the director and writer ever meant it to be so.

Okay, but it's naive to release that film at the current time in history and not expect it to have resonances with the current situation. Especially the Gorgo-before-the-council speech, I was having a hard time not hearing that as right-wing posturing.

Cynthetiq · 03-11-2007, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ratbastid

Okay, but it's naive to release that film at the current time in history and not expect it to have resonances with the current situation. Especially the Gorgo-before-the-council speech, I was having a hard time not hearing that as right-wing posturing.

All films, books, art, all mediums reflect current situations in some capacity. Always. People just aren't smart enough to see the parallels on the surface, how long did it take people to realize the Star Trek Cold War similarities? I know that I was too young to understand it in the 70s, but in the 80s it became apparent to me.

Halx · 03-11-2007, 08:24 AM

Maybe my brain was turned off, but I didn't draw that connection. Hell, the Spartans can be seen as both "Iraqi insurgents" and "The Bush Administration" if you want to really break it down. On one front, they are holding off a horde of enemies, unrelenting on their own turf, and on the other front they are begging for reinforcements.

Destrox · 03-11-2007, 08:45 AM

Whatever happened to going to movies, enjoying the fact that it was made for entertainment and not getting all political?

Its a 2 hour block where you are given the option to get away from real world issues and just relax your brain.

Maveric · 03-11-2007, 10:01 AM

Gerard Butler talks about the costumes of "300" and training for his role as King Leonidas in the movie "300" in this interview video from the 2006 Comic Con.

http://movies.about.com/library/weekly/bl300butler1.htm

-Mav

Astrocloud · 03-11-2007, 10:24 AM

Comparing ancient Spartans to anything in modern society other than the Nazis is quite pointless. The reason that the Nazis work well for a comparison is because they modelled parts of their military training on the Spartan society. (Not to mention the outright persecution/destruction of the Helites/Jews).

For one thing: a Spatan would be appalled by the inclusion of Women (and the exclusion of homosexuals) from our modern military.

That's just one thing. I encourage everyone to learn more about the Spartans and their militaristic society.

Ch'i · 03-11-2007, 10:35 AM

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Mr. Bush has been compared to Xerxes at least since his “axis of evil” speech in the wake of 9/11, for instance, while the Spartan cry “Molon labe,” or “Come and take them,” has long been a rallying call for supporters of the right to bear arms.

Morons!

LoganSnake · 03-11-2007, 03:27 PM

I went to see it yesterday and I must say it was really good. The effects and visuals were amazing and the action scenes kicked large amounts of ass. It's a good action movie, but that's it. I would like it even more if it had a slightly more involving story. Yeah, shoot me.

I liked Sin City better though. I've seen that movie five times by now. I don't think I can watch 300 more than two or three. I'm going to see it again with my family (my grandpa will go nuts for the battle scenes) next week.

blahblah454 · 03-11-2007, 04:11 PM

I thought the movie was simply amazing. I went with my girlfriend and my brother and we all agreed that it was one of the best movies that we had seen in a long time.

Ch'i · 03-11-2007, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by LoganSnake

I went to see it yesterday and I must say it was really good. The effects and visuals were amazing and the action scenes kicked large amounts of ass. It's a good action movie, but that's it. I would like it even more if it had a slightly more involving story. Yeah, shoot me.

Bang.

spindles · 03-11-2007, 09:55 PM

its times like this I wish Oz wasn't so far behind - this doesn't open here until April 9, so I've got a few weeks to wait to see it. Bloody small economies

Xell101 · 03-12-2007, 03:50 AM

I feel like a crazy person but I think the movie had too much story and character development. I mean, they really nailed the concept of it as being an embellishment of the narrator but damnit, the tale is about a suicide mission by 300 one dimensional men. The queen and some jerkass were superfluous to the main draw of the film, which was a boat load of glorious hyperstylized violence. Also, I don't know if the film was pro-bush or anti-bush, all I know is it had a strong anti-xerxes agenda. Anything beyond this and I can only reason people are making things up.

JustJess · 03-12-2007, 05:18 AM

I dunno - our theater was filled with people who cheered when SPOILER:Spoiler: the queen killed that mofo in council. It was involving enough... but not too much, for me. The action was freakin' awesome, honest to gods - I loved the style, the effects, the blood - not even that gory, really... And crap on a stick - the Spartans were a joy to behold in the battle - just gloriously beautifully hot. Yep. Mrowl.

LoganSnake · 03-12-2007, 05:42 AM

I thought this review from aintitcool.com was pretty...informative about the movie.

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I just saw a movie that’ll give your eyes boners, make your balls scream and make you poop DVD copies of THE TRANSPORTER. It’s called 300. I don’t know what the title has to do with the movie, but they could’ve called it KITTENS MAKING CANDLES and it’d still rule.

It’s about these 300 Greek dudes who stomp the sugar-coated **** out of like a million other dudes. I have a feeling that a lot of high school sports coaches are going to show this film to their teams before they play. Also, gay dudes and divorced women are going to use screen captures for computer wallpaper.

The movie takes place about a million years ago, and it’s sort of like a prequel to SIN CITY. Except way less guns and cars but twice as much skull splitting. If you watch this movie and go into a Taco Bell, and say to the cashier, “I need some extra sauce packets” guess what? You’re getting twenty sauce packets because your face will punch him in the brain.

I can’t spoil the plot because THANK GOD THERE ISN’T ONE. Just ass kicking that kicks ass that, while said ass is getting kicked, is kicking yet more ass that’s hitting someone’s balls with a hammer made of ice but the ice is frozen whiskey.

TWO COOL THINGS ABOUT THE MOVIE AND ONE THING I DIDN’T LIKE:

COOL THING ONE:
HEAVY METAL DURING BATTLE SCENES

Who gives a **** if the music isn’t historically correct? LORD OF THE RINGS could’ve used some Journey. This movie has that chu-CHUNG kind of metal that you hear in your head when your shift supervisor at Wetzel’s Pretzel is telling you that you’ll have to stay for clean up and you wish you had a sock filled with quarters in your hand.

COOL THING TWO:
FOES, MINI-BOSSES AND A BIG BOSS

Basically, the Greek dudes are fighting these Persian dudes, but the director, who must have a dick made of three machine guns, does it all like a video game. The Greeks fight every death metal video from the last ten years. There’s wave after wave of giants, freaks, ninjas, mutants, wizards, and a hunchback who looks like he’s got Rosie O’Donnell on his back.

Would I have been happy if Dom DeLuise from HISTORY OF THE WORLD, PART I had shown up? Maybe, but this movie more than makes up for that glaring oversight.

NOT SO GOOD THING:
DUDE NUDITY (“DUDE-ITY”)

These are Greek times, when there were a lot of naked women around. And there are some naked women in this film, but almost every naked woman scene has a muscular dude giving the screen an ass picnic. Dude-ity is something directors put in their movies so people will think they’re serious, I guess, and not just throwing in naked hotties.

Any directors reading this – IT’S OKAY TO JUST THROW IN NAKED HOTTIES.

Can’t someone make a movie about naked Amazons and call it PAUSE BUTTON?

My final analysis is 300 the most ass-ruling movie I’ve seen this year, and will probably be the King of 2007 unless someone makes a movie where a pair of sentient boobs fights a werewolf.

Destrox · 03-12-2007, 05:51 AM

Hah I love it, that review is great.

fresnelly · 03-12-2007, 05:56 AM

Ah yes, now I remember why I don't bother with aintitcool.com anymore.

LoganSnake · 03-12-2007, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by fresnelly

Ah yes, now I remember why I don't bother with aintitcool.com anymore.

You don't like something about the review?

Kadath · 03-12-2007, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by LoganSnake

You don't like something about the review?

It's aggressively stupid?

fresnelly · 03-12-2007, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Kadath

It's aggressively stupid?

Bingo. It's a funny read and all, but it's a prime example of why I don't get my reviews there anymore. I just can't relate. I don't demand that movies provide me with an orgiastic sensory rush like most of the posters there.

Call me a stick in the mud, but I won't be seeing 300 because I'm too jaded to sit through a balletic war movie.

LoganSnake · 03-12-2007, 10:50 AM

Sense of humor deficiency?

If you take that review seriously, you probably need as much help as those who came into 300 and expected Shindler's List story.

It's just a guy who is really excited about and loved the movie.

The only place for movie reviews is rottentomatoes.com

SecretMethod70 · 03-12-2007, 02:10 PM

Lasereth · 03-12-2007, 02:15 PM

Ha ha ha ha ha I haven't even seen the movie and I laughed out loud at that comic.

LoganSnake · 03-12-2007, 03:49 PM

Great comic. I follow every Ctrl+Alt+Del update.

Halx · 03-12-2007, 04:04 PM

I think I have a good sense of humor and that aint it cool review was absolutely moronic.

So first we have a twit with a thesaurus assualting us with words even Hunter S Thompson wouldn't use, then we have a dipshit with as much charisma as a jagged shard of glass trying to get us all riled up by making the movie sound worse than a Steven Seagal flick.

Who wants to post the next "great" review?

cadre · 03-12-2007, 05:18 PM

I didn't read any reviews before seeing this movie because I figured that they'd be either really against it or really for it, which doesn't make for a good review. Apparently I was right but I found the aintitcool.com review to be amusing (though maybe not a good review techinically).

Anywho, I'm with JustJess. As a female, I loved the movie. As a war-type movie person, I also loved it. I think it's worth seeing at least once even if you don't think you'll like it because it has alot to offer. It looks like it did stick to the comic pretty well, especially in alot of the scenes. It looks like they took it directly from the drawings (which adds to the style very nicely).

I watched it and didn't have any thoughts of the current political situation, my boyfriend thought it was slightly homoerotic but that's about it. Let's remember that the comic is from the late 90's so I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it's not supposed to be political. I think it's in the same realm as Troy and Gladiator as far as story goes (Gladiator was better though) but it's also got this great eyecatching style that is just awesome.

edit: This link shows screenshots side by side with the original comic. It shows what I was saying about the scenes being taken directly from the comic. http://www.solaceincinema.com/2006/1...en-comparison/

NoSoup · 03-12-2007, 06:42 PM

I just got back from it, and I thought it was phenomonal....

We learn several things throughout this movie:

1) You cannot have too much slow motion battling
2) Watching 300 nearly naked dudes lounging around is totally fine, as long as you know that they are about to dispatch 10,000 of the enemy
3) Spartans are hiliarious - "We will fight in the Shade"
4) In addition to not showing pain, fear, or surrendering, they have also given up all laws of physics. Throwing a spear accurately at 1/2 mile isn't even really a feat.

Willravel · 03-12-2007, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by NoSoup

1) You cannot have too much slow motion battling

Damn straight. That's in the Bible AND the Constitution. Look it up.

serlindsipity · 03-12-2007, 07:55 PM

Im agreeing with NoSoup and willravel, the movement and timing produced greate imagery.

Good Job Frank Miller and crew

Val_1 · 03-13-2007, 09:20 AM

I did not like 300. I'm a sci fi/action film/history/comic lover. I would have thought it was right up my alley. But, as it is, I think it's worthy of an MST3K treatment.

It wasn't entirely bad. A lot of the battle scenes were good; very good, in fact. But so many parts of the movie were so laughably bad that it really killed the enjoyment. The highly stylized look of the movie worked both for it and against it in areas.

I really wouldn't recommend it to anyone. The overwhelmingly positive response to this film is just baffling me.

Willravel · 03-13-2007, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Val_1

I did not like 300. I'm a sci fi/action film/history/comic lover. I would have thought it was right up my alley. But, as it is, I think it's worthy of an MST3K treatment.

It wasn't entirely bad. A lot of the battle scenes were good; very good, in fact. But so many parts of the movie were so laughably bad that it really killed the enjoyment. The highly stylized look of the movie worked both for it and against it in areas.

I really wouldn't recommend it to anyone. The overwhelmingly positive response to this film is just baffling me.

This sentiment reminds me of how I felt about 'A History of Violence". Apparently, everyone but me and my little bro absolutely loved the movie. I thought it was one of the worst pieces of film I've ever seen. I'm still confused as to how people enjoy it. To each their own, I suppose.

YaWhateva · 03-13-2007, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by NoSoup

3) Spartans are hiliarious - "We will fight in the Shade"

I think that was actually a quote from Dienekes. "So much the better, we shall fight in the shade." It's even the Greek 20th Armored Division's motto. A lot of the quotes from the movie are from what is thought to be actual quotes people said at that time. Even on Leonidas' Monument, there is a thing that says, "Come and take them."

Also, I loved this movie so much! I loved the Battle of Thermopylae as a kid. The one thing I didnt like though was Spoiler: the large monster/executioner with the giant blade hands Besides that, the movie was fantastic.

Frosstbyte · 03-13-2007, 12:34 PM

I really really really wanted to love this movie like I loved Sin City.

I didn't and couldn't. The images of battle were beautiful, really beautiful and the oracle's dance was incredibly effective and powerful. The depiction of the Persian excess-Xerxes' moving temple, for example-were breathtaking.

The rest of the movie was blah. The entire "meanwhile in New Jersey" storyline back in Sparta was both terrible and completely pointless, to say nothing of being nothing even in the remote general vicinity of historically accurate. Also, for all the lofty talk of the phalanx, as far as I could tell they used it for all of five minutes. And then they didn't use it and were slaughtered. Now, I realize that watching 1 or 2 guys run around alone slaughtering hoards of bad guys is probably for the average viewer much more interesting than watching a phalanx work. However, the entire reason this battle is so famous is because of the fact that they used the damn thing to the full extent of its lethal potential. The movie paid modest lip service to that fact, but didn't show me all I wanted to see.

I enjoyed it, I'm glad I saw it, my fiance and I will probably own it, but it's not going on my favorites list.

cadre · 03-13-2007, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by YaWhateva

The one thing I didnt like though was Spoiler: the large monster/executioner with the giant blade hands Besides that, the movie was fantastic.

Oh yeah, I agree with you. That just bugged me.

n0nsensical · 03-13-2007, 11:12 PM

This movie is Hollywood schlock of the worst kind, just terrible. No plot at all, its just like killing, sex, killing killing, sex, sex, killing. This would have been just as effective as a 20 minute short except not nearly as tedious and boring. The writing was awful, horribly clichéd and predictable, and the whole thing was ridiculously over dramatic. It ripped off several movies that were actually good, like Gladiator, Crouching Tiger, Hero, even The Matrix and Lord of the Rings, except they forgot to copy any of the good parts and were left with all the crap. I would have had more fun burning a 10 dollar bill or reading a thousand page history about the Greek-Persian wars. This is the film equivalent of the brainless button-mashing violent videogame with pretty graphics. Movies like this are why I don't go to movies.

Destrox · 03-14-2007, 04:00 AM

Damn... you do know this movie was not meant to be a history piece, that it was written to be an exact book-movie transition from a COMIC BOOK.

These things never were meant to be taken that serious.

Comic books, just like movies, in general (excluding educational films) are merely made for entertainment.

I'd suggest for you to re-watch it after brushing that chip off your shoulder, but it seems firmly in place.

NoSoup · 03-14-2007, 04:13 AM

Agreed - I don't think the film was supposed to pay homage to any historical facts at all, it was simply the movie version of the comic book.

To be fair, though, I certianly didn't expect to see any historically accurate scenes when I went to see the movie - just very pretty CG and a ton of slow motion fights. I got what I paid for

03-11-2007, 07:58 AM	#44 (permalink)
Halx Please touch this. Owner/Admin Location: Manhattan	Yeah, its inevitable that people are going to make some connection between the movie and today's situation. That doesn't mean the director and writer ever meant it to be so. __________________ You have found this post informative. -The Administrator [Don't Feed The Animals]

03-11-2007, 08:24 AM	#47 (permalink)
Halx Please touch this. Owner/Admin Location: Manhattan	Maybe my brain was turned off, but I didn't draw that connection. Hell, the Spartans can be seen as both "Iraqi insurgents" and "The Bush Administration" if you want to really break it down. On one front, they are holding off a horde of enemies, unrelenting on their own turf, and on the other front they are begging for reinforcements. __________________ You have found this post informative. -The Administrator [Don't Feed The Animals]

03-11-2007, 08:45 AM	#48 (permalink)
Destrox Metal and Rock 4 Life Location: Phoenix	Whatever happened to going to movies, enjoying the fact that it was made for entertainment and not getting all political? Its a 2 hour block where you are given the option to get away from real world issues and just relax your brain. __________________ You bore me.... next.

03-11-2007, 10:01 AM	#49 (permalink)
Maveric Insane Location: Houston, Texas	Gerard Butler talks about the costumes of "300" and training for his role as King Leonidas in the movie "300" in this interview video from the 2006 Comic Con. http://movies.about.com/library/weekly/bl300butler1.htm -Mav Last edited by Maveric; 03-11-2007 at 10:04 AM..

03-11-2007, 03:27 PM	#52 (permalink)
LoganSnake We work alone Location: Cake Town	I went to see it yesterday and I must say it was really good. The effects and visuals were amazing and the action scenes kicked large amounts of ass. It's a good action movie, but that's it. I would like it even more if it had a slightly more involving story. Yeah, shoot me. I liked Sin City better though. I've seen that movie five times by now. I don't think I can watch 300 more than two or three. I'm going to see it again with my family (my grandpa will go nuts for the battle scenes) next week. __________________ Maturity is knowing you were an idiot in the past. Wisdom is knowing that you'll be an idiot in the future. Common sense is knowing that you should try not to be an idiot now. - J. Jacques

03-11-2007, 10:24 AM	#50 (permalink)
Astrocloud Apocalypse Nerd	Comparing ancient Spartans to anything in modern society other than the Nazis is quite pointless. The reason that the Nazis work well for a comparison is because they modelled parts of their military training on the Spartan society. (Not to mention the outright persecution/destruction of the Helites/Jews). For one thing: a Spatan would be appalled by the inclusion of Women (and the exclusion of homosexuals) from our modern military. That's just one thing. I encourage everyone to learn more about the Spartans and their militaristic society.

03-11-2007, 04:11 PM	#53 (permalink)
blahblah454 Let's put a smile on that face Location: On the road...	I thought the movie was simply amazing. I went with my girlfriend and my brother and we all agreed that it was one of the best movies that we had seen in a long time.

03-11-2007, 09:55 PM	#55 (permalink)
spindles Mine is an evil laugh Location: Sydney, Australia	its times like this I wish Oz wasn't so far behind - this doesn't open here until April 9, so I've got a few weeks to wait to see it. Bloody small economies __________________ who hid my keyboard's PANIC button?

03-12-2007, 03:50 AM	#56 (permalink)
Xell101 Junkie	I feel like a crazy person but I think the movie had too much story and character development. I mean, they really nailed the concept of it as being an embellishment of the narrator but damnit, the tale is about a suicide mission by 300 one dimensional men. The queen and some jerkass were superfluous to the main draw of the film, which was a boat load of glorious hyperstylized violence. Also, I don't know if the film was pro-bush or anti-bush, all I know is it had a strong anti-xerxes agenda. Anything beyond this and I can only reason people are making things up.

03-12-2007, 05:18 AM	#57 (permalink)
JustJess Unencapsulated Location: Kittyville	I dunno - our theater was filled with people who cheered when SPOILER:Spoiler: the queen killed that mofo in council. It was involving enough... but not too much, for me. The action was freakin' awesome, honest to gods - I loved the style, the effects, the blood - not even that gory, really... And crap on a stick - the Spartans were a joy to behold in the battle - just gloriously beautifully hot. Yep. Mrowl. __________________ My heart knows me better than I know myself, so I'm gonna let it do all the talkin'.

03-12-2007, 05:51 AM	#59 (permalink)
Destrox Metal and Rock 4 Life Location: Phoenix	Hah I love it, that review is great. __________________ You bore me.... next.

03-12-2007, 05:56 AM	#60 (permalink)
fresnelly Functionally Appropriate Location: Toronto	Ah yes, now I remember why I don't bother with aintitcool.com anymore. __________________ Building an artificial intelligence that appreciates Mozart is easy. Building an A.I. that appreciates a theme restaurant is the real challenge - Kit Roebuck - Nine Planets Without Intelligent Life

03-12-2007, 10:50 AM	#64 (permalink)
LoganSnake We work alone Location: Cake Town	Sense of humor deficiency? If you take that review seriously, you probably need as much help as those who came into 300 and expected Shindler's List story. It's just a guy who is really excited about and loved the movie. The only place for movie reviews is rottentomatoes.com __________________ Maturity is knowing you were an idiot in the past. Wisdom is knowing that you'll be an idiot in the future. Common sense is knowing that you should try not to be an idiot now. - J. Jacques

03-12-2007, 02:10 PM	#65 (permalink)
SecretMethod70 Human Administrator Location: Chicago	__________________ Le temps détruit tout "Musicians are the carriers and communicators of spirit in the most immediate sense." - Kurt Elling

03-12-2007, 02:15 PM	#66 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	Ha ha ha ha ha I haven't even seen the movie and I laughed out loud at that comic. __________________ "A Darwinian attacks his theory, seeking to find flaws. An ID believer defends his theory, seeking to conceal flaws." -Roger Ebert

03-12-2007, 03:49 PM	#67 (permalink)
LoganSnake We work alone Location: Cake Town	Great comic. I follow every Ctrl+Alt+Del update. __________________ Maturity is knowing you were an idiot in the past. Wisdom is knowing that you'll be an idiot in the future. Common sense is knowing that you should try not to be an idiot now. - J. Jacques

03-12-2007, 04:04 PM	#68 (permalink)
Halx Please touch this. Owner/Admin Location: Manhattan	I think I have a good sense of humor and that aint it cool review was absolutely moronic. So first we have a twit with a thesaurus assualting us with words even Hunter S Thompson wouldn't use, then we have a dipshit with as much charisma as a jagged shard of glass trying to get us all riled up by making the movie sound worse than a Steven Seagal flick. Who wants to post the next "great" review? __________________ You have found this post informative. -The Administrator [Don't Feed The Animals]

03-12-2007, 05:18 PM	#69 (permalink)
cadre The Worst Influence Location: Arizona	I didn't read any reviews before seeing this movie because I figured that they'd be either really against it or really for it, which doesn't make for a good review. Apparently I was right but I found the aintitcool.com review to be amusing (though maybe not a good review techinically). Anywho, I'm with JustJess. As a female, I loved the movie. As a war-type movie person, I also loved it. I think it's worth seeing at least once even if you don't think you'll like it because it has alot to offer. It looks like it did stick to the comic pretty well, especially in alot of the scenes. It looks like they took it directly from the drawings (which adds to the style very nicely). I watched it and didn't have any thoughts of the current political situation, my boyfriend thought it was slightly homoerotic but that's about it. Let's remember that the comic is from the late 90's so I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it's not supposed to be political. I think it's in the same realm as Troy and Gladiator as far as story goes (Gladiator was better though) but it's also got this great eyecatching style that is just awesome. edit: This link shows screenshots side by side with the original comic. It shows what I was saying about the scenes being taken directly from the comic. http://www.solaceincinema.com/2006/1...en-comparison/ __________________ My life is one of those 'you had to be there' jokes. Last edited by cadre; 03-12-2007 at 05:21 PM..

03-12-2007, 06:42 PM	#70 (permalink)
NoSoup Non-Rookie Location: Green Bay, WI	I just got back from it, and I thought it was phenomonal.... We learn several things throughout this movie: 1) You cannot have too much slow motion battling 2) Watching 300 nearly naked dudes lounging around is totally fine, as long as you know that they are about to dispatch 10,000 of the enemy 3) Spartans are hiliarious - "We will fight in the Shade" 4) In addition to not showing pain, fear, or surrendering, they have also given up all laws of physics. Throwing a spear accurately at 1/2 mile isn't even really a feat. __________________ I have an aura of reliability and good judgement. Just in case you were wondering...

03-12-2007, 07:55 PM	#72 (permalink)
serlindsipity Psycho Location: Boulder Baby!	Im agreeing with NoSoup and willravel, the movement and timing produced greate imagery. Good Job Frank Miller and crew __________________ My third eye is my camera's lens.

03-13-2007, 09:20 AM	#73 (permalink)
Val_1 Addict Location: In a State of Denial	I did not like 300. I'm a sci fi/action film/history/comic lover. I would have thought it was right up my alley. But, as it is, I think it's worthy of an MST3K treatment. It wasn't entirely bad. A lot of the battle scenes were good; very good, in fact. But so many parts of the movie were so laughably bad that it really killed the enjoyment. The highly stylized look of the movie worked both for it and against it in areas. I really wouldn't recommend it to anyone. The overwhelmingly positive response to this film is just baffling me. __________________ I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day. -Frank Sinatra

03-13-2007, 12:34 PM	#76 (permalink)
Frosstbyte Winter is Coming Location: The North	I really really really wanted to love this movie like I loved Sin City. I didn't and couldn't. The images of battle were beautiful, really beautiful and the oracle's dance was incredibly effective and powerful. The depiction of the Persian excess-Xerxes' moving temple, for example-were breathtaking. The rest of the movie was blah. The entire "meanwhile in New Jersey" storyline back in Sparta was both terrible and completely pointless, to say nothing of being nothing even in the remote general vicinity of historically accurate. Also, for all the lofty talk of the phalanx, as far as I could tell they used it for all of five minutes. And then they didn't use it and were slaughtered. Now, I realize that watching 1 or 2 guys run around alone slaughtering hoards of bad guys is probably for the average viewer much more interesting than watching a phalanx work. However, the entire reason this battle is so famous is because of the fact that they used the damn thing to the full extent of its lethal potential. The movie paid modest lip service to that fact, but didn't show me all I wanted to see. I enjoyed it, I'm glad I saw it, my fiance and I will probably own it, but it's not going on my favorites list.

03-13-2007, 11:12 PM	#78 (permalink)
n0nsensical Junkie Location: San Francisco	This movie is Hollywood schlock of the worst kind, just terrible. No plot at all, its just like killing, sex, killing killing, sex, sex, killing. This would have been just as effective as a 20 minute short except not nearly as tedious and boring. The writing was awful, horribly clichéd and predictable, and the whole thing was ridiculously over dramatic. It ripped off several movies that were actually good, like Gladiator, Crouching Tiger, Hero, even The Matrix and Lord of the Rings, except they forgot to copy any of the good parts and were left with all the crap. I would have had more fun burning a 10 dollar bill or reading a thousand page history about the Greek-Persian wars. This is the film equivalent of the brainless button-mashing violent videogame with pretty graphics. Movies like this are why I don't go to movies. Last edited by n0nsensical; 03-13-2007 at 11:25 PM..

03-14-2007, 04:00 AM	#79 (permalink)
Destrox Metal and Rock 4 Life Location: Phoenix	Damn... you do know this movie was not meant to be a history piece, that it was written to be an exact book-movie transition from a COMIC BOOK. These things never were meant to be taken that serious. Comic books, just like movies, in general (excluding educational films) are merely made for entertainment. I'd suggest for you to re-watch it after brushing that chip off your shoulder, but it seems firmly in place. __________________ You bore me.... next.

03-14-2007, 04:13 AM	#80 (permalink)
NoSoup Non-Rookie Location: Green Bay, WI	Agreed - I don't think the film was supposed to pay homage to any historical facts at all, it was simply the movie version of the comic book. To be fair, though, I certianly didn't expect to see any historically accurate scenes when I went to see the movie - just very pretty CG and a ton of slow motion fights. I got what I paid for __________________ I have an aura of reliability and good judgement. Just in case you were wondering...