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Old 02-08-2007, 01:15 PM   #161 (permalink)
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All around, what a great show! Ben has a daughter, Sawyer beat the dude up, then he dies... I don't have any predictions yet though. Waiting to see what unfolds.
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Old 02-08-2007, 02:45 PM   #162 (permalink)
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Ben has a daughter
Okay, but Ben's daughter is also Rousseau's daughter.

Did Ben come to the Island with Rousseau?

Did Ben adopt Alex when they took her from Rousseau?
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Old 02-08-2007, 06:54 PM   #163 (permalink)
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Okay, but Ben's daughter is also Rousseau's daughter.

Did Ben come to the Island with Rousseau?

Did Ben adopt Alex when they took her from Rousseau?
That was the biggest nagging question I had too. Presumably Alex wouldn't know who her mother is, so it's plausible that Ben just told her he was her father and that her mother died somehow. To what end... put it up on the to-be-answered board I guess.

I also have a feeling that we'll be able to trust Juliette a little bit more, since she's just as trapped as Jack.

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Old 02-08-2007, 09:27 PM   #164 (permalink)
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I think Ben is her dad in the sense that he raised her but he isn't her biological dad. Didn't Rousseae say she killed all the other team including her husband? In that case either Rousseau is a liar, is crazy, or Ben isn't the dad.

One thing that I was wondering is who was the picture of the 26 year old womb that looked like it was 70. At first I thought Rousseau but then realized that Julliet said she has only been on the island for 3 years making it unlikely that it would be Rousseau since her daughter must be at least 16. So that means it might be one of the other others.

Also why does the cooperation want a fertility doctor on the island so much.
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Old 02-09-2007, 05:53 AM   #165 (permalink)
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Also why does the cooperation want a fertility doctor on the island so much.
Because after Humanity's downfall, reproductive science and technology will become very important.

My $.02 based on my theory of the corp's mandate.
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Old 02-12-2007, 12:27 PM   #166 (permalink)
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Ah a fork in the road. Jack can now take over as savior of the "Others" rather than savior of the Losties. Meanwhile, Kate will yet again work on her guilt issues by deciding to try and save Jack.

Not that I don't want to sleep with Kate or anything, but I have had enough of her. They have done very little of the intriguing character development stuff that makes the show so good. Instead it is more of the "will Kate frak Jack or Sawyer" yarn. Gimme a half pound of self loathing from Desmond or Locke any day. . .

I'll still tune in though . . . maybe they can tell us about who Zeke is or something. . .
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Old 02-12-2007, 01:09 PM   #167 (permalink)
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Well put, Mondak. So much of what made season 1 juicy has kind of drifted away, unfortunately. I suppose it's a natural outgrowth of putting Jack. Sawyer and Kate with the Others, but there's been SO little time spent with a lot of the less "stereotypical heroes" who gave the other seasons so much flavor. I'm hoping we'll get back to Locke, Desmond, Hurley and the rest of the gang sooner rather than later, because watching the two hunky guys fight over the beautiful girl, as you said, has kind of run its course.
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Old 02-13-2007, 06:53 PM   #168 (permalink)
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Okay, but Ben's daughter is also Rousseau's daughter.

Did Ben come to the Island with Rousseau?

Did Ben adopt Alex when they took her from Rousseau?
I do not recall them ever explicitly stating that the chick was Rousseau's daughter. I think that is what we were lead to believe, but it was never "officially" stated. I could be wrong.
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Old 02-13-2007, 07:38 PM   #169 (permalink)
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I do not recall them ever explicitly stating that the chick was Rousseau's daughter. I think that is what we were lead to believe, but it was never "officially" stated. I could be wrong.
Well... The age is right. The name is right. She bears a striking resemblance.

I suppose we could get Alex in front of Rousseau and Rousseau could say, "That's not my Alex." But I doubt that very much.
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Old 02-13-2007, 09:42 PM   #170 (permalink)
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Well... The age is right. The name is right. She bears a striking resemblance.

I suppose we could get Alex in front of Rousseau and Rousseau could say, "That's not my Alex." But I doubt that very much.
well I suppose we will find that out tomorrow. . . she may not even know. Then again, Rousseau could be batshit crazy as well.
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Old 02-14-2007, 05:27 AM   #171 (permalink)
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Then again, Rousseau could be batshit crazy as well.
I don't think there's much question about that.
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Old 02-15-2007, 12:09 AM   #172 (permalink)
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I found that lady in Desmond's flashback to be quite creepy.

Desmond protecting Charlie both those times was an interesting twist. And I take it we're supposed to believe that Desmond has lived his life up to this point twice, or did his flashbacks end after he got clubbed in the head with the cricket bat?

I definitely like where things are going with the other characters on the main island. Even though Desmond's abilities is another question to be answered, it will always been in the forefront with every scene he's in with Charlie, so it won't be as bad as some of the other unanswered questions.

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Old 02-15-2007, 04:11 AM   #173 (permalink)
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So...I missed it last night, and due to the fact that my computer is practically run by hamsters on a wheel...I can't watch the episodes they put on the website. Anyone care to update me on what happened in last nights episode?
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Old 02-15-2007, 07:32 AM   #174 (permalink)
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The episode expanded on Desmond, and his ability to "see the future". He talked about a flash back/time travel. Apparently, when he turned the key, he went back to his life before the island. He had fallen off a ladder and hit his head, so he didn't remember anything. The next day, he went to Penny's father to ask if he could marry her, and he said you are not worthy. When he walked out, he ran into Charlie playing his guitar for donations on the street, then it all started coming back to him. He talked to a friend about time travel, and asked if it were possible, then telling his friend about the soccer match on the tv, and someone that was going to walk through the door, but neither happened, and his friend was thinking he was mad. Desmond finally decided to buy a ring for Penny, when he got there, the woman told him that he wouldn't marry her, and all the things he had to do in the next three years, i.e. the island. He didn't believe her. He met Penny, and took a photo with her (the crumbled photo he carries), and just after that, he told her he couldn't do it. He then went to the Pub again, and his predictions came true, but when the guy came in to hurt the bar keep, he got hit instead. When he came to, he was back on the island, after the implosion of the hatch.

I'm sure I'm leaving something out.
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Old 02-15-2007, 08:29 AM   #175 (permalink)
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The fun twist in this episode is the news that Spoiler: Charlie is fated to die and that the Universe will always "course correct". The latter of course is one of the themes of show.

I suspect that the former will not happen, causing events to correct in a suprising way oh, sometime around the season finale. I enjoyed this episode.
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Old 02-15-2007, 10:13 AM   #176 (permalink)
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I don't think the former will get it either. There's too much of an unfinished story behind it anyways.

I also enjoyed the episode. I thought it told a lot about Desmond and satisfied most of the questions it presented.
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Old 02-15-2007, 11:22 AM   #177 (permalink)
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This episode TOTALLY returned LOST to its roots. I was delighted with this episode from beginning to end.
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Old 02-15-2007, 12:56 PM   #178 (permalink)
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Wasn't Penny (Penelope) the uber-rich girl at the end of season 2 who had guys at an Ice Station looking for somebody when they detected the electro-magnetic pulse? If so, Desmond must have told her about it before he left on the sailboat, so she knew what was going to happen and what to look for before it happened.

Head hurting now......

And wasn't the jeweler Debbie Reynolds? "Aba daba daba daba daba daba daba," said the chimpy to the monk.

And when Desmond was putting on his tie in the apartment, you could hear Sarah McLachlan's Building a Mystery playing in the background.

And didn't Penelope resemble Julia an awful lot?

Juicy as shit episode....
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Old 02-15-2007, 04:53 PM   #179 (permalink)
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Wasn't Penny (Penelope) the uber-rich girl at the end of season 2 who had guys at an Ice Station looking for somebody when they detected the electro-magnetic pulse? If so, Desmond must have told her about it before he left on the sailboat, so she knew what was going to happen and what to look for before it happened.
Yeah she is. That's interesting that he might have told her about the electromagnetic pulse. Maybe he's trying to orchestrate their reunion instead of trying to circumvent events that have to happen.

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Old 02-15-2007, 09:45 PM   #180 (permalink)
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god DAMN, this is the Lost that I've been waiting for all season. An excellent episode. And I loved how the flashback worked... it was a good and creepy twist having Desmond be aware of his future on the island.

And, unfinished stories or not, I have a feeling Charlie's number may be up. Has any character's story been fully tidied up before they died?
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Old 02-15-2007, 09:58 PM   #181 (permalink)
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I've been a fan since the first episode, but I just can't get into this Final Destination type twist they threw in there. I just can't / don't believe it.... Ok Ok, I know, there's a ghost / monster / dinosaur thing on the island, but that's part of the effect. This was a bit too cheesy in my eyes.
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Old 02-22-2007, 10:04 AM   #182 (permalink)
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When (and why) did Kate become such a whiny little pest? Can we let her die instead of Charlie, please?
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Old 02-22-2007, 01:14 PM   #183 (permalink)
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Yeah, Kate's character has really dropped off. She went from a smoldering ember that occasionally flared up to a standard damsel in distress. It's lame. Episodes that focus on Jack are also lame, since we've had 6 (?) flashbacks of him. I want Sun and Jin. I want Locke. Enough of hunky guys bickering over the weepy girl!

The Desmond episode looked so promising, and now this week back to this nonsense.
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Old 03-05-2007, 01:46 PM   #184 (permalink)
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If comments in this thread are any indication the ratings for this show must really be dropping. That or everyone is busy discussing heroes instead.
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Old 03-05-2007, 06:08 PM   #185 (permalink)
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If comments in this thread are any indication the ratings for this show must really be dropping. That or everyone is busy discussing heroes instead.
Pretty much it the nail on the head. I still watch every week, but I haven't felt the need to discuss as much as I did for seasons 1 and 2.

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Old 03-05-2007, 06:35 PM   #186 (permalink)
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I was a hardcore commenter for seasons 1 and 2, but my interest has totally dropped off since the big break. I can't seem to get back into it. Also, it isn't on until 11:00 here in this time zone, and I'm not staying up that late to watch it. I've seen the eps since the break and I have not found them to be exciting at all. In fact they've really helped to turn me off the show. That whole Desmond can see the future thing...I totally didn't buy it.

I actually know the point when this season died for me. When the black smoke killed Eko. That was it. After that I was all but done for. The writers have a lot of work to do to get me back onside.
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Old 03-05-2007, 06:46 PM   #187 (permalink)
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Apparently ratings are climbing.

I think commentary is down because we're back into character development story lines with less of a focus on the enigmatic mythology.

I'm still enjoying it.
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Old 03-08-2007, 09:00 AM   #188 (permalink)
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Man Loche was stupid this episode. How could he have missed the implications of doing what he did.... Also why didn't the other 2 tell him about the explosives! ahh
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Old 03-08-2007, 09:23 AM   #189 (permalink)
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That was a frustrating episode. I didn't think that any of Locke's behavior made sense for his character. First, he is leading the expedition. He knows where he is going and is in charge. This is consistent with the single-mindedness which has characterized him in past seasons. Then, they actually find some others and he suddenly turns into an idiot. None of them know who Patchy is. Yet, Locke fools around on Patchy's computer playing chess without a care in the world while his friends struggle with Patchy. Independent of Patchy, you would think that a man who was obsessed with the mystical powers of a prior computer might tread lightly when he finds a secret menu on another related computer.
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Old 03-08-2007, 02:08 PM   #190 (permalink)
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I agree with you sapiens; I thought it was odd that Locke would get distracted so easily by a computer chess game, while Kate and Sayaid were having a discussion with patch man. Also, it is unfortunate about Ms. Klu because she was quite a mysterious character.
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Old 03-09-2007, 08:22 AM   #191 (permalink)
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I thought overall, this show was good. Locke was a let down foresure, but what can you do. Sayaid was great, getting shot, and still kicking ass. Just goes to show that he has a 6th sense about things, and it is usually correct. I thought it funny how Russo (sp?) was back right before the explosion, when she wanted nothing to do with guy/house. Next week looks to be pretty awesome.
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Old 03-09-2007, 08:52 AM   #192 (permalink)
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I agree with you sapiens; I thought it was odd that Locke would get distracted so easily by a computer chess game, while Kate and Sayaid were having a discussion with patch man. Also, it is unfortunate about Ms. Klu because she was quite a mysterious character.
I really don't think it was that odd. Think about opening the hatch, or going on the tour with his wheelchair, he seems to get focused on one thing and that all that matters. Far as him being stupid I think naive is a better word to use think back to him giving his pop a kidney or the whole thing with eddie back on the ranch.

Plus Locke really doesnt want to get off the island, everyone should remember that.
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Old 03-09-2007, 03:30 PM   #193 (permalink)
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I love Sayaid episodes and this one was really no exception. I'm not sure that Locke knew that the place was going to blow, but I'm sure he thought he was doing the right thing in sending out a warning once they'd discovered that Patchy wasn't who he said he was. The man latches on to things and plays with them obsessively. He's exactly the kind of guy who would poke around on a strange computer under he figured out what it does. That's what he did in the hatch, that's absolutely in character with what he'd do here.

Locke has never been a big picture guy. He's always been a "oooh shiny and possibly important, let me play with it" type. I think Ample's closing thought is also really appropriate here. Though the island is becoming increasingly home to most of the losties, it has taken particular importance for Locke. If he can help himself stay there, even at their expense, I think he'll take it.

Kate continues to be lame, though. It was nice to see Sawyer really put in his place for once. I don't think he'll soon forget it. The camp could get tense later this season, I think.
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I agree that it was in character for Locke to focus his attention on the computer, but I did find it odd that Sayid and Kate didn't mention the C4.

And Sayid continues to demonstrate why he is my favourite character - every episode with him as the focus has been good.

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Old 03-15-2007, 05:33 AM   #195 (permalink)
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I thought last night's show was pretty kick ass! I never saw that Claire and Jack being sister/brother coming. I think though in a few weeks when its Jack's turn to have flashbacks we are going to see his dad in Australia meeting up with Claire one more time and she finds out about Jack somehow.

And that was really weird seeing Jack have such a great time playing football with the others. I hope he is just putting on a front and not switching teams
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Old 03-15-2007, 05:48 AM   #196 (permalink)
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That was a great cliffhanger. Having Jack running towards the bushes as if in escape, only to turn around and do what he did was great storytelling.

Technically, I believe Jack and Claire are only Half-Siblings, though it's a great connection.

Here's a rhetorical question: What happens when they make a run for the security perimeter and don't have a tree handy to climb over?
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I thought last night's show was pretty kick ass! I never saw that Claire and Jack being sister/brother coming. I think though in a few weeks when its Jack's turn to have flashbacks we are going to see his dad in Australia meeting up with Claire one more time and she finds out about Jack somehow.

And that was really weird seeing Jack have such a great time playing football with the others. I hope he is just putting on a front and not switching teams
I remember an episode where Jack's father drove to a dark house one rainy night and a girl answered the door and he ran away. I always thought the girl looked like Claire but I wasn't sure. I just assumed that maybe he was the father of Claire's devil-child until she answered the door that episode and didn't recognize him. Now it makes sense.

Do we face the possibility that one or more of the survivors is on the inside with the others and has been the whole time? Jack or Locke?
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Old 03-15-2007, 06:55 AM   #198 (permalink)
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Last night's episode finally shows me that LOST hasn't completely lost it. Brilliant twists and turns. The new Claire/Jack connection is great. What's really great is, we could have seen it coming from the Anna Lucia episode "Two for the Road", where she's with Christian in Australia. But nobody ever guessed.

I would say that Sayeed and Kate's assault plan is not well thought out. In order to get back through the security perimeter, they'll need to either drag a tree a long way down that field, or actually disable the security system. Either way, they're not set up for a quick or stealthy escape.

MAN that moment at the end where it looks like Jack's making a run for it. Jesus that was well done.
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Old 03-15-2007, 08:31 AM   #199 (permalink)
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Well, if I'm going out to left field, I might as well go all the way to the warning track. Perhaps Jack's father isn't really dead. Maybe he's the Magnificent One? He seems to be connected to at least five of the passengers. And Claire's baby would be his grandchild...

The Dharma stuff seems to be medically experimental and many of the cast (survivors and others) have medical connections.
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Here's a rhetorical question: What happens when they make a run for the security perimeter and don't have a tree handy to climb over?
They are going to cut down another tree and get over the security perimeter before the others get to the area.

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