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Jove 05-01-2009 11:27 AM

I used to like Mohinder and what he was doing for research, but now I noticed he lacks a lot of common sense, like when he decided to stay to look at each individual frame in an abandoned warehouse in the middle of nowhere and agents bust down the door to take him out again. Or when he was making an observation about Daphne's health to Danko only to be taken out seconds later.

QuasiMondo 05-01-2009 05:10 PM

Is Suresh even licensed to practice medicine?

Xerxys 05-01-2009 08:31 PM

I really wonder what the F these folks were thinking. Killing Sylar by decapitation and burning and re-animating Nathan with Clair's blood was the way to go.

Instead they chose a more complicated method, keeping Sylar alive. I mean he can heal. Like Peter did when he met Adam.... What happens when Nathan discovers he can't get sick, die, what if Nathan is shot and the whole of his body heals and so does his brain???

So many freakin complications. Are people this inept?

Zeraph 05-02-2009 08:09 PM

Eh, that's not why that plot line was bad. People are emotional, his mom desparetly wants to hang on. It makes sense in that regard. It was bad because it was bad writing, its ok for a subplot point, like in the middle of a season, something brief, where things go back to normal quick, but for a season finale...retarded. The audience all knows whats going to happen, obviously sylar isn't going to go on that way. He'll figure it out eventually, would be even stupider if he didn't. And even worse it ruins the emotionality of nathan dieing.

westothemax 05-05-2009 10:39 PM

I see what Xerxys is saying... I mean they DID bring Noah back from being shot in the eye by using Claire's blood, but everyone seemed to forget about that? Actually... didn't Nathan die before but they used I think Adam's blood to bring him back? :orly:

Nathan's death was really intense, and I thought well done, but the ending of this episode completely shit all over it. Can't the writers just let people die?

I was willing to stick with this show up to this point, but the Sylar/Nathan hybrid BS is just too much. I hope the writers forget about it like they do with so much other stuff, and Sythan mysteriously disappears in the first episode of next season.

QuasiMondo 05-06-2009 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Xerxys (Post 2631259)
I really wonder what the F these folks were thinking. Killing Sylar by decapitation and burning and re-animating Nathan with Clair's blood was the way to go.

Instead they chose a more complicated method, keeping Sylar alive. I mean he can heal. Like Peter did when he met Adam.... What happens when Nathan discovers he can't get sick, die, what if Nathan is shot and the whole of his body heals and so does his brain???

So many freakin complications. Are people this inept?

Yes.

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Originally Posted by Zeraph (Post 2631584)
Eh, that's not why that plot line was bad. People are emotional, his mom desparetly wants to hang on. It makes sense in that regard. It was bad because it was bad writing, its ok for a subplot point, like in the middle of a season, something brief, where things go back to normal quick, but for a season finale...retarded. The audience all knows whats going to happen, obviously sylar isn't going to go on that way. He'll figure it out eventually, would be even stupider if he didn't. And even worse it ruins the emotionality of nathan dieing.

It doesn't make sense to think that Bennett, the man who's been chasing Sylar for years, the man who views Sylar as the #1 threat against Claire, the man who blames Sylar for nearly killing his wife and ending their marriage would stand there and agree to this. This was his one and only chance to end Sylar as a threat, and he should know that keeping him alive would only lead to a bigger disaster (like it did when they the Company ignored his pleas to kill Sylar the first time they caught him). He should've been trying to talk Parkman out of doing what he did, not talk him into it.

For that matter, Parkman should've been trying to talk her out of it too. He's had to deal with death and the desperate desire to hang on. He knows you can't truly bring back the dead (despite the wishes of the writing staff).

Everybody in that room who had an ounce of common sense, knowing what Sylar is capable of should've told her hell no to what she suggested, and in one fell swoop, they abandoned all of it, without any regard to the monstrous mess they will inevitably create.

Tim Kring has no regard for character development.

mrklixx 09-22-2009 05:41 AM

Anybody else think the season premier was kind of a snoozefest?

Troublebot 09-22-2009 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by mrklixx (Post 2706893)
Anybody else think the season premier was kind of a snoozefest?

Yikes, that doesn't bode well. I watched House last night and Tivo'ed Heroes, figuring I'd watch the first few episodes and then cut it loose if it was sucking like the two years previous. Are you telling me I don't even have to wait the few episodes? :)

guy44 09-22-2009 11:01 AM

I think some diabolical bad guy used his powers to suck all pretense of logic, characterization, and plot out of this show. And well-written dialogue. And subtlety. And excitement.

Once again, I'm left wondering what Joss Whedon could do with the kind of money getting spent on this show. And where that Irish girl from season 2 is.

Willravel 09-22-2009 05:58 PM

Anyone else think Matt Parkman is getting ripped off? Baltar gets Caprica Six in his head and Parkman get Sylar? He really should complain.

BTW, for the first time since season 1, Peter is interesting. It's refreshing.

fresnelly 09-22-2009 06:10 PM

I always wished Sylar was done with after the first season. I won't be watching.

Zeraph 09-24-2009 11:35 AM

Definitely a mediocre premier. I don't think I've ever been so back and forth on a show. Sometimes it sucks so much yet sometimes its so great. I don't get what's with the writers. Are they just randomly replacing writers or something?

Xerxys 09-24-2009 12:43 PM

^^ I thought the exact same thing. They begin so many story lines and don't end them.

westothemax 10-09-2009 10:09 PM

This show has become completely pointless and with each episode it just gets worse and worse. I'm pretty sure this will be the last season... its like the writers/producers have already given up.

pan6467 03-03-2010 11:39 AM

This isn't a bad show. It seems like the writers tho have issues i the middle of every season and try to just let the story work itself out.

BUT, they do a decent job with ending the season and making you want more.

I don't know about the current season, (just watched the first 4 seasons on DVD), but this whole jumping into the future seeing the "bad things and the end of the world" and then battling it to stop is a good way to keep a show going, but I'd have liked it a little more if the writers would jump back and forth so that we could see some of the "changes" to the future as they happen. OR what about having someone jump back from the future trying to change the past because he was happy with his life as it was?

At times this is one of the sloppiest written shows I've ever seen and others it is well scripted, thought out and fun to watch. The one true thing I do enjoy over and over is Hiro and Ando's comic relief but those times are getting fewer and far between. If those go, I'll probably stop watching all together. I'd rather see more of Hiro and Ando and the comic relief than to watch Parkman shaking his head and holding off the bad guys.

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Originally Posted by fresnelly (Post 2707276)
I always wished Sylar was done with after the first season. I won't be watching.

Iwas not a Sylar fan, thought his was a very one dimensional character. What I found is in times when he was "with the company", or the future where he gives Peter his power, and even with the kid on his way to find his dad. He can add a lot when he shows some form of humanity and inner turmoil. Problem is the writers seem to keep liking him as a one dimensional character. while everyone else gets deeper and more substantive in their character.

Willravel 03-04-2010 01:21 PM

I'd like to see an episode where the entire cast is wiped out. Especially Sylar. If the show absolutely has to continue, they need a new cast and new writers. Maybe they can finally address where the powers came from and what they ultimately mean.


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