Val_1

The problem with prequels is that the characters are already defined. We know their ulitmate fate, so there's not much they can do storywise. The Star Trek universe is even more so. The fans know the timelines. It's too well defined. The writers would be working within and incredibly small box as far as what they could write. I would think it would be best to let ST be.

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Maveric

need a star trek fix?

for those old schoolers...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_New_Voyages

http://www.startreknewvoyages.com/

for those Next Generaton Junkies...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Hidden_Frontier

http://www.hiddenfrontier.org/

Star Trek versus Star Wars

enjoy!



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gnort

They had the poster at Comic Con.

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Willravel

Aparently, Paramount jumped the gun in the first article and J.J. Abrams did not commit to the project until this last Friday. Unfortunately, the project will still center around the Starfleet Cadet meeting of Kirk and Spock.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/...188c7f10902b44

I must say that I am not a fan of Lost, at all, and I think that revisitng Kirk and Spock is a step in the wrong direction. I will see the movie, of course, but I don't see myself liking it. If the Others are controlling Starfleet from behind the scenes and a wild boar tells Kirk to say "the world will end" at the beginning of each Capitan's Log or the Enterprise will explode, I'll eat Abrams alive (or put an explosive in his head a la Mission Impossible 3).

I believe that as soon as Ronald D. Moore left the Star Trek universe, things started going down hill. Manny Coto, writer for Enterprise, was an exceptional talent, but was bogged down by Berman until it was too late. If a Star Trek movie is to succeed again, we need Moore back with the help of Manny Coto.

stevie667

ugh, we need to get together starfleet, raid nBSG and steal their writers and tyllium!

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shesus

Obviously, I don't pay attention since this thread is so long and I missed it.

I just found out today that they were making a movie because I caught Matt Damon's name. I find that interesting and wonder if they're trying to get new people interested by using big stars like that. I'm interested again...*shrug*

I would get back into star trek to watch Matt Damon. I know, I'm not a full fledged Trekkie. But I'm one of the only people i know that liked the first and second season of TNG more than the others.

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Will this be an even- or odd-numbered Trek? This is important to know.

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mirevolver

This will be odd numbered. The last one, Nemisis was #10.

So it's safe to assume that the odd numbered curse will apply.

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QuasiMondo

I doubt many trekkers really want to snatch Ron Moore back from BSG.

Odd-numbered Trek? It's gonna be two thumbs down.

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YaWhateva

Didn't someone announce (or let slip) at Comic Con that Zachary Quinto of Heroes fame is going to be playing Spock? I like the actor, but I don't know if he would be a good Spock or not. He can pretty much pull off the look, though.

Edti: Well I guess its on IMDB now that he is going to be Spock.

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WTF?

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Prophecy

Secret, where did you get that quote from?

Abrams comments don't exactly do a lot to inspire faith and if his version of Star Trek is anything like Cloverfield, I'll never go see it.

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Willravel

I suddenly got a flash of Kirk taking the boots off a dead Scotty and Sulu smiles with an orange in his mouth.

/Lost

SecretMethod70

I got it from trektoday.com, and I agree with you. Though, I know I'll go see it either way...I'm just hoping that I'll also like it.

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Prophecy

/sigh

Actually, I'm sure I'll be in the same boat as you. I'll go see it and pray it's good. Perhaps the odd number curse won't apply.

One side note: anyone know the reason they're messing with the Kirk era instead of doing a Deep Space Nine or Voyager movie? I'd kill for a DS9 movie, but it'd have to feature Jadzia Dax (Terry Farrell) instead of Ezri Dax.

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SecretMethod70

Paramount, et al, believe (incorrectly) that they need to either a) return to Star Trek's "roots," or b) "restart" the franchise. The possibility that there was nothing particularly wrong with the Star Trek brand, just that the market was oversaturated - that's not something they can comprehend. I've said for years now that a good compromise would have been to make a movie using the U.S.S. Titan. You have some familiar crew members, but also an ability to introduce new crew members and create a new and exciting environment in the movie. Instead, they're doing....this.

And I'm pretty positive one of the big reasons Star Trek X wasn't very good is because the person at the helm was proud of the fact he knew next to nothing about Star Trek (and ignored the cast when they tried to point out that something didn't make sense). Clearly, if Abrams is flaunting that he wasn't a fan, the studios have not learned.

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Willravel

The blame for this lies in Batman Begins, Casino Royale, etc. They assume that because these restarts actually managed to be succesful, ALL restarts will be. I'm sure you and I agree that while they were both undoubtedly successful and deserved their success, the success itself cannot be attributed to the reboot, but other factors.

While I can appreciate that a restart could be successful... well the end of the Star Trek universe is, for the time being, Nemesis (ST 10). That just doesn't sit right with me. As a matter of fact, it pisses me off.

I'd kill to see Titan (so long as Franks isn't all doughy and they stop pretending Marina is in her 20s).
I'm still working under the impression that Nemesis was actually a propaganda piece for the Dominion in order to get the Jem'Hadar pissed and ready to take Betezed or Risa.

What I'm hoping is that Abrams is surrounding himself with nerds not unlike myself so that he can simply have access to correct canon. Shit, I'll volunteer to keep him up on Enterprise canon, which is likely to be important as this is the first part of Star Trek that's been made after it.

james t kirk

Here is a teaser on Youtube.......



Looks like the real deal.

(Very American with the historical references in the background (what, no Yuri Gagarin, or Sergey Korolyov, or Wherner Von Braun).

Not scheduled for release until May 2009 now I read....

Willravel

High quality here:
http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/startrek/

snowy

It looks pretty. Definite visual appeal, high quality effects. I can't say much else. It gives no clue as to how the movie will actually be...but at least it will be pretty.

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james t kirk

The thing that I don't get about that teaser is how is it that they are still arc welding in the 24'th century?

And still using steel for that matter.

Details details I know.

Willravel

They're phaser arc welders.

Willravel

Here is a really crappy version of the trailer that will officially be released this Monday for Star Trek!

TrailerSpy - Star Trek Trailer (Bootleg)

levite

I saw the trailer Friday, when I went to see the new Bond flick with my boyz: it looks...interesting. It definitely doesn't look like any other Star Trek film.

I'll go see it. On the one hand, I can't rule out it being cool. On the other, while the trailer was interesting, it also kind of looked like the world's most expensive fan film....

I think trying to reboot the Trek franchise by re-casting the original series cast is fundamentally a bad idea. I think the Trek universe is has become too complex and interwoven to support this kind of reboot.

I think it would have been much smarter to try something more akin to the franchise re-start they did when they first invented Next Generation. But rather than another TV series-- hopefully they'd have learned their lesson about prequels, but even if they just did "Star Trek: The Generation After That One"-- do a starter movie, to catch people's interest.

My idea: all new characters, new ship, same Trek universe, but set like 200 or 300 years after the Next Gen serieses. You could completely re-set the balances of power, who the major power players are in the Galaxy, what enemies have come and gone and are still a threat, and you could do amazing projections of where the Trek technology might have gone, given a couple centuries of furious advancement.... You could even darken it up a little, like they did for the last few seasons of DS9. Do a movie or two like this, and if it takes a following, spin off a series.

But this notion that you can just reboot the old Kirk-Spock-McCoy franchise with new actors.... I don't think this will work. Trek is not literature, where characters are originally just words, waiting for someone, anyone, to give them life and form. Trek began in visual form, and those characters are too firmly bonded to the images of the original actors. The characters are too deeply built on the devices of the actors. No character bio called for the Vulcan split-finger salute or the Vulcan neck pinch: Nimoy invented them. Likewise, everyone knows Kirk is emotional and tends to over-enunciate when stressed: that comes only from Shatner being an overactor, and tending to over-enunciate when stressed.

This is just not a good idea.

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Willravel

I'm cautiously optimistic, but I agree that it's not a good idea to reboot something as big as Star Trek. It could work, but then again you know it's not going to be cannon and it's going to piss off a lot of people.

Personally, I still want a final TNG movie, something written by Ronald D. Moore, so that we can all forget about Nemesis and get honest closure. And for God's sake let Dennis McCarthy (TNG, Generations, DS9, Voyager, Enterprise) do the score. The man knows what Star Trek should sound like.

fresnelly

I'm keeping an open mind and like Will, am cautiously optimistic. I like JJ Abrahms work and based on an interview with the Writers in Wired Magazine, it's in good hands.

If Paramount is unwilling to put together the best of the original production teams (for whatever stupid reasons) by all means let's start fresh.

The only element I'm struggling with is how young the cast is. I'm used to Trek crews being stately and experienced. I want Kirk's cockiness to have been earned and not just a factor of youth. This is the angle I really hope the producers have a handle on.

I'm now limiting how much I read about the movie ahead of time so I don't build up unreasonable expectations and it isn't too spoiled.

That said, here's the Wired interview with the writers: http://blog.wired.com/underwire/2008...rek-write.html

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SecretMethod70

I agree 100% with levite. I'll see the movie, cause I'm pathetic and it's Star Trek, but the trailer did not fill me with optimism at all.

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Lucifer

I just saw the trailer when i saw Quantum of Solace, and it kicked ass!

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The Next Generation stands in my eyes as one of the finest TV series ever written.

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stevie667

Watching the trailer, it is either going to be freakin awesome or so bad it will be stricken from canon.

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Trailer 2!
Apple - Trailers - Star Trek - Trailer 2 - Large

(not sure how/if I can embed this)

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Prophecy

Finally saw the most recent trailer and I have to agree with Stevie, though I'm still optimistic.




And another random video I found on youtube.

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lmfao at that last clip

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ASU2003

I'll see it and I'll probably like it, but I agree that I would have liked to have seen them go 400 years into the future and see what they can come up with.

blahblah454

Trailer did not do a whole lot for me. But man am I ever excited for this!

fresnelly

New trailer up! It's much more promising than the first one IMHO.

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Lasereth

The new trailer is pretty good. I am somewhat excited for this. I am a huge TNG fan but this is obviously nothing like TNG. I do love the look and feel of the movie though.

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Omi-frakin-God, this movie is going to rock!

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Willravel

I was pissed they were doing a reboot at first, but it's not a reboot so I'm not pissed.

Check out the HD trailer here: Apple - Movie Trailers - Star Trek

Gotta love 1080p!

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