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kramus · 03-13-2005, 09:03 PM

What I have here is a set of variations on a theme. The full page is 8-1/2 by 11 in my black hardcover sketchbook. The individual sketches are 3-1/2 x 5, using 4b and 2b pencils. I would like to do something with the idea but what? As you can see variations are easy to come by, so I need to bite the bullet and just pick one. Then I need to figure out what medium to use. Again, I figure that pretty anything could work here. I could go ahead and just do something but I know imput from TFP sure can't hurt. C&C anyone?

vermin · 03-15-2005, 11:38 AM

Wallpaper. Not for the computer, the kind you glue to an actual wall. Just imagine hundreds and hundreds of these covering every wall and ceiling of your house. Cool.

frogza · 03-15-2005, 11:59 AM

The contrast may be greater in the originals but on these I would push it more. As far as medium I would recomend Gouache and ink, or if you have the resources available to you go with lithograph printing, then you could sell them as prints.

They are very intriguing, almost hypnotic. They have a good flow to them and you seem to have a good sense of composition. All in all, a good design.

followtherabbit · 03-19-2005, 06:15 PM

red - lots of red ink - and eyeballs - put in lots of eyeballs - thx!!! awesome work!

pansexual · 03-28-2005, 07:16 PM

i actually use turpentine- it really gives some interesting effects. dark pencils (like your B's) and charcoal stick completely differently and give you a smoother surface. i love the tree-like qualities... maybe try hiding some imagery? possibly figurative?

kramus · 03-28-2005, 07:53 PM

Thanks for the look and the imput folks

Vermin - that would be a very different look you suggest for a room. I wonder if something like that using a master figure sort of as a template that gives a room a mural look, all made up of different versions of these drawings. I should put that in the dream-of-owning-an-airbrush file

frogza I don't have a lot of pure black in the sketches. That gauche - I haven't used it. What kind of board or stock would you use? Does it mate well with things like pen & ink and/or graphite? I don't have litho resources right now, and I bet if I went with some 4-colour or spot colour job I'd have to be pretty sure of how I'd sell them. And about selling my work, well, I don't know how to go about that really either. Thanks for the comments on the composition and feel of the work.

LOL followtherabbit - that sure would make them wild and crazy looking for sure

pansexual I want to hear more about the turpentine - do you apply it to a board or paper before drawing? During, with different brushes in a painterly way? This intrigues me. I would like to tuck this and that into them. They are eventually to be based on the female form as landscape in a lot of cases. This is actually a small part of a concept series I'm slowly getting a handle on. Elsewhere in the art forum you'll find a couple of threads about Sessile.

frogza · 03-29-2005, 06:51 AM

Gouache is very similar to watercolor, just feels thicker on the paper. You can use it with standard watercolor paper, just tape the paper down before applying to prevent warping. Then you can go in with ink or graphite to accentuate and add details. If your interested in info on selling I can go into that.

kramus · 03-29-2005, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by frogza

... If your interested in info on selling I can go into that.

Please do. I know nothing.

frogza · 03-30-2005, 12:23 PM

How much work do you produce in an average 6 month period? What mediums do you work with and what dimensions are we talking about?

For the work above, if you did it in gouache and ink, at around 17" x 11" you could probably sell them for between $80-$200 each, depending on the market in your area. the venue will depend on the volume of work you produce, if you create a lot, a gallery might be your best bet. Most galleries require a portfolio of your work so they can get a sense of your style, before they will accept your work. Each gallery will have thier own portfolio guidelines that they can give you upon request.

You can also go to street fairs, street markets or city carnivals. The fee to get a booth is usually reasonable and can be made up with the sale of only a few pieces. This may be a good venue to start with, especially if you can find someone to share the booth with, so you don't have to foot the whole bill. Look in your area for artist guilds that you can join as well, that way you can get into their guild shows and booths as well.

Of course an online portfolio can't hurt, you can use paypal to accept payments for work or just do money orders.

Good luck with it, PM me if you have any other questions and I'll be happy to help you find the answers.

kramus · 03-30-2005, 01:53 PM

Thanks for the info frogza

I don't have a handle on things like timely production of work because I tend to do small pieces in pen and pencil (so far 11x14 is large, and I often spend 50-100 hours on those). I do have food for thought here, and the questions you ask are excellent basic ones for me to mull over. I do know that the art I do seems like it needs a larger market then what is available locally, and so far my long-distance pursuit of big city galleries has come up dry. But for sure I have a lot more info then I did before your post and I probably will come up with more specific questions. I'll keep your PM offer in the definite to-do list. Thanks again.

kramus · 09-04-2007, 06:17 PM

I'm going to bump all my art threads - attachments uploaded to TFP are going to be deleted as per http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=123398, and I would like to put this stuff out there one last time

03-13-2005, 09:03 PM	#1 (permalink)
kramus loving the curves Location: my Lady's manor	suggestions anyone? What I have here is a set of variations on a theme. The full page is 8-1/2 by 11 in my black hardcover sketchbook. The individual sketches are 3-1/2 x 5, using 4b and 2b pencils. I would like to do something with the idea but what? As you can see variations are easy to come by, so I need to bite the bullet and just pick one. Then I need to figure out what medium to use. Again, I figure that pretty anything could work here. I could go ahead and just do something but I know imput from TFP sure can't hurt. C&C anyone? __________________ And now to disengage the clutch of the forebrain ... I'm going with this - if you like artwork visit http://markfineart.ca

03-15-2005, 11:38 AM	#2 (permalink)
vermin Indifferent to anti-matter Location: Tucson, AZ	Wallpaper. Not for the computer, the kind you glue to an actual wall. Just imagine hundreds and hundreds of these covering every wall and ceiling of your house. Cool. __________________ If puns were sausages, this would be the wurst.

03-19-2005, 06:15 PM	#4 (permalink)
followtherabbit Upright Location: NY	red - lots of red ink - and eyeballs - put in lots of eyeballs - thx!!! awesome work! __________________ lx

03-28-2005, 07:53 PM	#6 (permalink)
kramus loving the curves Location: my Lady's manor	Thanks for the look and the imput folks Vermin - that would be a very different look you suggest for a room. I wonder if something like that using a master figure sort of as a template that gives a room a mural look, all made up of different versions of these drawings. I should put that in the dream-of-owning-an-airbrush file frogza I don't have a lot of pure black in the sketches. That gauche - I haven't used it. What kind of board or stock would you use? Does it mate well with things like pen & ink and/or graphite? I don't have litho resources right now, and I bet if I went with some 4-colour or spot colour job I'd have to be pretty sure of how I'd sell them. And about selling my work, well, I don't know how to go about that really either. Thanks for the comments on the composition and feel of the work. LOL followtherabbit - that sure would make them wild and crazy looking for sure pansexual I want to hear more about the turpentine - do you apply it to a board or paper before drawing? During, with different brushes in a painterly way? This intrigues me. I would like to tuck this and that into them. They are eventually to be based on the female form as landscape in a lot of cases. This is actually a small part of a concept series I'm slowly getting a handle on. Elsewhere in the art forum you'll find a couple of threads about Sessile. __________________ And now to disengage the clutch of the forebrain ... I'm going with this - if you like artwork visit http://markfineart.ca

03-30-2005, 01:53 PM	#10 (permalink)
kramus loving the curves Location: my Lady's manor	Thanks for the info frogza I don't have a handle on things like timely production of work because I tend to do small pieces in pen and pencil (so far 11x14 is large, and I often spend 50-100 hours on those). I do have food for thought here, and the questions you ask are excellent basic ones for me to mull over. I do know that the art I do seems like it needs a larger market then what is available locally, and so far my long-distance pursuit of big city galleries has come up dry. But for sure I have a lot more info then I did before your post and I probably will come up with more specific questions. I'll keep your PM offer in the definite to-do list. Thanks again. __________________ And now to disengage the clutch of the forebrain ... I'm going with this - if you like artwork visit http://markfineart.ca

03-15-2005, 11:59 AM	#3 (permalink)
frogza Registered User Location: Right Here	The contrast may be greater in the originals but on these I would push it more. As far as medium I would recomend Gouache and ink, or if you have the resources available to you go with lithograph printing, then you could sell them as prints. They are very intriguing, almost hypnotic. They have a good flow to them and you seem to have a good sense of composition. All in all, a good design.

03-28-2005, 07:16 PM	#5 (permalink)
pansexual Upright Location: peoria, IL	i actually use turpentine- it really gives some interesting effects. dark pencils (like your B's) and charcoal stick completely differently and give you a smoother surface. i love the tree-like qualities... maybe try hiding some imagery? possibly figurative?

03-29-2005, 06:51 AM	#7 (permalink)
frogza Registered User Location: Right Here	Gouache is very similar to watercolor, just feels thicker on the paper. You can use it with standard watercolor paper, just tape the paper down before applying to prevent warping. Then you can go in with ink or graphite to accentuate and add details. If your interested in info on selling I can go into that.

03-30-2005, 12:23 PM	#9 (permalink)
frogza Registered User Location: Right Here	How much work do you produce in an average 6 month period? What mediums do you work with and what dimensions are we talking about? For the work above, if you did it in gouache and ink, at around 17" x 11" you could probably sell them for between $80-$200 each, depending on the market in your area. the venue will depend on the volume of work you produce, if you create a lot, a gallery might be your best bet. Most galleries require a portfolio of your work so they can get a sense of your style, before they will accept your work. Each gallery will have thier own portfolio guidelines that they can give you upon request. You can also go to street fairs, street markets or city carnivals. The fee to get a booth is usually reasonable and can be made up with the sale of only a few pieces. This may be a good venue to start with, especially if you can find someone to share the booth with, so you don't have to foot the whole bill. Look in your area for artist guilds that you can join as well, that way you can get into their guild shows and booths as well. Of course an online portfolio can't hurt, you can use paypal to accept payments for work or just do money orders. Good luck with it, PM me if you have any other questions and I'll be happy to help you find the answers.

09-04-2007, 06:17 PM	#11 (permalink)
kramus loving the curves Location: my Lady's manor	I'm going to bump all my art threads - attachments uploaded to TFP are going to be deleted as per http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=123398, and I would like to put this stuff out there one last time __________________ And now to disengage the clutch of the forebrain ... I'm going with this - if you like artwork visit http://markfineart.ca