Homebrew labels
 

My buddy and I have made quite a few beers in the last five years, and I have made labels for almost all of them. I'll post them here one at a time.

So, in no particular order, Here's the White Walrus.
http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/phot...72479_1266.jpg

lol... what the hell is the walrus wearing?

good job though, the water seems kind of odd though.

My best impression of what the wrinkles in walrus skin look like? And a stern expression? I was going for Haida Amerind style, like on a totem pole.

I'll post the tother label I used that Style on next.

The water is Kai's Power Tools 6 Reaction Filter. After a zillion anchor points to draw the walrus, I wanted to point and click for the water.

Here's the next label:
http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/phot...72449_2647.jpg

Wow these are pretty impressive. Can you give an overview of how you created it. What program do you use? Do you have sketches or preliminaries that you could show? I'd be interested in the process.

Keep posting.

I use Photoshop for most of my graphics work. I've never been able to get the hang of Illustrator. Lately, I have been using Bryce to create some backgrounds.

I mentioned the water on White Walrus used KPT 6 Reaction Filter. The Firewolf background was Render>Clouds in beige & tan, then Black Box Alien Skin>Swirl filter, with a Distort>Wave filter for the edges.

The main Font on White Walrus is Bard, and on Firewolf, the Top font is Kustom Kar by Ray Larabie (who, incidentally, rocks), the ESB is in Berlinner, and the script is Chase Callas.

The technique is called "split profile". The idea is to draw a profile that, when doubled and mirrored, provides a good view from another angle too (front and/or top usually, but I also did a salmon that shows front and bottom). I used the pen tool and did both of these up entirely in bezier curves, drawing just the left side, then filling it, copying the layer, then flipping the new layer, repositioning, and mergeing it back in. The idea with the walrus was for the body to sweep up and around to both sides and join up again at the back flippers over the head, but that didn't work out the way I had planned. The front turned out well enough that I just kept it. The wolf turned out perfectly.

I've attached the only version of the salmon I have accessible from this computer.

Here's another Label. This one uses some pix I found and alters and composits them together. The label for the neck of the bottle is on top, and the rest of the label gets pasted on as a diamond.
http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/phot...39199_5948.jpg
(Here's the main label in the aspect it would be in on the bottle)
http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/phot...39200_6312.jpg
(Hope I've guessed properly which label this used to be....)

"Gamma Hooch Brewing Company"

That is just great! Keep it up, Top. I like the original artwork.

Thanks, Pete.

OK, over on my Bryce threat, analinguist thinks that one of my bryce based labels it too technology driven and synthetic looking - Second post in <a href="http://tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?threadid=34315">This Thread</a>. (No longer. Image isn't there any more. Here it is.)
http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/phot...72455_4354.jpg

Maybe so, maybe not. An insightful criticism in any case.

Here's another that I did largely in Bryce, and then added some effects and framing in Photoshop:
http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/phot...39239_2169.jpg

The label with the hippos is priceless. The Daystar: Sparklemead label does seem to miss the target on what it's intended for. When I see it the first thing that comes to mind is that it's an ad for some new space simulation/video game. Good design, but I think it maybe a little in the wrong direction for a beer label. Granted it's out of context right now. Show us what it would look like on a bottle, that may change the perception of the image.

The siamese pygmy hippos are awesome though, that one's perfect.

Moobie.
Now that you mention it, you're right: It does look a bit like a software box. Hmm. I went with a solar motif for the batch of meads I currently have in the fermenter. I was going to attach one of my other mead labels, but the're too big. Here, then is a label spoofing on one heck of an album cover...
http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/phot...72446_1825.jpg

Note that the website is defunct. I started directing folks to it and linking to it from here and from Fark, and it exceeded its bandwidth pretty quickly and got shut down.

As for, before I am even asked, what's with the pear, my buddy and I have a series of pale ales that started with "Pear on Stilts" (I'll post that one eventually if folks want me to keep going.) which we brewed for a counter-baby shower (while the girls oohed and ahhed at onesies and boppies and diaper bag accessories in the living room, the guys drank homebrew in the garage.)

any way to order some of these?

31Friction,
No, I'm sorry. In order for me to take orders I would have to get a license and obey health codes and pay a godawful amount of tax, something like 200 to 400% of the cost of the brewing and I am not willing to 1) go through the hassle or 2) make the state fat like that.

I can recommend good books to learn to brew your own, share recipes with you, and maybe even point you at internet homebrew suppliers or even suppliers local to your area (possibly), but unless you're in the area and I know you well enough to invite you to my house, you probably won't be able to drink any of this.

I really am sorry that the hassle to sell pretty much forecloses the possiblity (heck there's even a legal limit of the amount I can give away to an unrealted person, but I don't think they pay too much attention to that unless you're egregious about it.) Maybe someday I will decide to make a go of it commercially, but not yet. Probably not 'til the girls are out of college. (20 years)

I'd like to find some info on the process :) it would be much appreciated

31Friction,
You asked for it :D

The standard beginning homebrew book is Charlie Papazian's Complete Joy of Home Brewing

That book has everything you need to learn how to brew, plus some good recipes. The three other beer books I have found to be really worth having are:
The Homebrewer's Companion , which has some good advice on technique and a few good recipes

The Brewmaster's Bible , which has a ton of good recipes sorted by difficulty and a lot of good brewing technique that you shouldn't be exposed to until abfter you've brewed a beer or two with Papazian's methods and attitude. (Snyder will stress you out if you don't read Papazian first)

Designing Great Beers will give you all the theory and the math to back it up. This is a much more advanced book, but the one I find myself coming back to over and over.

For mead, there's only two books out there that I know of, and both have some serious drawbacks. I'm only going to recommend one: The Compleat Meadmaker
It has less detail than I would like, but better technique and less filler than the other one.

http://www.beertown.org/ is your starting point for all things brewing on the web. They can help you find suppliers and homebrewers in your area. (You shouldn't have any problems in St. Louis.)

Best of luck and happy brewing. Lemme know how your first batch turns out, and feel free to contact me with questions or for recipes.

Another label...
http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/phot...72458_5230.jpg

those are sick!

Sick is good? I hope.

Another, then. Meant to post this earlier, but saved it a bit too big. I've compressed it a little:
http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/phot...72463_6518.jpg

Those are all great, that's awesome. My favorites were the Wolf and the Pear. Awesome awesome job. I wish I lived near you so I could try out some of these beers of yours. Start distributing to St. Louis, hehehe.

devnull, 31Friction seems to be out St. Louis way, and seems interested in brewing. I can't sell you the beer, but I'm happy to share the recipes.

Here's one of the Industrial Stout Labels:
http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/phot...39241_7364.jpg

thanks for the info, I'll start checking it out! I currently live in the lou, ill be moving to Tucson AZ in about a month and a half though.

Just a quick note to all readers of this thread: I am seeking constructive criticism on any or all labels. THose of you who have given me positive feedback, thanks! But don't be shy if you want to tell me you don't like some aspect, particularly if you can tell me why, and if you can tell me how a label could be improved, I'm happy to hear it.

Thanks again, all. I'll post another tonight.

the firewolf and laughing lizard are by far my favorite. they have sort of a rustic(For lack of a better word) feel to them. some of the others I think look a little too computer generated. when I think "good beer" i would picture a label that looks professional and projects a feeling that the brewer had been around a while and knows what they are doing.

If it were me I would keep the basic layout for the lizard and firewolf ones and just change the meat of the label like youve done on those 2 already. just my .02...

Hehe... Impenetrable Stout... that one must have been THICK :)
Great labels, looking really good. Would love to try and make my own beer some time. Is it very expensive and time consuming?

31Friction,
I agree that, for a production beer anyway, the simple, almost beer coaster presentation of the Laughing Lizard and Firewolf would work best (and, for that matter, cost least to print). Here's one that's somewhere in between that rustication and the more obviously techno ones:

Hu-Man
Actually, Penetrode hasn't been brewed yet. We were brainstorming variations on imperial stouts one night (my buddy Will and I), and that was the one we came up with for a hybrid Oatmeal/Imperial stout.

As for Homebrewing, this really isn't the forum to get too far into it. I have fun with it, but it can be a good bit of work. <a href="http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3917">Here's one of the two threads</a> out there to discuss it, and <a href="http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?s=&postid=776137#post776137">Here's the other</a>

I definately like the pear on stilts as well. Great Job IMO.

OK, here's the newest item, for our first Oatmeal stout, to be brewed sometime next month:
http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/phot...39242_3412.jpg

^^ I think it would look good against green glass.

The only problem is that Green glass won't stop Ultraviolet light, and ten seconds exposure to UV is enough to cause a chemical reaction in the iso-alpha acids from the hops to "skunk" the beer. That's why people put lemon in Corona - it's almost always skunked.

hahaha @ dark side of the pear

i like the <b>laughing lizard</b> best, because it looks most like it was created by a professional graphic designer. it doesn't use all the bevels, embossing & photoshop filters like many of the others. also, if you look at most beer labels they are clean flat graphic elements, often vectors, that print well.

firewolf & pears on stilts aren't too bad either. i'm not saying the others are shit or anything, just saying those 3, imho, are the best.

i love your name: gamma hooch brewing company

Thank you, Bernadette. Having even one look at all close to professional is better than I had hoped at his point. Good advice on the vector basing. I will try to keep that in mind. The lizard, the wolf, and the walrus are all done in bezier curves, with the Photoshop pen tool, so they're easily scalable. One of these days, I'll have to really learn how to use Illustrator.

Here's the first label from one of out signature brews:

Mate this is some crazy stuff.. Way too much beer for my liking.. lol.. But the labels are GREAT! The hippo one is one of my favs so far :D

these are ALL fuckin' great............

keep up the awsome work and thanx for showing us eh.

http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/attachm...&postid=760735

It's a wonder you don't get any flack from Quaker Oats on copy write infringments!!!

Great Labels though.

Satire is protected speech and fair use, and I wouldn't use their oats for it anyway; I'd use bulk organic. And besides, I'm mostly under the radar, so even SLAP suits are unlikely.

Those are insane man. My father homebrews, and I gotta say, his homebrew (some of it anyway) is the only beer I like.

We never made labels like that though! Usually when we ended it with multiple kinds we just threw some masking tape on the bottles...

As a Pink Floyd fan, Dark side of the pear is a favorite!

They are all fantastic, well done mate.

nice lables, homebrew is the coolest

Thanks everyone! It's nice to be appreciated.

Here's one I put together building slightly on an idea Repoman on Fark did up as a photoshop:

Now that's more recreation than creation. the actual creative part was the neck label (also inspired by a Fark photoshop, but fleshed out a good bit more):

These are excellent! Pink Floyd rules. :)

this is my favorite thread *ever* in this topic :)

I love beer label art like this and from other microbrews...

Excellent artwork - keep it up.

wow, great stuff... my friends and I just did some quick ones from digitized pix of ourselves. i'll see if I can track them down, but they might only be funny to one of us.

Thanks again!

I have a Brown ale going at the moment that is more or less the shade of Coca-Cola, so I am going to bottle a case in 7 oz Coke bottles for fishing goodness. Here's the label:
http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/phot...172477_694.jpg

Here's the newest one (I swiped the elephant from Chuck Jones):
http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/phot...42518_5599.jpg

nice tophat!

do you still have at least one bottle of each? (empty or full)

i'd love to see a picture of all your collective labels on the bottles. *bats eyes* :D

Actually, I do have a collection of bottles with every beer we have made. It's in my garage, so once the spring cleaning is done - next weekend, if it doesn't piss down rain all week again - I'll take a picture and post it.

These are incredible. Nice work. I think the laughing lizard is my favorite.

this is all pretty ferkin incredible!

I LOVE your creative bent!

these are awesome! thanks for sharing.

Greetings again! October second, my buddy Will and I are holding our Annual Homebrew Appreciation/Birthday Party out in Reston/Sterling Virginia. (PM or email if you'd like an evite. Happy to have any of you there.) We brewed an imperial Porter, a strange Wheat Beer/Braggot/Blackberry wine, and a Best Bitter, as well as a Dopplebock (there will be many floor crashers. The low end of the abv is 4.5%, the high end pushing 10%). Here's the Labels:
http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/phot...172442_766.jpg

http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/phot...72471_8916.jpg

http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/phot...72462_6235.jpg

http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/phot...72447_2072.jpg

way cool selection TH. I have friend who brews his own at home - he's ready to do up some labels - I'll show 'im these for inspiration and as examples of how cool of an art it can be.
Thanks.

Those are really great.

I loved the pear labels. Do you make hard ciders by any chance? I love pear ciders :D

I really like the laughing lizard and the pear on stilts.

Do you do design for a living? If not, you should consider a career change.

Very cool. nice job

Here's everything I have printed out so far. The older ones are getting pretty sun faded, and I think I'm 6 or 8 behind at the moment (and out of room for more.)

man that is waaaay awesome!!!

Ok, this is impressive. I homebrew some but never with my own labels. Tophat, you have inspirecd me. Have to work on my graphics skillz.

These certainly make my effort look simple:

http://members.optusnet.com.au/djmwork/lagerpart2.jpg

I'm very lucky - I have a home brew shop about --- maybe 3 minutes walk from home.

There's nothing wrong with simple. That paw is practically iconic, and that is a good thing.

Do you use any particular type of paper for your label, Tophat? I mean, is there something made specifically for bottle labels? If not, what have you found works best?

Great labels...I especially liked the laughing lizard.

I've been using Avery matte white full sheet adhesive backed label paper. There are a couple of problems with it: It's susceptible to sun fading, it doesn't stick well to a bottle that is cold (and hench has some condesation on it, even if you wipe it off first) and it doesn't hold ink super well (particularly when wet). I would like to try to get some adhesive backed photo paper and some spray fixative at some point and relabel everything.

Here's the latest. In fairness, the composition is my work, but I got the border from a baroque moulding catalog and the Rapier from GIS. (I did the corners myself.)

Great stuff all around! (/ I'm late in getting to this topic)

I know that this is just private homebrew stuff, but I can't help but notice that you're treading on copyright infringement on more than one occasion. Don't get me wrong, it's well done, and I like it. But if you ever are looking to actually marketing your labels, 100% original art is a must.

Kudos onthe homebrewing. I've always wanted to do this, but other hobbies seem to get in the way!

EDIT: Aftre posting, I see that my point has already been addressed. Now... Watch out for over-use of filters. While they create cool effects, they are no substitute for the real thing.

these are just awesome..........man if only i could try some of your brew.

I am floored Tophat, not only by your labels but by the beer you are brewing. I have just recently started homebrewing myself and have loved the expereince and the results. I am inspired by your labels and the description of your beers. If I produce a label worthy of posting I would love to contribute to this thread, but I wouldn't want to step on your toes. Keep on brewing and keep on posting the labels!

After rereading all the posts, I couldn't find the answer to a question I have: what do you use for the neck lables? They add a lot to the finished look.

P.S. The description of Rapier Wit has my mouth watering.

telfonian,
If you come up with a label you want to post, go for it! As for neck labels, Sometimes I'll make one to go with a particular label - I'm definitely going to do that with Rapier Wit - sometimes I use one neck label for a series of beers (All four Up All Night Stouts have had different labels, but the same neck label), and sometimes I just use one of several default neck labels I made up. I'll attach a couple.

Flyman,
If you are ever going to be in the greater Washington DC area, PM me. Well get together and knock back some homebrew.

Mister Coaster,
Good point about the copyright. I do understand this. Were I doing graphic arts as a full time gig, then I would have the time to do, for instance, a couple of studies of Rapiers, pick the best, and flesh it out. Chances are I would just draw it freehand and scan it. However, as a hobby, I don't actually (usually) put a ton of time into these.

Your point is also taken about the filters (and even moreso about the styles - though you didn't mention it specifically), Used judiciously and sparingly, they can enhance. Used more, they can look very amatuerish to downright lazy. Used too much, and they can make everything seem forced.

Thanks for the feedback though! I will pay closer attention to both those aspects of design.

And now, some neck labels:

Hey Tophat, great labels. If we submit a few for you, would you entertain us by putting them onto a batch or two of your brew? Or say, if it came up as the topic of a weekly activity? :D

If you look at the two clsoeup pics of all the bottles like a magic eye (steeoscope) pciture and let the few bottles that are in both pics overlap, you get a 3d look at the White Walrus and the two paris of bottles behind it.

I'm all in favor of other folks giving me ideas for labels, or even full fledged labels. The deal is this, though: No matter how nifty the label art is, no mater how awesome the graphics, it has to make me want to brew the beer. I've gotten two from Fark over the last four or so years, one was "Mos Eisley Space Porter", which I brewed, and the other was "It's a Trappist, Ackbar Abbey Ale" which I haven't brewed yet (but I will one day).

If you decide you want to do a label for one of my beers, the words "Gamma Hootch" or "Gamma Hootch Brewing Company" pretty much have to be on the label. "Fairfax, Virginia" and "In Cerevisium Vires" are optional. Text must be legible enough to read at 500x500 px on a 1280x960 screen (I have good eyes though. More concerned about weird fonts than small ones.)

If I do run across a beer that I have to brew but am at a loss for a label, I will throw it out here and see what y'all can come up with.

And with that, here are the ones that I have bottled in the last week:

And here are a couple that I did up last week that I want to brew someday.

I should mention that Will & I have been naming our light lagers with 3 words beginning with "L" - Loves Lager Lost, Laughing Lizard Lager, that sort of thing _ I was going for a different take on the theme here. The House in the Home on LaGrange is at the L3 point. I did try to brew this unsuccessfully, but I'll try again. Meanwhile, I need to figure out what I have brewed before I know if I know what it's called.

love checking back in here.........great stuff Top....

i can almost taste them.

Wow tophat, those are amazing!

Howdy folks. Need your collective opinion on a couple of labels. First is for a Belgian Strong Ale. Many of this style of beer are named after devils (Duvel, Lucifer), and a the B&Ouml;C tune, <i>Divine Wind</i> got me thinking along these lines. One of these has the lyrics for the first two verses at the sides of the label, and one is just blank. Is it worth the clutter to have the lyrics, or does it do better without?

(Image link busted. Label finalized and posted further on)

The other question I have is about a couple of labels I did for a canteloupe mead. I put nine melons in 5 gallons, so I ended up calling it Nine Melon Mead.

My original thought was to have three naked women with three boobies each, but my photoshopping chops weren't up to it, and I prefer to keep my labels PG13 or safer. I couldn't figure out how to draw a really convincing whole canteloupe. So here are two variations on sliced canteloupe. One is more finished than the other.

http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/phot...42522_1292.jpg

http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/phot...42523_1597.jpg

Thanks in advance to any who express a preference, particularly if they tell me why.

hey Top.......nice work once again bro...........

for your Devine Wind........i think you should do without the lyrics......just too much there with them.....and that is a great label i might add.

the melon mead.....i'm partial to the first one i think.....diggin' the bees in each corner,and the tophat is a nice touch too.

but that's just sorta how i see it......get some more feedback from other members before you print 'em off.


keep up the good work man........

IMHO Top, I think that the first one is even a bit too cluttered. I might prefer to to see it without the red illustrations in the center. Maybe it's just my personal asthetics, but I like simple. My mind is taking too much in without knowing what the product is.

I must say that the outlined font is perfect, especially with the symbol in the middle. Absolutely loving the BOC references as well, long been favorites of mine.

Here's a suggestion, a larger version of the first label without the red center drawings as the main label, and then a smaller version of the second label on the other side of the bottle. Not sure if that's possible, but it is a way to keep all of your sweet artwork on the bottle.

Good call on excluding the boobies Top. Can't be alienating any potential clients.

Number Two works for me here, bro. As a photographer, I'm a nut for depth of field, and I just love how you portrayed it here. I think finding three dimentions on a flat surface to be a wonderful artform in itself. The colors are perfect, and you even portray my old fiestaware dishes... :D

Good job man, now I'm getting thirsty!

Thanks so much. That is a wizard suggestion. I'm going to wait for a few more comments, but I think this one might get a front/back/neck suite before too long.

Based on Paddyjoe's very cogent commentary on the Divine Wind label, I have put together a full set of labels for the bottle. Please feel free to continue to give input-it remains a work in progress.

In order, then, these are the Neck, Front, and Back labels.

http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/phot...42542_9414.jpg
http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/phot...42540_8889.jpg
http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/phot...42541_9161.jpg

i was just gonna say that i really liked the red dragon dude on the original......then i get here and see these awsome fucking renditions.....

wicked job Top......

that joe knows what he's talkin' about Top.....and with your art style......you pulled out some sweet assed stuff......these are deadly.

*must find way to try Tophat's homebrew*

Top, they look outstanding. Really nice job darkening the red image on the new version. The extra contrast sets it apart.

If fly finds a way to make it to Rochester, we'll make the 8 hour drive to your place.

This is just some very excellent applied art Tophat! They are marvelous and eminently collectible!

Hey Tophat!

What a great hobby you have! :p

About the Divine Wind: I like the warm blue color and the font really suits the theme on this label. However I'm not too sure about the orange colored font on the back. It looks like some of the letter might blend in with one another making it hard to read.

Btw! What are the chances of you brewing a Sissy Beer (what we Danes call a light beer)? :p

I've brewed what I would call a sissy beer - Berliner Weisse at 2.5%abv and The Purple Peril, which is not really a beer or a wine or a mead, but all three equally (one way to describe it is as a Honey Blackberry Raspberry Weizenbier.) As for an American Light Lager? Never happen. Might brew a Quarterbock at some point (A quarter batch of Doppelbock watered down.) That'd be a light beer.

I've also brewed a Brown Mild, which is a really nice low alcohol light bodied brown ale. That's what I think of as a light beer.

You misunderstood me Tophat. My suggestion was not only to brew a light beer but to actually name it Sissy Beer! :p

Much as it pains me to refuse such a talented and lovely lady, there is not a Televangelist's chance in Hell I'd brew a real light beer or name one Sissy beer.

anything new in the works Top?


we need update buddy........

I've got a new neck label for the American Ales. I'll post it up here tonight or tomorrow. Got a new Belgian Strong Ale label and a new Weisse Squad label in the works. Now, my buuddy and I are doing a photoshoot of his 18 month old stirring the pot this weekend for the Erin Go Brew label (she's named Erin) but that won't fly here, I'm afraid. So stay tuned. More to come anon (anon anon, anonanonanonanon).

Oh, I should note that I have brewed my first batch of Vinager. The 9 Melon Mead turned out undrinkable (though it is going to be a stellar marinade - sea scallops in honey melon vinager and scallions, seared, over an endive and grapefruit salad with herbed goat cheese. Very California.) I will do it again after I have bottled six gallons of it for gifts to teetotalers, this time with some tweaking so that it doesn't get infected.

In any case, as this is Tilted Artwork, some artwork. The first is the neck label for the Pride of Calaveras and Volta's Galvanic Ale. The next is the fourth incarnation of Weisse Squad, our Bavarian Wheat beer. The Last is for a potential Belgian Strong Ale, much like Divine Wind.

love the first one, very catchy, nice work
Ive heard making your own brew is very time consuming and hard, but very rewarding if done right

really like the 3rd one there Top.......

Thanks guys!

Hampshire, you heard wrong. Brewing your own can be very easy, and not particularly time consuming - say 6 hours in the course of 3 weeks (Of course, there is the actual waiting while the yeast does its work...). It can be as hard or as easy as you want it to be, but, so long as you pay attention to cleanliness and sanitation, it is hard to make a bad beer. In 7 years of brewing, I've only made one undrinkable and three disappointing beers, and one batch of Vinager (and that because I decided to dispense with some sanitation procedures. Not doing that again in a hurry). So less than a 5 percent failure rate.

Brewed the Weisse Squad Vier and the Purple Peril IV: the Fruit of the Devil last weekend. I've got the Weisse Squad label in the last post. Here's the Purple Peril one. (No, I am not a Satanist, nor am I particularly fixated on Devils. It just turned out that I had a bunch of devil related ideas at once.) Oh, and I have attached the file I used as my model too. (edit - and now it's gone...)

http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/phot...42559_4026.jpg

i'm crushing your head.......fuckin' gotta like the kids in the hall.


i like the devil Top........looks cool

Really Liking the newest ones, Tophat!

They're little gems, each and every one.
Great stuff!

I can't see em Top.....unless of course yer namin it red x beer!

maybe if you layed off of the sauce,you wouldn't always see red X's..... :D