08-16-2008, 08:03 AM | #1 (permalink) | |
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Clothing Manufacturers Pulling a Fast One?
While cleaning out things to have a yard sale, I came across a pair of pants and a pair of shorts left over from my "fat" days. The pants were a size 14, the shorts, 12.
I decided to keep these as I have gained about 20 lbs and, while the 8's and 10's fit, they are rather snug and I thought it'd be nice not to have to suck in the gut while putting something on. I was wrong. The 12's wouldn't button and the 14's wouldn't zip up. Ok, I can wear size 8 from last year before the gain and not the 14's from when I was even heavier??? What gives? So, Google to the rescue. 0 is the new 8 Quote:
Is this really being fair to women? No. It's a mind game. Women who tip the scales at the larger end of their weight chart can brag about being a size 6. Like the women mentioned in the article, I have bought clothes that I thought were my size, only to go home and find them too large for me. Not just ill fitting, but HUGE. When did a size 8 become huge? At 18, I was 103 lbs and a size 5. Now, over 50 lbs later, I have only gone to a size 8? When I lost 45 lbs, it became clear that every 10 lbs equaled one size down; now that I've gained 20 back, I went up one. The weight loss was in 2000, so just in eight years, the sizes of women's clothes has changed again drastically. It's probably likely that mom's size 10 dress would qualify as a 0. Good grief.... |
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08-16-2008, 10:58 AM | #2 (permalink) |
Psycho
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I have to admit that this is an issue that seriously irritates me. It can be about impossible at times to find clothing that fits properly. I am fairly petite, but I would never think of myself as a scrawny little waif. I wish woman's clothing sizes were more standardized like men's are. Certainly, most females would not care to have the waist/length markings visible to the world but it sure would make things far easier to shop. I have clothing in my dresser/closet that is in range of everything from a size 0 to a size 6, extra-small to extend to even a size large.
I have to try on practically everything that I purchase. It is a real challenge for myself as I am not very tall at 5'1" or so. It would be very nice to be able to just grab a pair of pants off a rack and head to the purchase counter. |
08-18-2008, 02:14 PM | #3 (permalink) |
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Heres my opinion:
Just like how a restaurant has to post the nutritional information on their items, apparel manufacterers and sellers should post a size chart when you walk in. Heres how our sizes work: If your bust/waist/hips/whatever/etc. measure is a \"____\" then your size is: ___. Or a chart. Just spell it out. Is someone really not going to buy something because of the number or letter on the label? If you need it, you need it. Dont waste my time with your bullshit sizing. |
08-18-2008, 02:57 PM | #4 (permalink) |
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Location: Oregon
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Yeah, I came across a pair of size 11 (juniors sizing) Roxy board shorts from my high school days. I am the same size now that I was then, and they're snug; supposedly I'm a size 8 now. Of course, Roxy sizes have always run small. But they've been doing this for years--this is why it's always a good idea to try clothing on.
And when people say they go by how their jeans fit to gauge their weight gain/loss, that's not always the best measure, unless you're using the same pair of jeans year in and year out, or they're hanging on to a pair of Levis with clear measurements on them!
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08-18-2008, 06:47 PM | #6 (permalink) |
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I have ALWAYS had an issue with the length of things. Being 5'10 until recently it was almost impossible to find anything that was long enough. When capris came back I was happy because it doesn't matter what length they are.
As far as clothing size I am a different size in every brand I wear. This range is quite large so I have to try everything on before I buy it. |
08-18-2008, 07:52 PM | #7 (permalink) |
peekaboo
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I've noticed the lengths have gotten longer too. I have a 34" inseam and used to have to buy men's jeans, then when they came out with women's long, I got those. Now longs are too long many times and I know my legs didn't shrink!
My daughter is 5'3", size 5 currently and all her jeans are way too long-but being 16, she thinks that's cool. Side note: I used to work for a men's clothing manufacturer. When we got an order that we didn't have enough items per size to fill, we tore out the tags from sizes one up and one down, resewed tags with the size needed into the items and shipped them. So, for instance, if Macy's ordered 12 size 38 jackets and we only had 8, we'd switch two size 36's and two size 40's. That brings me to this: Why aren't women's sizes based on chest and waist like men's? Unless we all buy from the LL Bean or Eddie Baurer catalogs, which have size charts, we're at the mercy of the makers of the clothes. One might consider a 12 a large, another calls it an X-large. And is a 12 for a 36" chest or a 34" one? Also, because of my long arms, I generally have to stay away from long sleeved blouses or buy one slightly larger than I should if I want sleeves down to my wrists. For some reason, I don't have this problem with sweaters. -----Added 19/8/2008 at 12 : 03 : 41----- Just found this. It was written two years ago at least, but it covers what we're talking about pretty well. Finding clothes that fit Last edited by ngdawg; 08-18-2008 at 08:03 PM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost |
08-21-2008, 11:49 AM | #9 (permalink) |
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Clothing sizes are, at best, unpredictable. I remember seeing that article in the Globe a couple of years ago. I thought then that it was a little overstated, like a lot of the Globe feature stories. I shop for business wear mostly at a couple of different Ann Taylor stores here in Boston. A little pricey, but high quality. I love being able to buy separates to accommodate my busty but otherwise thin (“unbalanced” as my favorite salesperson puts it) body. And they always have a good selection of quality petite size clothing that doesn’t go for the “cute” look. There seem to be more young Asian women around in the last few years, and I think that has helped all of us petites (which in fashion-speak means short, not necessarily small.) I haven’t noticed the sizes changing any in the three or four years that I’ve been shopping there, but I sure have noticed that sizing varies from one brand or label to another. This is true even between Levies and Wrangler jeans.
I’ve always preferred the basic Levis or Wrangler look in jeans to the designer variety. I think casual should be, well, casual. Like as in informal. Unpretentious. My body (except for the boobs) is really more boyish than girly. I’m 5’ 2” with lean legs and not much of a butt. I’ve bought boys jeans (usually size 12 or 14) ever since… well, as long as I can remember. They are just about a perfect fit, form fitting but not overly tight, though usually needing to be hemmed. Sometimes I can go to a thrift store and come out three or four pair for a twenty dollar bill. No hundred dollar jeans or fifty dollar tee shirts for this girl. Helps me afford the Ann Taylor suits. Besides being short, I am also long waisted. My legs are so short, they only barely reach the floor. That's a joke. So sometimes even petites need to be hemmed. I’m OK with that. I’ve gotten pretty good at minor alterations, and hemming a pair of pants usually only takes a few minutes, even with my clunky old hand-me-down sewing machine. When I go home to Kansas in October I’ll check the closet in my old bedroom, and see how some size 3 skirts from the early nineties compare to size 3 now. Maybe even try on my old cheerleader’s outfit. Lindy |
08-22-2008, 06:59 PM | #10 (permalink) |
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I've noticed the change in the inseam length, too. It was always hard to find nice slacks with a long enough inseam in smaller sizes to accommodate my youthful skinniness . Now, the inseam length on most slacks is actually too long!
I recently bought a few pair of Carlisle slacks and was shocked at the length, and out of a few dollars after paying the seamstress to hem them for me. Big change from having to let the hems out. Where were all these pants when I was younger?
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08-24-2008, 04:01 AM | #11 (permalink) |
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I swear the older I get, the harder it is to find clothing that fits my scrawny ass. Though, in theory, asses and hips, etc, are supposed to get bigger. Perhaps I'll start shopping in the kids' section again.
Way cheaper! Plus the length of the pants won't be made for the equivalent of a 6'6" 105lb woman
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08-27-2008, 12:47 AM | #12 (permalink) |
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I don't get the sizes problem so much here in Portugal, usually the same size I usually wear fits me in different brands. The sizes here are a lot friendlier, just to give you an idea, I wear a size 36, and I'm small. 34 is considered very small. Below that and you're probably a teen. So they do go down...I've never heard of a size 0 here. In the UK I'm a size 8 or 10. Thank god I don't have to deal with the trauma of a size o!
I am only 5'4" and most times when I buy trousers I always have to have the hems done, they are always way too long...they don't do different lengths here. Sucks.
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09-21-2008, 12:07 PM | #13 (permalink) | |
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Location: georgia
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i'm 5'3 and I have always had to wear short pants, and now even those drag the ground a bit good to know I don't have premature osteoperosis On the otherhand I guess I'm one of the people to be benifited by the size shift, concidering I have pretty close to marilyn monroe's figure (36-24-37) but have always Really seemed fat when telling my pants size but then i digress with my ego, its jsut hard to feel fit in 12+pants (sorry one of these days i'll learn to spellcheck prior to posting) Last edited by Falconclaw240; 09-21-2008 at 12:13 PM.. |
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09-21-2008, 06:01 PM | #14 (permalink) | |
Post-modernism meets Individualism AKA the Clash
Location: oregon
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also, did you know that the sweet valley high series have updated their books so that the twins are not the perfect size 6, but the perfect size 4?? Is this just absolutely wrong to change the standards or is it just "updating" what a size 6 currently is today?
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