You read all twelve pages? Thats pretty pathetic...

One doesn't have to read every page to see how many pages there are total.

Well then, yeah, it was the best I could come up with. And after 12 pages the best you could do was criticize it. Sort of puts us in the same boat, huh?

Pretty much.

I skimmed through most of the pages myself. Great thread. I'm printing some of this out.
It will make handy notes for my mother/daughter talks...the ones when I explain the types of men to avoid and the things they will do to play games with her. :D

Yeah... getting in touch with my haircare products is unlikely to advance the status of the cobwebs on my wang.

I thought people were just born with game. I didn't know you could learn it.

Anything can be learned. I'm not sure if Plan9 was the best mentor for this, since he's an ass, but here's something to get you started:

http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/sextips/

And when you're ready for something a bit more advanced, try the link below:

http://www.fastseduction.com/guide/

agreed

I read through the http://www.fastseduction.com/guide/ and found it sleazy. In fact, most of this is sleazy. Everything these "Getting Girls Into Bed/Conversation/Phone numbers" is pantomime to a sad form of mental rape and outright trickery on the part of the poor slob that can't really hold a decent conversation or be interesting on his own.

Reminds me of the Will Ferrell charcter in Wedding Crashers that picks up women at funerals.

You want advice on how to pick up women to sleep with? Then you don't deserve a woman to pick up, you deserve a disease that you will get from any woman that falls for any of this pseudobabble bullshit, because she has fallen for it many, many, many times in the past. Sound harsh? Sorry, but it's true.

I feel the same way about the books, articles and how-tos about how to marry a rich husband. Maybe the people reading these books will meet each other and leave the rest of us alone to stumble around words and be polite and devlope true feelings for one another while they are off playing mind games and trying to trick each other into the sack or into the other's bank account.

/rant off

True, most of this stuff is sleazy, and Plan9 is a complete ass, but there are some useful nuggets in there. For one, Plan9 says that you should practice your game on everyone. Although what ´game´ is, is up for debate, it´s generally good advice that if you want to be more socialable, than you should talk to everyone you meet.

And personally, I have my shy moments, and am at a complete loss as to what to say. So one thing that I pulled from the Seduction Guide was the question, So what´s your story? I´ve made my own version of that, by asking something that´s revelent to what they do for a living. So if she´s working at a Starbucks, I´ll say in a sarcastic tone, So what´s your story? Are you going to open your own coffee shop someday?

Personally, I enjoyed the Sex Tips for Geeks much more:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/sextips/

Omigosh that's funny. You asked me the exact same thing the first time I met you in chat.

A sarcastic tone here might make me think you were belittling me, my choice of job, or how well I do my job. Asking this while smiling, after complimenting how efficient they are or how well they made your mocha, is more likely to get you a smile back.

Mystery on Conan
 

Here's a better mentor, a guy that goes by the stage, Mystery, and here's a clip from his apperance in the Conan O'Brian Show. I read his e-book, some good stuff in there. Such as how to approach a group of gals at a party and such.

Enjoy

Honestly, I would say that I am pretty average on this whole woman thing. I get pussy, but not a ton. Don't get me wrong, I would love to get alot more but something is missing with me that I can't put my finger on. For example, I have a friend that is missing a few pistons but gets tons of pussy. I wonder if it is because he is decent looking or he just knows how to play the game. I met a girl recently and she seems interested. My problem is that I tend to get to into it or shall i say "desperate" or giving off that Aura. I mean Im fairly good looking and very intelligent but there is just something missing with me and women. I think its the confidence. The whole wussie deal. I tend to be a very kind person with women. Its gotten me a few real hotties but Im tired of just having a few.

Hah! This takes me back. I looked up to Plan9 when that post first came out.

yeah, this thread made me vomit a little in the back of my throat.

'tis all bullshit!

be yourself and dont be shy! you will have no problems with the booty, trust me.

(the nickname "master of disaster" sounds bad...but its so not.)

I might have trusted you before you said that.

haha.

alrighty then.

Read a chunk of this thread, Plan9 was discussing a lot of what has become fundamental PUA material. So in some ways he was ahead of the curve.

Many people on this thread have stated the best strategy is to just be yourself and not play games. Unfortunately doing this yields the result of you being put in the "let's just be friends" category. However if you introduce playful teasing, and a bit of jealously, the results are much different.

I know because I have tried both ways.

plan 9 is really disecting this game and is " ON POINT" he reminds me of tom leykis on how to get girls but gald there is a post for this type of stuff some very interesting stuff

So true.

It's approaching 8 years since my first and only post in this thread, and I want to reiterate my sentiment: this is the best thread TFP has ever had. Even better than "Help! My boyfriend wants to poo on me."